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(Wired)   Going beyond Godwin's Law, here's a comprehensive set of rules for ending an argument on the Internet. Argue about them in the link to the right   (wired.com) divider line 134
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2012-12-17 06:28:42 PM
What if I invoke Occam's Razor in regards to arguing with truthers and other conspiracy theorists, along with its corollary Hanlon's Razor? I think that should be an exception to the rule.
 
2012-12-17 06:31:44 PM
Proper use of Occam's Razor:

"Give the choice between assholes in airplanes and a giant government conspiracy involving Xenu, the Illuminati, and the Jews, I'm going with Occam's Razor and select the assholes in airplanes."
 
2012-12-17 06:49:02 PM

stewbert: timujin: Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.

No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.

Whatever, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not your personal research service.


Just keep standing up that straw man.
 
2012-12-17 06:51:39 PM

minoridiot: stewbert: timujin: Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.

No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.

Whatever, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not your personal research service.

The Monty Python reference is lost on some folks.


No, but some aren't a slave to it, either. And your ad hominem attack is unwarranted, moran.
 
2012-12-17 06:52:17 PM
Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics.

Even if you win, you're still retarded.

(Can't be bothered looking up the .jpg version of this quote, but it seemed appropriate)
 
2012-12-17 06:52:50 PM
Why? Because fark you, that's why.
 
2012-12-17 07:00:20 PM

CokeBear: Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics.

Even if you win, you're still retarded.

(Can't be bothered looking up the .jpg version of this quote, but it seemed appropriate)


specialolympicswinner.jpg
 
2012-12-17 07:02:35 PM
I've both won and lost arguments on the internet before. It can be done. It's usually when someone is making a point based on something that is false, yet can be easily looked up by the other party. If you're talking about a debate on religion or something, you can't seem to win those arguments in real life anyways so what is the point of even addressing it?

Anyways, when like 5 other people in the thread start dog piling someone after a slip up, that is usually when it's considered over
 
2012-12-17 07:04:52 PM
i thought the proper way to win an internet argument was:

i11.photobucket.com 


/prove me wrong?
 
2012-12-17 07:08:21 PM
IMHO, The best argument enders are when you, as someone's vile adversary, announce that you would like to hang around and discuss things, but you have to go to you child's recital, or some other familial/human obligation. Instead of being cussed out of the thread, you very possibly will get "Ok, hope he/she does well."
 
2012-12-17 07:13:44 PM

Meerlar: i thought the proper way to win an internet argument was:

 


/prove me wrong?


Only if your hair is a bird.
 
2012-12-17 07:28:28 PM
I've found that if I post in all caps, my opponent usually gets the hint that I know my shiat and will generally back off.
 
2012-12-17 07:30:45 PM

SineSwiper: [www.criticalgamers.com image 260x260] 

/the game
/you lost it


Dick, didn't even need slashies I knew what you were doing.

/I use that exact pic at work to a supervisor every now and then
 
2012-12-17 07:31:41 PM
The "win" is an illusion for the lurkers.
 
2012-12-17 07:31:44 PM

TheSwizz: Meerlar: i thought the proper way to win an internet argument was:

 


/prove me wrong?

Only if your hair is a bird.


Or if your beard is a windmill
 
2012-12-17 07:37:17 PM

Anderson's Pooper: Wow, Lore Sjoberg still exists. Who knew?



/Still misses brunching shuttlecocks.


Came here to say this.

/Ed's World was the best
 
2012-12-17 07:37:34 PM
img404.imageshack.us
 
2012-12-17 07:37:58 PM
There is no winning an argument on the Internet. The only winning move is not to play.

/you know how sure you are you are right and he's wrong and you're going to convince him with your next brilliant argument or piece of evidence? He thinks that, too.
 
2012-12-17 07:49:54 PM

js34603: There is no winning an argument on the Internet. The only winning move is not to play.

/you know how sure you are you are right and he's wrong and you're going to convince him with your next brilliant argument or piece of evidence? He thinks that, too.


Sometimes it's like chess, though. You make a few sacrifices.
 
2012-12-17 07:52:43 PM
I usually steer the argument with my friends such that the argument itself is the premise and say "The fact that youre still arguing just proves my point." then refuse to say anything else on the subject.
 
2012-12-17 07:55:03 PM
If you're caught reading the rules doesn't that mean you owe everyone in the hooch a beer?
 
2012-12-17 08:04:39 PM
minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

MaudlinMutantMollusk : Are too


Hey guys, this is the multiverse, we're all right / wrong in some dimension somewhere.
 
2012-12-17 08:13:44 PM
Obvious Straw-Man. Didnt read that terrible Red Herring
 
2012-12-17 08:32:47 PM
WTF is with this new ad thingie?
 
2012-12-17 08:36:58 PM
Know who else liked to end arguments?
 
2012-12-17 08:39:06 PM
I am a huge fan of the Hal 9000 method of conflict resolution. I'm serious, watch 2001: A Space Odyssey, and then anytime anyone in your life causes you grief, ask yourself WWH9D? You'll hate yourself for not behaving this way sooner.

www.ozsticker.com
 
2012-12-17 08:40:10 PM

Meerlar: i thought the proper way to win an internet argument was:

i11.photobucket.com


/prove me wrong?


i.qkme.me
 
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2012-12-17 08:46:47 PM

mercator_psi: db2: Nine comments with no mention of Monty Python? Huh.

