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2012-12-17 09:09:53 PM
So this is what elementary schools nationwide have to expect from now on. How unfortunate. :(
 
2012-12-17 09:12:48 PM
ha and we thought the last generation was growing up paranoid
 
2012-12-17 09:21:49 PM
I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

ecx.images-amazon.com

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.
 
2012-12-17 09:22:01 PM

Confabulat: ha and we thought the last generation was growing up paranoid


this is what we get for letting the generation that grew up hiding under their desks from nuclear attacks have children.
 
2012-12-17 09:39:48 PM

SilentStrider: Confabulat: ha and we thought the last generation was growing up paranoid

this is what we get for letting the generation that grew up hiding under their desks from nuclear attacks have children.


Hey... we were kids

/and that damned turtle seemed so sincere about our safety
 
2012-12-17 09:43:02 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-17 09:46:15 PM
Ah, the new "normal" as they're wont to say...
 
2012-12-17 10:02:13 PM

fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.


Toy guns, hell! We had a BB gun that was a *very* realistic metal replica of a Colt 1911 that we kept in our club room, which, once found when reported by a nosy coed, resulted in us getting a very stern talking to.
 
2012-12-17 10:21:43 PM
"Put your hands over your head. Do you have anything in your pockets that's Sharpie?"
 
2012-12-17 10:40:28 PM
Or was he just happy to see his teacher?
 
2012-12-17 10:56:53 PM
When markers are outlawed, only outlaws will watch picture pages!

www.themenacingkitten.com
 
2012-12-17 11:01:22 PM

fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.


Today you'd be lucky if you were ONLY shot 15 or 20 times.
 
2012-12-17 11:06:19 PM

spqr_ca: Ah, the new "normal" as they're wont to say...


We simply can't take chances anymore!!
 
2012-12-17 11:07:47 PM

Dead for Tax Reasons: When markers are outlawed, only outlaws will watch picture pages!

[www.themenacingkitten.com image 300x225]


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-17 11:09:28 PM
Will they start profiling female Mexican students?
 
2012-12-17 11:09:44 PM
I remember a time when the local high school had a rifle team and their practice range was in the basement of the school.

/CSB and GOML in one post
//A few more years on fark and you will be able to do it too
///Now bring me my oatmeal dammit!
 
2012-12-17 11:11:28 PM
Anyone need a babby wipe for the massive national butthurt?
 
2012-12-17 11:11:49 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Will they start profiling female Mexican students?


Why? They know what THEY'RE using Sharpies for.
 
2012-12-17 11:17:32 PM
Somebody looked in a bag, saw a marker, and thought GUN! Then she yelled "GUNNNNNN!!!!"
Find out who she is and make sure she never works with kids again.
 
2012-12-17 11:18:33 PM
remember when inhaling the magic marker fume would get you lightly wonky? remember the magic markers that had fruit smells?
 
2012-12-17 11:18:57 PM
President Obama to lead the nation in mourning the formerly pristine classroom desks; Bloomberg decries "First Amendment extremists", urges us to "think of the children".
 
2012-12-17 11:20:13 PM
Was the magic marker loaded?
 
2012-12-17 11:20:33 PM
11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.
 
2012-12-17 11:20:43 PM
Just imagine what would have happened if he managed to use it to write a scroll of genocide.

Tragedy averted.
 
2012-12-17 11:22:25 PM

Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.



You're kidding, right?
 
2012-12-17 11:22:27 PM
I dunno, in middle school we actually got to use fake rifles in a play.

To be fair, if you were messing around with them during school hours, you'd probably get in trouble.
 
2012-12-17 11:22:37 PM
What calibre color was the magic marker?
 
2012-12-17 11:24:07 PM
♫ Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away ♫
 
2012-12-17 11:25:28 PM

Bucky Katt: What calibre color was the magic marker?


There are different "calibres" of magic markers too.

s7.orientaltrading.com

www.independentliving.com
 
2012-12-17 11:25:30 PM
Was the magic marker's safety cap on?
 
2012-12-17 11:26:30 PM

illannoyin:
///Now bring me my oatmeal dammit!



Hold yer horses old man, I still gotta run it through the blender.
 
2012-12-17 11:27:04 PM

Twitch Boy: Just imagine what would have happened if he managed to use it to write a scroll of genocide.

Tragedy averted.


You magnificent bastard, you beat me to it.
 
