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(Huffington Post Canada)   Dear Media, Adam Lanza was not one of us. Sincerely, The Goths   (huffingtonpost.ca) divider line 248
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2012-12-18 11:35:01 AM
People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?
 
2012-12-18 11:46:39 AM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.
 
2012-12-18 11:53:52 AM

St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.


Oh, I know. I've known quite a few people who attend goth clubs because they fit in there the best. I've just never seen them classify themselves as "goths" or anybody who is into sports as "jocks."
 
2012-12-18 11:54:25 AM
Goths? You guys are still around?

How quaint.
 
2012-12-18 12:01:32 PM
Find one Marilyn Manson song on this guy's iPod and it's all over.
 
2012-12-18 12:27:20 PM
We're always so quick to blame things of goths and vandals. Who do we think we are, ancient Rome?
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-12-18 12:38:49 PM
FTFA: There are no photographs of him dressed as a Goth.

Well, I'm convinced now. The author has seen every single photo taken of this loser. I also take it that since we haven't seen any pictures of her having sex, she must be a virgin.
 
2012-12-18 01:17:07 PM
Was his stool checked for Bats?
 
2012-12-18 01:38:47 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


Yes.

You nerd.

In other news, Adam Lanza wasn't a goth, but he sure had mastered that whole crazy-eye thing. I think we need to lock up anyone who's got the crazy-eye thing going on. They're bound to shoot a bunch of people.
 
2012-12-18 01:45:01 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


Well yeah. You have to be precise if you want to find the specific porn you're looking for.
 
2012-12-18 01:50:11 PM
In fact, since there are no area Goth kids quoted in any of the news reports reacting to this claim I think there's a pretty good chance that there were no Goths in Newtown

Oh my god your deductive reasoning is flawless. Where do I sign up to buy your book you brilliant Goth angel.
 
2012-12-18 01:53:24 PM
Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.
 
2012-12-18 01:56:54 PM
"It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."
 
2012-12-18 01:58:37 PM

St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.


I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...

Oh, that's right, I'm one of those people that waves my middle finger as forced styles. Go fark yourself, I wear what I want, not what my interests tell me I should wear.
 
2012-12-18 01:59:19 PM

Millennium: We're always so quick to blame things of goths and vandals. Who do we think we are, ancient Rome?


There are a number of striking similarities now that you mention it
 
2012-12-18 01:59:20 PM

tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."


I dated her. Seriously.

I always thought the goffs were kinda funny before that. After that, I now know that they aren't funny at all. They're kind of sad, in that "really pathetic quest for attention" kind of way.
 
2012-12-18 02:00:46 PM
thumbs2.modthesims.info

Sincerely.
 
2012-12-18 02:01:42 PM
Yes, but was he Roman? Did he fight at all in the Gothic War? Did these battle scars cause him to flip out and murder?
 
2012-12-18 02:02:41 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.

I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...

Oh, that's right, I'm one of those people that waves my middle finger as forced styles. Go fark yourself, I wear what I want, not what my interests tell me I should wear.


I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're addressing me with it, so here's a kitten:

t0.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-18 02:02:59 PM
images4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2012-12-18 02:03:08 PM
So is there a list of official goths or something? Did Lanza let his membership elapse or something?
 
2012-12-18 02:03:16 PM

ShawnDoc: Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.


Clearly he was dressing in an ironic fashion, so he must be a hipster!

We need to start rounding up all the hipsters then.
 
2012-12-18 02:03:54 PM
www.games-workshop.com
 
2012-12-18 02:04:09 PM
A goth teabagger - that is an unlikely combination.
 
2012-12-18 02:04:10 PM
Can they stop this blame the video game garbage while their at it? Oh wait the media will never give up that scapegoat.
 
2012-12-18 02:04:28 PM

Glitchwerks: ShawnDoc: Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.

Clearly he was dressing in an ironic fashion, so he must be a hipster!

We need to start rounding up all the hipsters then.


Hipsters carry axes and crossbows, because guns are too mainstream.
 
2012-12-18 02:04:53 PM

St_Francis_P: For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny.


Other places that no one will look at you funny for being an atheist: literally every public place in the country in which you are not wearing a shirt declaring yourself to be an atheist.
 
2012-12-18 02:05:31 PM
Dear Media, The Goths are not one of us. Sincerely, the Visigoths.
 
2012-12-18 02:05:42 PM

Millennium: We're always so quick to blame things of goths and vandals. Who do we think we are, ancient Rome?


Vandals are everything that is wrong with this world. GO BSU! UI sucks more than Duke
 
2012-12-18 02:06:15 PM

thurstonxhowell: St_Francis_P: For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny.

Other places that no one will look at you funny for being an atheist: literally every public place in the country in which you are not wearing a shirt declaring yourself to be an atheist.


Try telling them you're an atheist, or (worse) a pagan. I've seen some unfortunate conversations that way.
 
2012-12-18 02:07:06 PM
a true goth wouldn't care, they'd welcome it as another stab at their heart.
 
2012-12-18 02:07:24 PM

Tr0mBoNe: Dear Media, The Goths are not one of us. Sincerely, the Visigoths.


Dear Visigoths,

fark you.

Sincerely,

The Roman Empire And Civilization
 
2012-12-18 02:07:31 PM
so was he an ostro or a visi?
 
2012-12-18 02:07:54 PM
I heard he was also not a True Scotsman, either.
 
2012-12-18 02:07:59 PM

drxym: Did Lanza let his membership elapse or something?


This caused me to look and see if there are goth magazines. There are. A sh*t-ton of them.

www.adorabatbrat.com
 
2012-12-18 02:08:43 PM
images.zap2it.com
 
2012-12-18 02:08:44 PM
www.everyjoe.com
 
2012-12-18 02:08:58 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


yup. I still self identify as nerd.
 
2012-12-18 02:09:02 PM

chappy62: [images4.wikia.nocookie.net image 575x427]


Those look like vampires.
 
2012-12-18 02:09:37 PM
houseofpomegranates.com
Guys, she's a music and cultural journalist. Take her seriously.
 
2012-12-18 02:10:15 PM
Look Goths, representatives from Gaming, Violent Movies, Metal Music, Rap Music, Pornography, and Nerf (who invited themselves to the meeting) all got together and voted and it was decided that it was your turn to take the blame. I know you're upset because you took the blame before, but that just means you have the most experience. A lot of thought was put into trying to shift some of the blame onto those Brony or Steampunk weirdos, but no one can take them seriously, so it's up to you for the next few weeks to distract the nation from even thinking that it might need to change the way it things about gun laws and the culture surrounding them. So just jump on that grenade and take one for the team, please? We promise that next time we'll pass the blame onto the Gays or people who look different.
 
2012-12-18 02:10:45 PM

LeroyBourne: houseofpomegranates.com


I think it's about time we passed a law. A law that if you're going to dress like a schoolgirl, you shouldn't have arms like a trucker.
 
2012-12-18 02:11:25 PM
A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?
 
2012-12-18 02:13:03 PM

St_Francis_P: DeathByGeekSquad: St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.

I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...

Oh, that's right, I'm one of those people that waves my middle finger as forced styles. Go fark yourself, I wear what I want, not what my interests tell me I should wear.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're addressing me with it, so here's a kitten:

[t0.gstatic.com image 257x196]


I found that to be delightfully 'wtf?' as well. I think you inadvertently hit a nerve with that one.
 
2012-12-18 02:13:12 PM
Wow. That article author is a bit hypocritical. She's writing an article about media inaccurately linking a group (goths) with a disliked individual/action (shooter and mass murder).

Then she puts this gem in her article:
The fact that the most media outlets who have run with this are generally tabloids or right-wing is not a surprise. That's what they do best, inflame and demonize. And so they picked up on one comment from one rather dubious source. The Associated Press quotes Newtown-area parent Catherine Urso outside a vigil on the Friday night as saying her college-age son knew the killer. "He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the goths." 

So... she publishes a media article linking a group (right-wing) with a disliked individual/action (publishing allegedly inaccurate information, inflaming, demonizing). Not to mention she performs no Fact Finding on whether they're right-wing media or that their information is inaccurate. In fact, the allegedly "inaccurate information" is from a cited AP source with witness testimony.

IRONIC EXPLOSION.
 
2012-12-18 02:13:17 PM
I thought he was teabagger type.
 
2012-12-18 02:14:24 PM

Lumbar Puncture: Look Goths, representatives from Gaming, Violent Movies, Metal Music, Rap Music, Pornography, and Nerf (who invited themselves to the meeting) all got together and voted and it was decided that it was your turn to take the blame.


