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(Fox News)   In a tiny bit of silver lining to the latest mass slaughter committed through the use of high-capacity firearms, Discovery is cancelling one of its gun-fetish shows   ( foxnews.com) divider line
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2012-12-17 10:54:02 PM  
Interesting comment I read elsewhere:

When is the gun community going to address Newtown? When is the gay community going to address Penn State?
 
2012-12-17 10:59:36 PM  
I like guns but it was a terrible show- incompetent gunsmiths and ugly, overpriced guns. The head of the shop seemed like a self aggrandizing douche.
 
2012-12-17 11:01:45 PM  

DoctorOfLove: Interesting comment I read elsewhere:

When is the gun community going to address Newtown? When is the gay community going to address Penn State?


That's not interesting, it's trolling. Shame on you.
 
2012-12-17 11:04:26 PM  

Flappyhead: DoctorOfLove: Interesting comment I read elsewhere:

When is the gun community going to address Newtown? When is the gay community going to address Penn State?

That's not interesting, it's trolling. Shame on you.


It points out how ridiculous the Weeners is. Sorry it hit too close to home.
 
2012-12-17 11:08:32 PM  
The "right to bare arms" needs updating. It made sense 225 years ago when it was accepted you were using your rifle to hunt for food or kill marauding redcoats and injuns. "Sane people have the right to bare reasonable arms" makes more sense in modern society. If you need a semi-auto rifle to hunt you are a shiat hunter who shouldn't be in the goddamn woods to begin with. Deer, hogs, turkeys, ducks, quail, and even bears rarely shoot back. There is no reason for a sportsman hunter to have an AR-15 or equivalent. Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are a hell of a lot more proficient at killing people than people with knives or bows.
 
2012-12-17 11:08:32 PM  
It points out how ridiculous the Weeners is. Sorry it hit too close to home.
 
2012-12-17 11:08:59 PM  

coeyagi: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Giltric: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: /but don't call it a fetish

What? The number of times you've posedt that today?

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better?

Good graphic or greatest graphic ever?


Gross graphic even.
 
2012-12-17 11:10:28 PM  

BATMANATEE: The "right to bare arms" needs updating. It made sense 225 years ago when it was accepted you were using your rifle to hunt for food or kill marauding redcoats and injuns. "Sane people have the right to bare reasonable arms" makes more sense in modern society. If you need a semi-auto rifle to hunt you are a shiat hunter who shouldn't be in the goddamn woods to begin with. Deer, hogs, turkeys, ducks, quail, and even bears rarely shoot back. There is no reason for a sportsman hunter to have an AR-15 or equivalent. Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are a hell of a lot more proficient at killing people than people with knives or bows.


Rights have nothing to do with what other people think they "need". And the folks who wrote in the amendment were referring to arms, without restriction.
 
2012-12-17 11:19:21 PM  

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: Flappyhead: DoctorOfLove: Interesting comment I read elsewhere:

When is the gun community going to address Newtown? When is the gay community going to address Penn State?

That's not interesting, it's trolling. Shame on you.

It points out how ridiculous the Weeners is. Sorry it hit too close to home.


Except guns are directly related to Newtown.
 
2012-12-17 11:19:49 PM  

DoctorOfLove: My proposal (as a Connecticut handgun owner): If you are male, take an SSRI, and are under the age of 30, then as a condition of taking an SSRI, you must (a) live in a dwelling that has no guns in it (b) must have your drivers license marked as not permitting a gun purchase or any use of gun ranges etc (interestingly, Connecticut requires a photo ID to buy guns, alcohol and weirdest of all, to vote -- crazy I know)

Not saying this would have stopped Newtown, but it would have directly addressed the problem there (assuming we find out that little lord fauntelroy was on an SSRI, which seems very very likely).

Mom would have had to move the guns out of the house. He was denied a gun purchase earlier in the week any way. My law would literally have stopped the sequence of events, ASSUMING that the people involved were willing to comply with the law (which is mostly his mom, he clearly wasn't).


