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(NewsBusters)   "A Glock pistol qualifies as an assault weapon." They all need to be confiscated   (newsbusters.org) divider line 50
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2012-12-18 07:30:23 AM  
Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?
 
2012-12-18 07:44:15 AM  

colinspooky: Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?


No, but it is true of any object used to assault someone. A baseball bat is just a baseball bat until you decide to crack someone upside his dome with it.
 
2012-12-18 07:49:40 AM  
Yeah, which is why I said "every weapon" and avoided "every object". Yay. Obvious Man strikes again
 
2012-12-18 08:09:51 AM  
I think Glocks are pieces of shiat, anyway, so I'm ok with this.
 
2012-12-18 08:12:45 AM  
I like my Glock 23. Dependable, accurate, and concealable.
 
2012-12-18 08:31:18 AM  

HST's Dead Carcass: I think Glocks are pieces of shiat, anyway, so I'm ok with this.


I had a friend I'd go shooting with who hated Glocks. He liked to call them dishwasher-safe.
 
2012-12-18 08:33:45 AM  

colinspooky: Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?


Pretty much every handgun was designed with human targets in mind. Most short shotguns as well, like coach guns.
 
2012-12-18 08:35:37 AM  
Also, Ed Schultz is a misogynistic prick and I can't believe he still has a job.
 
2012-12-18 09:30:17 AM  

colinspooky: Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?


What weapons are specifically designed to do harm and nothing else.

No one's harmed by this Glock.
 
2012-12-18 09:33:23 AM  
Why is this in FarkUs?
 
2012-12-18 09:41:49 AM  

RexTalionis: Why is this in FarkUs?


The normal pages are all overstocked with derp, so it has to go to the consignment shop of the normal pages.
 
2012-12-18 09:52:44 AM  

colinspooky: Yeah, which is why I said "every weapon" and avoided "every object". Yay. Obvious Man strikes again


A club is a weapon. In the case of baseball, it is just being re-purposed for a game.
 
2012-12-18 10:10:35 AM  

vpb: There was a Federal Assault Weapons Ban, but that expired.


Because it was silly.

The idea of an Assault Weapon is poorly defined and mostly created by people who don't know much about guns. Much like science is scoffed and pu pued by the ignorant, people who know nothing about guns get all freaked out by a banana clip.

Just because it looks like an automatic doesn't make it so. All the "assault weapons" were was a bunch of case modded hunting rifles. You could still buy a machine gun that whole time. Legally. (with proper permits and such)
 
2012-12-18 10:12:05 AM  
NewsBusters vs. Ed Shultz. If that's a not a tard fight I don't know what is.
 
2012-12-18 10:18:22 AM  

BronyMedic: Bayonets on a glock. That's rich.


Assault weapon (semi-automatic) refers primarily (but not exclusively) to firearms that possess the cosmetic features of an assault rifle (which are fully-automatic). Actually possessing the operational features, such as 'full-auto', is not required for classification as an assault weapon; merely the possession of cosmetic features is enough to warrant such classification as an assault weapon.

In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features from the following list of features:
A semi-automatic Yugoslavian M70AB2 rifle.
An Intratec TEC-DC9 with 32-round magazine; a semi-automatic pistol formerly classified as an Assault Weapon under Federal Law.

Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

Nothing about bayonets on pistols from the old law. All cosmetic stuff.
 
2012-12-18 10:19:31 AM  

doglover: Just because it looks like an automatic doesn't make it so. All the "assault weapons" were was a bunch of case modded hunting rifles. You could still buy a machine gun that whole time. Legally. (with proper permits and such)


Well, to be fair, you can only LEGALLY privately own a machine gun made before 1984, I believe, and that is already registered with the Federal Government before the transfer. I don't believe you can own modern automatic weapons legally as a private citizen even if you have the tax stamp and the FFL for it.

Plus, the background checks and scrutany to do so are a lot higher than buying a semi-automatic rifle. Chances are you're not going to be able to legally obtain one when you decide to go full retard and shoot up a school.

On the other hand, it's generally pretty easy to obtain a 100 round drum magazine, pop it into an AK knockoff or another magazine fed rifle, and spray bullets in a general direction of things you want to die as fast as you can pull the trigger.
 
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2012-12-18 10:21:54 AM  

doglover: vpb: There was a Federal Assault Weapons Ban, but that expired.

Because it was silly.

