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2012-12-18 12:08:02 PM
I guess that's another example of the law of unintended tax consequences.
 
2012-12-18 12:11:25 PM

Nabb1: I guess that's another example of the law of unintended tax consequences.


It's like the exodus from California to Texas.
 
2012-12-18 01:12:55 PM
Are we sure it's not just the beer and fries? Hell, I'm thinking about emigrating for them.
 
2012-12-18 01:13:40 PM
The comments section is... Pretty much what I'd expect from Fox News viewers who have still not fled from Fox after the elections.

/In related news, I got a call from a French Architecture Firm
//This is good
 
2012-12-18 01:16:40 PM

CygnusDarius: The comments section is... Pretty much what I'd expect from Fox News viewers who have still not fled from Fox after the elections.

/In related news, I got a call from a French Architecture Firm
//This is good


Local station website, genius. Just sayin'.
 
2012-12-18 01:39:03 PM

JohnAnnArbor: CygnusDarius: The comments section is... Pretty much what I'd expect from Fox News viewers who have still not fled from Fox after the elections.

/In related news, I got a call from a French Architecture Firm
//This is good

Local station website, genius. Just sayin'.


Local news tends to be weirder.
 
2012-12-18 01:45:07 PM
And, to further my point that some people are just paranoid, this is from the comments section, I'm not going to post the name, but it's there:

If anyone moves to Belgium, keep this in mind. It has a large Muslim population and estimates are by 2023 Belgium will be a majority Muslim country. That in itself creates another problem other than taxes or money. You will be an infidel and Muslims don't like infidels. Seek out Geert Wilders videos to see what's going on in countries like Belgium, Sweden and Eurabia as a whole.
 
2012-12-18 01:51:46 PM

Nabb1: I guess that's another example of the law of unintended tax consequences.


It was unintended the first time. Probably the second time. Maybe the third time. But somewhere around the millionth occurrence of the same action having precisely the same outcome one wonders if that outcome is truly unintended.
 
2012-12-18 02:00:11 PM
Ah yes, Belgium is such a tax haven, what with their top marginal tax rate of 50%.
 
2012-12-18 02:04:19 PM

Arkanaut: Ah yes, Belgium is such a tax haven, what with their top marginal tax rate of 50%.


Beats the fark out of 75%
 
2012-12-18 02:18:59 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Arkanaut: Ah yes, Belgium is such a tax haven, what with their top marginal tax rate of 50%.

Beats the fark out of 75%


Yeah, that's like 50% more

Also if you are going to change countries anyways why not go all out and move to Bermuda?
 
2012-12-18 02:52:14 PM

CujoQuarrel: Dancin_In_Anson: Arkanaut: Ah yes, Belgium is such a tax haven, what with their top marginal tax rate of 50%.

Beats the fark out of 75%

Yeah, that's like 50% more

Also if you are going to change countries anyways why not go all out and move to Bermuda?


Possible reason: Belgium has a large Francophone region that is more culturally similar to France than Bermuda. It's a closer, EU alternative than countries with no (or very little) income tax.
 
2012-12-18 02:52:50 PM

syberpud: Are we sure it's not just the beer and fries? Hell, I'm thinking about emigrating for them.


I've been to Belgium. Had the fries, the beer, and the chocolate (they also make good chocolate). I enjoyed them all immensely. I have been to France. Had the beer, the frites, and the chocolate. France isn't really known for beer, rightfully so. Or chocolate for that matter. But the French wine and the whole of French cuisine more than make up for it and I'll take French wine and cuisine over Belgian beer and fries any day of the week.
 
2012-12-18 02:56:02 PM

Nabb1: I'll take French wine and cuisine over Belgian beer and fries any day of the week


There you go snobbing up a tax thread.
 
2012-12-18 03:16:50 PM

Nabb1: I've been to Belgium. Had the ...chocolate...chocolate...France...Had the...chocolate...France ...rightfully so...chocolate...French...French...I'll take French...


Dude?
 
2012-12-18 03:21:09 PM
Too bad they have to live in Belgium.
 
2012-12-18 04:55:01 PM

CujoQuarrel: Also if you are going to change countries anyways why not go all out and move to Bermuda?


Bermuda doesn't really allow immigration. You can get a visa as a guest worker but citizenship isn't really on the table.
 
2012-12-18 05:28:04 PM

Nabb1: syberpud: Are we sure it's not just the beer and fries? Hell, I'm thinking about emigrating for them.

I've been to Belgium. Had the fries, the beer, and the chocolate (they also make good chocolate). I enjoyed them all immensely. I have been to France. Had the beer, the frites, and the chocolate. France isn't really known for beer, rightfully so. Or chocolate for that matter. But the French wine and the whole of French cuisine more than make up for it and I'll take French wine and cuisine over Belgian beer and fries any day of the week.


You forgot the chocolate covered waffles with all the assorted toppings. Honestly I'm not a big fan of either country but between Brussels and Paris, Brussels is a shiathole. I guess if you're looking to live in the countryside or one of the smaller cities like Bruges then that would be a nice trade off.

So far, if I had to choose a city in Europe my choice would be between Barcelona or Amsterdam. So many more places to see there though. I still need to see Scandinavia, Berlin, Budapest, Prague, Vienna and southern Italy.
 
2012-12-18 05:36:54 PM

Mr. Eugenides: CujoQuarrel: Also if you are going to change countries anyways why not go all out and move to Bermuda?

Bermuda doesn't really allow immigration. You can get a visa as a guest worker but citizenship isn't really on the table.


Caymans the same way?
 