Turn?

Pretty sure that 20/20 pulled this same thing back during Columbine... and pretty much every time since, along with all the other usual suspects.

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?



C) Paranoia, Paranoia, la, la-la-la-la.
 
2012-12-18 02:15:51 PM

kwame: LeroyBourne: houseofpomegranates.com

I think it's about time we passed a law. A law that if you're going to dress like a schoolgirl, you shouldn't have arms like a trucker.


No kidding, the 'school girl' out fit usually drives me nuts in the good way, this does nothing.
 
2012-12-18 02:15:53 PM
I banged a "Goth" black chick once.
/The head was to die for
 
2012-12-18 02:16:17 PM
He's more like one of these

plimages.blob.core.windows.net
 
2012-12-18 02:16:30 PM

Rent Party: tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."

I dated her. Seriously.


Cool, so did I. Liisa gets around!
 
2012-12-18 02:16:51 PM
Goths having an image problem?

If only there was some kind of image service catering to Goths...

/goes to put on 'Cradle of Filth' to make sense of life
 
2012-12-18 02:17:26 PM

drxym: So is there a list of official goths or something? Did Lanza let his membership elapse or something?


So Ryan Lanza, Adam Lanza's brother, was initially named as the culprit.

I wonder what Tony Lanza thinks of all this...

/hold me closer, Tony Lanza
 
2012-12-18 02:17:34 PM

St_Francis_P: Try telling them you're an atheist, or (worse) a pagan. I've seen some unfortunate conversations that way.


Well there's your problem. How about have a conversation with someone and pretend they don't give a flying fark about what you believe or don't believe in. If you have to label yourself in every conversation, it might be why people look at you funny.

This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2012-12-18 02:17:34 PM
He was goth just look at his hair.


hereandnow.wbur.org

At least he didn't kill his barber.
 
2012-12-18 02:17:36 PM
With the home schooling, social awkwardness and mental issues, I thought for sure he was a Christian nutjob.
 
2012-12-18 02:18:07 PM
data.whicdn.com
 
2012-12-18 02:18:12 PM
Let's ban Goths.

/problem solved
 
2012-12-18 02:18:57 PM

St_Francis_P: DeathByGeekSquad: St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.

I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...

Oh, that's right, I'm one of those people that waves my middle finger as forced styles. Go fark yourself, I wear what I want, not what my interests tell me I should wear.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're addressing me with it, so here's a kitten:

[t0.gstatic.com image 257x196]


For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny.

Nobody looks at me funny, and I'm an atheist. I don't stick out from the general population. I don't need to go to some place special to be in a place where no one will look at me funny, because I don't believe in the idea that because I'm an atheist, I need to dress and act differently than others.
 
2012-12-18 02:18:57 PM
She has a point, however, Goths are silly silly people.
 
2012-12-18 02:19:12 PM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-18 02:19:29 PM

genepool lifeboat: St_Francis_P: Try telling them you're an atheist, or (worse) a pagan. I've seen some unfortunate conversations that way.

Well there's your problem. How about have a conversation with someone and pretend they don't give a flying fark about what you believe or don't believe in. If you have to label yourself in every conversation, it might be why people look at you funny.

This is why we can't have nice things.


I don't talk about my beliefs, I know better. It's been people I'm with. I understand though, sometimes it's nice to know you're accepted. If you don't care, good for you.
 
2012-12-18 02:19:34 PM

kwame: LeroyBourne: houseofpomegranates.com

I think it's about time we passed a law. A law that if you're going to dress like a schoolgirl, you shouldn't have arms like a trucker.


I want to recreate her wall "art" but use rubber chickens instead of the little doll things..
 
2012-12-18 02:19:35 PM
Of course he's not!
Everyone knows he simply represents gun owners everywhere.
 
2012-12-18 02:19:44 PM

Lumbar Puncture: We promise that next time we'll pass the blame onto the Gays or people who look different.


Church mass shooting. THAT you could probably blame on the gays.

Or militant atheists.
 
2012-12-18 02:20:11 PM
Wow... is that all we have to do? OK, then.

DEAR WORLD: [NAME REDACTED] WAS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO TOUCH A GUN, NOT EVEN A SINGLE ROUND OF AMMO, AND WE'VE SUPPORTED THAT PROHIBITION SINCE 1968. Yours truly, THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION
 
2012-12-18 02:20:27 PM
Goth is still a thing? I thought it went away 5 or 6 years ago when emo and scene kids started showing up.

Also, came for Gothapotamus, and left disappointed.
 
2012-12-18 02:20:42 PM

xanadian: Lumbar Puncture: We promise that next time we'll pass the blame onto the Gays or people who look different.

Church mass shooting. THAT you could probably blame on the gays.

Or militant atheists.


Or militant altar boys.
 
2012-12-18 02:21:02 PM

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


They tried, but Bela Lugosi is dead.
 
2012-12-18 02:21:05 PM

CapeFearCadaver: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x664]


That's goth? That's ....actually kind of sharp.
 
2012-12-18 02:21:09 PM
I'm more of an Ostrogoth, myself.
 
2012-12-18 02:21:36 PM

wildcardjack: He's more like one of these

[plimages.blob.core.windows.net image 300x300]


Wasn't he in the Producers?
 
2012-12-18 02:21:41 PM

SkunkWerks: xanadian: Lumbar Puncture: We promise that next time we'll pass the blame onto the Gays or people who look different.

Church mass shooting. THAT you could probably blame on the gays.

Or militant atheists.

Or militant altar boys.


Only if it's a catholic church.
 
2012-12-18 02:22:04 PM

xanadian: CapeFearCadaver: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x664]

That's goth? That's ....actually kind of sharp.


It was when I was in HS.

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-18 02:22:17 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Nobody looks at me funny, and I'm an atheist. I don't stick out from the general population. I don't need to go to some place special to be in a place where no one will look at me funny, because I don't believe in the idea that because I'm an atheist, I need to dress and act differently than others.


I have five bucks right here that says people look at you funny.
 
2012-12-18 02:22:41 PM

Milo Minderbinder: I'm more of an Ostrogoth, myself.


Viking here.

In other news, speaking of militant atheists, I can't wait to go home and have another bottle of my quadrupel. Although it IS a bit too sweet for my tastes, but it is otherwise pretty damn good.

You think I could remember the brand name. :/
 
2012-12-18 02:22:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N1M7Kwl81A
 
2012-12-18 02:22:51 PM

El_Swino: Rent Party: tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."

I dated her. Seriously.

Cool, so did I. Liisa gets around!


* high five *
 
2012-12-18 02:22:52 PM
euromath.orgupload.wikimedia.org 
Did anyone check Sweden or Spain?
 
2012-12-18 02:23:05 PM

genepool lifeboat: St_Francis_P: Try telling them you're an atheist, or (worse) a pagan. I've seen some unfortunate conversations that way.

Well there's your problem. How about have a conversation with someone and pretend they don't give a flying fark about what you believe or don't believe in. If you have to label yourself in every conversation, it might be why people look at you funny.

This is why we can't have nice things.


Actual conversation whilst passing through one of the Monopoly property states

>"Hi, welcome! How long will you be staying?"
"Thank you! Through to Tuesday or so"
>"Oh how nice. Have you found a church yet?"
"Oh no thank you, we won't need one. We don't go."
>*icy stare* "here are your keys."

Atheism and agnosticism are the only mainstream belief systems you have to still have to conceal in the west.
 
2012-12-18 02:23:40 PM
It's pretty obvious he's not Goth but Emo.
observe:

userserve-ak.last.fm
hereandnow.wbur.org
 
2012-12-18 02:23:58 PM
Dear Goths,

Nobody cares. Nobody asked. You are still a bunch of nitwits.

Sincerely,

Everyone
 
2012-12-18 02:24:19 PM

wambu: Let's ban Goths.

/problem solved


If we ban Goths, only the criminals will have Goths!
 
2012-12-18 02:24:26 PM

SkunkWerks: [thumbs2.modthesims.info image 500x500]

Sincerely.




They're creepy and they're kooky
img109.imageshack.us
Mysterious and spooky,
 
2012-12-18 02:24:31 PM
Dear Goths,

You were morons then. You are morons now. But you no longer hold primacy. Today we have Hipsters, who are almost as big a bunch of douches as you were in your heyday. So, you can imagine that we don't much care what you think.