2012-12-17 11:27:17 PM
Was the magic marker sold by a licensed dealer?
 
2012-12-17 11:27:27 PM
Magic markers have no place in school. Our children deserve science markers.

And that goes double for you, Harry Potter. Don't even get me started on your "magic" broom.
 
2012-12-17 11:29:21 PM
If only someone else had been there with a marker too. The whole thing could have been averted.
 
2012-12-17 11:31:10 PM

Gyrfalcon: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Will they start profiling female Mexican students?

Why? They know what THEY'RE using Sharpies for.


Haven't you ever heard of zero tolerance?
 
2012-12-17 11:31:25 PM

Snarfangel: Magic markers have no place in school. Our children deserve science markers.

And that goes double for you, Harry Potter. Don't even get me started on your "magic" broom.


and you can easy overdose on highlighters!
 
2012-12-17 11:32:00 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Gyrfalcon: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Will they start profiling female Mexican students?

Why? They know what THEY'RE using Sharpies for.

Haven't you ever heard of zero tolerance?


we need comprehensive sharpie reform.
 
2012-12-17 11:32:42 PM

Bucky Katt: Snarfangel: Magic markers have no place in school. Our children deserve science markers.

And that goes double for you, Harry Potter. Don't even get me started on your "magic" broom.

and you can easy overdose on highlighters!


easily too
 
2012-12-17 11:32:47 PM
Let me guess, these are the people with whom we're expected to discuss "reasonable" gun control.
 
2012-12-17 11:36:29 PM
To be fair, those things can be kinda Sharpie.
 
2012-12-17 11:38:42 PM
This is the kind of thing that follows every high-profile school shooting. Remember when they were banning trench coats after Columbine?
 
2012-12-17 11:39:12 PM

Bucky Katt: Snarfangel: Magic markers have no place in school. Our children deserve science markers.

And that goes double for you, Harry Potter. Don't even get me started on your "magic" broom.

and you can easy overdose on highlighters!


Especially those ones with the assorted fruit scents.
 
2012-12-17 11:40:39 PM

Fart_Machine: This is the kind of thing that follows every high-profile school shooting. Remember when they were banning trench coats after Columbine?


That was a reasonable precaution. Reasonable.
 
2012-12-17 11:42:49 PM

Gyrfalcon: Bucky Katt: Snarfangel: Magic markers have no place in school. Our children deserve science markers.

And that goes double for you, Harry Potter. Don't even get me started on your "magic" broom.

and you can easy overdose on highlighters!

Especially those ones with the assorted fruit scents.


3.bp.blogspot.com 

It's a gateway drug to this...

vanfullofcandy.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-17 11:43:13 PM
Great, now they will want to ban high capacity boxes of crayola.blog.pennlive.com

There is no reason for any american to carry more than 8 crayons.... Because when the founding fathers were talking about freedom of speech, they only meant with ink quill pens.
 
2012-12-17 11:43:35 PM
Student: "Wait. You mean I could potentially shut down the school just by carrying a popsicle stick and a clothespin? Oh hell yes!"


Man the public school system is boned.
 
2012-12-17 11:44:03 PM
This her???

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-17 11:50:32 PM

Twitch Boy: Just imagine what would have happened if he managed to use it to write a scroll of genocide.

Tragedy averted.



|----------|
|....@.....|
|..c..c..c.|
|-----.----|


Better hurry
 
2012-12-17 11:53:34 PM

Human Dude: If only someone else had been there with a marker too dauber. The whole thing could have been averted.

 



Bigger is better.
 
2012-12-18 12:02:51 AM
Bueno? Buena!

Link
 
2012-12-18 12:03:16 AM
Something smells rotten here. There has to be more to the story. I can't imagine how anyone can mistake a magic marker for a weapon, however, I can imagine a kid starting a story about another kid he would like to prank.

Bad deal all the way around.
 
2012-12-18 12:05:27 AM
Well, it was a MAGIC marker. What happens if he draws a revolver? If cartoons have taught me anything it is that anything you draw becomes real. Of course, it's also true that if the bad guy draws or paints anything, it will backfire on him badly, but hey, the police have to protect the bad guys against themselves unless they are black males or cats.
 
2012-12-18 12:07:10 AM

SilentStrider: Confabulat: ha and we thought the last generation was growing up paranoid

this is what we get for letting the generation that grew up hiding under their desks from nuclear attacks have children.


just think what the next generation has in store for us
 
2012-12-18 12:07:47 AM
Bring on the rash of knee-jerk reactions.

