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(Fox News)   In a tiny bit of silver lining to the latest mass slaughter committed through the use of high-capacity firearms, Discovery is cancelling one of its gun-fetish shows   (foxnews.com) divider line 30
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2012-12-17 06:23:45 PM
4 votes:
Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.
2012-12-17 05:23:02 PM
4 votes:
Stupid overreaction.
2012-12-17 07:18:07 PM
3 votes:
www.windhamweaponry.com

Take one home and put it on your dining room table, and wait and see how long it takes until it starts shooting you. After it sits there long enough and you finally realize it isn't going to shoot you, maybe you will start to think about addressing the real causes of the shootings that happen.
2012-12-17 06:54:26 PM
3 votes:

3StratMan: What makes a rifle an "assault rifle" anyway?


Shooting somebody with it.
2012-12-17 06:37:31 PM
3 votes:

wildcardjack: orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.

It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.


I can think of some other reasons.

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2012-12-17 05:28:52 PM
3 votes:
Now how about their crappy "reality" shows that aren't about guns?
2012-12-17 07:38:39 PM
2 votes:

kg2095: Self Defense? When was the last time any of you gun fetishists ever defended yourself or anyone else with your killing machine?


Five years ago. Wife was being stalked by the director of the movie in which she was starring. He was dangerous and the police wouldn't do anything about him until he actually turned violent. Things went in that direction...

Your move, dipshiat.
2012-12-17 07:26:16 PM
2 votes:

Lunchlady: 3StratMan: Barfmaker:

I'd say if you wanted to ban "assault weapons" you could say: Has "this much" caliber and can fire bullets "this fast".
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Considering most of the guns that people call "assault rifles" have a much smaller caliber than your average semi-auto hunting rifle, and don't shoot any faster either, your description fails.
2012-12-17 06:51:26 PM
2 votes:

coeyagi: The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.

The should call it a tickle rifle. Because for one nanosecond before massive bone or muscle damage, that's what it does to your body.


Doesn't a 9mm pistol do the same thing? Let's call every gun an assault gun. You know make it EXTRA scary sounding.
2012-12-18 07:07:11 PM
1 votes:
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7490597/81364669#c81364669" target="_blank">Mike Chewbacca</a>:</b> <i>ferretman: Mike Chewbacca: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day (the 80s) DnD and heavy metal music were responsible for violent youth.

If Im going to blame anything other than the shooter it would be our crappy mental healthcare system.

I'm a D&D-playing headbanger, but this post is retarded. Unless you know of a whole bunch of people who were mass murdered by Player's Handbook-wielding madmen?

*book to the neck*

CRIT!

You obviously do not remember the 1980's or you were not born yet. D & D was blamed for deaths as well as Heavy Metal...or has everyone forgot Tipper Gore?

Way to miss the point.

Fear of D&D is ridiculous, and D&D isn't a tool used to kill people. D&D is also mocked in the main stream.

Guns, on the other hand, ARE used to kill people, and our society worships both guns and violence.

Yes, D&D was included in the Satanic Panic of the 80s. However, it is not an apt comparison to calls for gun control in the wake of a mass shooting. Guns actually kill people, D&D does not.</i>

This thread is dead but m point was this, the article was about a TV show that got pulled because it was about guns and we just had a mass shooting. Comments by some of those interviewed in the article said Hollywood was partially to blame for gun violence. Back in the 80s metal and dnd were scapegoated. Movies no more killed anyone than those things did 30 years ago. The article is about blaming Hollywood for violence not gun control.
2012-12-18 08:55:18 AM
1 votes:

kg2095: The Troof hurts: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: wildcardjack: orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.

It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.

I can think of some other reasons.

Alcohol kills more people than pistols and rifles in this country. Why the rage about rifles?

Because they are totally unnecessary accessories for people who feel inadequate.

A gun is a machine that is used to kill. Now why would anyone want such a machine unless they were aimin' to do themselves some killin'?

Self Defense? When was the last time any of you gun fetishists ever defended yourself or anyone else with your killing machine?

In case of foreign attack? Your gun is equally useless against ICBMs and 767s.

Guns are for psychos and knobs.


