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2012-12-18 12:06:21 AM
Packing things with obscene amounts of sugar and salt just doesn't do it for me anymore.
 
2012-12-18 12:30:58 AM
The longer you go without caffeine, the less you miss it. I haven't had any caffeine via coffee or soda for months. I feel great, and I sleep much better.

Feeling wired all the time isn't pleasant. It may be nice once in a while, but caffeine dependency is a futile effort in chasing the dragon. Unless you can return your body to its pre-addiction state, each dose supplies a diminishing return.

Better to be clean, IMO.
 
2012-12-18 01:02:14 AM
mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.
 
2012-12-18 01:27:54 AM

SpaceyCat: mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.


At least caffeine helps with bowel movement, though. Morphine shuts that shiat down better than Kaopectate.
 
2012-12-18 01:34:58 AM

SpaceyCat: mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.


THIS!

At various times in my life, I've quit caffeine, nicotene, heroin, meth, alcohol, and xanax, and I must say - there is nothing like a little meth in your Irish coffee after a cigarette.
 
2012-12-18 02:19:47 AM
As an alkie who''s fallen off the wagon again, I'm getting a kick..

/also the shakes
 
2012-12-18 02:20:33 AM
Where's my baconated grapefruit?

And my ADMIRAL Crunch!
 
2012-12-18 02:22:22 AM
FTA: "I think at a minimum the FDA should require the amount of caffeine to be disclosed on product labels," says Jacobson.

Gonna have to agree with that.
 
2012-12-18 02:27:28 AM
I'm so glad I cut caffeine out of my diet before this whole energy drink/shot/pill/food craze started... saving me a lot of money and sleepless nights.

/almost 12 years, caffeine-free
//not Mormon, just a migraine sufferer
 
2012-12-18 02:27:40 AM
I was listening to this report on All Things Considered today.

After working in early morning shifts for the past 3 months leading up to christmas (getting up at 4am compared to 6:30 once you count Daylight Savings and finishing 2 hours later) I was going through 160mg of caffiene 5 mornings a week and usually another 160mg within 5 hours, not counting if I had any other soft-drink during the day.

Now I'm trying to switch back to having a single can of diet coke when I start and with my lunch (34mg in each can) and my eyes are rolling in the back of my head while i'm standing, and I need to be careful not to nod off while sitting at my desk.
 
2012-12-18 02:28:14 AM
Tiramisu.



/non-alcoholic of course.
 
2012-12-18 02:29:17 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The longer you go without caffeine, the less you miss it. I haven't had any caffeine via coffee or soda for months. I feel great, and I sleep much better.

Feeling wired all the time isn't pleasant. It may be nice once in a while, but caffeine dependency is a futile effort in chasing the dragon. Unless you can return your body to its pre-addiction state, each dose supplies a diminishing return.

Better to be clean, IMO.


Yeah I'm actually trying to give up caffeine. I gave up soda entirely last year but I replaced it with bottled water(good) and LOTS of tea (not as good due to caffeine).
 
2012-12-18 02:37:44 AM
Worst Terminator sequel ever
 
2012-12-18 02:37:51 AM
i.imgur.com

Picked a bad day to quit eating guayusa leaves.
 
2012-12-18 02:42:29 AM
Maybe if people didn't have such shiatty diets they wouldn't have to chug coffee and energy drinks to get them through the day.
 
2012-12-18 02:48:28 AM
Correlation with mass shootings?
 
2012-12-18 02:50:27 AM
"Guarana" is the interesting scam in energy drinks.

Guarana is a different plant than coffee beans, but it's got caffeine in it, in fact, TWICE the caffeine of coffee beans.

So if you look at ingredients, you may say "hey, wow, this 'energy drink' isn't just sugar and caffeine! It doesn't have caffeine listed in the ingredients (or it's way low on the list). It must all be vitamins and amino acids and 'lectrolytes and shiat!"

But no- guarana is caffeine, by another name. In fact it seems the entire point of using guarana is to deceive people. Pure caffeine is readily available dirt cheap, it's what they extract when making decaffeinated coffee. Guarana's caffeine is chemically identical to any other caffeine, and it has no other known substances of pharmaceutical or nutritional significance.
 