2012-12-18 06:04:23 PM

CujoQuarrel: Mr. Eugenides: CujoQuarrel: Also if you are going to change countries anyways why not go all out and move to Bermuda?

Bermuda doesn't really allow immigration. You can get a visa as a guest worker but citizenship isn't really on the table.

Caymans the same way?


Never looked into the Caymans. I've done quite a bit of work in Bermuda and know people who are on long term work visas who would love to stay but can't get citizenship. You've got to love a country you can walk from end to end in an afternoon.
 
2012-12-18 06:40:49 PM
Shrewd move by Belgium. Attract new tax payers that are capable of paying millions in taxes a year each. Where to draw the Laffer line is always a tricky task. Appears France has overplayed their hand. Doesn't look like the wealthy are willing to pay millions more in taxes a year just for the privilege of being French.
 
2012-12-18 07:24:26 PM
Well, it can't happen here.
 
2012-12-18 08:59:01 PM

Lunchlady: Too bad they have to live in Belgium.


No shiat! It's the Mississippi of the EU.

Arkanaut: Ah yes, Belgium is such a tax haven, what with their top marginal tax rate of 50%.


I assumed the rates were lower, but it would have been nice of TFA to have offered up that info instead of my having to rely on some dude on FARK to give it out.
 
2012-12-18 09:03:56 PM

TomD9938: Lunchlady: Too bad they have to live in Belgium.

No shiat! It's the Mississippi of the EU.


See, I thought that would be Romania.
 
2012-12-18 09:40:25 PM

Arkanaut: TomD9938: Lunchlady: Too bad they have to live in Belgium.

No shiat! It's the Mississippi of the EU.

See, I thought that would be Romania.


That sounds about right.

I guess I was thinking along the lines of the Catfish-Culture in Belgium.

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Big Noodlers, the Belgians.
 
2012-12-19 02:01:06 AM

Pumpernickel bread: Shrewd move by Belgium. Attract new tax payers that are capable of paying millions in taxes a year each. Where to draw the Laffer line is always a tricky task.


Another reason: French speaking Wallonia has been in economic decline as heavy industry has automated and left for cheaper Eastern European and Asian nations. Maybe they hope an influx of affluent French will stabilize the country and prevent Dutch-speaking Flanders from voting session from Wallonia.
 
2012-12-19 04:50:35 AM
Heard that actually, those people who flees France, actually tends to earn a lot of money for France. See, the problem about living in Belgium, is that compared to France, well, it just sucks. Culturally, Belgium is a backward country, compared to France , England, or the USA. Brussels is not Paris, by a freaking long shot. Depardieu is leaving his luxurious "hotel particulier" in the heart of Paris, where he patronizes the local wine shops and restaurants, for a small village close to the border, in the Ardennes, a part of Belgium that the locals deride for being full of barakis, the equivalent of ignorant rednecks on welfare. Lots of the French people who "leaves" France, actually keep an appartement in France, and ends spending so much time there instead of their official residence, that they are considered de-facto residents. And boy oh boy are the penalties steep.
 
2012-12-19 06:12:38 AM

Nabb1: syberpud: Are we sure it's not just the beer and fries? Hell, I'm thinking about emigrating for them.

I've been to Belgium. Had the fries, the beer, and the chocolate (they also make good chocolate). I enjoyed them all immensely. I have been to France. Had the beer, the frites, and the chocolate. France isn't really known for beer, rightfully so. Or chocolate for that matter. But the French wine and the whole of French cuisine more than make up for it and I'll take French wine and cuisine over Belgian beer and fries any day of the week.


What did you eat there, in France? I went, I'd heard stories about the food... and I only went to one place that was anything noteworthy (and at those prices it well ought to have been.) Everyplace else I ate at was like food you get at not-the-best restaurants in New Mexico. (And the sidewalk cafes were much overrated, the odor of the cigarette smoke from everyone around you kind of obscures most of the taste of the food.)

But people go on about how wonderful the food is and I just don't know what I seem to have done differently, to have had very few good meals there...
 
2012-12-19 07:03:46 AM

Pumpernickel bread: Shrewd move by Belgium. Attract new tax payers that are capable of paying millions in taxes a year each. Where to draw the Laffer line is always a tricky task. Appears France has overplayed their hand. Doesn't look like the wealthy are willing to pay millions more in taxes a year just for the privilege of being French.


Not so much "overplayed". It's a deliberate strategy by the French government to try to jump back to the 1970s.

I'm waiting for the Internet to be banned in France. Too English-speaking, too much capitalist propaganda...
 
2012-12-19 08:18:41 AM

padraig: Heard that actually, those people who flees France, actually tends to earn a lot of money for France. See, the problem about living in Belgium, is that compared to France, well, it just sucks. Culturally, Belgium is a backward country, compared to France , England, or the USA. Brussels is not Paris, by a freaking long shot. Depardieu is leaving his luxurious "hotel particulier" in the heart of Paris, where he patronizes the local wine shops and restaurants, for a small village close to the border, in the Ardennes, a part of Belgium that the locals deride for being full of barakis, the equivalent of ignorant rednecks on welfare. Lots of the French people who "leaves" France, actually keep an appartement in France, and ends spending so much time there instead of their official residence, that they are considered de-facto residents. And boy oh boy are the penalties steep.


Yes, but it allows them to have a public, medium/ high profile temper tantrum "Screw you guys; I'm leaving!"...even when they don't really. So they're "winning". Or Something.
 
2012-12-19 08:34:59 AM
Big belchers be Belgians.

Wouldn't wanna get hit by a Belgian Belch, it's much worse than a Hawaiian Punch.
 
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