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(US News)   South Carolina Lawmakers Propose 5-Year Jail Sentence for 'Obamacare' Implementation....HOORAY South Carolina state Rep. Bill Chumley 10th amendment vs. TOTALITARIANS   (usnews.com ) divider line
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2012-12-18 08:20:53 AM  
Video yanked.
 
2012-12-18 08:53:12 AM  
How about a 20 year psychiatric treatment regimen for anyone who submits garbage like this with the hero tag?
 
2012-12-18 08:55:43 AM  
Will this apply to anyone caught providing his premium health care package, as well?
 
2012-12-18 09:07:24 AM  
Cool. So when is this inbred piece of trash going to give up his tax-payer funded health care? I'd hate for the inbred piece of trash to also add the term "turd-sucking hypocrite" to his long, long list of character flaws and intellectual shortcomings.

Look, Republicans? We get it. You're scared and you're stupid. Change is probably more terrifying to you than three Muslims on an international flight, five blacks in a bowling alley, or a single, unsupervised woman driving herself to the gynecologist. The thing is, your problem is not with Obama or the things he's done. Your problem is that you are all clearly too damn stupid to understand whether or not you truly deserve to be outraged.
 
2012-12-18 09:45:07 AM  
That is hilarious. This is the best laugh I've had all day.

Thanks, subby! I needed that!
 
2012-12-18 09:57:17 AM  
UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, however, told U.S. News the proposed law "would be clearly un-enforceable, because the federal law - upheld by the Supreme Court - trumps state law."

"But I assume it's meant to make a political statement, not to have a direct legal effect," adds Volokh.


25.media.tumblr.com

What trumps what?

Trump! Great idea. I'll get him on board too.
 
2012-12-18 10:23:41 AM  
GO SUBBY! YOU JUST GOT YOUR MAN CARD BACK!
 
2012-12-18 10:39:08 AM  
Oh, there are times I miss the Palmetto State, but this is not one of them.
 
2012-12-18 10:55:24 AM  
"I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."


lulz
 
2012-12-18 10:57:11 AM  
Paging Zombie Andrew Jackson. Zombie Andrew Jackson to the white courtesy phone please.
 
2012-12-18 10:57:18 AM  
Butthurt GOP are wasting time, and future legal fees at the taxpayers expense.
 
2012-12-18 10:58:06 AM  
The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."

Nullification?

Death panels!?
 
2012-12-18 10:58:19 AM  

thomps: "I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."

lulz


Unfortunately, there are people who think nullification is a real thing and worship Tom Woods like he's a deity. A lot of them.
 
2012-12-18 10:59:10 AM  

PreMortem: UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, however, told U.S. News the proposed law "would be clearly un-enforceable, because the federal law - upheld by the Supreme Court - trumps state law."


The fact that they had to contact a specialist to get this factoid makes my faith in my countrymen bleed.
 
2012-12-18 10:59:15 AM  
I see Republicans finally learned their lesson after the November shellacking. Carry on
 
2012-12-18 10:59:57 AM  

thomps: "I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."

lulz


Area ManState Legislator Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
 
2012-12-18 10:59:57 AM  
Please proceed secede, Representative.
 
2012-12-18 11:00:27 AM  
Remember shiat like this, refusing Medicare, etc. when Republicans hide behind the lack of mental health care in this country as a reason for mass shootings
 
2012-12-18 11:00:56 AM  
Hey, South Carolina, we already had this discussion back in the 1860s and, as I recall, you came to understand the flaw in your logic (with a little help from the Union Army). Do we need a refresher course?
 
2012-12-18 11:01:29 AM  

Serious Black: thomps: "I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."

lulz

Unfortunately, there are people who think nullification is a real thing and worship Tom Woods like he's a deity. A lot of them.


nullification now, nullification forever.
 
2012-12-18 11:02:34 AM  
WE GET IT. HE'S BLACK

/I'll stop posting this when it stops being the only thing Republicans really care about.
 