Its no different than what farkloads of politicians are doing in congress right now...
 
2012-12-18 12:08:08 AM
Was it a magnum 44?
www.apluswhs.com
 
2012-12-18 12:11:48 AM

Fart_Machine: This is the kind of thing that follows every high-profile school shooting. Remember when they were banning trench coats after Columbine?



LOL!

Read that as "French Toast".

/Should be banned
//Moar beer!
///Uuuurp!

////And don't go cheap on the syrup - mmmkay! 
/ Sweet
 
2012-12-18 12:12:32 AM

MrDon: Something smells rotten here. There has to be more to the story. I can't imagine how anyone can mistake a magic marker for a weapon, however, I can imagine a kid starting a story about another kid he would like to prank.

Bad deal all the way around.


Duh.
 
2012-12-18 12:14:34 AM
The article just said it was a marker. It didn't say Magic Marker, Sharpie, or any other type. For all we know, it could've been a highlighter.
 
2012-12-18 12:14:53 AM

SmithHiller: Was it a magnum 44?
[www.apluswhs.com image 238x238]


ooooh, magic marker pr0n!
 
2012-12-18 12:16:37 AM
In all fairness, he might have used it to draw a picture of a (*whispers) G - U - N.
 
2012-12-18 12:17:32 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Will they start profiling female Mexican students?



Has one of your students been siphoning gasoline with a black rubber hose???


i.cdn.turner.com

/Save a life
//Know the signs 
/// A PSA from the Project for a siphon-free America
 
2012-12-18 12:18:35 AM
I guess the kid needs to work on his...

[takes off sunglasses]

markersmanship.

Ye..know the rest.
 
2012-12-18 12:20:21 AM
The marker may be gone, but they'll never dry erase away the mark it left on the school.
 
2012-12-18 12:27:44 AM
Back when dinosaurs walked the earth I crushed a small glass tube "stink bomb" at the end of my grade 8 science class which obligated the following class to evacuate the room due to the overpowering stench. Hilarious 14-year-old humor.

Would that be a terrorist act now?
 
2012-12-18 12:34:06 AM

Dead for Tax Reasons: When markers are outlawed, only outlaws will watch picture pages!

[www.themenacingkitten.com image 300x225]


Next they'll be outlawing those crayons and those pencils.
 
2012-12-18 12:34:46 AM
Anybody tell me why these are still legal?

s7d5.scene7.com

Anybody? I just don't understand why anyone would need this. There is no legitimate purpose for something so obscene.
 
2012-12-18 12:36:26 AM

Strongbeerrules: Back when dinosaurs walked the earth I crushed a small glass tube "stink bomb" at the end of my grade 8 science class which obligated the following class to evacuate the room due to the overpowering stench. Hilarious 14-year-old humor.

Would that be a terrorist act now?


I dunno, but if one more crotchfruit drops one of those in the store I work at, I could very well be charged with one for my desired response.
 
2012-12-18 12:38:06 AM

Strongbeerrules: Back when dinosaurs walked the earth I crushed a small glass tube "stink bomb" at the end of my grade 8 science class which obligated the following class to evacuate the room due to the overpowering stench. Hilarious 14-year-old humor.

Would that be a terrorist act now?


Saying the words would be.
 
2012-12-18 12:46:49 AM

fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.


Toy guns were always the best in the 70s and 80s. Made from metal, no crappy orange markings, and they handle caps just fine. Kids today can't get good stuff.
 
2012-12-18 12:47:48 AM

Fart_Machine: This is the kind of thing that follows every high-profile school shooting. Remember when they were banning trench coats after Columbine?


That was annoying. Not because they were banning trench coats, but because there were so many dipshiats that decided that was the precise moment to start wearing them in droves. My revulsion over those coats were the reason it took me over a decade to sit down and watch The Matrix.

/I realize I'm probably biatching to the wrong crowd here...
 
2012-12-18 12:50:59 AM

limeyfellow: fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.

Toy guns were always the best in the 70s and 80s. Made from metal, no crappy orange markings, and they handle caps just fine. Kids today can't get good stuff.


Crack, crack, click, click, crack, click, crack, crack crack...
 
2012-12-18 12:53:28 AM

Bucky Katt: What calibre color was the magic marker?