Sincerely,
The World
 
2012-12-18 02:25:21 PM
Speaking as a post-Goth, (you're never really post-Goth). We don't shoot people. We shoot amazing photography--whimsically. We're artists who are not afraid of the dark. We're colorblind and don't want to look ridiculous. We're melancholy, with a bit of morbid, and occasionally dreary. We are many things, and we are not totally afraid of colours (we use british spellings for stylistic reasons), we just like to fit in (with our own). We are usually bad dancers (but sometimes amazing world class dancers), and we like music with strong bass and dark tones. We would like to regulate the wearing of black, but understand that this is not as important as other issues and don't push our agenda.

/gothout
 
2012-12-18 02:25:21 PM

CapeFearCadaver: xanadian: CapeFearCadaver: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x664]

That's goth? That's ....actually kind of sharp.

It was when I was in HS.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 469x700]


Oh, the 80s. How I miss you. We had a few in my school who dressed like that. Not sure if they'd REALLY be considered 'goth.' A couple of them were really into the Cure, so I donno. They were otherwise really cool (but sometimes aloof) people.

Me? I only dressed in black. Especially the turtlenecks. Because BATMAN!
 
2012-12-18 02:25:24 PM

wildcardjack: He's more like one of these

[plimages.blob.core.windows.net image 300x300]


WTF is that? Seriously WTF is that fat fark?
 
2012-12-18 02:25:31 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Nobody looks at me funny, and I'm an atheist. I don't stick out from the general population. I don't need to go to some place special to be in a place where no one will look at me funny, because I don't believe in the idea that because I'm an atheist, I need to dress and act differently than others.


That's why I carry Holy Water where ever I go. Just a few sprinkles brings out the atheists right away. Nothing like the burning sensation to cleanse their souls.
 
2012-12-18 02:25:39 PM

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


Dude, Bela-

Cerebral Knievel: They tried, but Bela Lugosi is dead.


Gawd Damm It!
 
2012-12-18 02:25:41 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


Yes, but at least they can all agree that Ferris Bueller is a righteous dude.
 
2012-12-18 02:26:25 PM
Dear Goths,

You're not as interesting as you think you are. Not even close.

Sincerely,
The World
 
2012-12-18 02:26:43 PM

St_Francis_P: genepool lifeboat: St_Francis_P: Try telling them you're an atheist, or (worse) a pagan. I've seen some unfortunate conversations that way.

Well there's your problem. How about have a conversation with someone and pretend they don't give a flying fark about what you believe or don't believe in. If you have to label yourself in every conversation, it might be why people look at you funny.

This is why we can't have nice things.

I don't talk about my beliefs, I know better. It's been people I'm with. I understand though, sometimes it's nice to know you're accepted. If you don't care, good for you.


So... You friends say "Hey, meet St. Francis. He's an ATHIEST!!!!" Or do they say "Hi, I'm St Francises friend and I'M AN ATHEIST!!!"

Either way, it doesn't change anything. No one is going to look at you funny because you're an atheist. They're going to look at you funny because you dress like a retard and are an egregious attention whore.
 
2012-12-18 02:27:43 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: DeathByGeekSquad: Nobody looks at me funny, and I'm an atheist. I don't stick out from the general population. I don't need to go to some place special to be in a place where no one will look at me funny, because I don't believe in the idea that because I'm an atheist, I need to dress and act differently than others.

I have five bucks right here that says people look at you funny.


For five bucks, I'll look at anybody funny.
 
2012-12-18 02:28:37 PM

wildcardjack: He's more like one of these

[plimages.blob.core.windows.net image 300x300]


Terrifyingly this is the most accurate post in the thread.
 
2012-12-18 02:28:48 PM

xanadian: Oh, the 80s. How I miss you. We had a few in my school who dressed like that. Not sure if they'd REALLY be considered 'goth.' A couple of them were really into the Cure, so I donno. They were otherwise really cool (but sometimes aloof) people.

Me? I only dressed in black. Especially the turtlenecks. Because BATMAN!


encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Another of Mr. Koviak:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-18 02:28:56 PM
The Newtown, Connecticut killer is not a Goth. And so I shouldn't even be writing this. And yet here we are. Again.

Dear Ms. Goth.
Welcome to our Hell.
Signed - The 99.9999999% of lawful gun owners who didn't murder any school kids this week.
 
2012-12-18 02:29:09 PM

assjuice: A goth teabagger - that is an unlikely combination.


I dunno if that's so far fetched. They're human and personal opinions will vary. I've definitely met republican goths and even goths with opinions that could be considered Randian.

If you shift from goth to the dark neo-folk realm you'll see people into the Nazi aesthetic most notably the musicians Death in June and Boyd Rice.

And no I'm not equating the new Tea Party with Nazis... I was just saying that there are people of all types out there.

/Does this still count as a Godwin?
 
2012-12-18 02:29:47 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: SkunkWerks: [thumbs2.modthesims.info image 500x500]

Sincerely.



They're creepy and they're kooky

Mysterious and spooky,


I bet if the Adams Family were shown in color it wouldn't be anywhere near as creepy.
 
2012-12-18 02:30:07 PM
Dear Goths,

You still suck in the mosh pit.

Sincerely,
Metalheads
 
2012-12-18 02:30:37 PM

Gunderson: B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?



Bela Lugosi is Dead
 
2012-12-18 02:30:57 PM
Goth...after reading that article, that word has lost all meaning to me now.
 
2012-12-18 02:31:15 PM
What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.
 
2012-12-18 02:33:30 PM

Slaves2Darkness: wildcardjack: He's more like one of these

[plimages.blob.core.windows.net image 300x300]

WTF is that? Seriously WTF is that fat fark?


Google reverse image search says "Doomsday Preppers" which I'm guessing is TV.
 
2012-12-18 02:33:34 PM
Why doesn't everyone just dress and cut their hair exactly alike? Is that so hard? Just watch TV commercials if you need guidance.
 
2012-12-18 02:33:54 PM

Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.


Well, it's hard to rack up the points on a stabbing spree.
 
2012-12-18 02:34:37 PM

assjuice: A goth teabagger - that is an unlikely combination.


img2.etsystatic.com


On a side note: When I woke up this morning, there is no way in the world I would have guessed that I'd find myself interacting with someone who goes by the name "assjuice".
 
2012-12-18 02:35:03 PM

JackieRabbit: Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.

Well, it's hard to rack up the points on a stabbing spree.


the Chinese do it all the time.
but Asians work harder.
 
2012-12-18 02:35:20 PM

gibbon1: Gunderson: B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


Bela Lugosi is Dead


I love them, let's do this one too.
Link
 
2012-12-18 02:36:04 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?

They tried, but Bela Lugosi is dead.


He and I have the same birthday, so...that's something. (I, however, am not dead. At least not as of sending this.)

Also, do we really need to have this conversation every damn time a troubled kid kills people? The same media machine that tells kids "It's OK to be different and to look different - don't judge other people based on how they look/what they wear" falls all over itself to tell us that THIS style is somehow "wrong" because other kids who like that style have killed people.

It's like an especially retarded Godwin - the Gothwin. Any time you blame a behavior on a sociocultural subgroup with no criteria for entry and no good idea of what defines it (what if you hang out with goths, but like pastels and capri pants?), you lose any authority as a fact-finding or -reporting agency.

We should go back to blaming comic books, sugar, jazz, weed, black people/Mexicans, and communism.
 
2012-12-18 02:36:10 PM

Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.


Turns out that 100% of lazy internet trolling involves people with computers.
 
2012-12-18 02:37:09 PM

JackieRabbit: Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.

Well, it's hard to rack up the points on a stabbing spree.


True, but you also get way more bonuses and multipliers.
 
2012-12-18 02:37:22 PM

Dr Dreidel: We should go back to blaming comic books, sugar, jazz, weed, black people/Mexicans, and communism.


imokwiththis.jpg Do you have a newsletter?
 
2012-12-18 02:37:29 PM
He wasn't one of anybody. That was part of his problem.
 
2012-12-18 02:37:31 PM
Now a Visigoth on the other hand...
 
2012-12-18 02:37:34 PM
Way to attention whore yourself out about tragedy for some SEO!

How very gothy of you Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisa.
 
2012-12-18 02:37:44 PM
If we define killers as what they really are, then how do we know what group of uninvolved people to demonize in the press?
 
2012-12-18 02:37:59 PM
The fun thing about Goths is that even if some schmuck self-identifies as a Goth, that schmuck can be rejected by other Goth schmucks as not being a Real Goth, or one of those clueless "Neos" who aren't Real Goths either. For instance if a Goth kills anyone other than himself, he can be repudiated as never having been a Real Goth. If he kills himself, he might have been a Real Goth. There are serious rules for nonconformity, people!
 