It's been meta-mentioned. Please try to keep up with the group.


No it hasn't.
 
2012-12-17 09:05:47 PM
Ya know who else had a final solution to internet arguments?
 
2012-12-17 09:12:50 PM
Just tell everyone that you are a runner in the Special Olympics. You win automatically.
 
2012-12-17 09:14:54 PM

RedVentrue: Ya know who else had a final solution to internet arguments?


You know who else didn't read the headline?

/zipdog and OgreMagi, that's who
 
2012-12-17 09:31:54 PM

WippitGuud: [i.chzbgr.com image 492x430]


" I rabbit sandcastle"?????

WTF?
 
2012-12-17 09:34:13 PM

RedVentrue: Ya know who else had a final solution to internet arguments?


Study up on it.
 
2012-12-17 09:47:12 PM
That was a horrible article.

Look it up yourself.
 
2012-12-17 09:48:24 PM
FTFA:* If you claim to be winning, you lose.

Explaining why the Republican Party lost the last election... and all that other stuff...
 
2012-12-17 10:06:46 PM

downstairs: That whole thing was a red herring!


No, communism was a red herring.
 
2012-12-17 10:07:00 PM

I drunk what: minoridiot: The Monty Python reference is lost on some folks

no it isn't

/ni


End the argument by invoking a simple logic test. The winner takes all. 

//or perhaps the one who produces....a shrubbery!
 
2012-12-17 10:31:45 PM
RIP MAZeR RACKHAM
 
2012-12-17 10:37:52 PM

StoPPeRmobile: WTF is with this new ad thingie?

So we're asking please...help us pay our bills. Whitelist us in your adblocking plugin. In Adblock Plus, you can select "Disable on fark.com" from your Adblock Plus menu. If you can't figure out how to whitelist Fark, please send us a "Tech question" Farkback.


Or you could clickie on the link to find out.

If none are animated I might consider it.

altscreen.com

altscreen.com
 
2012-12-17 10:51:13 PM
Is there an argument on the Internet that hasn't been done over 9000 times? No one ever "wins". Maybe I'm just on Fark too much.

/atheism is a religion
 
2012-12-17 10:58:59 PM
I have learned that describing a position as "common sense" is often considered a meaningful means of ending an argument by implying objectors to lack "common sense" regardless of any actual facts presented. As examples: "common sense" dictates that unions of one-man and one-woman are the only natural unions that have any benefit to society, thus "common sense" dictates that such unions be the only unions granted any legal recognition. Obviously, if you disagree with that position, you lack "common sense" and thus should not be regarded as credibel.
 
2012-12-17 11:25:54 PM

saturn badger: StoPPeRmobile: WTF is with this new ad thingie?

So we're asking please...help us pay our bills. Whitelist us in your adblocking plugin. In Adblock Plus, you can select "Disable on fark.com" from your Adblock Plus menu. If you can't figure out how to whitelist Fark, please send us a "Tech question" Farkback.

Or you could clickie on the link to find out.

If none are animated I might consider it.

[altscreen.com image 640x360]

[altscreen.com image 640x360]


Oddly enough the div itself: "abPleaBar" is easily blocked...
 
2012-12-17 11:26:28 PM
DIAF
 
2012-12-17 11:27:16 PM
EABOD
 
2012-12-17 11:59:15 PM

sprawl15: If you're arguing that your subculture created by a cartoon's marketing department should be treated as Serious Business, you automatically lose.


As a borderline member of that subculture, I emphatically agree with you.
 
2012-12-18 12:08:22 AM
why is this under Geek?

It should be under Main so more people will see it.
 
2012-12-18 12:18:06 AM
If you invoke the name of a logical fallacy without explaining its relevance, you lose.

Logical fallacies are not Harry Potter spells. You don't just get to shout them out and wiggle your wand to make magic happen. Plus, there's a logical meta-fallacy: Just because someone's making an error in reasoning doesn't mean they're wrong.



Wow, this one I run across all the time from liberal farkers and it really annoys me. It annoys me so much that I started using it just so I could annoy liberal farkers. I will now try to stop using it, but usually when I see someone point of the name of a logical fallacy without saying why it is one or explaining its relevance, 9 times out of 10 it's from someone I disagree with.
 
2012-12-18 12:26:54 AM

StoPPeRmobile: WTF is with this new ad thingie?


Unsure. Not like I am gonna click on any ad I see here, so why see them at all? Or does Fark somehow get money for merely displaying them?
 
2012-12-18 12:50:59 AM

ArcadianRefugee: StoPPeRmobile: WTF is with this new ad thingie?

Unsure. Not like I am gonna click on any ad I see here, so why see them at all? Or does Fark somehow get money for merely displaying them?


I couldn't figure out a way to make it go away. I had to click on another part of the site.
 
2012-12-18 12:59:56 AM
What a shiatty article.
 
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