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(Yahoo)   Dictator Obama uses massacre in Newtown to destroy second amendment rights, like we knew he would all along. *read article*. Oh, wait, actually he refuses to act hastily on any legislation because it is a "complex problem"   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 288
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2012-12-17 05:21:53 PM
Oh yes, but you see, Obama is playing a long game here. He always does this, don't you see the game here? He's going to pay lip service to it being a complex issue, and then when we've all forgotten about this and moved on, then, THEN he's gonna take away our guns, like a thief in the night!

I'll tell you something, his jackbooted storm troopers ain't gonna take my guns away, they're gonna have to take me out first.
 
2012-12-17 05:25:54 PM
Truly histories greatest monster.

Also, hes very Blah.
 
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2012-12-17 05:26:53 PM
At least he's not like those silly firemen. You know, the ones who "use" the fact that your house is on fire to rush over and put the fire out.
 
2012-12-17 05:28:44 PM
This is standard stuff, pretend to take time. He knows that once he seizes power to get his third term he can ban guns then.
 
2012-12-17 06:13:56 PM

Slaxl: This is standard stuff, pretend to take time. He knows that once he seizes power to get his third term he can ban guns then.


Oh yeah, I forgot about the third term. How long do you suppose until we're under martial law? A week? Two weeks?
 
2012-12-17 06:21:19 PM

make me some tea: Slaxl: This is standard stuff, pretend to take time. He knows that once he seizes power to get his third term he can ban guns then.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the third term. How long do you suppose until we're under martial law? A week? Two weeks?


Dec 21st. When the Mayans return and apocalyze everyone he'll use it as communist pretext for nazification. It's all in the bible.
 
2012-12-17 08:51:01 PM
We elected the right man.
 
2012-12-17 08:59:20 PM

make me some tea: Slaxl: This is standard stuff, pretend to take time. He knows that once he seizes power to get his third term he can ban guns then.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the third term. How long do you suppose until we're under martial law? A week? Two weeks?


December 21st.

Everything is going according to plan.
 
2012-12-17 09:23:38 PM

Slaxl: make me some tea: Slaxl: This is standard stuff, pretend to take time. He knows that once he seizes power to get his third term he can ban guns then.

Oh yeah, I forgot about the third term. How long do you suppose until we're under martial law? A week? Two weeks?

Dec 21st. When the Mayans return and apocalyze everyone he'll use it as communist pretext for nazification. It's all in the bible.


Then it's FEMA internment camps for Republicans and gay marriage and abortions for everyone else. YAY!
 
2012-12-17 09:25:11 PM
Damn that MeasuredCautionBama!
 
2012-12-17 09:33:23 PM
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.
 
2012-12-17 09:38:39 PM
he needs the guns.

what else is Holder going to send to the cartels?
 
2012-12-17 09:50:59 PM

Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.


Some random event
Mentat: Let me lie that the NRA says that 0bama is going to steal your guns. Strawman much?
 
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2012-12-17 10:17:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.

Some random event
Mentat: Let me lie that the NRA says that 0bama is going to steal your guns. Strawman much?


So the National Retard Association hasn't been claiming that Obama will ban guns? Are you serious? That's idiotic even for you, and that's saying quite a bit.
 
2012-12-17 10:27:29 PM
 
2012-12-17 10:34:56 PM
I know the Democrats got farked pretty badly in the 90s after the AWB got passed. Think they'd get farked just as badly this time if Congress somehow managed to pass one again?

/GOP's in the House so it won't happen, but still.
 
2012-12-17 10:36:26 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.

Some random event
Mentat: Let me lie that the NRA says that 0bama is going to steal your guns. Strawman much?


Jesus, give the poor chicken a rest.
 
2012-12-17 10:38:47 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat: Let me lie that the NRA says that 0bama is going to steal your guns. Strawman much?


Really?! It's almost like you're some kind of retard or something. (pdf warning)

Seriously, stop being so damned ignorant. 

And I own weapons that gun grabbers want to see banned and I'm not worried about any of the BS the NRA spews. At all.
 
2012-12-17 10:41:58 PM
Because taking the time to come up with thought out legislation to deal with a systemic problem is less reasonable them either banning everything or arming everybody.
 
