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(The Blaze)   Have you ever looked at all those mass shootings and wondered what would happen if the shooter attempted that in Texas? Wonder no more. Tag is for the off duty sheriff that took the shot   (theblaze.com) divider line 432
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2012-12-18 05:06:34 AM
Got lucky once, have you never heard of Charles Whitman?
 
2012-12-18 05:12:15 AM
Texas must have the lowest shootings in the nation then.
 
2012-12-18 05:52:49 AM
George Hennard unavailable for comment.
 
2012-12-18 06:24:43 AM
Ffs. Preventing mass shootings happens more than just Texas. Even this particular method is used elsewhere. Had it not been for an observant officer, there could have been another tragedy.
 
2012-12-18 06:44:58 AM
Well, I for one am confident that ALL officers are as observant as this, and they never allow themselves to be distracted in any way.

Sleep tight.
 
2012-12-18 06:47:14 AM
Glad everyone was OK at the Mayan 14 movie theater, but let's not make too big a deal out of this. It's not like it was the end of the world or something.
 
2012-12-18 06:55:32 AM
It seems that this was an incident spilled over from somewhere else that led there. This wasn't someone planning on shooting up a theatre for mass casualties.
 
2012-12-18 07:08:15 AM
The shooting was prevented because the gun jammed. This would have been another mass shooting except for that
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-18 07:49:13 AM
Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.
 
2012-12-18 07:50:27 AM

JerseyTim: George Hennard unavailable for comment.

 
2012-12-18 09:18:34 AM
Yeah, as prideful of Texas as I am, I don't think we're the only state that pays trained cops poorly enough that they have to work overtime in private security jobs.
 
2012-12-18 09:18:57 AM
And not a tear was shed that day.

F*cking copycats. :/
 
2012-12-18 09:24:01 AM

vpb: Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.


Came here to say this, leaving happily. I'm pro-CCW as a gun owner, and glad I live in a state that lets people have them. But let's be realistic about CCW capabilities and the average people who have them, and not pretend that everyone who is willing to spend 40 hours in class and pop off a few rounds at a stationary target down range with no fear of being shot at back is the same as someone who has to, per COLEA standards, requalify in practical shooting with every weapon they use on the job every four months and has experience and training to deal with those situations.

And no, the fact that you know someone on your mom's uncles side who is married to another guy who was Ex-military and spends his mornings at the range participating in practical shooting events does not mean the exception overweighs the rule of how people act in a firefight.

/people who tout that CCWs can be the deciders, or who cherry pick complex crime statistics and claim it's because CCW is allowed in a state are ALMOST as annoying as the people who either think eliminating all private gun ownership in the United States is the answer, or who think they'll ever stop a dystopian US Government from imposing fascism on them.
//ALMOST.
 
2012-12-18 09:28:18 AM
they don't have off-duty sheriffs in other states?
 
2012-12-18 09:33:21 AM
Remember Luby's?
 
2012-12-18 09:34:43 AM

EnviroDude: Remember Luby's?



www.rightwingnews.com 
 
No, I don't remember Luby's.
 
2012-12-18 09:46:35 AM
All those guns didn't help David Koresh...
 
2012-12-18 09:56:46 AM
Texas: the Unique and Precious Snowflake State
 
2012-12-18 09:58:30 AM

xanadian: And not a tear was shed that day.

F*cking copycats. :/


Sounds like he was looking for someone in particular to kill, TFA just said a woman... so when he couldn't find her he decided to take it out on others.

Thrilled farker's gun jammed and off-duty deputy was there. [Trained] Hero indeed.
 
2012-12-18 10:05:39 AM

kronicfeld: All those guns didn't help David Koresh...


-snicker-

Didn't help the heroes in Warsaw during Nazi Occupation Either.

58,000-75,000 people dead or wounded on the Polish side, versus 95 to 200 on the German side, depending on what casualty statistics you take as true. (There's really little reason to doubt the Germans, though. The Nazis were obsessed with meticulous documentaion of their horrific atrocities, and in this case it's no less true. Nothing like a few hundred untrained partisans armed with hunting rifles and improvised weapons to give the Nazis a reason to go house to house with flamethrowers and incenderaries, and roast any man, woman and child they came across, AND to massively step up the deportations to the concentration camps.)

