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(NPR)   You may want to sit down for this, but it looks like, in their frantic race to be first to report every grisly detail of a national tragedy, news agencies are often completely wrong in their facts. And it looks like they don't care much, either   (npr.org) divider line 131
    More: Stupid, Early Hours, law enforcement officials, Sandy Hook, Columbine High School  
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2012-12-18 12:33:06 PM  
It's because we as a consumer have just learned to accept it. We "understand" it's a breaking story so we dont hold them accountable for the bs that comes flying out of our tvs.
 
2012-12-18 12:48:55 PM  
Let's not let ourselves get distracted from attacking Obama for not immediately spouting off about Benghazi the second it happened, though.
 
2012-12-18 12:53:17 PM  
Infotainment at its finest indeed

We don't care about real news. We want to see a dog adopting a kitten who lost its mother. We want to see guys kicked in the balls. We want blood, gore, horror, and fright. That's all we want and the news networks give it to us
 
2012-12-18 01:12:08 PM  
That's funny because with the Tucson shooting it was NPR who got the facts wrong that day. And for a couple hours they led America and the rest of the media to believe Gabrielle Giffords was dead.
 
2012-12-18 01:42:59 PM  
It goes hand in hand with trying suspects in the media. Ask Nancy Grace how that Duke case worked out for her.
 
2012-12-18 01:43:26 PM  
Remember this

i194.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-18 01:44:01 PM  
Give us dirty laundry!
 
2012-12-18 01:44:06 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: We "understand" it's a breaking story so we dont hold them accountable


I'm ok with that, actually. Better than nothing.
 
2012-12-18 01:45:38 PM  
Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.
 
2012-12-18 01:46:42 PM  

duffblue: It goes hand in hand with trying suspects in the media. Ask Nancy Grace how that Duke case worked out for her.


That's what freedom of the press gets you.

Someone commented in TFA that the shooter's brother should sue the news agencies that vilified him first. There aren't any legal ramifications for spouting inaccurate (and sometimes harmful) "info," so why not make it a civil dealie, worth millions of dollars?

Probably would never win the case, though.
 
2012-12-18 01:47:18 PM  
I see what you did there, tea...
 
2012-12-18 01:48:35 PM  

make me some tea: Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.


And yet the conspiracy theorist still believe that the incorrect stories were actually suppressed information.
 
2012-12-18 01:52:08 PM  

Rincewind53: make me some tea: Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.

And yet the conspiracy theorist still believe that the incorrect stories were actually suppressed information.


Fox News would never lie to them or mislead them, so obviously it was all legit information that was later covered up.
 
2012-12-18 02:03:15 PM  

Rincewind53: make me some tea: Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.

And yet the conspiracy theorist still believe that the incorrect stories were actually suppressed information.


Yup. All of that nonsense perpetuated the 9/11 Truther crap.

I've decided awhile back that I can live without 24hr news channels. I'll watch the report on the 6:00 news after they've had a chance to clean things up and get their facts and interviewees organized. If it's an emergency that directly affects my safety, I expect to receive an SMS alert and/or hear air raid sirens (I got one when Hurricane Sandy was getting real around here).
 
2012-12-18 02:31:42 PM  

sweetmelissa31: Remember this

[i194.photobucket.com image 850x396]


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-18 02:34:59 PM  
He had his brother's id on him so that's mostly forgivable.

What drives me crazy is the endless, obvious, useless speculation from "profilers" and authors-"Did he play video games??? Did he watch violent movies???"

You mean like every other twenty year old male in the country? It'd be more newsworthy if he DIDN'T. May as well ask if he played with himself.

An hour later, same douchebag asking the same question.
 
2012-12-18 02:35:52 PM  
Well, take your news from different sources then - CBC, BBC, Al-Jazeera, etc. The truth can be sifted from the crapola.
 
2012-12-18 02:47:32 PM  
What *is* the obsession with being "first" to report something?  I've personally never looked back at any major news story and remembered who "broke" it.
 
Especially in today's day and age of twitter and all that... if I hear of breaking news I'm interested in, I'll just go to CNN or whatever to see what's up.
 
