graggor: No you cannot go out and buy a weapon if you have been hospitalized for 5 years.
Citrate1007: The American's with Disabilities Act makes restricting their 2nd Amendment rights very, very difficult.
Dr Dreidel: BECAUSE A CRAZY CRIMINAL WILL FOLLOW LAWS AMIRITE
Serious Black: Good news: being a farking moron isn't enough to be deemed "dangerous," so you can still buy a semi-automatic round and load it with 50-round magazines of hollow point bullets to destroy a horde of preschoolers if you aren't intelligent enough to tie your loafers.
Fizpez: SOME mental illness
jack21221: List of mental disordersIs subby telling me that people with anorexia or erectile dysfunction shouldn't be allowed to own guns?
sprawl15: It also turns out that if you haven't been convicted yet of a felony that you've committed, you're still allowed to buy a gun!Funny how that works.
Fubini: Question 11.f. Adjudicated Mentally Defective: A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease: (1) is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. This term shall include: (1) a finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) Those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibilityCurrently this is enforced through a form you fill out when you buy a gun, and it is a felony to lie on this form. More stringent enforcement would open a whole can of worms. Do you want to require doctors and mental health professionals to report such persons to the government? Would you feel OK with the government keeping a registry of such persons in the event they ever try to buy a gun? Does this violate doctor patient confidentiality?Also, any such measures will not prevent situations where an otherwise peaceful person suddenly becomes a violent offender, as in the case of the Aurora shooter.
Muta: Even if all states complied with NICS reporting, 40% of the purchases would fall through the cracks since 40% of gun purchases are through 'gun shows' and they don't have any reporting requirements.
Geotpf: Practically, pollitically, and constitutionally, there is no way to stop the scenario that happened in Conneticut from happening again and again. Everybody needs to deal with this fact and move on.
randomjsa: Basically we're going through the same stupid discussion we have every time"How can we stop crazy people from doing crazy things?"You can't in a free society.The fact is that lots of people have issues and never hurt anyone but once in awhile one of them wakes up a little crazier than usual and does something like this.Also stop running around going "WHY?"... We are never going to be able to answer that question even when the person doesn't kill themselves.
Geotpf: In any case, had any doctor made any finding that the shooter (or his mother) were mentally ill (or were accused of any crimes)? No? Then why are we even talking about this?
randomjsa: You can't in a free society.
log_jammin: I've been avoiding this story as much as possible due to some local events involving more dead children, and I'm really just worn out from them thinking about dead kids, but I have to ask, how did he get the weapon/s? Or do they know yet?
log_jammin: how did he get the weapon/s? Or do they know yet?
Fubini: Also, any such measures will not prevent situations where an otherwise peaceful person suddenly becomes a violent offender, as in the case of the Aurora shooter.
bulldg4life: Geotpf: Practically, pollitically, and constitutionally, there is no way to stop the scenario that happened in Conneticut from happening again and again. Everybody needs to deal with this fact and move on."every once in a while, 15-30 people are going to be murdered by someone. we need to have a free society, deal with it" is a horrible argument.
Geotpf: sprawl15: It also turns out that if you haven't been convicted yet of a felony that you've committed, you're still allowed to buy a gun!Funny how that works.Innocent until proven guilty. The constitution is a biatch.
QueenMamaBee: Fubini: Also, any such measures will not prevent situations where an otherwise peaceful person suddenly becomes a violent offender, as in the case of the Aurora shooter.Um, didn't he have a HUGE psychiatric file?
Holocaust Agnostic: Not as terrible as "You just want children to be murdered to feel better about your small penis!"
Serious Black: He stole them from his survivalist mother and murdered her with them.
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