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(Wired)   Going beyond Godwin's Law, here's a comprehensive set of rules for ending an argument on the Internet. Argue about them in the link to the right   (wired.com) divider line 6
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2012-12-17 05:31:29 PM
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2012-12-18 03:51:47 PM
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If you claim to have supporting evidence available online, but instead of linking to it you say "Look it up yourself," you lose.

This one is important. It's one thing when it's a news story that's blowing up all over the internet, but when you are citing specific arguments to bolster your facts, but then won't post your sources, it makes all of your credibility go down the drain.

/If you had any left, that is...
2012-12-18 12:37:06 PM
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way south: The simpler theory is best but Occam's razor isn't that theory.


...because Occam's razor is a theorem. Or rather, the crude approximation to the formal math theorem, like "disorder increases" for the theorem about flow mapping of phase spaces underlying the statistical mechanics expression of the second law of thermodynamics.

So, I'd accept an exception to the invocation of Occam's Razor if the invoker is willing to prove the theorem. I'd similarly suggest an exception to someone asserting the burden of proof, provided they accept the burden of proof for the existence and location of a burden of proof.

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: You cannot disprove a negative.


Actually, disproving a negative is easy: provide a positive example.
For example, I can disprove that "there are no black cats with black fur" by providing a cat with black fur.
And I can thus disprove that "You cannot disprove a negative", in providing a positive example of some negative that may be disproven.

Proving a negative is more of a challenge; but is in some cases possible, depending on the sense of the word "prove" used. Insert standard digression to Hume, the Problem of Induction, and resolution thereof....
2012-12-18 05:02:25 AM
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LittleSmitty: The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.


I think you misunderstand. They are talking about INTERNET arguments. no one is EVER right that at any point disagreed with you.
2012-12-17 05:50:06 PM
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The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.
2012-12-17 05:19:00 PM
1 votes:
If you're arguing that your subculture created by a cartoon's marketing department should be treated as Serious Business, you automatically lose.
 
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