I'll then flip around to various channels/sites to whatch whoever seems to have the most sane coverage.
 
2012-12-18 02:49:07 PM  

xanadian: duffblue: It goes hand in hand with trying suspects in the media. Ask Nancy Grace how that Duke case worked out for her.

That's what freedom of the press gets you.

Someone commented in TFA that the shooter's brother should sue the news agencies that vilified him first. There aren't any legal ramifications for spouting inaccurate (and sometimes harmful) "info," so why not make it a civil dealie, worth millions of dollars?

Probably would never win the case, though.


Lyle difficulty lies in proving Malice. Printing information that is false is not enough.

I believe the courts ruined that the news are not required to print truth.
 
2012-12-18 02:56:44 PM  

gopher321: Well, take your news from different sources then - CBC, BBC, Al-Jazeera, etc. The truth can be sifted from the crapola.


Or PBS/NPR.

They tend to be more conservative in their reporting as well, like as in, they usually report only on what can be confirmed because they aren't under in a competition to grab ratings like the corporate media is.

Most of our corp. media are little more than gossip rags at this point.
 
2012-12-18 02:57:39 PM  

make me some tea: Rincewind53: make me some tea: Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.

And yet the conspiracy theorist still believe that the incorrect stories were actually suppressed information.

Yup. All of that nonsense perpetuated the 9/11 Truther crap.

I've decided awhile back that I can live without 24hr news channels. I'll watch the report on the 6:00 news after they've had a chance to clean things up and get their facts and interviewees organized. If it's an emergency that directly affects my safety, I expect to receive an SMS alert and/or hear air raid sirens (I got one when Hurricane Sandy was getting real around here).


Tea, I figured you for a 24/7 Fox News kind of guy...........

/ducks and runs
 
2012-12-18 02:59:25 PM  

downstairs: What *is* the obsession with being "first" to report something?  I've personally never looked back at any major news story and remembered who "broke" it.
 
Especially in today's day and age of twitter and all that... if I hear of breaking news I'm interested in, I'll just go to CNN or whatever to see what's up.
 
I'll then flip around to various channels/sites to whatch whoever seems to have the most sane coverage.


Because I suppose they figure that if you put on whichever channel has the appearance of providing information first, you'll tend to stay glued to that channel the rest of the day, hence more money from advertisers.
 
2012-12-18 03:00:00 PM  

basemetal: /ducks and runs


YOU BETTER RUN
 
2012-12-18 03:29:17 PM  
And compounded by the pro- and anti-gun derp.
 
2012-12-18 03:44:09 PM  
Hey, ya gotta use that pile of corpses as a soap box before they get cold.
 
2012-12-18 03:45:25 PM  
I miss the good old days of integrity in Journalism, where people got their news stories the old fashioned way. You didn't go to Twitter to find information and report it. You went to school, worked your way up, put your feet on the street and you reported any forged document that arrived to you via FedEx.
 
2012-12-18 03:45:57 PM  
On a funny side note, this story was politicized before the smallest corpse reached room temperature. Literally before the heat of life left the smallest body.
 
2012-12-18 03:46:30 PM  
i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-18 03:47:27 PM  
IANAL so I wonder what legal grounds Ryan Lanza has to sue any news agency that initially said he was the shooter for defamation. They might be more willing to slow down and get things right if they had to pay $100 million every time they were very wrong.
 
2012-12-18 03:48:40 PM  
This massacre has been a real windfall to the press. Good for them!
 
2012-12-18 03:49:49 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-18 03:50:09 PM  
And it's still better than the "facts" that I hear months later from actual people that I know. Meh.
 
2012-12-18 03:51:14 PM  

rotsky: The Stealth Hippopotamus: We "understand" it's a breaking story so we dont hold them accountable

I'm ok with that, actually. Better than nothing.


Um, incorrect information is NOT better than nothing.
 
2012-12-18 03:51:54 PM  
YOU MEAN THOSE CHILDREN AREN'T DEAD?
 
2012-12-18 03:52:17 PM  
They claimed.