Um, I used my gun to protect myself. Did not have to fire it. Without my gun, I am sure I would have been beaten and robbed at the least. Maybe I would have been killed. I was away from home, so I would have been stranded. But yeah, protecting your own life is completely psychotic.
2012-12-17 08:37:27 PM
1 votes:
The sad part of all this is that the Internet Outrage typified in this thread will have about as much affect as it did on Penn State. Both situations are tragedies, just differing in scale.

Lots of people will get worked up and run around yelling with their virtual hands over their virtual heads.
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Then, after the dust settles and all is said and done. nothing will really change. Why, you ask?

Just as with Penn State, the furor of the debate is driven by emotion, not facts or logic. Meanwhile, the chance to have a real effect on the root cause of the issue(s) will be lost because of assholes desperate for a pulpit.
2012-12-17 08:06:57 PM
1 votes:

Clutch2013: born_yesterday: Mike Chewbacca: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day (the 80s) DnD and heavy metal music were responsible for violent youth.

If Im going to blame anything other than the shooter it would be our crappy mental healthcare system.

I'm a D&D-playing headbanger, but this post is retarded. Unless you know of a whole bunch of people who were mass murdered by Player's Handbook-wielding madmen?

*book to the neck*

CRIT!

I think he meant that D&D was blamed for being responsible, in an irrational way.

In any case, I'm sure that picture of the succubus in the Monster Manual was responsible for more than her fair share of dead kittens.

Wut?

*googles*

Um...ok. Ran out of Playboys?


I was 13. A stiff breeze was enough to set me off. Hell, the women's underwear section of the Sears catalog was like Christmas.
2012-12-17 08:01:03 PM
1 votes:

Mike Chewbacca: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day (the 80s) DnD and heavy metal music were responsible for violent youth.

If Im going to blame anything other than the shooter it would be our crappy mental healthcare system.

I'm a D&D-playing headbanger, but this post is retarded. Unless you know of a whole bunch of people who were mass murdered by Player's Handbook-wielding madmen?

*book to the neck*

CRIT!


I think he meant that D&D was blamed for being responsible, in an irrational way.

In any case, I'm sure that picture of the succubus in the Monster Manual was responsible for more than her fair share of dead kittens.
2012-12-17 07:54:26 PM
1 votes:

Lunchlady: 3StratMan: Lunchlady: 3StratMan: Lunchlady: 3StratMan: Barfmaker:

I'd say if you wanted to ban "assault weapons" you could say: Has "this much" caliber and can fire bullets "this fast".
.

Considering most of the guns that people call "assault rifles" have a much smaller caliber than your average semi-auto hunting rifle, and don't shoot any faster either, your description fails.

Ummmm ok? I wasn't arguing that what people were saying was correct, I was trying to suggest a way of measurement that makes a modicum of sense so in the future assault weapons bans make some logical sense.

Again, the pro-gun crowd wants to spend their time arguing semantics instead of merits you're going to lose the debate.

Part of the problem is that "assault weapons" bans make no sense, since a lot of the criterion is put in by people who have no idea what it is they are banning, or what the stuff does. For example, "Barrel shrouds" always end up in the mix. If they had any idea what a "Barrel shroud" even was or what it's purpose is, it wouldn't be brought up in the discussion. Semantics matter.

That is exactly my farking point. Unless the pro-gun crowd gets out in front of this thing and proposes pro-active legislation you're going to get burned by horrifically draconian and illogical new laws.

Instead you are content to play pedantic man on the internet after people who don't understand what they're doing pass the law.


But there isn't anything to propose! That's the point! What do we cover? Caliber? Then what about Elk hunters? .30-06/.308/7.62 is the best tool for the job! What caliber is an "assault rifle"? Most are 5.56mm, which is smaller and weaker. How about capacity? My .30-06 hunting rifle accepts magazines of *any* size. Not only that, but it takes seconds to reload a mag-fed weapon. You can destroy an entire crowd with only four-round magazines - especially in the more common hunting calibers.

The "assault weapons" bans only address the appearance of lethality, not the reality. It's feel-good legislation that does *nothing* to impact a person's ability to project lethality.
2012-12-17 07:40:12 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2012-12-17 07:33:21 PM
1 votes:
Back in my day (the 80s) DnD and heavy metal music were responsible for violent youth.