In reality, every country invaded by the Soviets or Nazis during their rush to take over mainland Europe had high rates of private firearm ownership, even Nazi Germany - the Jews of course being restricted.

The Swiss are often cited as another example of this, they weren't invaded by the Nazis because they had a high rate of private gun ownership, but the reality was that the Nazis had highly detailed invasion plans drawn up, and the only reason they did not invade was because like the Spanish, they were complacient in assisting the Germans in hiding their bad behavior.
 
2012-12-18 10:06:44 AM

BronyMedic: vpb: Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.

Came here to say this, leaving happily. I'm pro-CCW as a gun owner, and glad I live in a state that lets people have them. But let's be realistic about CCW capabilities and the average people who have them, and not pretend that everyone who is willing to spend 40 hours in class and pop off a few rounds at a stationary target down range with no fear of being shot at back is the same as someone who has to, per COLEA standards, requalify in practical shooting with every weapon they use on the job every four months and has experience and training to deal with those situations.

And no, the fact that you know someone on your mom's uncles side who is married to another guy who was Ex-military and spends his mornings at the range participating in practical shooting events does not mean the exception overweighs the rule of how people act in a firefight.

/people who tout that CCWs can be the deciders, or who cherry pick complex crime statistics and claim it's because CCW is allowed in a state are ALMOST as annoying as the people who either think eliminating all private gun ownership in the United States is the answer, or who think they'll ever stop a dystopian US Government from imposing fascism on them.
//ALMOST.


and even then under the stress of combat, cops who train for precisely that situation constantly, still can rarely hit the broad side of a barn once the adrenaline is flowing. There was a cop shooting in Cleveland just a few days ago where officers shot the occupants of a fleeing car 24 times. Which seems like a lot until you realize they fired 137 bullets at the vehicle. In other words less than 1 bullet in 5 actually hit its intended taget and there were 113 stray rounds flying through the air the posed a danger to any innocent bystanders nearby. And that's shooting someone who is fleeing, not someone shooting back.

If that's the best trained cops can manage, I wonder why the average CCW guy thinks he'll be able to do anything but pee himself in a real life situation-and that's IF they correctly manage to assess the scene. FOlks should read the story of the guy who was carrying who heard the shot coming from the scene of the Gabby Giffords shooting. He drew his weapon, and arrived on the scene to see a bunch of people shot and bleeding and a bloody man with a gun standing over another man screaming "I'm going to kill you, you son of a biatch!"

Fortunately the armed citizen kept his head and did not fire, because if he had, he would have killed the man who wrestled the gun away from Loughner.
 
2012-12-18 10:15:42 AM

BronyMedic: vpb: Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.

Came here to say this, leaving happily. I'm pro-CCW as a gun owner, and glad I live in a state that lets people have them. But let's be realistic about CCW capabilities and the average people who have them, and not pretend that everyone who is willing to spend 40 hours in class and pop off a few rounds at a stationary target down range with no fear of being shot at back is the same as someone who has to, per COLEA standards, requalify in practical shooting with every weapon they use on the job every four months and has experience and training to deal with those situations.


Exactly. I have my CCP and a handgun that I only carry with me when I know my stalker is in town. Which begets the only reason why I have a CCP in the first place. If I were carrying and some mass shooting situation were to present itself I know I am not trained to the point of cherry picking off the culprit with innocents running around. One on one with a psycho in a dark alley, that I can handle.
 
2012-12-18 10:59:26 AM
Im a Deputy with the same department as the officer in the story. She is a good person and well respected. The fact she capped the guy only added "badass" to her list of accolades.

/Dont fark with Bexar County Sheriff's deputies.
 
2012-12-18 11:07:17 AM
Jesus works in mysterious ways.
 
2012-12-18 11:09:01 AM
It's like the wild west in the states these days.

My official prognosis is that you are all nuts.
 
2012-12-18 11:09:22 AM
begun, this flame war has
 
2012-12-18 11:09:58 AM
And if his weapon didn't jam, he would have started shooting, and the sheriff would have shot him and several others would have shot the sheriff and eachother the circular firing squad would be complete.
 
2012-12-18 11:10:25 AM
I've never heard of gun violence in texas, for an armed society is a polite society.
 
2012-12-18 11:10:27 AM
I'M GETTIN THE POPCORN

/pulls up a chair
 
2012-12-18 11:10:33 AM

BronyMedic: vpb: Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.