2012-12-18 02:38:07 PM
I never really considered myself a Goth, but was called one on a few occasion back in school. I generally wore black or other dark colors, wore a black trenchcoat, had long black hair, and listened to dark music, but I only wore makeup once or twice to a club.

Maybe I was semi-Goth or something
 
2012-12-18 02:38:41 PM
Why the heck does everyone always assume that every troubled, angsty teenager is a goth kid? Cripes sakes the rest of us goths would beat this kid up and take his lunch money.
 
2012-12-18 02:39:05 PM
Goths sure are a destructive lot 
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-18 02:39:40 PM

devilEther: Why doesn't everyone just dress and cut their hair exactly alike? Is that so hard? Just watch TV commercials if you need guidance.


Agreed, and since TV rots your brain I figured I'd watched enough years ago. They got it right once right? I'm assuming? Someone let me know.
lasthairmodels.com
 
2012-12-18 02:40:31 PM

WarszawaScream: Why the heck does everyone always assume that every troubled, angsty teenager is a goth kid? Cripes sakes the rest of us goths would beat this kid up and take his lunch money.


Goth has become a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.
 
2012-12-18 02:41:16 PM

Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.


Testosterone. Testosterone hormone drives men to commit acts of violence.

No wait, I mean the gun did it.
 
2012-12-18 02:41:32 PM

kwame: LeroyBourne: houseofpomegranates.com

I think it's about time we passed a law. A law that if you're going to dress like a schoolgirl, you shouldn't have arms like a trucker.


It was the stance that got me, just makes me cringe for her.
 
2012-12-18 02:41:41 PM
You're tearing me apart, Liisa!
 
2012-12-18 02:41:54 PM
His nose reminds me of a penis. What a dick.
 
2012-12-18 02:42:14 PM

St_Francis_P: Dr Dreidel: We should go back to blaming comic books, sugar, jazz, weed, black people/Mexicans, and communism.

imokwiththis.jpg Do you have a newsletter?


Well, I tried, but "The Coming Comic Book, Sugar, Jazz, Weed, Black People/Mexicans and Communism Apocalypse and How You Can Prevent It" doesn't fit neatly on a masthead.

// also, ever tried to get VC funding for such a newsletter?
// it's all "you're needlessly offensive" this and "I'm not going to fund your paranoid rantings" that and "Double your thorazine dosage, pal" the other...
 
2012-12-18 02:42:50 PM

dittybopper: The Newtown, Connecticut killer is not a Goth. And so I shouldn't even be writing this. And yet here we are. Again.

Dear Ms. Goth.
Welcome to our Hell.
Signed - The 99.9999999% of lawful gun owners who didn't murder any school kids this week.


Nobody thinks lawful gun owners are evil, get off your cross. People ARE looking at the ease of which people who should not have guns are getting them through legal means.

False stupid farking parallel; call me when when goths are killing people with their Manic Panic haircolors.
 
2012-12-18 02:43:39 PM
Count me as one of the nerds who laments Goth going from being a fan of The Cure and Bauhaus, and moving towards being a fan of Marilyn Manson and ICP.
 
2012-12-18 02:43:58 PM

WillyChase: kwame: LeroyBourne: houseofpomegranates.com

I think it's about time we passed a law. A law that if you're going to dress like a schoolgirl, you shouldn't have arms like a trucker.

It was the stance that got me, just makes me cringe for her.


The chub rub was burning, she needed some air up there.
 
2012-12-18 02:44:05 PM

WillyChase: It was the stance that got me, just makes me cringe for her.


She's letting her penis air out.
 
2012-12-18 02:44:16 PM
I'm more of an executive goth.

/well, was a goth in the early-80's.
//Had a full head of hair back then, which helped the 'dos.
///Aspie, but not one of those weird aspies
////more of an executive aspie
 
2012-12-18 02:45:21 PM
Haircuts are horrible for kids with sensory disorders. That, I would guess, explains his haircut. The baggie clothes too, maybe even the briefcase. Media is stupid.

At this point, I'm doubting that he had autism. Maybe he had a learning disorder and mom was nuts in trying to deal with school who would not adapt curriculum unless there was a diagnosis of something like ASD. A learning disorder would be socially stigmatizing, STUPID!
 
2012-12-18 02:45:55 PM
1. Wait for horrific guntoting nutjobber.
2. Classify him as every mildly controversial thing from the last thirty years.
3. Watch that hit counter soar
 
2012-12-18 02:47:02 PM
My favorite goth: 

www.welovecelebz.com
 
2012-12-18 02:47:13 PM

Gunderson: B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


Bela Lugosi's Dead
 
2012-12-18 02:49:02 PM

This text is now purple: Gunderson: B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?

Bela Lugosi's Dead


UNDEADUNDEADUNDEAD
 
2012-12-18 02:49:04 PM
Hey, has anyone mentioned that Bela Lugosi's dead yet?
 
2012-12-18 02:49:06 PM

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


Bela Lugosi's Dead, from what i hear.
 
2012-12-18 02:52:25 PM
This whole goth thing is just a distraction to get us to overlook the most important indicator of this event: Adam Lanza played video games!
 
2012-12-18 02:53:10 PM
Oh, he's very popular Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
 
2012-12-18 02:53:39 PM

Mega Steve: I never really considered myself a Goth, but was called one on a few occasion back in school. I generally wore black or other dark colors, wore a black trenchcoat, had long black hair, and listened to dark music, but I only wore makeup once or twice to a club.

Maybe I was semi-Goth or something


I got that a lot, too. I wore absolutely nothing you could consider goth, I just hung out with the kids who played Vampire: The Gathering and helped some of the guys with their eye make-up.

Maybe, if he talked to anyone at all, he might have talked to some of the goth-like kids at his school. They can be pretty accepting if they don't think you're a poser. Oh, sorry Liisa, poseur.
 
2012-12-18 02:54:11 PM
24.media.tumblr.com

...Robert looks at it like this.
 
2012-12-18 02:57:14 PM
images.buddytv.com
 
2012-12-18 02:58:21 PM

Rent Party: tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."

I dated her. Seriously.

I always thought the goffs were kinda funny before that. After that, I now know that they aren't funny at all. They're kind of sad, in that "really pathetic quest for attention" kind of way.



And yet, they're still better than hipsters.
 
2012-12-18 03:02:52 PM

CapeFearCadaver: Another of Mr. Koviak:
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com


Yow.
 
2012-12-18 03:04:14 PM
i242.photobucket.com


Got some of the blame for Columbine.



/not this again
 
2012-12-18 03:04:17 PM
www.downfallguild.org
I totally love this picture.
 
2012-12-18 03:07:42 PM
titwrench

Yes, but at least they can all agree that Ferris Bueller is a righteous dude.


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


That made me blow a snot bubble
 
2012-12-18 03:08:35 PM

fireclown: Goth has become is a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.


It did in the 80s. This isn't new.
 
2012-12-18 03:09:17 PM
cdn-images.hollywood.com

//Jesus , Goth has come a loooong way
 
2012-12-18 03:09:26 PM

fireclown: WarszawaScream: Why the heck does everyone always assume that every troubled, angsty teenager is a goth kid? Cripes sakes the rest of us goths would beat this kid up and take his lunch money.

Goth has become a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.


I was hoenstly hoping to get more remarks about my idea for rubber chicken based goth art, but what the hell right.

But per comment. Generational generalising.

The folks my age, when teenagers are now breeding, and have been breeding for a while now. When we were growing up, "goth" was the term for used for the brooding weirdo kid who wore dark colors and vampire make up. It's only natural for them to transpose the term to newer generations, even if the term doesn't fit the new trend. Its the term that best fits tye users frame of refrence.
 
2012-12-18 03:10:02 PM

Surool: fireclown: Goth has become is a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.

It did in the 80s. This isn't new.



Didn't mean to imply new. Lazy writing will always be with us.
 
2012-12-18 03:10:15 PM
Avoid stepping on Bela Lugosi
'Cos he's liable to turn and bite
 
2012-12-18 03:10:25 PM
Link

Link

Also, my interest in "goths" doesn't extend past suicide girls.
 
2012-12-18 03:13:02 PM

Madame Ovary: Haircuts are horrible for kids with sensory disorders.