2012-12-18 02:52:01 AM
Get. Your. Ass. Some. Farking. SLEEP!!!!
.
THEN you won't need caffeine.
 
2012-12-18 02:52:36 AM
Drinking 1 or 2 cups of coffee or tea a day is perfectly fine, in fact its good for you.
 
2012-12-18 02:53:27 AM

SpaceyCat: mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.


I've found it's only mildly addictive to me. I've ever been addicted to opiates, but I'd much rather quit caffeine than quit booze or nicotine.
 
2012-12-18 02:56:05 AM

Colin O'Scopy: Get. Your. Ass. Some. Farking. SLEEP!!!!
.
THEN you won't need caffeine.


The biggest reason we need caffeine... is that we use caffeine. Our bodies adjust to this. Eventually can not reach the level you started from without. And perhaps even with it you cannot. Like all drugs, caffeine is the devil's bargain.

That is why I am trying to quit entirely til my body can readjust back to where it should be.
 
2012-12-18 02:59:16 AM

david_gaithersburg: Correlation with mass shootings?


Get between me and my coffee and find out.
 
2012-12-18 03:07:17 AM

Happy Hours: SpaceyCat: mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.

I've found it's only mildly addictive to me. I've ever been addicted to opiates, but I'd much rather quit caffeine than quit booze or nicotine.


I still am addicted to opiates. Energy drinks are nothing to quite compared to pills. Or H for that matter
 
2012-12-18 03:09:13 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: The longer you go without caffeine, the less you miss it. I haven't had any caffeine via coffee or soda for months. I feel great, and I sleep much better.

Feeling wired all the time isn't pleasant. It may be nice once in a while, but caffeine dependency is a futile effort in chasing the dragon. Unless you can return your body to its pre-addiction state, each dose supplies a diminishing return.

Better to be clean, IMO.


I've drank two cups of coffee every morning for my whole life, it wakes me up and gets me going just as much now as it did 30 years ago.

I think what gets people feeling run down is poor sleeping habits, you cant deprive your body of sleep and expect caffeine to get you through the day, that might work once in a while, but your body needs regular sleep to function properly on the long term.
 
2012-12-18 03:09:53 AM
I have cut down on my intake of caffeine down to two cups of coffee a day. I'll never quit caffeine all together. Too much of a wimp when it come down to headaches.
 
2012-12-18 03:13:11 AM

bk3k: Yeah I'm actually trying to give up caffeine. I gave up soda entirely last year but I replaced it with bottled water(good) and LOTS of tea (not as good due to caffeine).


Also, while tea won't give your teeth cavities like soda, it'll stain 'em just as bad as a cigarette. I'm considering buying an over the counter whitener for just that reason.
 
2012-12-18 03:22:46 AM

foxyshadis: bk3k: Yeah I'm actually trying to give up caffeine. I gave up soda entirely last year but I replaced it with bottled water(good) and LOTS of tea (not as good due to caffeine).

Also, while tea won't give your teeth cavities like soda, it'll stain 'em just as bad as a cigarette. I'm considering buying an over the counter whitener for just that reason.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-18 03:27:55 AM
Well, I was trying to quit the caffeine...just realized I had an americano today. Crap. The 30-minute rush I get from the caffeine is not worth the immediate and longer-lasting crash. I can't recover from it with more coffee like I used to.
 
2012-12-18 03:32:30 AM
www.operatorchan.org
 
2012-12-18 03:44:30 AM
Penquin caffeinated cinnamon "mints" ROCK
 
2012-12-18 03:48:19 AM
I'm still suffering the after effects of finally quitting Mountain Dew Code Red. It's been like 6 years and I still get the shakes. I mean, that's probably why I pee red, right?
 
2012-12-18 03:52:54 AM

the_colors: Well, I was trying to quit the caffeine...just realized I had an americano today. Crap. The 30-minute rush I get from the caffeine is not worth the immediate and longer-lasting crash. I can't recover from it with more coffee like I used to.


I think the reason some people have such a large problem with that is that they drink too much at one time. Bigger spike, farther fall. People fail here by drinking caffeinated beverages in place of water when thirsty.