I just measured the two Sharpies on my desk: the normal anti-personnel one is .45 (116 grain) and the large game one is .665 (240 grain).

/I'm going to go get loaded now.
 
2012-12-18 12:54:46 AM

ultraholland: Anybody tell me why these are still legal?

[s7d5.scene7.com image 380x380]

Anybody? I just don't understand why anyone would need this. There is no legitimate purpose for something so obscene.


Talk about clueless. Obviously you've never tried to tag the interior of a subway train or school with a "Fine" Sharpie before!
 
2012-12-18 12:56:05 AM
limeyfellow: Toy guns were always the best in the 70s and 80s. Made from metal, no crappy orange markings, and they handle caps just fine. Kids today can't get good stuff.

god I remember my water guns: battery-operated full-scale models of uzis, mac 10s, and tec 9s with removable magazines as the water reservoirs. Childhood was the shiat!
 
2012-12-18 12:56:37 AM
"Oh my god! He has a gun in his pants".

"Calm down Sarah, Dan's just happy to see you. But you might want to keep your hands off that thing because if you touch it, it may just shoot you".
 
2012-12-18 01:03:39 AM

ultraholland: limeyfellow: Toy guns were always the best in the 70s and 80s. Made from metal, no crappy orange markings, and they handle caps just fine. Kids today can't get good stuff.

god I remember my water guns: battery-operated full-scale models of uzis, mac 10s, and tec 9s with removable magazines as the water reservoirs. Childhood was the shiat!


Yeah, we used to play with toy guns that were completely realistic looking. You could buy them at any local toy shop. It was just the norm. I remember we were pissed when they finally added the orange muzzle plugs. Of course, those were extracted pretty quickly. That was a long time ago.
 
2012-12-18 01:07:36 AM
When I was in high school, I once got caught with a crowbar and a switchblade in my locker. Even told the principle that they were there in case I needed to fark up some bullies who were messing with a (developmentally disabled) cousin of mine, who went to the same school.

I think I got 2 hours of detention. And I got sent home with both items at the end of the day.

/Old.
 
2012-12-18 01:17:08 AM
Is this fallout from the new type of warfare and the lack of need for attrition, I wonder.
 
2012-12-18 01:17:20 AM

ultraholland: Anybody tell me why these are still legal?



Anybody? I just don't understand why anyone would need this. There is no legitimate purpose for something so obscene.


Well, technically that is not an 'assault' Marker.

Even though, as you stated, we should all stop kidding ourselves, we all know markers only have one function.
 
2012-12-18 01:17:30 AM
According to CRACKED, in some states it actually is a misdemeanor to carry a sharpie or a magic marker because it's a "tool of vandalism". It gets really bad for people caught for graffiti, because sharpies become contraband for them. So getting caught with one violates their parole.
 
2012-12-18 01:26:53 AM

Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?


Nope
 
2012-12-18 01:38:17 AM

fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.


We had people that would leave their rifles or shotguns in the principle's office during hunting seasons if they didn't have a vehicle that would lock 'just in case.' I honestly don't remember anyone carrying a pistol with them in high school because really... what would you shoot with a pistol that wouldn't be more effectively shot with the rifle or shotgun you had?

I see so many people these days that appear to me as frightened children that are afraid of guns because they're a dangerous tool that could just jump up and shoot them without warning, or believe that they need a gun at all times to feel safe from a world out to get them. The mom of that shiatbag, and by extension... the shiatbag himself, that shot up the school last week fits the latter category.

I fully support not the registration of firearms, but the registration of people to own a firearm. They can own as many as they want, or none at all, but they have to be fully registered at the federal level and tested yearly to maintain their license to own. Any incidents of unwarranted violence at all results in the temporary or permanent loss of the 'right' to own a firearm and a search of all property owned. It wouldn't be very effective immediately, but in 10 years? Or 30 years?  Imagine not caring that the guy waiting at the school office to pick his kid up is carrying a sidearm for some unknown reason. Imagine seeing someone walking down a busy street in a large city carrying a rifle case and just dismissing it as someone probably taking it to a gun shop for repair, or coming back from a hunting trip.