No shiat. It used to be that my son damn near had to be sedated in order to get him a haircut. We went the Flobie route simply because it was the fastest. Hated the vacuum cleaner, too. But he digs my wife, and she's a neat freak, so she got him to enjoy running the vacuum cleaner. He does that on his own now. And as a result, he's more sensitized to the sensory stuff, and goes to the barber with me.

Best thing you can do for autistic kids is as much as possible, treat them like regular kids.


At this point, I'm doubting that he had autism. Maybe he had a learning disorder and mom was nuts in trying to deal with school who would not adapt curriculum unless there was a diagnosis of something like ASD. A learning disorder would be socially stigmatizing, STUPID!


He was an asshole, raised by assholes.
 
2012-12-18 03:14:27 PM

mithras_angel: Rent Party: tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."

I dated her. Seriously.

I always thought the goffs were kinda funny before that. After that, I now know that they aren't funny at all. They're kind of sad, in that "really pathetic quest for attention" kind of way.


And yet, they're still better than hipsters.


I go back and forth. The hipsters, at least, aren't getting their pankake makup all over everything, and you can take them someplace outside on a sunny day.

It's a conundrum, to be sure.
 
2012-12-18 03:14:56 PM
No shiat. The Goths have been gone for over 1000 years
 
2012-12-18 03:16:17 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com
Azrael Abyss was one funny sumbiatch.

/those hockey guys weren't very goth.
 
2012-12-18 03:16:46 PM
"Richmond's out of his room...he's supposed to be in his room...why is he out of his room...?"
26.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-18 03:18:30 PM
No no no.
The word is "GOFF"

/is one

//doesn't have a penchant for alien-look contacts or gunning down 1st graders in broad daylight

/// it's Béla Lugosi btw
 
2012-12-18 03:19:39 PM
sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net
 
2012-12-18 03:20:44 PM
Ugh. I stopped giving a shiat what this whiney goth biatch had to say halfway through.

To the suprise of absolutely no one, it was mostly a narcasistic "people are just too stupid to really understand us, and don't put labels on us, and only we get to decide who is part of our group, not people who just don;t get it, man".

UNtil this whinatribe, I had never once seen him reffered to as a goth.
 
2012-12-18 03:20:45 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: St_Francis_P: DeathByGeekSquad: St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.

I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...

Oh, that's right, I'm one of those people that waves my middle finger as forced styles. Go fark yourself, I wear what I want, not what my interests tell me I should wear.

I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're addressing me with it, so here's a kitten:

[t0.gstatic.com image 257x196]

I found that to be delightfully 'wtf?' as well. I think you inadvertently hit a nerve with that one.


Probably one of those atheist fundamentalists who thinks he can convince people atheism isn't a religion if he preaches it loudly and violently enough.

/if atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair style
 
2012-12-18 03:21:39 PM
 
2012-12-18 03:22:05 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: He was goth just look at his hair.


[hereandnow.wbur.org image 624x478]

At least he didn't kill his barber.


He looks like Emo Phillips.
 
2012-12-18 03:22:06 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-18 03:23:22 PM
I'm an aging hippie and all I got was this case of lumbago.
 
2012-12-18 03:24:19 PM

Mega Steve: Maybe I was semi-Goth or something


visigoth.
 
2012-12-18 03:24:41 PM
loner ≠ goth
 
2012-12-18 03:24:45 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-18 03:24:55 PM
Frowns on these shenanigans

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com 

Oh and this is also needed

t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-18 03:25:54 PM

BojanglesPaladin: UNtil this whinatribe, I had never once seen him reffered to as a goth.


DING!
Liisa is simply DYING to have her group oppressed.
 
2012-12-18 03:28:21 PM

Rent Party: mithras_angel: Rent Party: tallguywithglasseson: "It's nice to meet you, Lisa"
"No, it's Liisa, with two i's. I can tell you were picturing it with one 'i'. It has two."

I dated her. Seriously.

I always thought the goffs were kinda funny before that. After that, I now know that they aren't funny at all. They're kind of sad, in that "really pathetic quest for attention" kind of way.


And yet, they're still better than hipsters.

I go back and forth. The hipsters, at least, aren't getting their pankake makup all over everything, and you can take them someplace outside on a sunny day.

It's a conundrum, to be sure.


And while they (got my big brush out now) may be pretentious, at least they aren't depressing and pathetic.
 
2012-12-18 03:32:38 PM
cdn0.hark.com

Drakkar Noir frowns on all your shenanigans.

/hot like goth Sabrina
 
2012-12-18 03:32:47 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?


People define themselves that way.
 
2012-12-18 03:33:10 PM
wfsb.images.worldnow.com 
2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-18 03:35:20 PM
Dear Self-proclaimed Spokesperson of the Goths,

I read the first couple of paragraphs.

Stop trying to cash in on this tragedy as publicity for your book.

(When you start off your article by denying you're seeking publicity for your book, it's obvious that's what you're doing)

Sincerely,
those of us who didn't realize Lanza was a Goth until you brought it up.
 
2012-12-18 03:37:18 PM
3.bp.blogspot.com


ok i'll do it.
 
2012-12-18 03:39:24 PM
He was never at any of the meetings.
 
2012-12-18 03:41:36 PM
Jeez up to this point I never thought he was goth. Just some sick ahole.
 
2012-12-18 03:41:59 PM

Cerebral Knievel: Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?

They tried, but Bela Lugosi is dead.


undead undead undead
 
2012-12-18 03:43:07 PM

Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.


As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers
 
Ant
2012-12-18 03:44:34 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: I never knew I was supposed to look a certain way if I was an atheist...


Do you mean to say that you're out of uniform? Where's your dead kitten scarf? Your patent baby-skin leather shoes?
 
2012-12-18 03:46:42 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers


As a wanker, I must oppose your most grievous slander against our fair and noble culture. This man had nothing more in common with us than he had with your association.
 
2012-12-18 03:47:56 PM
i357.photobucket.com

/I know they aren't the same, but many thing so, so I'm posting this dammit.
 
Ant
2012-12-18 03:51:11 PM

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


They also identify spies riding in cabs.
 
2012-12-18 03:54:21 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers


Apologies to assholes everywhere if my words offended them.
 
2012-12-18 03:57:03 PM
But he was an NRA member like his mum and a registered Republican
 
2012-12-18 03:58:31 PM

Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers

Apologies to assholes everywhere if my words offended them.


Now you've done it. Apologizing? Nothing offends me more than trying to not offend me. Be an asshole, it means you never have to apologize
 
2012-12-18 03:59:34 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: But he was an NRA member like his mum and a registered Republican


Some of the biggest right wingers I know are thrash metalheads. Definate ly not the same as a goth, but you get my point. I think every click has jerks in it.
 
2012-12-18 03:59:38 PM
I'm incredibly surprised this hasn't fallen into the "post hot goth girls" forum it usually does.
 
2012-12-18 04:00:12 PM

JohnCarter: Frowns on these shenanigans

[encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 263x192] 


That frowner isn't a goth, that's a Juggalette. I'll take goths over Juggalos every time.
 
2012-12-18 04:01:32 PM

meat0918: Glitchwerks: ShawnDoc: Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.

Clearly he was dressing in an ironic fashion, so he must be a hipster!

We need to start rounding up all the hipsters then.

Hipsters carry axes and crossbows, because guns are too mainstream.



I carry a guisarme. It's pretty obscure, you've probably never heard of it.

/this just in, Bela Lugosi is still dead.
 
2012-12-18 04:02:35 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: But he was an NRA member like his mum and a registered Republican


You should go over to FOX Nation and tell them that. I immediately went there after the shooting went down because I dunno. I like seeing their seething hate. Lots of people in there were claiming that he and his mom were liberals and that their weak minds led him to commit the crime.

It's quite the right vs. left full froth word brawl over there.
 
2012-12-18 04:02:45 PM

drxym: So is there a list of official goths or something? Did Lanza let his membership elapse or something?


You need a paid deviant art account.
 
2012-12-18 04:02:51 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers

Apologies to assholes everywhere if my words offended them.

Now you've done it. Apologizing? Nothing offends me more than trying to not offend me. Be an asshole, it means you never have to apologize


Let me re-phrase my non-apology apology, you asshole.

"I'm sorry if people were offended."

Geeze. I gotta do everything for you guys.
 
2012-12-18 04:09:52 PM

Louisiana_Sitar_Club: assjuice: A goth teabagger - that is an unlikely combination.

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On a side note: When I woke up this morning, there is no way in the world I would have guessed that I'd find myself interacting with someone who goes by the name "assjuice".