The trick is to maintain with more frequent drinking, but vastly smaller amounts. To help save your teeth if you're drinking it in a sugary form, drink water in between. (The sugar is what the bacteria eat and turn into acid).

If you do it right, you don't get a "rush", but a steady alertness, and your sleep is not interrupted. YMMV of course, some people are much more sensitive to it than others. Some really just can't handle it at all. I've a sister that's super sensitive to anything that alters your metabolism in such ways. Eats a bit of sugar(Ie part of a chocolate bar) and flies through the roof.


ReapTheChaos: I think what gets people feeling run down is poor sleeping habits, you cant deprive your body of sleep and expect caffeine to get you through the day, that might work once in a while, but your body needs regular sleep to function properly on the long term.


THIS!
8 hours for most people. A lot of people brag about how they only need 6, but have obvious issues. They're conditioned to cope but are not operating at optimum.

The older I get the more I feel the difference an hour or two can make.

Another factor is when you sleep. I am a night owl and cannot stand working day shift, for example. in order to cope for an 8-5 job, I tend to have to get up 2-3 hours before work. If I leave it at 1, ALL day feels like it drags. If I give myself that much time to get up, wake up, and prepare for the day, I'm pleasantly tired towards the end of it.

Yet another factor is what people do with their off time, during the week AND weekends. If you're a person who's very active and just HAS to fill every waking hour with work in one form or another, you're going to feel run down eventually(or end up just cracking). Take some time to relax and be lazy.
 
2012-12-18 04:02:45 AM
Caffeinated maple syrup? It's like soda water in a 40 year old malt scotch! Why not throw some nicotine in as well?
 
2012-12-18 04:08:25 AM

Old enough to know better: Maybe if people didn't have such shiatty diets they wouldn't have to chug coffee and energy drinks to get them through the day.


I blame cube farms.

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-12-18 04:09:33 AM

Pointy Tail of Satan: Caffeinated maple syrup? It's like soda water in a 40 year old malt scotch! Why not throw some nicotine in as well?


Because it would be awesome and then banned.
 
2012-12-18 04:22:34 AM
Do energy drinks in the US contain nicotine? That's something I noticed here in Japan.
 
2012-12-18 04:30:55 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: Do energy drinks in the US contain nicotine? That's something I noticed here in Japan.


I haven't seen any but it's easy enough to get unflavored or flavored E-liquid.
 
2012-12-18 04:33:29 AM
I would just like to point out that NONE of those items pictured were actually 'food'.
 
2012-12-18 05:54:01 AM
My company has a nurses office where there's a cabinet full of random packets of drugs for headaches, stomach issues, etc.

Every single kind of medicine contains caffeine. A *lot* of caffeine.
 
2012-12-18 06:23:37 AM
People don't understand that every last one of these items is part of a very well thought out scheme to get more out of you as humans and workers. They charge you obscene amounts of money to buy these things so you can keep going long enough to make more money for your handlers. Sad, really.
 
2012-12-18 06:30:45 AM

omeganuepsilon: THIS!
8 hours for most people. A lot of people brag about how they only need 6, but have obvious issues. They're conditioned to cope but are not operating at optimum.
The older I get the more I feel the difference an hour or two can make.


I don't get the bragging about how much sleep you (don't) need. I need 8 hours. That's per day. I can go a day or two with less, but it will catch up with me. And I like to sleep--I like it just fine. Some people need less sleep than that. But most people need 8 hours or so, and some need more.

You aren't proving anything to anyone by not getting enough sleep. All you're doing is feeling like crap, probably shortening your life, and bragging about something that nobody gives a fark about anyway. And all that caffeine you're mainlining so you can feel even more like crap--bleh. Too much caffeine makes me sick. And if I drink a bunch of caffeine to make up for no sleep, I can't even keep it down. My body rejects it, and I have to pass out anyway.
 
2012-12-18 06:33:11 AM
www.fark.com###abPleaBar
 
2012-12-18 06:46:48 AM
I found quitting cigarettes to be much easier than quitting caffeine. Cigarettes just gave me cravings which I managed. For all you smokers out there, it's hard, but the cravings have a half life. They'll get lesser and lesser the longer you can hold out. And one day you will be free.