Only men. Sexist law. Unconstitutional.
 
2012-12-17 11:25:06 PM  

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: BATMANATEE: The "right to bare arms" needs updating. It made sense 225 years ago when it was accepted you were using your rifle to hunt for food or kill marauding redcoats and injuns. "Sane people have the right to bare reasonable arms" makes more sense in modern society. If you need a semi-auto rifle to hunt you are a shiat hunter who shouldn't be in the goddamn woods to begin with. Deer, hogs, turkeys, ducks, quail, and even bears rarely shoot back. There is no reason for a sportsman hunter to have an AR-15 or equivalent. Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are a hell of a lot more proficient at killing people than people with knives or bows.

Rights have nothing to do with what other people think they "need". And the folks who wrote in the amendment were referring to arms, without restriction.


Exactly. The "need" no longer applies to most citizens, so why should the right?
 
2012-12-17 11:25:26 PM  
This is right up there with blaming video games. So stupid.
 
2012-12-17 11:27:40 PM  

chapman: This is right up there with blaming video games. So stupid.


or

Cars?

/why don't we do that?
 
2012-12-17 11:30:26 PM  

DoctorOfLove: you want a hope of survival, choose the M16. Hell, it was designed to wound, not kill, so as to impose medical costs on the opponent.


Not a gun guy but this makes no sense.
 
2012-12-17 11:36:22 PM  

Watching_Epoxy_Cure: BATMANATEE: The "right to bare arms" needs updating. It made sense 225 years ago when it was accepted you were using your rifle to hunt for food or kill marauding redcoats and injuns. "Sane people have the right to bare reasonable arms" makes more sense in modern society. If you need a semi-auto rifle to hunt you are a shiat hunter who shouldn't be in the goddamn woods to begin with. Deer, hogs, turkeys, ducks, quail, and even bears rarely shoot back. There is no reason for a sportsman hunter to have an AR-15 or equivalent. Guns don't kill people, but people with guns are a hell of a lot more proficient at killing people than people with knives or bows.

Rights have nothing to do with what other people think they "need". And the folks who wrote in the amendment were referring to arms, without restriction.



These were the same people who also thought slavery and Letters of Marque were good ideas. Yes, our Constitution is a pretty amazing document but it wasn't handed down to us from God, and discussing changes to it is not blasphemy. Maybe, just maybe, the gun laws that worked for a sparsely populated agricultural society of 225 years ago don't really work today.
 
2012-12-17 11:45:26 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DoctorOfLove: you want a hope of survival, choose the M16. Hell, it was designed to wound, not kill, so as to impose medical costs on the opponent.

Not a gun guy but this makes no sense.


No

hbk72777: Say bye bye to these shows then

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/ban nail guns
 
2012-12-17 11:53:07 PM  

vpb: Now how about their crappy "reality" shows that aren't about guns?


Yeah, what exactly needs to happen for us to lose "Ancient Aliens" and "American Pickers"?
 
2012-12-17 11:58:53 PM  
Get rid of all the shiatty "reality" shows. Bring back the older shows like Wild Discovery. Rerun classics like "Beyond 2000". And make some new content that actually matches the term "Discovery".

Seriously, this mindset of "Let's imitate what's most popular because it gets ratings!" really needs to stop. Especially when it's a bullshiat genre like "reality" TV.

/will never forgive "Survivor" and "Big Brother" for starting this dark road that led to "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo"
//also goes for History Channel, Military Channel, Nat Geo / Wild, and all the other documentary channels
 
2012-12-17 11:59:09 PM  
The show sucked I didn't like it from the begginning. Glad it's gone. I like SOG's lets keep it.
 
2012-12-18 12:20:01 AM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Seriously, this mindset of "Let's imitate what's most popular because it gets ratings!" really needs to stop.


It boggles the mind why anyone would do such a thing.


