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2012-12-18 05:21:04 PM
The more guns in schools, the less likely someone will be injured or killed by one.
 
2012-12-18 05:21:54 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The more guns in schools, the less likely someone will be injured or killed by one.


Well, that's just common sense.
 
2012-12-18 05:22:13 PM
What advice was that exactly subby?

The only thing they've said since Friday was:
"The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common de
cency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."
 
2012-12-18 05:22:51 PM
To be fair he could contact the NRA their facebook and twitter feeds are down.
 
2012-12-18 05:23:19 PM
Man, the government sure is pulling out all stops when it comes to generating public sympathy for their latest gun-ban.
 
2012-12-18 05:23:38 PM

Evil Mackerel: To be fair he couldn't contact the NRA their facebook and twitter feeds are down.


FTFM
 
2012-12-18 05:23:49 PM
Didn't he see the "Gun Free Zone" signage?


Just more and more media pushed anti-gun "news"...

The liberal media will really try to push this agenda now won't they
 
2012-12-18 05:24:09 PM

JesseL: The only thing they've said since Friday was:
"The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common de
cency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."


Have they no decency?
 
2012-12-18 05:25:34 PM
Yes, because that's what we all should do: follow up a moment of great tragedy with moments of great stupidity, which then lead to more moments of great tragedy.

// Looks like this kid's Wheel of Morality stopped a long time ago.
 
2012-12-18 05:26:36 PM
There are kids in Kearns that don't bring guns to school?

Wait, what?

/Used to live by 6200 South and 5600 West
 
2012-12-18 05:27:07 PM
With a helpful picture of what a "gun" might look like.
 
2012-12-18 05:27:23 PM
I love the hyper-sensitivity to the tragedy.

BAN ALL GUNS, HERP A DERP

We should lock up all people with Asperger Syndrome because they could be violent.

No thought, just react.
 
2012-12-18 05:27:33 PM
An armed elementary schoo

JesseL: What advice was that exactly subby?


An armed elementary school is a polite elementary school?
 
2012-12-18 05:28:27 PM
I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.
 
2012-12-18 05:28:39 PM

vegasj: Didn't he see the "Gun Free Zone" signage?


Just more and more media pushed anti-gun "news"...

The liberal media will really try to push this agenda now won't they


Absolutely! They'll be comin' fer your guns aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany day now....

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany day now.......

/Maybe in the 3rd term?
 
2012-12-18 05:29:26 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: We should lock up all people with Asperger Syndrome because they could be violent.


Or at least those on antipsychotic drugs

 
2012-12-18 05:30:19 PM

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


Not a bad idea on some level, but do you really think you can guarantee that an 11 year old cannot figure out where your weapons are and how to get to them? I'd be hard-pressed to commit myself to that guarantee. Of course, I don't own any guns, so it's not actually an issue.
 
2012-12-18 05:31:08 PM

dalovindj: JesseL: The only thing they've said since Friday was:
"The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common de
cency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."

Have they no decency?


No, but their PR guy is Caminiti deCency.

/He's Italian.
 
2012-12-18 05:31:18 PM
vegasj


Random Anonymous Blackmail: We should lock up all people with Asperger Syndrome because they could be violent.

Or at least those on antipsychotic drugs


Wasn't his mom a doomsday prepper!!!

CALL THE POLICE.... WHAGARBBBBLL
 
2012-12-18 05:32:02 PM
Guns don't kill people, Eric Holder kills people.
 
2012-12-18 05:33:37 PM

Evil Mackerel: To be fair he could contact the NRA their facebook and twitter feeds are down.


What's even more funny is they pulled their sites, because they figured their forum sections would be FILLED with pro & anti gun comments.
Then, another site posted that the NRA pulled their sites to prevent the comments sections from being filled with hate filled comments from both sides. The FARK was the comments on the site reporting that the NRA pulled their site....WAS FILLED WITH HATE FILLED COMMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES.
Something the NRA was trying to avoid :)
 
2012-12-18 05:33:46 PM

Lochsteppe: deCency


Her?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-18 05:33:55 PM

mexicymru: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Not a bad idea on some level, but do you really think you can guarantee that an 11 year old cannot figure out where your weapons are and how to get to them?



