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(Wired)   Going beyond Godwin's Law, here's a comprehensive set of rules for ending an argument on the Internet. Argue about them in the link to the right   (wired.com) divider line 134
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2012-12-17 02:15:29 PM  
Looks like "your mom" jokes are still fair game!
 
2012-12-17 02:50:39 PM  

NowhereMon: Looks like "your mom" jokes are still fair game!


Discussing the rules = you lose.

/ Some guy who may or may not have looked a lot like Charlie Chaplain might have thought your mom was great last night.
 
2012-12-17 03:10:44 PM  
Honey Boo Boo frowns on your shenanigans
 
2012-12-17 03:19:23 PM  
I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.
 
2012-12-17 04:52:00 PM  

minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.


Are too
 
2012-12-17 05:00:39 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too


An argument isn't just contradiction.
 
2012-12-17 05:06:43 PM  

minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.


It is too.
 
2012-12-17 05:10:21 PM  

Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.


No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.
 
2012-12-17 05:17:20 PM  
-whtvr
-you sound poor
-i joined fark in 1972
-i oiled my generator up
 
2012-12-17 05:19:00 PM  
If you're arguing that your subculture created by a cartoon's marketing department should be treated as Serious Business, you automatically lose.
 
db2
2012-12-17 05:19:16 PM  
Nine comments with no mention of Monty Python? Huh.
 
2012-12-17 05:21:05 PM  
Thinking of The Game = you lose
 
2012-12-17 05:21:23 PM  
That whole thing was a red herring!
 
2012-12-17 05:21:53 PM  
Logical fallacies are not Harry Potter spells. You don't just get to shout them out and wiggle your wand to make magic happen.

But wouldn't it be fun if they were? "Appeal to authority! Straw man! Ad hominem!"
 
2012-12-17 05:22:13 PM  

db2: Nine comments with no mention of Monty Python? Huh.


It's been meta-mentioned. Please try to keep up with the group.
 
2012-12-17 05:22:30 PM  

BKITU: Thinking of The Game = you lose


Godamitsomuch
 
2012-12-17 05:25:17 PM  
My hair is a bird.
Your argument, is invalid.
 
2012-12-17 05:25:31 PM  
You know who else liked to end arguments on the internet?
 
2012-12-17 05:26:13 PM  
Subby is Hitler, and that article was worse than the Holocaust.
 
2012-12-17 05:26:39 PM  
If you really care about these things, you're lost.
 
2012-12-17 05:26:56 PM  
I thought admitting defeat was winning, because then you get to move on with your life, where as continuing to pursue a pointless argument occupies too much of your life.
 
2012-12-17 05:31:29 PM  
img.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-17 05:31:57 PM  

wildcardjack: [img.photobucket.com image 360x290]


Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-17 05:38:24 PM  
* If you make a reference to Honey Boo Boo, you lose.

There's no rhetorical basis for this, I'm just freaking tired of hearing about Honey Boo-Boo.


Looks like he just lost at the rules. Only on the internet.
 
2012-12-17 05:39:12 PM  
Oh and if you can't figure out HTML bullet points and you make a living writing on the internet, you lose.
 
2012-12-17 05:40:20 PM  
NO U
 
2012-12-17 05:40:43 PM  

Haliburton Cummings: -i joined fark in 1972


This one is my favorite. I looked up your account profile, Mitt Wrongney! You started posting this year, so you must be a troll!
 
2012-12-17 05:42:35 PM  
Wow, Lore Sjoberg still exists. Who knew?



/Still misses brunching shuttlecocks.
 
2012-12-17 05:44:00 PM  
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-17 05:44:09 PM  

timujin: Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.

No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.


Whatever, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not your personal research service.
 
ecl
2012-12-17 05:45:32 PM  
Smiting people with insults is still a go right?
 
2012-12-17 05:45:52 PM  
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2012-12-17 05:45:56 PM  
www.criticalgamers.com 

/the game
/you lost it
 
2012-12-17 05:49:56 PM  
My rules:

1) don't repeat yourself. if you're saying the same thing again you're wasting your time, the other people involved aren't paying attention to your words anyways. at the best say "see my previous post" but honestly even this isn't worth the little effort it takes.