Welcome to Fark.

;)

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Got some of the blame for Columbine.



/not this again


Because he's weird and edgy and his lyrics are all up in this biatch. So he's gonna be a scapegoat.

/The Dope Show is probably one of my favorites
//with that having been said, metal/rap/etc tend to be better lyrically than melodically
///well, to ME, anyway
 
2012-12-18 04:17:42 PM

Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers

Apologies to assholes everywhere if my words offended them.

Now you've done it. Apologizing? Nothing offends me more than trying to not offend me. Be an asshole, it means you never have to apologize

Let me re-phrase my non-apology apology, you asshole.

"I'm sorry if people were offended."

Geeze. I gotta do everything for you guys.


That's better. Now I can be my merry old grumpy self
 
2012-12-18 04:25:02 PM

my herniated disc: Cerebral Knievel: Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?

They tried, but Bela Lugosi is dead.

undead undead undead


The bats have left the bell tower, the victims have been bled.
 
2012-12-18 04:25:40 PM
Does this mean I have to cut off my Schwabian knot?
 
2012-12-18 04:26:25 PM

Slowdog: meat0918: Glitchwerks: ShawnDoc: Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.

Clearly he was dressing in an ironic fashion, so he must be a hipster!

We need to start rounding up all the hipsters then.

Hipsters carry axes and crossbows, because guns are too mainstream.


I carry a guisarme. It's pretty obscure, you've probably never heard of it.

/this just in, Bela Lugosi is still dead.


Is Boris Karloff a suspect?
 
2012-12-18 04:27:53 PM

FauxReal: Princess Ryans Knickers: But he was an NRA member like his mum and a registered Republican

You should go over to FOX Nation and tell them that. I immediately went there after the shooting went down because I dunno. I like seeing their seething hate. Lots of people in there were claiming that he and his mom were liberals and that their weak minds led him to commit the crime.

It's quite the right vs. left full froth word brawl over there.


All mass murderers, like all dictators, are Libbylib Demnocrat Libbocreeps. Study it out.
 
2012-12-18 04:45:51 PM

Foxxinnia: What is it that connects all these spree shooters? Is it violent video games? A lack of morality? A poor upbringing? Mental illness? Or is it that they all have guns? In fact, over the course of my research, it turns out that 100% of spree shootings are caused by people who have guns. Truly a shocking revelation.


You're on to something.

Now that I think about it, 100% of people who have flown airplanes into World Trade Centers are Arabic. Lets lock up all the Arabs so this never happens again, because abandoning constitutional amendments based on isolated events and not on principles that made this country is a great idea.
 
2012-12-18 04:58:59 PM
It turns out, the latest on Lanza was that he was a vegan.

I knew all along, snortin' Brussels sprouts wasn't good for ya.
 
2012-12-18 05:07:01 PM

Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?


He's dead
 
2012-12-18 05:18:11 PM
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Am I... Dead?
 
2012-12-18 05:20:48 PM

FauxReal: Princess Ryans Knickers: But he was an NRA member like his mum and a registered Republican

You should go over to FOX Nation and tell them that. I immediately went there after the shooting went down because I dunno. I like seeing their seething hate. Lots of people in there were claiming that he and his mom were liberals and that their weak minds led him to commit the crime.

It's quite the right vs. left full froth word brawl over there.



Yeah, it's not like the nonpartisan think-tank we call FARK.
 
2012-12-18 05:26:39 PM

Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: Smeggy Smurf: Rent Party: He was an asshole, raised by assholes.

As a self-appointed spokesman for assholes, don't lump us in with this wanker. We're assholes, not babykillers

Apologies to assholes everywhere if my words offended them.

Now you've done it. Apologizing? Nothing offends me more than trying to not offend me. Be an asshole, it means you never have to apologize

Let me re-phrase my non-apology apology, you asshole.

"I'm sorry if people were offended."

Geeze. I gotta do everything for you guys.


well, he IS an asshole
 
2012-12-18 05:33:34 PM
The universal law of the USA is that no matter how much of a complete psychotic nutcase a kid turns out to be, we must never, under any circumstances, admit that that the parents of said psychopath has anything to do with their defective upbringing. Instead we must always find something else to blame instead, no matter how implausible or flimsy.

That making all parents into sacred cows who's ability to actually be functional parents can never be questioned reflects an even deeper flaw in our society, but that's another story.
 
2012-12-18 05:35:42 PM
I didn't dress the part, but the goths were the clique that I got along with the best in high school.
I'm a bit defensive about them, they're cool people.

That being said, this article writer is just odd. I haven't heard anyone of substance say anything about him being goth. More people are now aware that he may be goth because of her article.


/goth, scene, and emo chicks are hot
 
2012-12-18 05:37:49 PM

Slowdog: meat0918: Glitchwerks: ShawnDoc: Because as we all know, goth's usually carry a briefcase to school and dress in khaki's and button up shirts, often with a pocket protector. Its the defining goth look.

Clearly he was dressing in an ironic fashion, so he must be a hipster!

We need to start rounding up all the hipsters then.

Hipsters carry axes and crossbows, because guns are too mainstream.


I carry a guisarme. It's pretty obscure, you've probably never heard of it.

/this just in, Bela Lugosi is still dead.


That's not obscure.

If you've played an RPG in the last 20 years, you've seen at least one.

I went to find a really obscure weapon, and discovered people really did make swords and daggers with guns in them, AKA, the gunblade.
 
2012-12-18 05:48:17 PM

alcoda: Gunderson: A) Goths don't shoot up schools, they kill Colonels as a couple.

B) Did anyone ask Bela Lugosi his take on this matter?

He's dead


How do you know? Did you stake out his gravesite?
 
2012-12-18 05:55:36 PM
i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-18 06:01:43 PM
For those who are railing about hearing nothing being said about the shooter being goth: a simple google search will show you a bunch of news headllines and quotes calling him goth.
Search engines are your friend.
 
2012-12-18 06:03:06 PM

madpiper: For those who are railing about hearing nothing being said about the shooter being goth: a simple google search will show you a bunch of news headllines and quotes calling him goth.
Search engines are your friend.


If you have to search for it, then is it really 'news'?
 
2012-12-18 06:08:25 PM

madpiper: For those who are railing about hearing nothing being said about the shooter being goth: a simple google search will show you a bunch of news headllines and quotes calling him goth.
Search engines are your friend.


There are a bunch of links in the article, too.
 
2012-12-18 06:22:49 PM

CapeFearCadaver: madpiper: For those who are railing about hearing nothing being said about the shooter being goth: a simple google search will show you a bunch of news headllines and quotes calling him goth.
Search engines are your friend.

If you have to search for it, then is it really 'news'?


Since it was a headline in The Daily Mail, The Mirror, The National Ledger, The Daily Telegraph, all news outlets with readership in the millions then, yeah, I'd call it news. If you don't pay attention to such things doesn't mean it's not newsworthy.
 
2012-12-18 06:27:12 PM

madpiper: If you don't pay attention to such things


You're right, I don't pay attention to tabloids that espouse such stories as a housewife's alien husband.
 
2012-12-18 06:45:10 PM
It's going to be hard to find something in this tragedy that I care less about than whether or not the perpetrator is considered a "goth". 

Kudos, Liiiisa.
 
2012-12-18 06:49:12 PM

RoboZombie: "Richmond's out of his room...he's supposed to be in his room...why is he out of his room...?"
[26.media.tumblr.com image 400x220]


Until he got scurvy and died.
 
2012-12-18 06:59:34 PM

CapeFearCadaver: xanadian: CapeFearCadaver: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x664]

That's goth? That's ....actually kind of sharp.

It was when I was in HS.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 469x700]


yep....that was how I dressed too
 
2012-12-18 07:02:22 PM
crujonessociety.com
 
2012-12-18 07:10:21 PM
More punditry RE: Geekery, amoks, and Newtown

Inevitable after any American massacre committed by a white youth is the inevitable effort to postulate the killer as a goth, a nerd, and an enthusiast of video games. It is a consistently false canard, but a myth that is endlessly and enthusiastically recycled.

As a standard part of our society's ritualistic rhetorical masturbation after a mass shooting, the named parties must now go out and declare: "he wasn't one of us'.

Speaking as an incompetent goth, an avid RPG player and LARPer, and one who has spent far far too much of his life pressing buttons, you know what I think?

I wish that Adam Lanza was a goth, and a Cammie, and a big nerdy RPG player who went to every con. And that his mother was too.

