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(Yahoo)   It's the Royals versus the Phillies in the 1980 World Series...on Family Feud. Come for the silly facial hair, stay for Richard Dawson attempting to be 'down'   (sports.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2012-12-18 11:21:12 AM  
Those Royals teams of the 70's and early 80's were just brilliant. It seems laughable to say it today, but Royals-Yankees was one of the greatest rivalries in baseball at the time.
 
2012-12-18 11:23:11 AM  
And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!
 
2012-12-18 12:14:17 PM  

Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!


you are correct sir!
 
2012-12-18 12:27:00 PM  
Was one of the answers "hemmoroids"?
 
2012-12-18 01:00:02 PM  
This is right up there with old 70s "Superstars" and "Battle of the Network Stars" reels.
 
2012-12-18 01:00:45 PM  
A "Can Opener" 'sits' on a kitchen counter? Wow the 70s.
 
2012-12-18 01:20:08 PM  

Mentat: Those Royals teams of the 70's and early 80's were just brilliant. It seems laughable to say it today, but Royals-Yankees was one of the greatest rivalries in baseball at the time.



I also know the Royals and White Sox had a good rivalry for a few years in the late 70's.
 
2012-12-18 01:26:32 PM  

Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!


Eddie Matthews would like a word...
 
2012-12-18 01:53:18 PM  

Mentat: Those Royals teams of the 70's and early 80's were just brilliant. It seems laughable to say it today, but Royals-Yankees was one of the greatest rivalries in baseball at the time.


Well, we had an owner who cared about winning back then.


/Lifelong KC fan
// looking like will break 500 this year
/// Fark the Cardinals!
 
2012-12-18 02:08:33 PM  

Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!


Except for the part where Schmidt had more home runs, more gold gloves, more World Series wins, more world series mvps, more home run titles, and did it in front of a more hostile home crowd, you may have a point.
 
2012-12-18 02:12:51 PM  
A portable microwave?
 
2012-12-18 02:14:22 PM  

SilentStrider: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Except for the part where Schmidt had more home runs, more gold gloves, more World Series wins, more world series mvps, more home run titles, and did it in front of a more hostile home crowd, you may have a point.


Schmidt could bare-hand a hot grounder better than any third baseman I have seen before or since. And he could rock a mustache.

I can still hear Harry Kalas calling, "...home run, Michael Jack Schmidt!"

/Damn, I miss Harry Kalas
//And Richie Ashburn
 
2012-12-18 02:17:27 PM  
Ha someone referenced the "Alligator" episode!

Link
 
2012-12-18 02:18:56 PM  
Ah, hair brushes...
 
2012-12-18 02:19:16 PM  

SurfaceTension: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Eddie Matthews would like a word...


Mike Schmidt wins in a goddamned landslide.
 
2012-12-18 02:21:31 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: Was one of the answers "hemmoroids"?


I heard in an interview George Brett say that nobody was happier than he when everyone considered him Psycho Crazy Guy after the pine tar home run, since before then he was Hemorrhoid Guy.
 
2012-12-18 02:27:31 PM  

SilentStrider: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Except for the part where Schmidt had more home runs, more gold gloves, more World Series wins, more world series mvps, more home run titles, and did it in front of a more hostile home crowd, you may have a point.


And since we're in the "Baseball stats that really don't matter" Jeopardy catagory, we can also point out that Brett has one more career RBI than Schmidt.

Oh, and 38 points higher BA, half the number of strikeouts, with almost 2000 more at-bats as well.
 
2012-12-18 02:41:20 PM  

Dafatone: Mike Schmidt wins in a goddamned landslide.


Agreed. It's just that Mathews is definitely in the conversation. Then again, batting for 15 years in front of Hank Aaron will get you a LOT of fat pitches.

But Schmidt is on my all-time starting 9.
 
2012-12-18 02:42:38 PM  

SilentStrider: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Except for the part where Schmidt had more home runs, more gold gloves, more World Series wins, more world series mvps, more home run titles, and did it in front of a more hostile home crowd, you may have a point.


Um KC 1985. Loved it cause the Jays blew the ALCS that year.
 
