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2012-12-18 09:56:57 AM
5 votes:
Because they're gagged and tied up in the back room of Maynard's pawn shop with Zed and the Gimp?
2012-12-18 02:07:58 PM
1 votes:

CPennypacker: Epicedion: CPennypacker: Fine, again, take them away. If the only useful solution for protection is a 30 round clip because nobody can hit anything, i'd rather people not have them at all.

So now you get into the territory of whether you prefer innocent people to die because they're not allowed to have guns, or for them to die because someone might use guns they have illegally. Do you have a criteria for which is better?

Yes. We can add up how many civilians died because they were the victims of gun violence and compare that to the number of civilians who protected themselves from death using a gun. Properly weighed for how many of them were farking 7 year olds.


Lets not bring the Catholic Church or Penn State into this.
2012-12-18 12:53:19 PM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Benjamin Orr: Your mom was fixated on my penis last night

My mother died years ago, It must have been your imagination, just like your other "women".


That's gonna leave a mark.
2012-12-18 12:04:48 PM
1 votes:
a.abcnews.com

Sandy Hook Shootings

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Obese dachshund

Move along citizens... nothing to see here...
2012-12-18 11:41:29 AM
1 votes:
Nobody (sane) really thinks that the US citizens could go toe to toe with the US Armed Forces and win. The point is making the Armed Forces fight with the general population. That is pretty much a guarantee for civil war and mass defections.

Having unarmed citizens makes it easier to use the Armed Forces to clamp down on domestic dissent... especially when it is being done "for their own good". Making soldiers shoot their own people is a bit harder.
2012-12-18 11:40:07 AM
1 votes:
How to argue like Dimensio:

1) Never provide citations to back up your claims. Dimensio has probably made 150+ posts on the topic of gun laws since Friday. He has never provided a citation to back up his claims.
2) Misrepresent and cherry-pick statistics. Dimensio occasionally provides "statistics" to back up his claims. But, as noted above, never provides cites for them. If you go searching for the data you find that he has picked a state/country or year that is an outlier and presented that as the only data point.
3) Dismiss any proposed solution as not solving "enough" of the problem. Proposed solutions are dismissed out of hand by DImensio by stating they won't go far enough in addressing the problem. Because, obviously, solutions that solve only part of the problem aren't worth it. Strangely, Dimensio has never provided a value for how "efficient" a solution must be for him to accept it.
4) Callously disregard any statistic about lives lost due to guns. On the weekend someone presented, with citation, the number of gun-related deaths in America over the years. DImensio just dismissed the stat as if it was meaningless.

I never post on Fark, I created this account to vote in Photoshop threads. But I decided to post this because I'm amazed that people are still responding to . It's obvious that he isn't interested in honest debate. He just wants to fill threads with cherry-picked statistics and bare assertions.
2012-12-18 11:22:07 AM
1 votes:

chuckufarlie: Not at all. Those rifles serve no purpose beyond killing lots of people. Sane, rational people understand this. The idea that we should allow people to own weapons capable of killing large groups of people in a hurry is just crazy.


abcnewsradioonline.com
www.jewishjournal.com
I refer to it as Planet Earth, 3rd mudball from the sun.

On a sidenote for those of you crying for a 2nd amendment revisiting, careful what you wish for. That could easily turn around to bite you in the ass harder than you can possibly imagine. A "well regulated militia" should be all the warning you need. But it wont be :(
2012-12-18 11:21:17 AM
1 votes:
Man. I never thought I'd long for a Chick-Fil-A or Trayvon Martin thread.
2012-12-18 10:43:10 AM
1 votes:
Oh, Boy, here we go.........

SFW


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2012-12-18 10:35:57 AM
1 votes:

sweetmelissa31: Because they are literally pro-murder instead of just pro-gun. Why else would they fight for the "stand your ground" laws?


Trayvon could have used that bag of skittles to trip George Zimmerman like the gunball machine that fell over in the beginning of Superman III. Pretty tough to Stand Your Ground if you're slip sliding on delicious balls.
2012-12-18 10:22:04 AM
1 votes:

Summoner101: Guns don't kill people, people kill people.

It's just guns allow those people to kill those people so much more efficiently.


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2012-12-18 10:20:13 AM
1 votes:

sprawl15: bulldg4life: What was done with automatic weapons to remove them from society in such a way and why can't that be done with other types?

They're expensive.

People who have automatic weapons are generally significantly invested in their firearms financially and emotionally. Just like how some people own tanks but those aren't used in crimes. If tanks were $150 from a pawn store, though, they'd be used left and right.


Don't forget all the ATF hoops you have to jump through to get them. It's hard to use a weapon in a crime if you've told the federal government you have it and allow them to search you at any time. It's simply not worth the effort or risk.
2012-12-18 10:14:35 AM
1 votes:
"... Fast clips of ammunition"? Is that like the sequel to "the Internet is a series of tubes"?
2012-12-18 10:13:47 AM
1 votes:
entertaining the possibility of limiting virtually unfettered access to assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

There's got to be a way to put reasonable restrictions, particularly as we look at assault weapons, as we look at these fast clips of ammunition


So, we're not going to address the problem of why people go on rampages, we're just going to make sure they have a slightly slower rate of fire. Got it.
2012-12-18 10:13:38 AM
1 votes:
cause them gunz is killin' peoples!!!


watch out for dem gunz. they hard ta' predict.
2012-12-18 10:03:50 AM
1 votes:
Because they're cowards who've always known that their hollow platitudes and mindless slogans cannot stand up to true scrutiny?

I'm just guessing, mind you.
 
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