Having a social network certainly would help- a peer group. Knock geek culture all you want, but we are ultimately a social function even for the socially dysfunctional. The obsessive, the autistic, the callous, the clueless- all are welcome, at least for one gaming session. Tolerance of psychological and social shortcomings is one of the biggest virtues (and vices) of geekdom. Who are we to judge? People who live in wood houses shouldn't throw fireballs. Social belonging and cultural affiliation could have mitigated the psychosis of Mr. Lanza.

Even discarding the rosy idealism of 'love and tolerance', I'd still want Lanza to have been a big fat nerd. Because he'd be too busy buying M:TG booster packs, or collectible action figures, or reading Battlestar Galactica fan fictions. Something. Even if he was one of the crazier and more dubious extreme outcast fringes of the SCA, he'd be stocking up on chain mail and katanas, rather than semi-auto firearms.

Having an outlet like LARPing or Goth culture or role-playing games may not have made Adam Lanza a better person, or a more likable or more humane individual. But it would have made him a more harmless individual.

Because geekery ain't cheap. Whether it's custom clothes for cosplay or mercy or just attending events, you run up a tab and fast. And there's a significant time cost for such hobbies- which is time away from the gun range.

As a hypothetical example, were I, say, to make my crit fumble on a D20 and become infused with the dark spirit of Demogorgon- as is supposed to happen when you play Dungeons and Dragons- my subsequent rampage would be more hilarious than horrific. I'm sure many bruises would ensue as I hurled my collected hardback core books at people. Those plastic miniatures could make nasty caltrops.

I wish Lanza had a circle of friends, even if, as would likely be the case, he would be the lowest omega of his little geeky clique. I wish that he had passion, identity, heck, just a mere attachment to his Gundam models might have sufficed. I wish he had some obsessive outlet for his madness, be it Bronydom or Trekdom or endless trolling. I wish that years of fandom had made him less of a danger, diverted him from the combination of isolation and enablement which allowed him to become the pathetic monster that he was.

We're supposed to deny the affiliation of this latest young man to suffer from the mental illness first diagnosed by the Malayans, which is known as amok.


Adam Lanza was not a goth, or a metal head, or a gamer or a nerd or anything else.

But maybe he should have been.
 
2012-12-18 07:33:47 PM

St_Francis_P: The My Little Pony Killer: People still define other groups as "goth" or "jock" after they graduate high school?

Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc., it's one place no one will look at you funny. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some mindless reporters thought he was somehow goth.


Wait... you're comparing an atheist to a goth?!? You think a typical atheist looks funny? How so?
 
2012-12-18 07:49:49 PM

Le Roi en Jaune: More punditry RE: Geekery, amoks, and Newtown

Inevitable after any American massacre committed by a white youth is the inevitable effort to postulate the killer as a goth, a nerd, and an enthusiast of video games. It is a consistently false canard, but a myth that is endlessly and enthusiastically recycled.

As a standard part of our society's ritualistic rhetorical masturbation after a mass shooting, the named parties must now go out and declare: "he wasn't one of us'.

Speaking as an incompetent goth, an avid RPG player and LARPer, and one who has spent far far too much of his life pressing buttons, you know what I think?

I wish that Adam Lanza was a goth, and a Cammie, and a big nerdy RPG player who went to every con. And that his mother was too.

Having a social network certainly would help- a peer group. Knock geek culture all you want, but we are ultimately a social function even for the socially dysfunctional. The obsessive, the autistic, the callous, the clueless- all are welcome, at least for one gaming session. Tolerance of psychological and social shortcomings is one of the biggest virtues (and vices) of geekdom. Who are we to judge? People who live in wood houses shouldn't throw fireballs. Social belonging and cultural affiliation could have mitigated the psychosis of Mr. Lanza.

Even discarding the rosy idealism of 'love and tolerance', I'd still want Lanza to have been a big fat nerd. Because he'd be too busy buying M:TG booster packs, or collectible action figures, or reading Battlestar Galactica fan fictions. Something. Even if he was one of the crazier and more dubious extreme outcast fringes of the SCA, he'd be stocking up on chain mail and katanas, rather than semi-auto firearms.

Having an outlet like LARPing or Goth culture or role-playing games may not have made Adam Lanza a better person, or a more likable or more humane individual. But it would have made him a more harmless individual.

Because geekery ain't cheap. Whether it's ...


Too bad the most insightful comment in the thread came as it was dying
 
2012-12-18 08:13:18 PM
So they get to define someone as not one of them because he did a bad thing? That's not Orwellian.
 
2012-12-18 08:14:01 PM
Next thing you know the Confederation of Thin will be disowning him
 
2012-12-18 08:33:46 PM

Le Roi en Jaune: More punditry RE: Geekery, amoks, and Newtown

Inevitable after any American massacre committed by a white youth is the inevitable effort to postulate the killer as a goth, a nerd, and an enthusiast of video games. It is a consistently false canard, but a myth that is endlessly and enthusiastically recycled.

As a standard part of our society's ritualistic rhetorical masturbation after a mass shooting, the named parties must now go out and declare: "he wasn't one of us'.

Speaking as an incompetent goth, an avid RPG player and LARPer, and one who has spent far far too much of his life pressing buttons, you know what I think?

I wish that Adam Lanza was a goth, and a Cammie, and a big nerdy RPG player who went to every con. And that his mother was too.

Having a social network certainly would help- a peer group. Knock geek culture all you want, but we are ultimately a social function even for the socially dysfunctional. The obsessive, the autistic, the callous, the clueless- all are welcome, at least for one gaming session. Tolerance of psychological and social shortcomings is one of the biggest virtues (and vices) of geekdom. Who are we to judge? People who live in wood houses shouldn't throw fireballs. Social belonging and cultural affiliation could have mitigated the psychosis of Mr. Lanza.

Even discarding the rosy idealism of 'love and tolerance', I'd still want Lanza to have been a big fat nerd. Because he'd be too busy buying M:TG booster packs, or collectible action figures, or reading Battlestar Galactica fan fictions. Something. Even if he was one of the crazier and more dubious extreme outcast fringes of the SCA, he'd be stocking up on chain mail and katanas, rather than semi-auto firearms.

Having an outlet like LARPing or Goth culture or role-playing games may not have made Adam Lanza a better person, or a more likable or more humane individual. But it would have made him a more harmless individual.

Because geekery ain't cheap. Whether it's ...


Nah, he was simply a POS kid who knew right from wrong but wanted the fame/notoriety that came along with angst-fueled mass murder. And he got what he wanted. Who's the next angst-ridden d-bag and how many innocents is he going to mow down so he too can be the most talked about news item?
 
2012-12-18 08:35:28 PM
Sad, the girl who wrote this thinks you can sum up a goth like that? Goths are more than just that, and some aren't that at all. Hell, I'm 39 years old, blond, not depressed at all, and am a successful professional. I'm a goth among other things. I don't play dress up (except for special occasions) and I listen to all kinds of music. I just happen to like that kind too. I moved past my angst-y pro-death poems when I was 15 years old and I'm not obsessed with things of that nature. One of my favorite goth bands plays very inspirational and uplifting music (not to be confused with religious). I guess everyone has to put a tidy label on everything to fit the stupid stereotype. Unfortunately, in the small goth community around here, there are the pathetic crybaby types. But I grew up in a time (and harken back to) when the music was phenomenal. Now if I enjoy that genre, I usually listen to the German stuff; it's just better.

Anyway, disorganized rant. Still no homicidal or suicidal urges.
 
2012-12-18 09:12:40 PM
lolpics.se
 
2012-12-18 09:29:56 PM

St_Francis_P: Yeah, lots of middle-aged sorts still go to goth clubs etc. For one thing, if you're atheist or pagan etc.,


Don't group atheists in with pagans, to an athiest pagans are just as pathetic and silly as Christians.. and usually fatter.
 
2012-12-18 09:36:35 PM
www.deviantart.com
 
2012-12-18 10:06:22 PM

cretinbob: [crujonessociety.com image 640x512]


More Juggalettes, the female counterpart to the Juggalo. Not goths.
 
2012-12-18 10:09:59 PM

Jixa: [www.deviantart.com image 850x495]


Wow that's really good. Yeah, in my gothier days, that's basically what it was, dressing in nice black clothes and listening to synth music in minor keys. Then you get older (and fatter) and buy nice dark suits with dark shirts and jewel ties or jewel shirts and dark ties...

For me, involvement in the NYC and Newark NJ goth scene was the first time that I felt comfortable in a group of people that I wasn't already friends with. Even though I am a gun owner, it never occurred to me (prior to Columbine) that goths would be somehow violent.
 