Came here to say this, leaving happily. I'm pro-CCW as a gun owner, and glad I live in a state that lets people have them. But let's be realistic about CCW capabilities and the average people who have them, and not pretend that everyone who is willing to spend 40 hours in class and pop off a few rounds at a stationary target down range with no fear of being shot at back is the same as someone who has to, per COLEA standards, requalify in practical shooting with every weapon they use on the job every four months and has experience and training to deal with those situations.

And no, the fact that you know someone on your mom's uncles side who is married to another guy who was Ex-military and spends his mornings at the range participating in practical shooting events does not mean the exception overweighs the rule of how people act in a firefight.

/people who tout that CCWs can be the deciders, or who cherry pick complex crime statistics and claim it's because CCW is allowed in a state are ALMOST as annoying as the people who either think eliminating all private gun ownership in the United States is the answer, or who think they'll ever stop a dystopian US Government from imposing fascism on them.
//ALMOST.


40 hours? Here in Texas it takes a whole 8 hours and a 50 round test to get your CCW.
 
2012-12-18 11:10:59 AM
ladies and gentlemen, take my advice
pull down your pants, and slide on the ice
 
2012-12-18 11:11:09 AM
Nationwide average police response time - 7/10 minutes

Newtown police response time - 20 minutes

Average response time of one public citizen with a 1911 .45?

1,200 feet per second.
 
2012-12-18 11:11:33 AM
I love how FARK is turning this into a bad thing.
 
2012-12-18 11:11:49 AM
Where is Fort Hood, anyway?
 
2012-12-18 11:11:49 AM
an off-duty sheriff's deputy working security the theater shot him once, dropping him to the floor

I think I have found the difference between this reality and the average ITG, COD-fueled personal fantasy.
 
2012-12-18 11:12:10 AM
With one shot, an off-duty sheriff's deputy took down a gunman who attempted to opened fire at a crowded movie theater

When the woman, also reportedly a restaurant employee, wasn't there, Garcia pulled out a gun and attempted to open fire in the restaurant

The commotion sent horrified restaurant patrons into the movie theater lobby, but the gunman followed. He again attempted to open fire


Sounds like the journalist has attempted to open thesaurus, but failed.
 
2012-12-18 11:12:24 AM
Well I'm convinced. GUNS AND TANKS FOR EVERYONE!
 
2012-12-18 11:12:31 AM

Magorn: Fortunately the armed citizen kept his head and did not fire, because if he had, he would have killed the man who wrestled the gun away from Loughner.


I call bullshiat. Everyone knows that when citizens pull out their concealed weapons to stop a criminal, it's always crystal clear to everybody which armed person is the bad guy and which other gunmen are the ones stopping him.
 
2012-12-18 11:12:39 AM
Lesson:

Don't buy guns in Texas. They jam and are shiat .
 
2012-12-18 11:12:55 AM

MDGeist: I love how FARK is turning this into a bad thing.


Where?
 
2012-12-18 11:13:06 AM
Is there a picture with the cop standing with his foot on the perp's chest?
 
2012-12-18 11:13:08 AM
So armed security guards everywhere?
 
2012-12-18 11:13:26 AM
Anyone mention that the reason there wasn't a mass killing was because the gun jammed?
 
2012-12-18 11:14:07 AM
www.nndb.com
 
2012-12-18 11:14:08 AM
Texans shot Jesus? Not really surprising.
 
2012-12-18 11:14:16 AM
patriotstatesman.com

...disagrees
 
2012-12-18 11:14:27 AM
He was off duty, but in his patrol car (coming to or from work). The point subby attempted to make about private armed citizens protecting us from this is invalid........this was a cop only minutes from clocking out.
 
2012-12-18 11:14:41 AM
the Mayan theater?

i think the security guard should be rewarded doubly for PREVENTING THE MAYAN APOCALYPSE
 
2012-12-18 11:14:48 AM
BUT BUT BUT if everyone is armed, then EVERYONE will get shot!!!!
 
2012-12-18 11:14:57 AM

vpb: Yes, it's fortunate that a trained law enforcement officer was there and not some nut with a Rambo fantasy.


YUP. This wasn't just a random guy, it was a professional cop who saved the day here.
 
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