The idea of an Assault Weapon is poorly defined and mostly created by people who don't know much about guns. Much like science is scoffed and pu pued by the ignorant, people who know nothing about guns get all freaked out by a banana clip.

Just because it looks like an automatic doesn't make it so. All the "assault weapons" were was a bunch of case modded hunting rifles. You could still buy a machine gun that whole time. Legally. (with proper permits and such)


They know more about it that you do if you think that AR-15s and AK-47s are hunting rifles. The whole idea that a semi-automatic assault rifle isn't an assault rifle is NRA derp.

Maybe we should regulate them the way we do class 2 weapons.
 
2012-12-18 10:27:58 AM  

doglover: In the former U.S. law, the legal term assault weapon included certain specific semi-automatic firearm models by name (e.g., Colt AR-15, TEC-9, non-select-fire AK-47s produced by three manufacturers, and Uzis) and other semi-automatic firearms because they possess a minimum set of cosmetic features


AR-15s and AK-47s are the very definition of an assault rifle, as the AR-15 is the second generation descendant in the US (the AR-10 being the first) of the StG44, and the AK-47 is the first generation descendant of it in the Soviet Bloc.

Tec-9s capable of automatic fire and Uzis capable of the same serve no legitimate civilian use what-so-ever. They were specifically designed to be easily concealable and used to provide high volumes of fire in close-quarters combat by military or specialized law enforcement groups.
 
2012-12-18 10:37:19 AM  

MmmmBacon: I like my Glock 23. Dependable, accurate, and concealable.


I hate the Glock. It's too butt-heavy IMHO. Now the Beretta 92F/FS is a well-balanced firearm. Even the Sig Sauers are nicely balanced.
 
2012-12-18 11:56:17 AM  
Well, you could kill just as many people with a semiautomatic handgun as you can with a semiautomatic rifle. I'm not sure whose job it is to define the term "assault weapon", but I don't think calling something that has any significant meaning.
 
2012-12-18 12:00:27 PM  
Ugh. Excuse me, but they're called magazines and not clips. You probably don't even really get what guns are really about. I was into guns when you were still into knives. I'm into weaponry that you've probably never even heard of.
 
2012-12-18 12:10:08 PM  
Ed Schultz clearly misspoke. He said "assault weapon" but he meant "a scary weapon."

And by "confiscate" he meant "gun owners would voluntarily turn in."
 
2012-12-18 12:42:01 PM  
Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?
 
2012-12-18 12:46:25 PM  

Diogenes: NewsBusters vs. Ed Shultz. If that's a not a tard fight I don't know what is.


You win the potato!
 
2012-12-18 12:59:47 PM  
Cars are an assault weapon. Ban cars.
Wrenches are an assault weapon. Ban wrenches.
Your mom is an assault weapon.
 
2012-12-18 12:59:57 PM  

BronyMedic: HAH. Bayonets on a glock. That's rich.


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Can't you feel your adrenal glands pumping out extra testosterone just at the sight of this awesomeness?
 
2012-12-18 01:00:38 PM  

duffblue: Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?


Penises are assault weapons. They have their own subset of laws and offenses in the penal code.

...

*giggle*
 
2012-12-18 01:02:05 PM  

Rapmaster2000: I'm into weaponry that you've probably never even heard of.


Gun hipsters. It's come to that. :/
 
2012-12-18 01:10:25 PM  

Rapmaster2000: Ugh. Excuse me, but they're called magazines and not clips. You probably don't even really get what guns are really about. I was into guns when you were still into knives. I'm into weaponry that you've probably never even heard of.


I was into war canoes before they went mainstream.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-18 01:17:39 PM  

duffblue: Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?


No one ever did, that's just NRA derp. I think people are more worried about killing lots of people at once aspect.
 
2012-12-18 01:37:06 PM  
Well, it's a weapon and you can assault someone with it... so... I suppose that's one definition.
 
2012-12-18 01:38:33 PM  

duffblue: Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?


If that's the case, then Michael Clarke Duncan was the very definition of an assault weapon.
 
2012-12-18 01:38:57 PM  

xanadian: Rapmaster2000: I'm into weaponry that you've probably never even heard of.

Gun hipsters. It's come to that. :/


Glocks are too mainstream
 
2012-12-18 01:42:36 PM  

Snarfangel: Ed Schultz clearly misspoke. He said "assault weapon" but he meant "a scary weapon."

And by "confiscate" he meant "gun owners would voluntarily turn in without compensation."


I have corrected your statement.
 