As a parent of an 11 year old, and a gun owner, I can state categorically that yes, I can guarantee he doesn't have access to them. That is my responsibility. If an 11 year old can "figure out where they are and get access to them" then you're doing it wrong. If I ever doubted my ability to assert positive control over my guns, I would get rid of them.

I'd be hard-pressed to commit myself to that guarantee. Of course, I don't own any guns, so it's not actually an issue.

That's fine, and a perfectly valid reason to not own guns.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:05 PM

mexicymru: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Not a bad idea on some level, but do you really think you can guarantee that an 11 year old cannot figure out where your weapons are and how to get to them? I'd be hard-pressed to commit myself to that guarantee. Of course, I don't own any guns, so it's not actually an issue.


This may sound extreme, but if you can't guarantee that, you shouldn't get to own guns in America.

/But 11-year-olds are so clever!
//If you're not smarter than a 6th grader, you won't be much help in an armed overthrow of tyranny anyway.*
///And you might be a redneck.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:37 PM

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


Like the idea, but the one who did in this case took 4 bullets to the dome while she slept in her doomsday-delusional state.

For other irresponsible gun owners who have the benefit of still being above ground, absolutely I'm okay with this.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:50 PM
In Kearns?

I'd be surprised if the kids weren't armed.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:51 PM

Rent Party: As a parent of an 11 year old, and a gun owner, I can state categorically that yes, I can guarantee he doesn't have access to them. That is my responsibility. If an 11 year old can "figure out where they are and get access to them" then you're doing it wrong. If I ever doubted my ability to assert positive control over my guns, I would get rid of them.


Cool. I have no problem with you owning guns, then - and as my unpopularity elsewhere will attest, I'm not fond of firearms in the general population.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:52 PM

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1
 
2012-12-18 05:36:22 PM
Secure your guns people. If your kid (or someone breaking into your home) has free access to your firearms and ammunition, you're doing it wrong.
 
2012-12-18 05:37:17 PM
 
2012-12-18 05:38:05 PM

Lochsteppe: This may sound extreme, but if you can't guarantee that, you shouldn't get to own guns in America.


I don't think that's extreme at all.
 
2012-12-18 05:38:52 PM
We really need a Utard tag. There are nearly just as many stories about Utahns as there are Floridians anymore.
 
2012-12-18 05:39:16 PM
"The NRA is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters - and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown. Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again."


Heh. I think we can all guess what their "meaningful contributions" will be. (Hint: MOAR GUNS!)



mexicymru: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Not a bad idea on some level, but do you really think you can guarantee that an 11 year old cannot figure out where your weapons are and how to get to them? I'd be hard-pressed to commit myself to that guarantee. Of course, I don't own any guns, so it's not actually an issue.


That's where you get into things like gun locks, and the resposibility of teaching your farking kids that guns aren't toys.
 
2012-12-18 05:39:29 PM

JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1


I bet we lose fewer people to home invasions than we do to people doing something stupid with their own gun or a family member's gun. It's also one of them thar false choice fallacy doohickeys. But you knew that.
 
2012-12-18 05:40:17 PM
When I wake up in the morning
And the news gives out a warning
And I don't think I'll ever make it through safe
By the time I grab my glock
And I give the mirror the talk
I'm at the school just in time to see the bullets fly
It's alright cause I'm saved by the shell

If the madman pulls his piece
I know I'm in for keeps
but my mom packed all my hollows last night
aiming low cause he's bad
I was trained by my dad
If I can shoot em while he's loading it will be alright
It's alright cause I'm saved by the shell
 
2012-12-18 05:41:04 PM

Sticky Hands: In Kearns?

I'd be surprised if the kids weren't armed.


meh I mixed up Kearns with Glendale.
Still.. Kearns ain't all the great either.
 
2012-12-18 05:41:28 PM

Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.


DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING
 
2012-12-18 05:41:42 PM

powtard: We really need a Utard tag. There are nearly just as many stories about Utahns as there are Floridians anymore.