All I see are people worried about the object and not at all about the person carrying it. So people want gun control? That starts with weeding out of society the people likely to use a gun in a criminal act. That kid that shot up the school had red flags all over him. People who knew him said he had psychological issues. People who knew him knew his mom was a doomsday gun nut. Why was the little bastard and his mom still freely walking the streets? I've seen right here on Fark threads morans claiming that if guns were banned, he couldn't have done what he did. I claim bullshiat. He shouldn't have been able to do what he did because a multitude of people knew that the family was a mental trainwreck, yet nothing was done about them at all. They shouldn't have had access to firearms not because there are no firearms, but because the doors at the nuthouses don't have knobs on the inside. 

Or I guess we could just continue to spend trillions on foreign wars, bailing out megacorps and superbanks due to lying/cheating/mismanagement, import subsidies to other countries, two-party political wrangling and power struggles, and making sure potheads don't see the light of day... rather than protecting our own society, building roads and power distribution, and tending to the sick and homeless. Because priorities.
 
2012-12-18 01:39:14 AM
/rant
 
2012-12-18 01:48:14 AM
Meanwhile, in Texas...

Link
 
2012-12-18 01:52:50 AM

ultraholland: god I remember my water guns: battery-operated full-scale models of uzis, mac 10s, and tec 9s with removable magazines as the water reservoirs. Childhood was the shiat!


In the late sixties a friend had a toy pump shotgun. You'd give it a few pumps, pull the trigger and bam! Granted it wasn't quite as loud as the real thing. Probably the pinnacle of stupid kids toys.
 
2012-12-18 02:00:19 AM

ElLoco: /rant


Link

And from 1993 an article warning of the problems to come...

Link
 
2012-12-18 02:01:21 AM

MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope


Good Lord.
 
2012-12-18 02:17:55 AM

ElLoco: Or I guess we could just continue to spend trillions on foreign wars, bailing out megacorps and superbanks due to lying/cheating/mismanagement, import subsidies to other countries, two-party political wrangling and power struggles, and making sure potheads don't see the light of day... rather than protecting our own society, building roads and power distribution, and tending to the sick and homeless. Because priorities.


I find it hard to be anything but emotionally disconnected from anything that the media tries to foist onto people. Not because I'm heartless, but I have enough already to deal with that is direct and personal. There is a lot of suffering in the world, like the 3000 kids yesterday that died of malaria, but priories man, priorities. There are a lot of things people, business, and corporations could do that maybe wouldn't prevent stuff like this but would reduce it without passing laws, but we're not going to, because priorities.
 
2012-12-18 02:22:14 AM
Why was her first thought "gun!" and not "boner"?
 
2012-12-18 02:22:39 AM

SmithHiller: Was it a magnum 44?
[www.apluswhs.com image 238x238]


Did you know those things have a warning label that says "Do not take internally"?

Oh yes they do.
 
2012-12-18 02:34:38 AM

Brick-House: This her???

[1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x212]


I almost want to find her and ask why the ink unibrow?!?! Almost.
 
2012-12-18 02:55:47 AM

The more you eat the more you fart: Bring on the rash of knee-jerk reactions.

Its no different than what farkloads of politicians are doing in congress right now...


That's not quite fair. They are our elected representatives. Right now they are representing the knee-jerk reactions of their constituents.

You could say that they have an ethical responsibility to be wiser and more far-sighted than Jack-in-the-Street and to exercise restraint when the masses are in a panic rather than ride the wave, but they're only human. Realistically, you've got to expect some of them to exploit the situation. Last I checked, "farkloads" of politicians weren't doing that. Hopefully, most of them are waiting for emotions to settle before they survey the lay of the land (if indeed anything has really changed) before they set to work on changes to gun policy.
 
2012-12-18 02:57:19 AM

MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope


Wow!

Two things:

1) This is the result of parents who are farking idiots!

2) Not that it applies to an 11yr old, but this and other insane reactions are an excellent reason to require basic statistics education in schools. The chance of these events happening to you are very, very remote. If you think this will happen to you, don't ever get in your car. It's a death machine!
 
2012-12-18 03:00:48 AM
Dumb ass americans...now they are gonna give up the only chance they ever had against total slavery..........

look at me...I am safe......wheeeeeeee!
 
2012-12-18 03:08:20 AM

SweetDickens: Dumb ass americans...now they are gonna give up the only chance they ever had against total slavery..........

look at me...I am safe......wheeeeeeee!


Yep, here comes total slavery! Yeah... Any minute now...
 
2012-12-18 04:09:12 AM
When officers arrived it was quickly determined that the student did not have a weapon, but had a marker concealed in their clothing.

Ah. So, "in their pocket"?
 