2012-12-18 02:43:50 PM  

jayhawk88: SilentStrider: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Except for the part where Schmidt had more home runs, more gold gloves, more World Series wins, more world series mvps, more home run titles, and did it in front of a more hostile home crowd, you may have a point.

And since we're in the "Baseball stats that really don't matter" Jeopardy catagory, we can also point out that Brett has one more career RBI than Schmidt.

Oh, and 38 points higher BA, half the number of strikeouts, with almost 2000 more at-bats as well.


Schmidt: career .908 OPS/147 OPS+
Brett: career .857 OPS/135 OPS+
 
2012-12-18 02:45:01 PM  
any george brett article should have this automatically linked in it...

Double Tapered (some nsfw language)

/big #5 fan growing up
 
2012-12-18 02:45:14 PM  

Dafatone: SurfaceTension: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Eddie Matthews would like a word...

Mike Schmidt wins in a goddamned landslide.


A-Rod has a case, depending on how you count the years where he played the more challenging SS. But if you only count accomplishments in games where the guy was playing 3B, there isn't even a debate. It's Schmidt, a gap, then Mathews, then everyone else.

George Brett wasn't even Schmidt's equal as an offensive player, and once you factor in defense there's a bright line between them. Brett's in the tier with Chipper- clear Hall of Famer, but not "inner circle" like Schmidt.
 
2012-12-18 02:48:03 PM  

Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!


Kanye.. is that you?
 
2012-12-18 03:09:57 PM  
It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.
 
2012-12-18 03:40:35 PM  

chimp_ninja: Dafatone: SurfaceTension: Mentat: And fark Mike Schmidt. George Brett is the greatest third baseman of all time. OF ALL TIME!

Eddie Matthews would like a word...

Mike Schmidt wins in a goddamned landslide.

A-Rod has a case, depending on how you count the years where he played the more challenging SS. But if you only count accomplishments in games where the guy was playing 3B, there isn't even a debate. It's Schmidt, a gap, then Mathews, then everyone else.

George Brett wasn't even Schmidt's equal as an offensive player, and once you factor in defense there's a bright line between them. Brett's in the tier with Chipper- clear Hall of Famer, but not "inner circle" like Schmidt.


Braves fan so im guessing quite a bit of homerism involved but offensively I think chips 303 avg 401 obp 529 slugging compare favorably with schmidts 267 380 527 (ops+ be damned)

but where chips is a defensive liability schmidt was a super stud fielding.

_name avg obp slg ops ops+ hr hits rbi innings played rtot (its a defensive stat)
schmidt 267 380 527 908 147 548 2234 1595 18946 +129
matthew 271 376 509 885 143 512 2315 1950 19011 +40
a roid_ 300 384 560 945 143 647 2901 1950 9985 -38
chipper 303 401 529 930 141 468 2726 1623 17105 -15
g brett_ 305 369 487 857 135 317 3154 1596 14582 +54 

/yes i thought of leaving rbi off, but since someone else mentioned it
//giant blocks of numbers
 
2012-12-18 03:53:03 PM  

jimpoz: Some Bass Playing Guy: Was one of the answers "hemmoroids"?

I heard in an interview George Brett say that nobody was happier than he when everyone considered him Psycho Crazy Guy after the pine tar home run, since before then he was Hemorrhoid Guy.


It was fun seeing him come unhinged like that. Eyeballs bulging out....
 
2012-12-18 04:13:18 PM  

farbekrieg: (ops+ be damned)


Why?
 
2012-12-18 04:44:55 PM  

Dear Jerk: It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.


:(

Go Royals!

Fark Dayton Moore. And double Fark Jeff Francouer.
 
2012-12-18 05:28:24 PM  

Rex_Banner: farbekrieg: (ops+ be damned)

Why?


mostly because it fails to back up my arguement and the math starts escalate at that point. at least compared to the other stats which are much more straight forward.

its an excellent indicator of better hitter but 141 vs 147 mentally does not hold the same weight as avg/obp/slg does in my brain

/dinosaur
 
2012-12-18 06:02:08 PM  
Baseball HOF Voting:
Mike Schmidt
Induction 1995
Vote 96.5% (first ballot)

Mike Schmidt was the only inductee in 1995 who was not selected by the veterans committee.