2012-12-18 11:03:21 AM  
Oh joy, nullification. Because it worked every other time it's come up.
 
2012-12-18 11:03:25 AM  
The comments in the article are a thing of potato.
 
2012-12-18 11:03:30 AM  
Reading that headline made me feel dirty, like I had just watched a conservative ejaculate all over his keyboard, monitor and wifebeater clad belly, and I know he ain't gonna wipe it up.
 
2012-12-18 11:03:53 AM  
*chortle*

I almost want to pat the guy on the head and tell him how cute it is that he tries so hard.
 
2012-12-18 11:04:36 AM  
Time to put some modern artillery in Fort Sumter.
 
2012-12-18 11:05:18 AM  
So they're going to start dragging in web developers for setting up and maintaining the health exchanges? The federal employees that send people their tax refunds? Oh, this ought to be funny.
 
2012-12-18 11:06:38 AM  

Citrate1007: PreMortem: UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, however, told U.S. News the proposed law "would be clearly un-enforceable, because the federal law - upheld by the Supreme Court - trumps state law."

The fact that they had to contact a specialist to get this factoid makes my faith in my countrymen bleed.


And a Libertarian, no less.
 
2012-12-18 11:07:27 AM  

hourheroyes: Reading that headline made me feel dirty, like I had just watched a conservative ejaculate all over his keyboard, monitor and wifebeater clad belly, and I know he ain't gonna wipe it up.


www.abload.de
 
2012-12-18 11:07:45 AM  

cubic_spleen: WE GET IT. HE'S BLACK

/I'll stop posting this when it stops being the only thing Republicans really care about.


Well, to be fair, they also really like Sunday night football.

Also, this will in no way backfire for SC. No, sir.
 
2012-12-18 11:10:07 AM  
Well, thankfully the commenters are telling the politicians what a dumbfark idea this is and to stop wasting their money. . .

*scrolls down to comments*


Oh dear mother of Derp.
 
2012-12-18 11:13:22 AM  
So, if they try this, we need to pull ever dollar from federal contracts out of that state. That means if a company gets any federal dollar for military or planes or whatever, they lose it. See how fast they get reelected when the voters realize. It is a long list. Link
 
2012-12-18 11:13:45 AM  
Chumley is throwing this sh*t out there to see if any special interest groups will give him money, and they will. Disgusting.
 
2012-12-18 11:14:41 AM  

Citrate1007: PreMortem: UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh, however, told U.S. News the proposed law "would be clearly un-enforceable, because the federal law - upheld by the Supreme Court - trumps state law."

The fact that they had to contact a specialist to get this factoid makes my faith in my countrymen bleed.


A CALIFORNIAN LAW PROFESSOR!!! LIBTARDS!!! BOOTSTRAPS!!! SOCIALIZMS!!!
 
2012-12-18 11:15:12 AM  
So let me see if I understand this:
Every Democrat in the state goes to State prison, every Republican in the state goes to Federal prison, and whoever is left... um, runs the prisons?
 
2012-12-18 11:16:13 AM  
"I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June...


Not doing too well at the first part, are we, bub?
 
2012-12-18 11:16:16 AM  
The derp in the article is bad enough but the derp in the comments takes it to nuclear levels ... bleh
 
2012-12-18 11:17:13 AM  
Recommended by the executive branch.
Enacted by the legislative branch.
Affirmed by the judicial branch.

That doesn't necessarily mean it's above reproach and will stand the test of time.
But trying to pass laws against its implementation at the state level is pissing in the wind.
 
2012-12-18 11:18:18 AM  

SilentStrider: How about a 20 year psychiatric treatment regimen for anyone who submits garbage like this with the hero tag?


I vote yes, but only if it includes high-voltage electric shock therapy.
 
2012-12-18 11:20:10 AM  

Serious Black: thomps: "I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June, a decision that Chumley strongly disagrees with. In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."

lulz

Unfortunately, there are people who think nullification is a real thing and worship Tom Woods like he's a deity. A lot of them.