Igor Jakovsky: fusillade762: Nabb1: It was kind of a sad knock off of "Sons of Guns," anyway.

This. And I got kinda sick of SoG this past season. The overly dramatic music and camera work they did before every (it seemed) pull of the trigger (and then... COMMERCIAL!) got old.

Now Top Shot I dig. I hope they bring that one back. It's refreshing to see a reality show that's an ACTUAL competition. No judges needed.

I quit watching top shot when it stopped being a shooting competition and became another stupid reality voting people off the island type show.


It's always had the elimination thing. I'm not sure what change you're talking about. Anyway, just fast-forward through all the talking. That's what I do.
 
2012-12-18 12:20:29 AM  

johnnyba: The show sucked I didn't like it from the begginning. Glad it's gone. I like SOG's lets keep it.


Enable spell check.
 
2012-12-18 12:26:57 AM  

fusillade762: Keizer_Ghidorah: Seriously, this mindset of "Let's imitate what's most popular because it gets ratings!" really needs to stop.

It boggles the mind why anyone would do such a thing.


Remember when Sci-Fi Channel actually had sci-fi? The guys who took over after the first few years (dunno if they're still in charge) stated that they didn't want Sci-Fi Channel to be seen as a channel for geeks, losers, and stereotypes, which is why they dropped as much sci-fi stuff as they could and replaced it with wrestling and other shiat.

Compared to that, imitating the current craze isn't too bad. Stupid as shiat, but not as bad.
 
2012-12-18 12:34:34 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DoctorOfLove: you want a hope of survival, choose the M16. Hell, it was designed to wound, not kill, so as to impose medical costs on the opponent.

Not a gun guy but this makes no sense.


he's trying to say that the 7.62×51mm NATO round is designed to wound instead of kill. In reality it's just more efficient than the .30-06 Springfield it replaced.
 
2012-12-18 12:43:14 AM  

log_jammin: 7.62


5.56.
 
2012-12-18 12:49:59 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: log_jammin: 7.62

5.56.


yes
 
2012-12-18 01:06:03 AM  

kg2095: 3StratMan: kg2095: Kuroshin: kg2095: Self Defense? When was the last time any of you gun fetishists ever defended yourself or anyone else with your killing machine?

Five years ago. Wife was being stalked by the director of the movie in which she was starring. He was dangerous and the police wouldn't do anything about him until he actually turned violent. Things went in that direction...

Your move, dipshiat.

OK, lets see a link to the news story where you went all Dirty Harry and killed a bad man. Otherwise, I don't believe you.

Link

The linked story does not appear to have anything at all to do with you or your wife. I think you made that story up.

As for the article, it does give examples of incidents that would have been worse if armed bystanders didn't intervene. But that's precious little comfort to the loved ones of all those killed in temper tantrums that escalated to shootings - road rage for example. Or to those whose children were killed in a game of cops and robbers played with a real gun found under daddy's bed. And those victims far outnumber any saved by non-psychos carrying a weapon.

Among the world's 23 wealthiest countries, 80 percent of all gun deaths are American deaths and 87 percent of all kids killed by guns are American kids.

From here: Gun Deaths: A Familiar American Experience


That is a misleading article since they take the top 23 according to GDP per Capita.

Why is that a big deal, you ask? Well if you take it as just top economy by GDP without the per Capita which adds in a lot of the low population middle eastern countries and you exclude those with huge gun violence issues such as Brazil, which would drastically change the bullshiat they are trying to spout

There are numerous reasons for gun violence, mentally unstable people not getting help and large poor populations in the countries where the top half are rich.

In fact if you take it as just GDP you get only 7 that stay in the top 23 when you do it per Capita
, and drops out places like Mexico who have higher incidents of gun violence than the USA, again do not believe the bullshiat stats some put out, just like michael moore they twist the facts to fit their agenda.
 
2012-12-18 01:11:42 AM  

kg2095: Note that the stats in that article are from the World Health Organization and the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime. I would think these are reputable sources to anyone but the most extreme.