George Brett
Induction 1999
Vote 98.2% (first ballot)

Nolan Ryan, George Brett and Robin Yount are elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. It is the first time since 1936 that three players are elected simultaneously on their first try.
 
2012-12-18 06:29:06 PM  
Rank Player (yrs, age) WAR Position Players Bats
1. Babe Ruth+ (22) 159.2 L
2. Barry Bonds (22) 158.1 L
3. Willie Mays+ (22) 150.8 R
4. Ty Cobb+ (24) 144.9 L
5. Hank Aaron+ (23) 137.3 R
6. Tris Speaker+ (22) 127.8 L
7. Honus Wagner+ (21) 126.2 R
8. Rogers Hornsby+ (23) 124.6 R
9. Stan Musial+ (22) 123.4 L
10. Ted Williams+ (19) 119.8 L
11. Eddie Collins+ (25) 118.5 L
12. Alex Rodriguez (19, 36) 111.4 R
13. Lou Gehrig+ (17) 108.5 L
14. Rickey Henderson+ (25) 106.8 R
15. Mickey Mantle+ (18) 105.5 B
16. Mel Ott+ (22) 104.0 L
17. Mike Schmidt+ (18) 103.0 R
18. Nap Lajoie+ (21) 102.2 R
19. Frank Robinson+ (21) 100.9 R
20. Joe Morgan+ (22) 97.1 L
21. Jimmie Foxx+ (20) 92.5 R
22. Eddie Mathews+ (17) 91.9 L
23. Cap Anson+ (27) 91.1 R
24. Cal Ripken+ (21) 90.9 R
25. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 90.1 L
26. Roberto Clemente+ (18) 89.8 R
27. Albert Pujols (12, 32) 88.5 R
28. Wade Boggs+ (18) 88.3 L
29. Al Kaline+ (22) 87.4 R
30. George Brett+ (21) 84.0 L
31. Chipper Jones (19, 40) 81.5 B

32. Roger Connor+ (18) 80.6 L
33. George Davis+ (20) 80.2 B
34. Ken Griffey (22) 79.2 L
35. Dan Brouthers+ (19) 76.9 L
36. Jeff Bagwell (15) 76.7 R
Pete Rose (24) 76.7 B
38. Rod Carew+ (19) 76.6 L
Charlie Gehringer+ (19) 76.6 L
40. Joe DiMaggio+ (13) 75.1 R
41. Ozzie Smith+ (19) 73.0 B
42. Brooks Robinson+ (23) 72.7 R 

Career WAR, if WAR means anything
 
2012-12-18 07:29:57 PM  
Schmidt is the best all-around 3B in the history of baseball. Brett was surely great, but MJS is the best.

/also miss Harry K
//glad he got to call the 08 Series win before he died
 
2012-12-18 07:35:36 PM  
Cybernetic: //And Richie Ashburn

I miss the old Phillies radio broadcasts when they'd rotate all of the announcers between the TV and radio broadcasts. usually at one point in the middle of the game, Richie Ashburn would be in the radio booth by himself - he'd start telling stories and would forget why he was there. forgot to call the game most of the time.

/and Mike Schmidt was far and away the best 3rd baseman of all time
 
2012-12-18 07:42:16 PM  
On this episode of The Feud: Duke Wathan barrels into Mike Schmidt spikes-high and ends his (off-)season with a knee injury, as Richard Dawson looks on in horror and Quisenberry ad-libs a clever anecdote.

/Dare to dream, I say.

//Oh, and fark Manny Trillo ... no reason, really.
 
2012-12-18 08:33:23 PM  

The Downfall: Ha someone referenced the "Alligator" episode!

Link


That was pretty funny, and Imma let you finish...

...of all time
 
2012-12-18 09:54:55 PM  
I Schmidt spitting his chew into a cup starting at about 13:02? I'd like to give him the benefit of a doubt and say he's drinking something through a straw that I can't see, but I really don't think so.
 