Caffeine on the other hand... I've tried a few times. It starts as an unquenchable thirst. I'll drink glass after glass of water and still be "thirsty." Then come the headaches. Migraines, actually. There goes my whole day... I've tried to wean myself off by decreasing my daily dosage, but so far I've had trouble sticking with it. I need to strengthen my discipline.
 
2012-12-18 07:10:43 AM

Oznog: Where's my baconated grapefruit?

And my ADMIRAL Crunch!


Things seem in order in this thread. Thanks for taking care of this.
 
2012-12-18 07:12:47 AM
www.ostfront.com

Old news is so exciting.
 
2012-12-18 07:15:46 AM

Oznog: "Guarana" is the interesting scam in energy drinks.

Guarana is a different plant than coffee beans, but it's got caffeine in it, in fact, TWICE the caffeine of coffee beans.

So if you look at ingredients, you may say "hey, wow, this 'energy drink' isn't just sugar and caffeine! It doesn't have caffeine listed in the ingredients (or it's way low on the list). It must all be vitamins and amino acids and 'lectrolytes and shiat!"

But no- guarana is caffeine, by another name. In fact it seems the entire point of using guarana is to deceive people. Pure caffeine is readily available dirt cheap, it's what they extract when making decaffeinated coffee. Guarana's caffeine is chemically identical to any other caffeine, and it has no other known substances of pharmaceutical or nutritional significance.


And the companies who put it in their drinks are either a) confused or b) liars. I once contacted a beverage company after an 'enhanced water' with guarana had hopped me up pretty thoroughly [in part, because I don't drink caffeine often] to ask about how much caffeine was in it, since 10 s of Googling had gotten me the information that guarana is a source of caffeine. I was told there was no caffeine.
 
2012-12-18 07:43:34 AM
"The Rise"

Most of the things I saw in that picture have been around for 10+ years. The Rise, at the moment, indeed.
 
2012-12-18 08:27:27 AM
I'd just like to know when (and more importantly WHY??) companies have started adding Sucralose to *regular* hot cocoa mix. Not "lite"... not "diet"... not "reduced sugar"... REGULAR cocoa mix. WTF?

I bought some so-called Nestle "Rich Milk Chocolate" cocoa mix the other day and noticed it tasted like shiate at the first sip. I tasted it again. Still tasted like shiate.

No Splenda logo on the box, nothing of that sort, but that fake-sweet bitter lingering aftertaste was what I was getting.

I looked at the list of ingredients and... there it was, way down at the bottom of the list: Sucralose.

WHY?? It's not supposed to be "reduced-calorie cocoa"! I'll take the calories ... just give me the flavor that goes with it!

Bastards. Never buying cocoa mix again that doesn't say "organic" on the label.

/And don't tell me to make it the old-fashioned way with milk in a pan -- have never liked cocoa that way and never will...not sure why... (shrug)
 
2012-12-18 08:58:35 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: SpaceyCat: mildly addictive stimulant

Some who've gone through caffeine withdrawal would not call it "mildly" addicting. I'd rather go through morphine withdrawal than caffeine withdrawal.

At least caffeine helps with bowel movement, though. Morphine shuts that shiat down better than Kaopectate.


One of the side effects of too much caffeine is constipation, so it doesn't help with bowel movements. Rather, your bowel shuts down when you sleep. So you wake up, you have your morning cup of joe and the bowel understands it's about time to do its thing. Also, you mind has associated morning coffee with having a bowel movement and runs a program.

The FDA needs crack down on this stupidity. Excess caffeine can cause cardiac arrhythmias, especially in those who are predisposed to it. Allowing food manufactures to add a stimulant to food is dangerous. What's the freaking point anyway? There are many ways to get some caffeine when you want it.
 
2012-12-18 09:07:51 AM
FTFA: "I think it's a real concern to add a mildly addictive stimulant drug to all kinds of things"

Big deal. We already add entirely unnecessary amounts of HFCS, hormones, antibiotics, too much salt, etc. What's the difference at this point. At least some of us can get a bit of a buzz alongside our heart disease, obesity, & increased immunodeficiency.
 
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