Again, stating legal gun owners and then factoring all kills in a stat that include illegal gun deaths is not the least bit biased at all.........

The biggest issue america has is they spend billions to keep shiat illegal.
 
2012-12-18 01:14:15 AM  
I'm sorry how did this not turn into a Paige Wyatt thread?
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I damn well know no one is watching that show to see old fat guys yell at each other.
 
2012-12-18 02:00:22 AM  
Hey, kg, nice work finding all those stats while I was off in the football thread. Thanks!

kg2095: The United States in 2009 had 3 gun deaths for every 100,000 people over the course of the year, completely eclipsing the next nearest country's rate of .96, coming from Israel, by a wide margin.


This is the one that intrigues me the most. We're over three times as shooty as the nation that's been in a low-level war for decades. I mean, what the hell? (Though they may have us beat in deaths by bomb and/or rocket.)
 
2012-12-18 02:02:11 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Hey, kg, nice work finding all those stats while I was off in the football thread. Thanks!

kg2095: The United States in 2009 had 3 gun deaths for every 100,000 people over the course of the year, completely eclipsing the next nearest country's rate of .96, coming from Israel, by a wide margin.

This is the one that intrigues me the most. We're over three times as shooty as the nation that's been in a low-level war for decades. I mean, what the hell? (Though they may have us beat in deaths by bomb and/or rocket.)


How many Rhode Islands is Israel?
 
2012-12-18 02:28:51 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: How many Rhode Islands is Israel?


About 7, not that it matters. The citation given is shootiness per capita. (Per 100,000 capitas, technically.)
 
2012-12-18 03:12:54 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: StoPPeRmobile: How many Rhode Islands is Israel?

About 7, not that it matters. The citation given is shootiness per capita. (Per 100,000 capitas, technically.)


the citation also appears to be bullshiat.

PDF warning.

page 47, figure 3.7 tells a very different story than the one given.
 
2012-12-18 03:24:23 AM  
That guy is kind of a dick and is extremely unsafe. The show caters to the rich asshole gun enthusiasts though, not the white trash kind. Of course I'm sure it made the white trash kind think they were the rich kind. Anyway, It was probably up for cancellation for some time, they just happened to pull the trigger now and decided to say it's because of the shooting.
 
2012-12-18 03:45:12 AM  

hbk72777: Say bye bye to these shows then

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Yeah, totally the same type of show. Totally!
 
2012-12-18 03:53:02 AM  

DonPeyote: coeyagi: The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.

The should call it a tickle rifle. Because for one nanosecond before massive bone or muscle damage, that's what it does to your body.

And now my penis has a new nickname.


Which one?

Tickle rifle? Massive Bone?

I hear everyone else already calls it nanoseconds.
 
2012-12-18 04:25:49 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: StoPPeRmobile: How many Rhode Islands is Israel?

About 7, not that it matters. The citation given is shootiness per capita. (Per 100,000 capitas, technically.)


Why doesn't it matter?
 
2012-12-18 04:27:55 AM  

3StratMan: SmellsLikePoo: The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.

This should be good... Go on, we're all listening....

What makes a rifle an "assault rifle" anyway?


In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[4][5][6]

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

an AR-15 is an assault rifle and it always has been despite what The Troof hurts and rush limbaugh would have us believe.
 
2012-12-18 04:28:38 AM  
forgot the link

Link
 
2012-12-18 04:37:26 AM  

log_jammin: 3StratMan: SmellsLikePoo: The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.

This should be good... Go on, we're all listening....

What makes a rifle an "assault rifle" anyway?

In a strict definition, a firearm must have at least the following characteristics to be considered an assault rifle:[4][5][6]

It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
It must be capable of selective fire;
It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

an AR-15 is an assault rifle and it always has been despite what The Troof hurts and rush limbaugh would have us believe.