2012-12-17 10:42:14 PM
well you see it's not stealing the guns because zer()bama is going to pay you for them

with a coupon for a free abortion
 
2012-12-17 10:42:41 PM

themindiswatching: I know the Democrats got farked pretty badly in the 90s after the AWB got passed. Think they'd get farked just as badly this time if Congress somehow managed to pass one again?

/GOP's in the House so it won't happen, but still.


I would say that since the GOP derp machine is still on full throttle, the Dems would have a good chance in 2014 of gaining more seats unless something like another AWB passed.

//btw, anyone watching the guy with the big bow tie on MSNBC (The Last Word). What an attention whore.
 
2012-12-17 10:44:24 PM
NULLbama is coming for your AK-47s!
 
2012-12-17 10:44:56 PM
HE'S WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!
 
2012-12-17 10:45:40 PM

The Gentleman Caller: HE'S WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!


I prefer Queefle.
 
2012-12-17 10:45:49 PM

elchip: NULLbama is coming for your AK-47s!


but what about the glocks
 
2012-12-17 10:46:15 PM
I am going to go buy some guns that can be grabbed. I don't want to be left out of this historic moment. I went down to the local gun emporium, when nice looking men were wheeling out various rifles by the cart load. One was nice enough to sell me this AR-15 rifle for a mere $3000. Small price to pay to be part of history.
 
2012-12-17 10:46:34 PM

coeyagi: The Gentleman Caller: HE'S WAITING UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION!! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!

I prefer Queefle.


Rejected names for Pokemon.
 
2012-12-17 10:48:19 PM

sprawl15: elchip: NULLbama is coming for your AK-47s!

but what about the glocks


NULLbama is gonna dereference your glocks.
 
2012-12-17 10:49:48 PM
This is all part of his master plan to force his way into our homes with his secret army and take away our guns and bibles in his fifth term.
 
2012-12-17 10:49:49 PM
How much you want to bet he traded not doing anything on gun control to Boehner in exchange for agreeing to tax increases on the wealthy?
 
2012-12-17 10:50:35 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.

Some random event
Mentat: Let me lie that the NRA says that 0bama is going to steal your guns. Strawman much?


Know how I know you're not on the NRA mailing list?
 
2012-12-17 10:50:50 PM

Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.


Sounds about right.

I'd wager he's going to cautiously move towards reasonable oversight and restrictions... which will get the NRA all frothy at the mouth and maybe the majority of Americans will finally notice and tell them to STFU.

/don't have a gun, have several family members who are hunters and/or work in Detroit on a regular basis and even they are getting sick of this "OBAMA GONNA TAKE AWAY MY GUNS" nonsense (and are for reasonable restrictions to make reduce - you're never gonna eliminate - *reduce* the chance that the type of guns that can do the most damage get into the hands of possibly unstable people. I like Canada's "you gotta have two people vouch for you" system - it's not perfect but if you can't find two people willing to vouch for you, well... - but I bet that is even too draconian for the US. Canada, too draconian for us. Yep.
 
2012-12-17 10:51:34 PM

karmaceutical: I am going to go buy some guns that can be grabbed. I don't want to be left out of this historic moment. I went down to the local gun emporium, when nice looking men were wheeling out various rifles by the cart load. One was nice enough to sell me this AR-15 rifle for a mere $3000. Small price to pay to be part of history.


Actually, now would be the time to get stuff like that as an investment. Its' not like the NRA won't scare the pants-wetters into buying anything and everything, causing prices to skyrocket and to help the gun manufacturers bottom lines or anything.
 
2012-12-17 10:51:41 PM

make me some tea: Oh yes, but you see, Obama is playing a long game here. He always does this, don't you see the game here? He's going to pay lip service to it being a complex issue, and then when we've all forgotten about this and moved on, then, THEN he's gonna take away our guns, like a thief in the night!

I'll tell you something, his jackbooted storm troopers ain't gonna take my guns away, they're gonna have to take me out first.


I agree he's looking at the long game. I mean, anyone who is part of a conspiracy that started before he was even born in 1961 has no problems with waiting for as long as it takes, right?
 
2012-12-17 10:51:49 PM

birchman: This is all part of his master plan to force his way into our homes with his secret army and take away our guns and bibles in his fifth term.


finally, somebody willing to tread on the 3rd amendment. it was getting lonely.
 