English, do you speak it?
 
2012-12-18 05:42:43 PM

JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1


Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link
 
2012-12-18 05:43:55 PM

powtard: We really need a Utard tag. There are nearly just as many stories about Utahns as there are Floridians anymore.


This!

We can make our 12-year-old nieces our Spiritual Wives better than any Floridian.

Those new Auto Body Shop Subsidy Darwin Award Flex Lanes on 5400 South in Kearns will also earn us a Fark tag. That's probably why the kid brought the gun to school. To save all the kids on his school bus in case the driver tried to drive on 5400 South.
 
2012-12-18 05:44:43 PM

Rent Party: JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1

Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link


eloquentscience.com
 
2012-12-18 05:44:44 PM

Rent Party: JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1

Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link


Not all those firearms homicides were murder. The statistics linked include people killed in justifiable self-defense.
 
2012-12-18 05:45:37 PM

JohnAnnArbor: powtard: We really need a Utard tag. There are nearly just as many stories about Utahns as there are Floridians anymore.

English, do you speak it?


Oh my heck! No, we don't speak English. We're in Utah.
 
2012-12-18 05:46:37 PM

Evil Mackerel: To be fair he could contact the NRA their facebook and twitter feeds are down.


In the before times, now lost to history, we had such mystical and wonderful technology.

dl.dropbox.com 

/Can you believe there was only one ringtone?
 
2012-12-18 05:46:56 PM

Sticky Hands: Sticky Hands: In Kearns?

I'd be surprised if the kids weren't armed.

meh I mixed up Kearns with Glendale.
Still.. Kearns ain't all the great either.


Kearns makes Glendale look like Deer Valley.
 
2012-12-18 05:49:16 PM
Anyone is allowed a gun. I'm OK with this.

Except the asshats that use them to issue bogus traffic tickets.
 
2012-12-18 05:49:49 PM
FTA: Horsley says school police are investing reports that the boy pointed the gun at another child's head.

But we're going to report that he brought it for self-defense.
 
2012-12-18 05:51:45 PM
Firearm homicide is the leading cause of death for African Americans ages 1-44.

Source:

Nat'l Ctr. for Injury Prevention & Control, U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention, Web-Based Injury Statistics Query & Reporting System (WISQARS) Leading Causes of Death Reports, 1999-2009, for National, Regional, and States (RESTRICTED), at http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/dataRestriction_lcd.html (last visited Mar. 8, 2012) (hereinafter WISQARS Leading Causes of Death Reports, 1999-2009;
 
2012-12-18 05:52:40 PM

JesseL: Rent Party: JesseL: Rent Party: I'm going to go back to the Rent Party Policy that places 100% of the responsibility for guns on their legal owners. Whichever dipshiat left this gun in an unsecured state, allowing a sixth grader access to it, should be going to prison for two years.

Start directing mandatory minimum sentencing at those "responsible" gun owners that are really "irresponsible assholes" and you'll find far fewer weapons in the hands of those that shouldn't have them.

Just be aware that that policy will have its own cost in lives.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/story/2012-06-23/phoenix- te en-shoots-intruder/55782484/1

Every policy has it's cost in lives.

This is the cost of the current policy.

Link

Not all those firearms homicides were murder. The statistics linked include people killed in justifiable self-defense.


Yes, They were probably sporting guns that they acquired when some "responsible gun owner" left his shiat laying around for a scumbag to steal. Most crime guns were illicitly obtained. Put another way, most crime guns were improperly stored by their legal owner.

Link

That is a study from Los Angeles, but I've no reason to doubt the conclusions can't be generalized to criminal classes everywhere.
 
2012-12-18 05:55:00 PM

tallguywithglasseson: The more guns in schools, the less likely someone will be injured or killed by one.


Exactly! The more people that have guns the less likely anyone will actually use one. Now, what about when kids are walking to school? There are no adults with guns around, how do we protect them? What about when they're playing outside with their friends? Again, no armed adults. They could be murdered or abducted, this kind of thing happens you know.
 
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