2012-12-18 04:14:29 AM

bunner: When officers arrived it was quickly determined that the student did not have a weapon, but had a marker concealed in their clothing.

Ah. So, "in their pocket"?


"Police also determined that there was a body concealed in his clothing, but it was just the boy."
 
2012-12-18 04:15:58 AM
I remember in our HS a rehearsal for a Shakespeare play involved a couple of students slashing at each other with a pair of antique cavalry sabres. Theseadays even bringing those puppies into the school parking lot would probably get you suspended. Fortunately the sabres were pretty dull and the students were going slow, still.
/and I wondered why our English teacher drank.
//mind you, most do- seems to be a combo of failed hopes of being a writer coupled with impending mid-life crisis.
 
2012-12-18 04:18:31 AM

ShannonKW: The more you eat the more you fart: Bring on the rash of knee-jerk reactions.

Its no different than what farkloads of politicians are doing in congress right now...

That's not quite fair. They are our elected representatives. Right now they are representing the knee-jerk reactions of their constituents.

You could say that they have an ethical responsibility to be wiser and more far-sighted than Jack-in-the-Street and to exercise restraint when the masses are in a panic rather than ride the wave, but they're only human. Realistically, you've got to expect some of them to exploit the situation. Last I checked, "farkloads" of politicians weren't doing that. Hopefully, most of them are waiting for emotions to settle before they survey the lay of the land (if indeed anything has really changed) before they set to work on changes to gun policy.


Yeah, the psychopaths.
 
2012-12-18 04:20:29 AM

vrax: MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope

Wow!

Two things:

1) This is the result of parents who are farking idiots!

2) Not that it applies to an 11yr old, but this and other insane reactions are an excellent reason to require basic statistics education in schools. The chance of these events happening to you are very, very remote. If you think this will happen to you, don't ever get in your car. It's a death machine!


I hate cars. I know the maths.

Ban cars!
 
2012-12-18 04:23:36 AM

StoPPeRmobile: vrax: MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope

Wow!

Two things:

1) This is the result of parents who are farking idiots!

2) Not that it applies to an 11yr old, but this and other insane reactions are an excellent reason to require basic statistics education in schools. The chance of these events happening to you are very, very remote. If you think this will happen to you, don't ever get in your car. It's a death machine!

I hate cars. I know the maths.

Ban cars!


Well, that would be interesting.
 
2012-12-18 04:25:50 AM
I don't get all the hate. I have an extensive collection of magic markers, as well as enough crayons to get me through the apocalypse, but don't lump me in with this kid. Sure, I also have ten sharpies, but they're all kept in a safe under lock and key, and I never leave any lying around when Mexican friends call around. Just because there are a couple of douchebags shouldn't mean the fundamental right to make colorful doodles is taken away from us.
 
2012-12-18 04:32:08 AM
So assuming that magnum sharpies would be the equivalent of an assault rifle or other big "scary" gun, would Copic markers be the equivalent of ornately decorated dueling pistols?
 
2012-12-18 04:33:45 AM

vrax: StoPPeRmobile: vrax: MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope

Wow!

Two things:

1) This is the result of parents who are farking idiots!

2) Not that it applies to an 11yr old, but this and other insane reactions are an excellent reason to require basic statistics education in schools. The chance of these events happening to you are very, very remote. If you think this will happen to you, don't ever get in your car. It's a death machine!

I hate cars. I know the maths.

Ban cars!

Well, that would be interesting.


We could save 40,000 a year (approx) if we would just make the commitment to ban cars. Why don't people want to save 40,000 people? Are they monsters?
 
2012-12-18 04:34:54 AM
Oh, I also blame the retarded ammount work hours companies require now.
 
2012-12-18 04:45:33 AM

StoPPeRmobile: vrax: StoPPeRmobile: vrax: MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope

Wow!

Two things:

1) This is the result of parents who are farking idiots!

2) Not that it applies to an 11yr old, but this and other insane reactions are an excellent reason to require basic statistics education in schools. The chance of these events happening to you are very, very remote. If you think this will happen to you, don't ever get in your car. It's a death machine!

I hate cars. I know the maths.

Ban cars!

Well, that would be interesting.

We could save 40,000 a year (approx) if we would just make the commitment to ban cars. Why don't people want to save 40,000 people? Are they monsters?