Well, nullification is a real thing, it's just not what they think it is. Kind of like impeachment, it's something that even the people who have the power to do it don't seem to understand what it actually is or does.
 
2012-12-18 11:21:41 AM  

Serious Black: Unfortunately, there are people who think nullification is a real thing and worship Tom Woods like he's a deity. A lot of them.


Oh Nullification, the complete moron's concept of constitutional law.

Nuller: We must uphold what we believe to be constitutional!
Anyone not brain-dead: Ah so what about Article VI, Clause 2: This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof; and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land?
Nuller: ahah! But this law was not made in pursuance thereof! Therefore it is unconstitutional!
ANBD: Um the Supreme Court has said it is.
Nuller: and who says they get to decide, rather than the states?
ANBD: Article III, Clauses 1& 2: he judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court
. . .
The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority . . . .
Nuller: POTATO!!!

For more scenes like this, please see my one act play: Talking to morons about the law - a journey through Fox News.
 
2012-12-18 11:22:47 AM  
If Colorado can pass a law legalizing marijuana and it not be enforced by the federal government why can't South Carolina do the same with Obamacare? I suspect they would not get a pass like Colorado though.

In a republic we should have rule of law: the feds should either enforce the law, change it, or at least not enforce it the same way for every state.
 
2012-12-18 11:23:01 AM  

Bigdogdaddy: So, if they try this, we need to pull ever dollar from federal contracts out of that state. That means if a company gets any federal dollar for military or planes or whatever, they lose it. See how fast they get reelected when the voters realize. It is a long list. Link



Why just contracts? Pull all federal funding of any sort. No highway funds, no farm subsidies, no federal employees (FBI, DEA, ICE, air traffic controllers, etc). Social Security and Medicare are government programs, right? Maybe living in SC makes you ineligible.

South Carolina get $1.35 in federal funds for every dollar of taxes paid.
 
2012-12-18 11:23:02 AM  
Libtards need to get a clue. If we dont' stop this thing now, in a few years we'll be forced to convert to Islam and living in internment camps run by the Chinese. Or so says the head of my local militia.
 
2012-12-18 11:23:37 AM  
1) This "law" wouldn't exist if Obama looked white. Fact.

2) Why hasn't someone given this teeth by tying Obamacare participation/enforcement to federal aid to states, much in the same way that speed limits and seat belt laws were tied to federal highway funds?
 
2012-12-18 11:23:42 AM  
Next we'll have the President being impeached on the state level and then arrested if he comes through the state. This should be fun.
 
2012-12-18 11:24:04 AM  
First they derped the comments section on Fox News, and I did not speak out--
Because I did not read their articles.

Then they herped the comments section on CNN, and I did not speak out--
Because I did not read their articles.

Then they hurrred the comments section on US News and World Report, and I did not speak out--
Because I did not read their articles.

Then they herped the derp--and there was no one left to durrr the hurrrr.
 
2012-12-18 11:24:33 AM  
"I think we're within our rights to do this," Chumley explained to U.S. News. "It's an obligation, I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and protect the people."

The bill was drafted after the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the healthcare law in June


How do these morons manage to dress themselves, eat and get to work on time?
 
2012-12-18 11:24:39 AM  
In response, says Chumley, "we put a little study committee together to look at the possibility of nullification."


I propose that we put a little study committee together to determine how much the average IQ of the US would go up if South Carolina were to secede from the Union.
 
2012-12-18 11:25:00 AM  

Teufelaffe: Well, nullification is a real thing, it's just not what they think it is. Kind of like impeachment, it's something that even the people who have the power to do it don't seem to understand what it actually is or does.


Well wait - do you mean jury nullification? which is 100% a thing, but irrelevant here, or constitutional nullification which is the theory that the states, because they agreed to the constitution can decide that they feel like ignoring parts of it . Its never been a recognized legal principle, and the last time it was seriously tried, we fought a rather bloody war to show that no, the constitution doesn't work that way.
 
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