2) don't chase moving goalposts. given a chance someone backed up to the wall with facts will merrily have you discussing the futility of penny production in the US when the original topic was concealed carry permits. either steer back onto topic or ignore the off-topic ramblings.

3) 99% of the internet is just trolling out of boredom. if you're going to entertain someone at least get paid for it.
 
2012-12-17 05:50:06 PM  
The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.
 
2012-12-17 05:52:33 PM  
FTFA: If you invoke Occam's Razor, or "the burden of proof," you lose.

Really? Every time? So, if some conspiracy kook starts spouting nonsense about the CIA using alien technology recovered from Roswell to bring down the Towers in order to appease Xenu and begin a New World Order in the name of Obama, and a sane person mentions that Occam's Razor shiats all over their theory and calls it a dirty whore, the sane person loses?
 
2012-12-17 05:52:45 PM  
This should be stickies in the politics tab.
 
2012-12-17 05:53:36 PM  

stewbert: timujin: Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.

No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.

Whatever, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not your personal research service.


The Monty Python reference is lost on some folks.
 
2012-12-17 05:57:45 PM  

LittleSmitty: The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.


Doesn't that qualify as having the last word?
 
2012-12-17 05:59:35 PM  
i71.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-17 06:00:14 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: FTFA: If you invoke Occam's Razor, or "the burden of proof," you lose.

Really? Every time? So, if some conspiracy kook starts spouting nonsense about the CIA using alien technology recovered from Roswell to bring down the Towers in order to appease Xenu and begin a New World Order in the name of Obama, and a sane person mentions that Occam's Razor shiats all over their theory and calls it a dirty whore, the sane person loses?


I think they mean that it isn't proof of anything.
It's like we argue about Jesus riding a dinosaur and you close it by saying "...but, SCIENCE!".

Science is a method. The fossil record or some bible verse may be proof (such as it is), but the means for divining that proof isn't a conclusion on its own.

The simpler theory is best but Occam's razor isn't that theory.
 
2012-12-17 06:02:53 PM  

minoridiot: stewbert: timujin: Coolfusis: minoridiot: MaudlinMutantMollusk: minoridiot: I don't need to argue -- I'm never wrong.

Are too

An argument isn't just contradiction.

It is too.

No it's not. I don't have time to prove it, though, just look it up.

Whatever, the burden of proof is on you. I'm not your personal research service.

The Monty Python reference is lost on some folks.


Sheesh... no kidding
 
2012-12-17 06:05:25 PM  

I Like Bread: LittleSmitty: The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.

Doesn't that qualify as having the last word?


Sometimes, but that's not the point. Some people aren't prepared for that response and you sometimes end up with the last word. But the flipside is the "I told you so" response. But as long as you can hold your tongue while they gloat, the argument is essentially over.
 
2012-12-17 06:05:34 PM  

minoridiot: The Monty Python reference is lost on some folks


no it isn't

/ni
 
2012-12-17 06:08:23 PM  
imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-12-17 06:11:41 PM  
I didn't see the just shutting down the computer to go out drinking option, I have been using that option quite a bit.lately. Too much time wasted arguing with people to lazy to look it up themselves.....
 
2012-12-17 06:13:02 PM  

LittleSmitty: The fastest way to end and argument is to say "you're right". You don't "win", but it takes the wind out of their sails because they have no ground to argue at that point.

I used that tactic a lot. It works great unless you are the type that needs to have the last word.


You're right
 
2012-12-17 06:17:11 PM  
I like how young wipersnapper want to make rules.

fark you! The game has already started. And no time outs!
 
2012-12-17 06:22:33 PM  
The only winning move is not to play.
 
2012-12-17 06:27:20 PM  

wildcardjack: [img.photobucket.com image 360x290]


This is what I get for just ctrl+f searching for the quote...
 
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