His brother was the shooter
He was at his brothers in hoboken NJ the day before / of the attacks
His brothers GF and housemate were missing
that the Lanza father was dead
That the mother worked at the school
that the mother was among the dead in the school
that it was the mothers classroom
he only used pistols
the long gun was locked in the trunk
there was a 2nd shooter
etc etc

Most of that stuff was day 1 but a lot of it was on day 2

I don't know why they feel the need to be first, I have never switched coverage on TV because i thought another channel was breaking all the news. Just get it right and get it to me as fast as you can. I don't need up to the minute briefings unless the killer is at large or something.
 
2012-12-18 03:52:26 PM  
First reports on big news is always wrong. People brought on as experts are anything but.

But people need to know the news even if it isn't!!!!!
 
2012-12-18 03:52:44 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: IANAL so I wonder what legal grounds Ryan Lanza has to sue any news agency that initially said he was the shooter for defamation. They might be more willing to slow down and get things right if they had to pay $100 million every time they were very wrong.


It's difficult. Torts was a long time ago, but IIRC, Lanza (the non-shooter) has to show damages to is reputation. If those damages were temporary (everyone pretty much knows he wasn't the shooter now), how much are his damages really worth?
 
2012-12-18 03:52:48 PM  

make me some tea: Rincewind53: make me some tea: Same thing happened on 9/11. Scared the piss out of everybody with all the rumors flying around.

And yet the conspiracy theorist still believe that the incorrect stories were actually suppressed information.

Yup. All of that nonsense perpetuated the 9/11 Truther crap.
.


The conspiracy stories are already flying on this one because of bad reporting. Like "How did he use the AR15 when it was in the trunk?" and "WHAR SECOND SHOOTER WHAR!!!??!?"

sigh
 
2012-12-18 03:52:48 PM  
You don't say!
 
2012-12-18 03:53:19 PM  

StopLurkListen: YOU MEAN THOSE CHILDREN AREN'T DEAD?


ok, I lol'd
 
2012-12-18 03:53:28 PM  
Probably the best thing you can do after a big incident like this is to just turn off your TV and radio and read a book or something for the next 24-48 hours.
 
2012-12-18 03:54:14 PM  
BUT THEY WERE FIRST TO REPORT INCORRECTLY!!!
 
2012-12-18 03:54:16 PM  
Because people like Farkers don't care about getting the facts right; they want the thrills and story.

Don't blame the news networks. If you want to see who's to blame, look in a mirror.
 
2012-12-18 03:54:56 PM  
How bout get it right the first time even if you're not the first to break the story. That's much more credible than any of this cluster fu*k has been. It's been four days and some of these dumbasses still get the shooters age wrong.
 
2012-12-18 03:55:24 PM  
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE !

www.timvp.com
 
2012-12-18 03:56:03 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: IANAL so I wonder what legal grounds Ryan Lanza has to sue any news agency that initially said he was the shooter for defamation. They might be more willing to slow down and get things right if they had to pay $100 million every time they were very wrong.


He can sue, but as someone noted above, it's not all that easy; press/TV/radio/papers are under the standard outlined in NY Times v. Sullivan, iirc.

Plus, they've got more lawyers than you do.

Iirc, one high profile case, years ago, Carol Burnett, the entertainer, won millions from the National Enquirer (iirc) when they falsely claimed she was an alcoholic.

So, it's not impossible, just tough.
 
2012-12-18 03:56:45 PM  
I like it this way better, because I can pick and choose the version of the story that most agrees with my political beliefs.
 
2012-12-18 03:57:02 PM  
There are also news agencies that will knowingly report (fail to report) things as a result of political interests regardless of the truth.
 
2012-12-18 03:57:24 PM  
I am gross and perverted
Im obsessed n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little had changed
I am the tool of the government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you

I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think Im delicious
With the stuff that I say
I am the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I am the slime oozin out
From your tv set

You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't got for help...no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
 
2012-12-18 03:57:33 PM  
The local news here had a story about a 23 year old girl named something like Mary Beth Simpson who was arrested for drugs.

Of course they did their journalistic duty, ran to Facebook, and posted a picture of a 47 year old Mary Beth Simpson who was no relation.

I'm not very big on lawsuits but in the case she's suing and I hope she wins.
 
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