People are monsters, but unfortunately, that's the price we pay for the convenience of car travel. Some day, maybe we'll take the human element out of driving, or maybe our society will be structured such that cars can go bye-bye.

If we really wanted to reduce deaths, however, we would ban hearts. They are seriously farked up killers.
 
2012-12-18 06:00:19 AM

vrax: ultraholland: limeyfellow: Toy guns were always the best in the 70s and 80s. Made from metal, no crappy orange markings, and they handle caps just fine. Kids today can't get good stuff.

god I remember my water guns: battery-operated full-scale models of uzis, mac 10s, and tec 9s with removable magazines as the water reservoirs. Childhood was the shiat!

Yeah, we used to play with toy guns that were completely realistic looking. You could buy them at any local toy shop. It was just the norm. I remember we were pissed when they finally added the orange muzzle plugs. Of course, those were extracted pretty quickly. That was a long time ago.


Late 60s to early 70s. I actually still have the holsters for mine. Sure wish I had those cool metal cap guns with no red thingie in the barrel. Would sell for big bucks. Seeing how I managed to not have any kids.

/after my mother went to all that effort to save those things too
 
2012-12-18 06:35:44 AM
This is all due to Al Gore inventing the internet.

20 years ago you heard about bad stuff in your neighborhood. Today we hear about every bad thing that ever happens. 20 year ago I never would have heard about the guy in China that killed 15 school kids with a machettee. I likely never would have heard about the guy in Norway killing 77 people until way after the fact...and I wouldn't have had 50,000 opinions crammed down my throat within 24 hours.

There are how many schools in the world? 10 million? 50 million?.....1 bad isolated event happened at this school. To respond by putting up barbed-wire around all our schools, having armed guards patrol the grounds, and metal detectors at all entrances is not a reasonable response.
 
2012-12-18 07:29:39 AM

MechTard: Apos: Homr: 11-Year old in Salt Lake brought a loaded gun to school today to protect himself from a gunman. Supposedly his parents gave it to him. Good to see we aren't over reacting.


You're kidding, right?

Nope


From Your Article:
"Horsley said the school district will investigate and pursue criminal charges against the 11-year-old. The extent of what those charges might be won't be decided on until later this week. "

Of course, bring that so called "Justice" system to bear on a 11 year-old child, After that the kid would be permanently screwed up by that dehumanizing process of being arrested, booked, and generally treated like a piece of filth,

But the crime would be "avenged" by so-called "good and just" people, and this is want the people vote for.

People make me sick.
 
2012-12-18 07:31:46 AM
Holy jeebus Mary mother of some imaginary friend.

IT WAS A BLACK MARKER!!! AN assault marker!!.....OMG!

Why does anyone NEED that kind of a marker anyway? They're only used to draw pictures of KILLING PEOPLE!

Help us Obummer, save us from the evil black markers that are going to kill us all!!!

We must address this evil, limit the numbers of letters an assault marker can draw to less than 10.
 
2012-12-18 07:51:31 AM
I certainly hope it's not discovered the student comes from a broken home in an affluent neighborhood where the mother hoards markers in fear of the coming Crayola breakdown..
 
2012-12-18 08:00:29 AM
Why do we even have these black assualt-style Sharpies? First of all we need to change the color. Black is the color the military uses for their markers. And no civilan needs a military-style marker. Also, we need to impose strict regulations on current civilian legal Sharpies. They are far to easy to conceal. We need laws which restrict the tube length to no less than 18". Also there is no need for high capacity ink cartridges. Currently you can spread ink all over a piece of paper without having to reload. We need to have cartidges that carry no more than 10 seconds worth of ink. People can still write if they want, they will just have to reload more often. Forcing people to reload more often will give a chance for others to get the marker away from them if they start writing on the walls.

We need a safety feature integrated into the cap as well. Right now you can just pull the cap off, and it is armed and reaady to write. Idealy it would be a biometric ID or a RFID implanted ring that you wear when you want to use your marker. This would keep people from stealing your marker and using it in an act of vandalism. Lastly, do we really need a little clip thing on civilian owned markers? Those clips allow you to attach multiple markers to your clothing, which no civilan needs. Only the military and law enforcement need to carry extra writing devices on them at all times. If you have to carry the marker in your hand, you can only carry 1 at a time, and people will be able to see that you have a marker on you.
 