2012-12-17 10:51:57 PM
Obama isn't a gun grabber in the sense that liberals want him to be. Instead Obama likes to grab guns and that's why the GOP is all hot and bothered. They are all closeted gun grabbers like Obama. The GOP wants to grab your gun. So you can only come to the natural conclusion that the GOP is gay and Obama loves the right to carry firearms to fend off closeted gay Republicans.
 
2012-12-17 10:52:20 PM
The good news is that after he takes away our guns, he will reimburse us with food stamps. You know, since we all use our guns solely to kill things that we later eat.
 
2012-12-17 10:52:32 PM
Oh look, a politician refusing to take a definitive side on controversial issue. Color me shocked.
 
2012-12-17 10:53:45 PM
One thing that I think should happen is to revise the psychiatric standards that gets someone on a no-buy list. It sounds counter-intuitive, but getting a lifetime firearm ban because of possibly short term mental issues will prevent some people who really need it from seeking help.

A paranoid "gun nut" might not seek help because they are afraid to lose their guns. So they may try to ride it out or do something else and then snap one day. If there is a way that they may keep their guns or get them back it may allow some people to get the mental health help they need.

There would need to be something like a few years time with a clean mental bill of health, but I doubt anyone would take the chance on letting someone diagnosed with mental problems get a gun. So the people that need help the most won't get it and then more shootings will occur.
 
2012-12-17 10:54:05 PM
Considering he's the one that handed over free assault rifles to Mexican drug cartel, he's probably thinking he has a credibility problem.
 
2012-12-17 10:54:41 PM

Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.


Except for the mall shooting (which killed 2 people and happened only about a week ago) all those other things happened prior to the election.

So this is how it goes:
2011: No one is coming for your guns
2012: Okay, Obama isn't coming for your guns but those congressmen have little chance of getting them.
2013: Look, you've got to give up your guns. I agree with Obama on this.

What Fark Libs ridicule or deride today they'll support in time. It happened with foreign wars. It happened with state secrets. It happened with extrajudicial killings. It'll happen with gun control.
 
2012-12-17 10:55:57 PM

coeyagi: themindiswatching: I know the Democrats got farked pretty badly in the 90s after the AWB got passed. Think they'd get farked just as badly this time if Congress somehow managed to pass one again?

/GOP's in the House so it won't happen, but still.

I would say that since the GOP derp machine is still on full throttle, the Dems would have a good chance in 2014 of gaining more seats unless something like another AWB passed.

//btw, anyone watching the guy with the big bow tie on MSNBC (The Last Word). What an attention whore.


A partial "This".

Obama's campaign spend no small amount of effort trying to sooth the fears of gun owners and manufacturers, and even painted Romney as the man who was more likely to push a law. If Obama reneges on that, it gives his opponents quite a bit of ammunition.
If he cashes in on his gun salesman cred, it will haunt the party long after he's left.

/The AWB's was unpopular in general.
/The public sees itself as being punished for the acts of a few bad eggs, and we get enough of that from the TSA.
/I think 2014 will be decided by the economy, but a ban certainly wont help his party with gun owners.
 
2012-12-17 10:57:00 PM

Serious Black: The good news is that after he takes away our guns, he will reimburse us with food stamps. You know, since we all use our guns solely to kill things that we later eat.


Oh, no one except DIA is going the "I need this particular gun so I can kill zillions of wild boars" route. I hope, at least, I don't lurk the Freeper pages or anything. And there's no way banning guns outright is ever gonna happen, if only because of the hunting industry (which is legit, a whole bunch of people/businesses in Michigan would be hurting pretty damn bad if that happened).
 
2012-12-17 10:59:02 PM
The Republicans will agree to give the government more power to lock up the mentally ill. Then wonder how everyone in Tea Party ended up in the loony bin.
 
2012-12-17 10:59:51 PM

Mrbogey: Mentat: NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Tuscon shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Aurora theater shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Sikh temple shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Oregon mall shooting, Obama does nothing.
NRA: Obama is going to steal your guns!
Newport shooting.
Obama: Man, fark this shiat.
NRA: Uh-oh.

Except for the mall shooting (which killed 2 people and happened only about a week ago) all those other things happened prior to the election.

So this is how it goes:
2011: No one is coming for your guns
2012: Okay, Obama isn't coming for your guns but those congressmen have little chance of getting them.
2013: Look, you've got to give up your guns. I agree with Obama on this.