No selective fire on the AR-15. Semi auto only.
 
2012-12-18 04:47:16 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: No selective fire on the AR-15. Semi auto only.


that's because they have to be by law. Pre 1986 have selective fire.

regardless, it is an assault rifle.
 
2012-12-18 06:19:02 AM  
Can we all agree on one thing please: Paige is hawt.

/first time seeing her in this thread
//came for the gun law pontificating, leaving satisfied
 
2012-12-18 06:46:24 AM  
FTA: "Nonetheless this tragedy has as much to do about lawful use of guns as the lawful use of cars has to do with a car bombing."

Cars are not mentioned as a cause in car bombings because the bomb is what causes the explosion and killing power. In this tragedy, like others, the guns are what caused the high death toll. Guns are used because they are easier to acquire and use in a deadly fashion.
 
2012-12-18 06:53:24 AM  

The Troof hurts: Either way it would be nice if the media would stop calling the AR-15 an assault rifle.


Why? it was just used in a petty horrific assault now wasn't it?

Noting akes non-gun people roll their eyes at you faster than this ridiculous obsession with labels and nomenclature
 
2012-12-18 07:34:29 AM  
Yea that daughter is hot

Sad day indeed
 
2012-12-18 08:00:01 AM  
Well, once you start going down this road, where do you draw the line? What about the game assassins creed? It's commercials are of a sniper taking a head shot of some unwitting guy.
 
2012-12-18 08:47:01 AM  

Contents Under Pressure


Skipping over the not-unanticipated derp, I will say that I wish Discover would cancel everything but Mythbusters and Dirty Jobs and start all over again, going back to the original mission statement about it being some kind of learning experience. "Deadliest Catch" has run its course.


Bad news there, dude: it was canceled a few weeks ago. 

www.deadline.com/2012/11/discovery-channels-dirty-jobs-cancelled/
 
2012-12-18 08:55:18 AM  

kg2095: The Troof hurts: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: wildcardjack: orclover: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [www.motherjones.com image 466x625]

/but don't call it a fetish

If I had a bushmaster, this ad would make me want to melt it down out of shame.

It's a toy. Something people dress up and buy all sorts of accessories for. Just because it can put a hole in something it's regarded as a dangerous object.

I can think of some other reasons.

Alcohol kills more people than pistols and rifles in this country. Why the rage about rifles?

Because they are totally unnecessary accessories for people who feel inadequate.

A gun is a machine that is used to kill. Now why would anyone want such a machine unless they were aimin' to do themselves some killin'?

Self Defense? When was the last time any of you gun fetishists ever defended yourself or anyone else with your killing machine?

In case of foreign attack? Your gun is equally useless against ICBMs and 767s.

Guns are for psychos and knobs.


Um, I used my gun to protect myself. Did not have to fire it. Without my gun, I am sure I would have been beaten and robbed at the least. Maybe I would have been killed. I was away from home, so I would have been stranded. But yeah, protecting your own life is completely psychotic.
 
2012-12-18 09:14:55 AM  
But all the other reality shows highlighting and celebrating mental illness for fun and profit get to stay on. Good to know they've focused on the real problem here.
 
2012-12-18 09:37:49 AM  

Mike Chewbacca: Igor Jakovsky: Back in my day (the 80s) DnD and heavy metal music were responsible for violent youth.

If Im going to blame anything other than the shooter it would be our crappy mental healthcare system.

I'm a D&D-playing headbanger, but this post is retarded. Unless you know of a whole bunch of people who were mass murdered by Player's Handbook-wielding madmen?

*book to the neck*

CRIT!


You obviously do not remember the 1980's or you were not born yet. D & D was blamed for deaths as well as Heavy Metal...or has everyone forgot Tipper Gore?
 
2012-12-18 09:40:31 AM  

Tickle Mittens: I'm sorry how did this not turn into a Paige Wyatt thread?
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I damn well know no one is watching that show to see old fat guys yell at each other.


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