2012-12-18 08:10:02 AM
My daughter's school was on lockdown yesterday because somebody 5 miles away and across the river decided to tell people he was suicidal and went out into the woods with a stolen rifle. There was never any threat to the school whatsoever and the police quickly had him surrounded, just trying to talk him down, which they did eventually. This is the new norm, I suppose.
 
2012-12-18 08:57:37 AM

illannoyin: I remember a time when the local high school had a rifle team and their practice range was in the basement of the school.

/CSB and GOML in one post
//A few more years on fark and you will be able to do it too
///Now bring me my oatmeal dammit!


Me too, and this was in CANADA! I was in our school's Rifle Club, owned my own .22cal competition target rifle, routinely helped our staff advisor purchase ammo and new gear (including school-owned rifles) and bring them into the school. I think the school owned 6 or 8 .22cal rifles, and more than a few of the multi-year members besides myself owned their own.

Our staff advisor was (to our thinking back then) ridiculously draconian about gun security. The rifles were in a double locked steel cabinet, to which he had the key for one, and the school principal had the key to the other. The ammo was stored in a separate locked cabinet.

Each year started with 4 sessions, one per week, about 90-120min each, on gun and range safety. Each student was required to take a short exam and pass a practical test on how to check and verify a gun as "safe" before they were allowed on the range to schoot.

As far as I know, our staff advisor still legally owns a variety of handguns that he shoots at a private club (largely membered by ex-military). In all the years I've known him, and helped him renovate 2 homes, I was never shown his collection outside of the shooting club, because I didn't need to know where he kept his handguns, and I really didn't care to know.

Neither myself, any of the students I knew in the school club, or any of the people in the private club has ever gone crazy and shot up a school, a mall or anything other than a paper target.

I sold my target rifle shortly after high school.

//CSB over.
 
2012-12-18 09:17:00 AM

Strongbeerrules: Back when dinosaurs walked the earth I crushed a small glass tube "stink bomb" at the end of my grade 8 science class which obligated the following class to evacuate the room due to the overpowering stench. Hilarious 14-year-old humor.

Would that be a terrorist act now?


Lucky you... Back when I did that, the teacher locked us all in the room and refused to let anyone leave until someone ratted me out. No one did. It was terrible.
 
2012-12-18 09:27:41 AM
MrDon: : Something smells rotten here. There has to be more to the story. I can't imagine how anyone can mistake a magic marker for a weapon, however, I can imagine a kid starting a story about another kid he would like to prank.

It's wintertime in northwest Florida. There is absolutely nothing going on, so the local media has grabbed the school shooting story and gone ape crap with it. Candlelight vigils for the victims, could it happen here editorials, why we need more school resource (police) officers even though the governor has cut school funding, etc. Something minor like this that can be blown into a news story is a whole lot easier and profitable for the paper than investigating the local corruption, especially since most of the local corruption is being done by their advertizing clients.
 
2012-12-18 09:29:01 AM

ElLoco


I fully support not the registration of firearms, but the registration of people to own a firearm. They can own as many as they want, or none at all, but they have to be fully registered at the federal level


What does this even mean? Do you also envision some level of partial registration, or could "registered" simply be a binary state (are, are not)? 


PS You said "fully" twice".
 
2012-12-18 10:39:07 AM
It wasn't a marker concealed in his clothes, he was just really happy to see you.
 
2012-12-18 10:55:52 AM

ultraholland: Anybody tell me why these are still legal?

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Anybody? I just don't understand why anyone would need this. There is no legitimate purpose for something so obscene.


Surprisingly enough, they last a long time and do great with big stencils. We used these at work to stencil letters and numbers on the side of moving equipment. We'd have to use two on one piece of equipment, and spray paint is considered a "hazard."
 
2012-12-18 11:14:44 AM

boinkingbill: "Oh my god! He has a gun in his pants".


aznbadger.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-18 12:15:49 PM
I wonder what school attendance was like yesterday? I'll bet there were a lot more colds and headaches keeping little Aiden home than usual...
 
2012-12-18 01:13:07 PM

fusillade762: I still remember all the times we used to take toy guns to school. Think I'd get in trouble today packing one of these?

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And mine didn't even have the red thingy on the barrel.


I still remember a time where we brought firearms to school and would compare and trade them during lunch.
 
2012-12-18 01:55:15 PM
We had a high school here in Tulsa go on lockdown because someone heard a construction crew using a nail gun today. I guess we're gonna be on pins and needles for a few weeks.
 
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