What Fark Libs ridicule or deride today they'll support in time. It happened with foreign wars. It happened with state secrets. It happened with extrajudicial killings. It'll happen with gun control.


You're right.

I support 1/10 whereas before I only supported 0/10.
 
2012-12-17 11:02:23 PM

badhatharry: The Republicans will agree to give the government more power to lock up the mentally ill. Then wonder how everyone in Tea Party ended up in the loony bin.


It is interesting that the GOP is going to have little choice here but to support more universal health care, especially from the mental health aspect. It's sad though that it takes the possibility of losing their precious AR-15s to do it.
 
2012-12-17 11:02:49 PM
Means Obama is a bit more political realist than your average Gun Grabbing DoucheCrat. Probably figured out that Connecticut has some of the most stringent Gun Control in the US...and that didn't stop Adam Lanza
 
2012-12-17 11:03:06 PM

turtle553: One thing that I think should happen is to revise the psychiatric standards that gets someone on a no-buy list. It sounds counter-intuitive, but getting a lifetime firearm ban because of possibly short term mental issues will prevent some people who really need it from seeking help.

A paranoid "gun nut" might not seek help because they are afraid to lose their guns. So they may try to ride it out or do something else and then snap one day. If there is a way that they may keep their guns or get them back it may allow some people to get the mental health help they need.

There would need to be something like a few years time with a clean mental bill of health, but I doubt anyone would take the chance on letting someone diagnosed with mental problems get a gun. So the people that need help the most won't get it and then more shootings will occur.


That's a legitimate worry to some sense already exists. If, say, you need a recommendation from a doctor that you're of sound mind, you could get treatment from one, get better, and get the recommendation from a new one. Maybe.

It could be self reporting, too. To get my license renewed I had to sign on penalty of something substantial that I hadn't randomly passed out in the last six months. I have in the past decade (eh, maybe six years ago) but since then I've gotten treatment.and it didn't affect my ability to get a new license. (Shrug).
 
2012-12-17 11:04:06 PM

PacManDreaming: karmaceutical: I am going to go buy some guns that can be grabbed. I don't want to be left out of this historic moment. I went down to the local gun emporium, when nice looking men were wheeling out various rifles by the cart load. One was nice enough to sell me this AR-15 rifle for a mere $3000. Small price to pay to be part of history.

Actually, now would be the time to get stuff like that as an investment. Its' not like the NRA won't scare the pants-wetters into buying anything and everything, causing prices to skyrocket and to help the gun manufacturers bottom lines or anything.


Tell me about it. I have always wanted to own one of these weapons. Something about the mystique and power contained in one compact package. I remember when I was kid, asking my parents for my first gun. I had visions of the wild west heroes I'd read about. So I asked my mom for one... and that was a non-starter. I tried everything else I could think of... eloquent persuasive essays... even going as far as asking Santa Claus. I had all but given till that big day Christmas Morning, when my Dad defied all reason and gave me my first air rifle. I'll never forget that day.

/you'll shoot your eye out
 
2012-12-17 11:04:36 PM

way south: coeyagi: themindiswatching: I know the Democrats got farked pretty badly in the 90s after the AWB got passed. Think they'd get farked just as badly this time if Congress somehow managed to pass one again?

/GOP's in the House so it won't happen, but still.

I would say that since the GOP derp machine is still on full throttle, the Dems would have a good chance in 2014 of gaining more seats unless something like another AWB passed.

//btw, anyone watching the guy with the big bow tie on MSNBC (The Last Word). What an attention whore.

A partial "This".

Obama's campaign spend no small amount of effort trying to sooth the fears of gun owners and manufacturers, and even painted Romney as the man who was more likely to push a law. If Obama reneges on that, it gives his opponents quite a bit of ammunition.
If he cashes in on his gun salesman cred, it will haunt the party long after he's left.

/The AWB's was unpopular in general.
/The public sees itself as being punished for the acts of a few bad eggs, and we get enough of that from the TSA.
/I think 2014 will be decided by the economy, but a ban certainly wont help his party with gun owners.


Gun Owners: The demographic politicians should care the least about.

NRA Lobbying does nothing to get candidates elected in this country anymore, the GOP needs to realize this.
 
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