2012-12-18 10:15:43 PM

CapeFearCadaver: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x664]


Whatever happened to Propaganda Magazine, anyway? I used to flip through that at Tower Books all the time when I was younger (and when Tower was still in business, obviously.)
 
2012-12-18 10:50:05 PM
ftfa: You see, shiatty sensationalist journalism doesn't just doesn't just make for First World Goth Problems™ like arguing with your parents that wearing black nail polish doesn't make you a Satan worshipper, or getting turned down for a job because the HR person secretly suspects you may be a psychopath.

Is it also like how a botched jumble of comparisons "doesn't just doesn't just" make my head hurt?
 
2012-12-18 11:20:03 PM

Le Roi en Jaune: More punditry RE: Geekery, amoks, and Newtown

Inevitable after any American massacre committed by a white youth is the inevitable effort to postulate the killer as a goth, a nerd, and an enthusiast of video games. It is a consistently false canard, but a myth that is endlessly and enthusiastically recycled.

As a standard part of our society's ritualistic rhetorical masturbation after a mass shooting, the named parties must now go out and declare: "he wasn't one of us'.

Speaking as an incompetent goth, an avid RPG player and LARPer, and one who has spent far far too much of his life pressing buttons, you know what I think?

I wish that Adam Lanza was a goth, and a Cammie, and a big nerdy RPG player who went to every con. And that his mother was too.

Having a social network certainly would help- a peer group. Knock geek culture all you want, but we are ultimately a social function even for the socially dysfunctional. The obsessive, the autistic, the callous, the clueless- all are welcome, at least for one gaming session. Tolerance of psychological and social shortcomings is one of the biggest virtues (and vices) of geekdom. Who are we to judge? People who live in wood houses shouldn't throw fireballs. Social belonging and cultural affiliation could have mitigated the psychosis of Mr. Lanza.

Even discarding the rosy idealism of 'love and tolerance', I'd still want Lanza to have been a big fat nerd. Because he'd be too busy buying M:TG booster packs, or collectible action figures, or reading Battlestar Galactica fan fictions. Something. Even if he was one of the crazier and more dubious extreme outcast fringes of the SCA, he'd be stocking up on chain mail and katanas, rather than semi-auto firearms.

Having an outlet like LARPing or Goth culture or role-playing games may not have made Adam Lanza a better person, or a more likable or more humane individual. But it would have made him a more harmless individual.

Because geekery ain't cheap. Whether it's ...

Winnar winnar chicken dinnar!
 
2012-12-19 12:10:33 AM
I used to be a goth, but after Goth-to-Boss I'm now a successful member of the community.
 
2012-12-19 01:11:06 AM
Has anyone labeled him an Aspie yet?
 
2012-12-19 01:29:32 AM

The Short Bald Guy from Benny Hill: I used to be a goth, but after Goth-to-Boss I'm now a successful member of the community.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-19 06:35:18 AM

Le Roi en Jaune: More punditry RE: Geekery, amoks, and Newtown

Inevitable after any American massacre committed by a white youth is the inevitable effort to postulate the killer as a goth, a nerd, and an enthusiast of video games. It is a consistently false canard, but a myth that is endlessly and enthusiastically recycled.

As a standard part of our society's ritualistic rhetorical masturbation after a mass shooting, the named parties must now go out and declare: "he wasn't one of us'.

Speaking as an incompetent goth, an avid RPG player and LARPer, and one who has spent far far too much of his life pressing buttons, you know what I think?

I wish that Adam Lanza was a goth, and a Cammie, and a big nerdy RPG player who went to every con. And that his mother was too.

Having a social network certainly would help- a peer group. Knock geek culture all you want, but we are ultimately a social function even for the socially dysfunctional. The obsessive, the autistic, the callous, the clueless- all are welcome, at least for one gaming session. Tolerance of psychological and social shortcomings is one of the biggest virtues (and vices) of geekdom. Who are we to judge? People who live in wood houses shouldn't throw fireballs. Social belonging and cultural affiliation could have mitigated the psychosis of Mr. Lanza.


This is insightful commentary, but it kinda ignores that Lanza apparently had issues that would have left him incompatible with pretty much any social setting.

It doesn't surprise me he stuck so close to his mother. And I wouldn't be shocked if it was found that murdering her was as much an act of mercy in his mind as it was hatred. Such tends to be the odd cocktail of emotion between co-dependent family members. And the dynamic. The two tend to become a closed circuit, and endless feedback loop.

I don't believe in predestination, but I would say that- more than anything else- Lanza's mother could have made the difference here, and her identity as a "crazy doomsday-prepper" was what sealed this matter. It would be nice to imagine Adam Lanza having another place to go, but I'm betting that his own deep-seated issues, coupled with his mother's, would have precluded all notions of a social life outside that circuit.
 
2012-12-19 08:48:09 AM
This thread is relevant to my interests. Also, perilsensitive is awesome.
 
2012-12-19 09:36:43 AM

SkunkWerks: I don't believe in predestination, but I would say that- more than anything else- Lanza's mother could have made the difference here, and her identity as a "crazy doomsday-prepper" was what sealed this matter. It would be nice to imagine Adam Lanza having another place to go, but I'm betting that his own deep-seated issues, coupled with his mother's, would have precluded all notions of a social life outside that circuit.


She had another son, who hasn't shot up anything yet.

/throw him in jail on suspicion of pre-crime
//maybe single mothers are to blame, because blaming criminals isn't "social justice"
 
2012-12-19 02:00:00 PM

Nurglitch: This thread is relevant to my interests. Also, perilsensitive is awesome.


*high five*
 
2012-12-19 04:38:47 PM

Cerebral Knievel: fireclown: WarszawaScream: Why the heck does everyone always assume that every troubled, angsty teenager is a goth kid? Cripes sakes the rest of us goths would beat this kid up and take his lunch money.

Goth has become a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.

I was hoenstly hoping to get more remarks about my idea for rubber chicken based goth art, but what the hell right.

But per comment. Generational generalising.

The folks my age, when teenagers are now breeding, and have been breeding for a while now. When we were growing up, "goth" was the term for used for the brooding weirdo kid who wore dark colors and vampire make up. It's only natural for them to transpose the term to newer generations, even if the term doesn't fit the new trend. Its the term that best fits tye users frame of refrence.



It just makes no sense to me, "goth" is still an active scene and lumping people into it like that is just... whargarbl makes my head hurt. 
 
2012-12-19 05:26:13 PM

WarszawaScream: Cerebral Knievel: fireclown: WarszawaScream: Why the heck does everyone always assume that every troubled, angsty teenager is a goth kid? Cripes sakes the rest of us goths would beat this kid up and take his lunch money.

Goth has become a kind of shortcut term for depressed kid.

I was hoenstly hoping to get more remarks about my idea for rubber chicken based goth art, but what the hell right.

But per comment. Generational generalising.

The folks my age, when teenagers are now breeding, and have been breeding for a while now. When we were growing up, "goth" was the term for used for the brooding weirdo kid who wore dark colors and vampire make up. It's only natural for them to transpose the term to newer generations, even if the term doesn't fit the new trend. Its the term that best fits tye users frame of refrence.


It just makes no sense to me, "goth" is still an active scene and lumping people into it like that is just... whargarbl makes my head hurt.


I understand your frustration, But I'm talking about people who don't know about "scenes" just labels. tribel affiliations and all that Jazz.

Hell, I was "labeled" a goth back in high school.. I was just into Alice Cooper about 20 years after any one my age should've been and wasn't into Marlyn Manson that much because I thought the dude was ripping off.. the COOP!

The point of my statement, and I hope to make it a little clearer, now that I'm typing it out on the laptop instead of the phone, is that, in my mid to late 30's, Im part of the peer group that is the majority of the... breeders, if you will. many of my friends have children ranging from new born to late teenager. These parents nowadays, have that term "goth" for the dark, broody teenagers and what have you. it was the term that was used in their social circles back then, and it's the one they transpose to the new crop of teenagers that act the same way back when they were kids. Doesn't matter if the kid may now self identify as "emo", for this parental age peer group, "Emo" is just the "New Goth" as every generation wants to make their own labels for themselves

Yes, the Goth scene is still very much active, and it tends to be populated by those that were goths when they were teenagers, with kids of their own, who may, or may not have taken ques from their parents and have become Emo as a result, their parents listened to industrial, they listen to dub step

ya dig?
 
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