snowjack: Gdalescrboz: Well, northerns tend to rewrite history on this subject. The Vice President of the Confederacy said it was mainly about slavery, in 1861, in a public speech. Then he doubled down on it in a written "What I really said" article right afterward, which read, in part: "Slavery was without doubt the occasion of secession" ... "The relation of the black to the white race, or the proper status of the coloured population amongst us, was a question now of vastly more importance than when the old Constitution was formed. The order of subordination was nature's great law; philosophy taught that order as the noraml condition of the African amongst European races. Upon this recognized principle of a proper subordination, let it be called slavery or what not, our State institutions were formed and rested. The new Confederation was entered into with this distinct understanding. This principle of the subordination of the inferior to the superior was the "corner-stone" on which it was formed. I used this metaphor merely to illustrate the firm convictions of the framers of the new Constitution that this relation of the black to the white race, which existed in 1787, was not wrong in itself, either morally or politically; that it was in conformity to nature and best for both races. I alluded not to the principles of the new Government on this subject, but to public sentiment in regard to these principles. The status of the African race in the new Constitution was left just where it was in the old; I affirmed and meant to affirm nothing else in this Savannah speech." How are the northerns rewriting history, again?Southerns: * cicadas *
Gdalescrboz: Detritus.P.S. If you're going to defend banning images of racism, we can start with Lincoln.Better idea, lets put him on Mt. Rushmore!
WordsnCollision: Insatiable Jesus: Whine about your heritage all you like, you hateful hillbillies. Your heritage is one of using black people as farm equipment because you were too lazy to do your own work. Or is this about your military heritage? You mean like the time you geniuses decided to pick a fight with an industrialized neighbor while you only had 16 miles of railroad track of your own? That's almost as brilliant as showing up to war without shoes.Your precious Southern Heritage is little more than a history of vicious hatefulness and ignorance. Piss on it.Not to white-knight the "hateful and ignorant" Davis administration but it happened to include one Judah P. Benjamin, who was successively the Confederate Cabinet's attorney general, secretary of war, and secretary of state. Not bad for a Jew from Louisiana.[www.rebelstatescurrency.com image 750x330]
The_Original_Roxtar: twistofsin: Really, so if it has nothing to do with race now come I have never ever in my life seen a southern black man displaying a confederate flag?because you're blind/you're not looking hard enough/it clashes with your preconceived notions, so you ignore it.
atomic-age: We had General Forrest Middle School. Emma Sansom High School's band uniforms had the Confederate flag on them; they were the Rebels. Their mascot was a Confederate soldier, IIRC.LinkEmma Sansom High School sits boarded-up and abandoned like the other two city schools (including mine). There's now a hugenormous high school that serves the whole city. Alas, no more "Rebels".
detritus: fisker: muck4doo: fisker: muck4doo: fisker: muck4doo: fisker: Texas would be the perfect place for all republicans to go and form their own country. They can take all their gay, abortion, God and religious issues and complain about them THERE. They could build a giant prison system and fill it with black people who can build all the toys and products republicans crave for free, over THERE. While the real America, BEST America can move on without all of that delusional bullshiat. See, this is what i mean. Don't be stupid like this guy. I'm sorry, I really am. But I don't want to talk about abortion and gay people with you anymore. Go find some other place to do that.Facing facts are hard for you? The most segregated cities in this country are blue. Deal with it and your racist heritage.Okay. You are not capable of understanding what I am doing. So I will stop.We see what you are doing. It's just stupid.AH!You're from Texas.AH! You can stop with your ad hominem bullshiat. I live in Michigan and he's absolutely right.
Benjamin Orr: So I have words to describe your process. They would be "nonsensical" or sometimes "dumb."So you really don't know anything about the failures of Reconstruction do you?
Benjamin Orr: Upstate NY has an amazing concentration of Confederate flags too. "Southern Pride" indeed
Need_MindBleach: shintochick: I was shocked when I moved to northwest Washington State and saw some trucks with the rebel flag. I soon learned that one of the tiny neighboring towns was founded by people from North Carolina. They even do Civil War reenactments./too funny since WA State didn't participate in the Civil WarHell, I've seen trucks with confederate flags, and I live in Michigan.
amquelbettamin: But I can still wear this to prom, right?[www.earthakitsch.com image 267x390]
UNC_Samurai: special20: If she was really proud of her ancestry, she would do her research about her "Captain" and maybe ask to use his regimental flag... not the symbol of racism that is the stars and bars of today.[i.imgur.com image 300x173]Or use this flag:[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x167]"But now, when Northern treachery attempts our rights to marWe hoist on high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star."Really, what rights?"Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition."
WordsnCollision: Lionel Mandrake: How the Hell else can a guy express his patriotism without flying a flag of treason?Like this one?[sp.life123.com image 406x296]
red5ish: "Can I not be proud of my Southern heritage?" she asked, invoking her great-great-great-grandfather, who she said was a captain in the Civil War.The war is over. You lost. Let it go.
Englebert Slaptyback: Texas school board finally votes to ban Confederate flag on school property.Someone told them the flag was retarded and they immediately voted to execute it.
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