2012-12-18 10:04:01 PM  
It's not the hair or the clothes or the "getting down" that makes this video old.

It's the fact that the Kansas City Royals were actually in the postseason makes this video positively ancient.

:(
 
2012-12-19 12:14:02 AM  
When I was a kid, I loved it when the Yankees came to town.  Goose Gossage vs. George Brett was an epic feud, and it was hilarious watching the fans try to get Billy Martin to melt down.  We used to sit in the old General Admission section by first base.  I was sad to see that go.  I have no idea where GA is now, but with attendance so low, it doesn't really matter.
 
2012-12-19 12:21:28 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Dear Jerk: It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.

:(

Go Royals!

Fark Dayton Moore. And double Fark Jeff Francouer.


Why fark Moore ? The man starting in 2006 fixed a farm system that had been destroyed by Glass. Its now paying dividends. The Meyer trade was a good bold move that was needed. It's planting the flag in the ground and saying we are here to win. Given that ownership is not going to even think of signing Greinke etc kinda free agent you must trade for pitching
 
2012-12-19 01:02:49 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Dear Jerk: It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.

 
:(
 
Go Royals!
 
Fark Dayton Moore. And double Fark Jeff Francouer.
 
Why fark Moore ? The man starting in 2006 fixed a farm system that had been destroyed by Glass. Its now paying dividends. The Meyer trade was a good bold move that was needed. It's planting the flag in the ground and saying we are here to win. Given that ownership is not going to even think of signing Greinke etc kinda free agent you must trade for pitching
 
 
Yeah, Moore basically has to go all in at this point.  Prospects are just useful as future players, they're also useful as trade bait.  If this had happened ten years ago when the farm system was crap, I'd just throw up my hands and say "Same old Royals".  But they have enough talent built up now that if this trade doesn't work, they have talent enough to recover.
 
Besides, what's the worst that could happen, a sub-.500 season and missing the playoffs?
 
2012-12-19 01:33:42 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Dear Jerk: It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.

:(

Go Royals!

Fark Dayton Moore. And double Fark Jeff Francouer.

Why fark Moore ? The man starting in 2006 fixed a farm system that had been destroyed by Glass. Its now paying dividends. The Meyer trade was a good bold move that was needed. It's planting the flag in the ground and saying we are here to win. Given that ownership is not going to even think of signing Greinke etc kinda free agent you must trade for pitching


And when the Royals win 70ish games for the next two years and then lose Shields, at least you can say, "hey, we were there to win."
 
2012-12-19 04:09:42 AM  

Dafatone: Mid_mo_mad_man: Now That's What I Call a Taco!: Dear Jerk: It took me a fraction of a second to recognize Paul Splittorff.
That's a sentence you hear less and less these days.

:(

Go Royals!

Fark Dayton Moore. And double Fark Jeff Francouer.

Why fark Moore ? The man starting in 2006 fixed a farm system that had been destroyed by Glass. Its now paying dividends. The Meyer trade was a good bold move that was needed. It's planting the flag in the ground and saying we are here to win. Given that ownership is not going to even think of signing Greinke etc kinda free agent you must trade for pitching

And when the Royals win 70ish games for the next two years and then lose Shields, at least you can say, "hey, we were there to win."



71 games was the win total for 2011 & 2012 with Hocheaver, Chen, Mendoza, Paulano, Duffy, Smith and Jako O pitching. With Shields,Santana, Guthrie,Davis and who ever wins the 5th spot pitching you are almost assured a 10-15 game improvement. More if Hoz breaks out
 
2012-12-19 11:37:35 AM  

Cybernetic: /Damn, I miss Harry Kalas


Every time I hear Wheels talking about "goofy" left handers, I miss Harry a little more. And T-Mac is just terrible.
 
2012-12-19 03:30:02 PM  
I'm a huge Brett fan and if I would have had a son, his name would have been Brett. It pains me to say it as much as it does to admit that Elway is the best quarterback, but Schmidt was the better player. He was better defensively and had better power. He probably retired too early. Schmidt did have better bats around him, but there is no way of measuring that. As for Chipper, I'd have to evaluate his place. One strike is the stat inflation of his era.
 
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