If Im going to blame anything other than the shooter it would be our crappy mental healthcare system.
2012-12-17 07:31:42 PM
1 votes:

coeyagi: The Troof hurts: coeyagi: The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.

The should call it a tickle rifle. Because for one nanosecond before massive bone or muscle damage, that's what it does to your body.

Doesn't a 9mm pistol do the same thing? Let's call every gun an assault gun. You know make it EXTRA scary sounding.

No argument here. But I'm actually interested in pragmatic measures to reduce the violence. Trifling over nomenclature is just good fun but it doesn't do shiat to address the problem. Reduce the incidents? Go after the intent and motivation, not the tool, especially one enshrined in our culture and defended by multi-millions of dollars by a heartless lobbying group.

Go after:

1) The Drug Trade
2) Mental Health Care
3) The Glorification of Gun Culture
4) Sensationalization of these crimes in the media

No easy solutions to fix any of those, but if you chip away at any of those issues, you'll see a reduction.


Needs to be repeated.

Again. And again. And again and again and again.

Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

/OKC attack was performed using assault bombs
2012-12-17 07:23:37 PM
1 votes:

3StratMan: Take one home and put it on your dining room table, and wait and see how long it takes until it starts shooting you.


Is that where Nancy Lanza kept hers?
2012-12-17 07:18:38 PM
1 votes:

The Troof hurts: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: wildcardjack: orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.

It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.

I can think of some other reasons.

Alcohol kills more people than pistols and rifles in this country. Why the rage about rifles?


Because they are totally unnecessary accessories for people who feel inadequate.

A gun is a machine that is used to kill. Now why would anyone want such a machine unless they were aimin' to do themselves some killin'?

Self Defense? When was the last time any of you gun fetishists ever defended yourself or anyone else with your killing machine?

In case of foreign attack? Your gun is equally useless against ICBMs and 767s.

Guns are for psychos and knobs.
2012-12-17 07:14:56 PM
1 votes:

my lip balm addiction: The Stealth Hippopotamus: and nothing was lost

Except 4 of the nicest tits on TV.

/Mom and daughter both have awesome farking bodies


You need new glasses. The daughter is fine(aside from being a total airhead), but the mom is Iggy Pop with implanted globes. ICK
2012-12-17 07:12:04 PM
1 votes:
Legalize ALL guns based on a meritocracy. Every class of weapon is forbidden to the 0th level citizen, even metal steak knives. As you age, training and classes and a clean record allow you to apply for higher licenses. Eventually, you could even work your way up to Tactical Nuke, although sale would be prohibited as per usual.

This way, we could eliminate a large part of the anti-gun crowd's objections and piss off any psychotic executives who wormed their way up the corporate ladder but fail the psych profile for metal cutlery. "Would sir like his steak pre-cut or will sir be using his hands?"
2012-12-17 06:55:36 PM
1 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: and nothing was lost


Except 4 of the nicest tits on TV.

/Mom and daughter both have awesome farking bodies
2012-12-17 06:45:41 PM
1 votes:

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: wildcardjack: orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.

It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.

I can think of some other reasons.


Alcohol kills more people than pistols and rifles in this country. Why the rage about rifles?
2012-12-17 06:33:38 PM
1 votes:

orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.


It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.

It's similar to hot rodding. There's the core functionality and the rest is stylin'.
2012-12-17 06:27:53 PM
1 votes:
They are cancelling Mythbusters??
2012-12-17 06:15:34 PM
1 votes:

Nabb1: It was kind of a sad knock off of "Sons of Guns," anyway.


This. And I got kinda sick of SoG this past season. The overly dramatic music and camera work they did before every (it seemed) pull of the trigger (and then... COMMERCIAL!) got old.

Now Top Shot I dig. I hope they bring that one back. It's refreshing to see a reality show that's an ACTUAL competition. No judges needed.
2012-12-17 05:32:55 PM
1 votes:
That changes everything
2012-12-17 05:26:33 PM
1 votes:
It was kind of a sad knock off of "Sons of Guns," anyway.
2012-12-17 05:22:52 PM
1 votes:
and nothing was lost
 
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