2012-12-18 02:02:20 PM  

doglover: vpb: There was a Federal Assault Weapons Ban, but that expired.

Because it was silly.

The idea of an Assault Weapon is poorly defined and mostly created by people who don't know much about guns. Much like science is scoffed and pu pued by the ignorant, people who know nothing about guns get all freaked out by a banana clip.

Just because it looks like an automatic doesn't make it so. All the "assault weapons" were was a bunch of case modded hunting rifles. You could still buy a machine gun that whole time. Legally. (with proper permits and such)


As a Canadian I think this whole gun culture thing is ludicrous and even I thought the AWB was stupid for two reasons:

1. People already have them. What was that Ice-T said? "Try to ban the AK? I got ten of 'em stashed with a case of hand grenades"?

2. "Assault weapon" is redundant. The use of a weapon is, by definition, assaultive.

We have a pretty comprehensive list of weapons you're not allowed to have ever, and all of the firearms on that list are pretty plainy defined; e.g.,

"The firearm of the design variant known as the HK Model G11 Rifle, and any variant or modified version of it"
"A firearm of the bull-pup design shorter than length X"

...and I never saw what was wrong with just listing them out that way. Saying "Anything that looks like an AK is an assault weapon, even it it isn't, and is therefore banned" is just stupid.
 
2012-12-18 02:37:38 PM  
are you sure that isnt an ak-47?

images.cryhavok.org
 
2012-12-18 03:22:54 PM  

xanadian: Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?

Penises are assault weapons.


Mine only fits 1 of the three categories.
 
2012-12-18 03:24:14 PM  
This is going to be so awesome! We get to see all those advertisements for "Pre-Ban Extended Mags!" Now we can start paying $50 for a 25 round magazine for a 10/22 that should sell for $15.
 
2012-12-18 04:05:16 PM  
Cool! Now I can say I have an assault weapon!

/Glock 23
 
2012-12-18 05:16:44 PM  

MmmmBacon: I like my Glock 23. Dependable, accurate, and concealable.


I'll second that.

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2012-12-18 07:16:35 PM  
Even odds it was, in fact, a Glock.

crimsonaudio.net
 
2012-12-18 09:10:16 PM  

dr_blasto: HST's Dead Carcass: I think Glocks are pieces of shiat, anyway, so I'm ok with this.

I had a friend I'd go shooting with who hated Glocks. He liked to call them dishwasher-safe.


Top rack only though.
 
2012-12-19 02:37:34 AM  

dr_blasto: colinspooky: Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?

No, but it is true of any object used to assault someone. A baseball bat is just a baseball bat until you decide to crack someone upside his dome with it.


And a gun is just a paperweight until you shoot it.
 
2012-12-19 08:05:44 AM  

RexTalionis: Why is this in FarkUs?



i say that to myself with every sports piece here that should be over a few columns to the left. in Sports.
 
 
--- that said i think TFA author is a dooshbag. why even start the article with the word "Liberals". how about 'people' or 'Americans' or 'some folks'. call me kookie, there are probably some people that define themselves as Conservatives who hold the stated opinion. the internet: millions and millions of writers who suck.
 
2012-12-19 01:18:06 PM  

vpb: duffblue: Are we still defining assault weapons as big, black and scary looking?

No one ever did, that's just NRA derp. I think people are more worried about killing lots of people at once aspect.


How is NRA derp different from VPB derp?
 
2012-12-19 06:05:08 PM  
 
2012-12-19 06:12:00 PM  

slayer199: MmmmBacon: I like my Glock 23. Dependable, accurate, and concealable.

 
I hate the Glock. It's too butt-heavy IMHO. Now the Beretta 92F/FS is a well-balanced firearm. Even the Sig Sauers are nicely balanced.
 
 
I agree.  The Glocks never felt right in my hand.  The 92FS always felt perfect.  I don't like the position of the magazine release on the Sigs.  I would press it by mistake when target shooting.
 
2012-12-20 12:59:03 PM  

colinspooky: Isn't that true of every weapon of every kind if it is specifically designed to do harm?


Fists are designed to do harm. Let's ban fisting!

Wait... that came out wrong...
 
2012-12-20 01:36:17 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: BronyMedic: HAH. Bayonets on a glock. That's rich.

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Can't you feel your adrenal glands pumping out extra testosterone just at the sight of this awesomeness?


that must suck for inside-the-waistband carry
 
2012-12-20 01:38:39 PM  

Flakeloaf: I thought the AWB was stupid for two reasons:


So did I
 
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