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(AL.com)   Lost film surfaces showing Satchel Paige pitching in 1948. Don't look back. Something might be gaining on you   (al.com) divider line 47
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2012-12-17 12:19:21 PM  
Don't eat fried meat, it angries up the blood.

If your stomach disputes, slow it down with your brain.
 
2012-12-17 12:24:32 PM  
God, look at his motion. It's magnificent.
 
2012-12-17 12:27:35 PM  
Pretty sure I heard a story where one time he was facing Josh Gibson, and sent the entire team except the catcher to the dugout and then K'd Gibson.


/i know, Bill Brasky territory but i think i heard that story once.
 
2012-12-17 12:28:05 PM  
Hurley bird
 
2012-12-17 12:35:54 PM  

Rincewind53: God, look at his motion. It's magnificent.


It is, but unfortunately we only see a couple of pitches, and only get a good view of his motion on one pitch. The guy taking the video was obviously more interested in capturing footage of random pretty girls in the stands than filming Paige's pitches. Ordinarily, I would understand this tactic, but this time it's a shame that more of his pitching wasn't captured.

And it's worth noting that the guy was 42 when this video was taken (though he pitched for many more years after that). Imagine what he pitched like in his late 20s or so.
 
2012-12-17 12:36:37 PM  
Paige was the man who should have been the one to break the race barrier in baseball. He was less high strung and much more mature than Jackie Robinson.
 
2012-12-17 12:54:08 PM  

Cyberluddite: Rincewind53: God, look at his motion. It's magnificent.

It is, but unfortunately we only see a couple of pitches, and only get a good view of his motion on one pitch. The guy taking the video was obviously more interested in capturing footage of random pretty girls in the stands than filming Paige's pitches. Ordinarily, I would understand this tactic, but this time it's a shame that more of his pitching wasn't captured.

And it's worth noting that the guy was 42 when this video was taken (though he pitched for many more years after that). Imagine what he pitched like in his late 20s or so.


Exactly. It must have been amazing. He's incredibly fluid, the way he brings his arm around is a beauty to watch.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:49 PM  
for some reason, I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around color video taken in the 40s
 
2012-12-17 01:30:51 PM  

The Bestest: for some reason, I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around color video taken in the 40s


Why? There's plenty of color footage of World War II.
 
2012-12-17 01:32:41 PM  

The Bestest: for some reason, I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around color video taken in the 40s



well i can tell SOMEONE has never seen "The Wizard Of Oz".

no nmaes mentioned, LollipopGuildMitter.
 
2012-12-17 01:38:46 PM  

Rincewind53: Why? There's plenty of color footage of World War II.


Yeah, but the vast bulk of WW2 footage is B&W

rickythepenguin: well i can tell SOMEONE has never seen "The Wizard Of Oz".


Wizard of Oz was a big Hollywood production though. This video has a "some dude at the ballpark with a camera" feel, and maybe that's what's jarring to me (yeah, I know the article says it was taken by a studio exec, and thus had access to a really nice camera, but still..)
 
2012-12-17 01:39:53 PM  
Mobile has more baseball Hall of Fame inductees than any city except NY & Chicago

/Woot Mobtown
 
2012-12-17 01:51:26 PM  
Seems like a very similar windup to Mariano Rivera.
 
2012-12-17 02:08:33 PM  
if not for the color barrier its very possible that to this day Satchel Paige would own many of the pitching records in MLB.
 
2012-12-17 02:25:37 PM  

The Bestest: for some reason, I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around color video taken in the 40s


You don't see much of it because most people couldn't afford it. Kodachrome movie film was extraordinarily expensive, especially before 1954.
 
2012-12-17 02:27:36 PM  

grimlock1972: if not for the color barrier its very possible that to this day Satchel Paige would own many of the pitching records in MLB.


and Babe Ruth would have like, 400HRs. if that.
 
2012-12-17 02:28:45 PM  

grimlock1972: if not for the color barrier its very possible that to this day Satchel Paige would own many of the pitching records in MLB.


That's debatable but given that he performed decently against MLB competition well into his 40's it stands to reason that he'd have been a standout pitcher at the least when he was 25-35. Apparently Dimaggio said he was the best he'd seen.
 
2012-12-17 02:56:27 PM  

grimlock1972: if not for the color barrier its very possible that to this day Satchel Paige would own many of the pitching records in MLB.


And if Sadaharu Oh played in the US, he'd have hit 500/1,500 HRs.

// speculation is fun
// sad about Satch
// learned about him at a young age, in a book called "Bad Luck Stars of Sports"
// first story was about a bullfighter who got gored "from groin to neck" after some pretty horrible luck (as if that wasn't enough)
 
2012-12-17 03:03:40 PM  

grimlock1972: if not for the color barrier its very possible that to this day Satchel Paige would own many of the pitching records in MLB.


and Josh Gibson would make people say "Babe who?" which makes me wonder why we care about baseball records from the pre-integration era when the best players were clearly not playing in the white major leagues
 
2012-12-17 03:09:49 PM  
If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.
 
2012-12-17 03:15:35 PM  

Bob_Laublaw: Don't eat fried meat, it angries up the blood.

If your stomach disputes, slow it down with your brain.


Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gently as you move.
 
2012-12-17 03:22:43 PM  

SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.


You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

content9.flixster.com

/www.myremoteradio.com
 
2012-12-17 03:26:08 PM  
GET HIM FOR MY COMPANY SOFTBALL TEAM!
 
2012-12-17 03:26:45 PM  

dallylamma: SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.

You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

[content9.flixster.com image 180x206]

/[www.myremoteradio.com image 300x265]


I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.
 
2012-12-17 03:30:34 PM  
It was shot in color, but the actual game was black and white.
 
2012-12-17 03:42:38 PM  

SuperT: dallylamma: SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.

You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

[content9.flixster.com image 180x206]

/[www.myremoteradio.com image 300x265]

I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.


That's a tough one, maybe game 7 of the 1955 WS to see the Dodges beat the Yankees or game 5 in 1956 to see Larsen throw his perfect game.
 
2012-12-17 03:53:37 PM  

dallylamma: SuperT: dallylamma: SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.

You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

[content9.flixster.com image 180x206]

/[www.myremoteradio.com image 300x265]

I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.

That's a tough one, maybe game 7 of the 1955 WS to see the Dodges beat the Yankees or game 5 in 1956 to see Larsen throw his perfect game.


My Pop has The New York Daily News from the day after Larsons' perfecto.
I would like to go back to Reggies 3 homer game 6.1977.
 
2012-12-17 04:11:13 PM  

mikemoto: Paige was the man who should have been the one to break the race barrier in baseball. He was less high strung and much more mature than Jackie Robinson.


Jackie didn't have Satch's ego, though.


rickythepenguin: Pretty sure I heard a story where one time he was facing Josh Gibson, and sent the entire team except the catcher to the dugout and then K'd Gibson.


/i know, Bill Brasky territory but i think i heard that story once.


He'd also have the team sit down in the field.
 
2012-12-17 04:47:44 PM  
That was incredibly relaxing to watch.
 
2012-12-17 04:52:25 PM  

dallylamma: SuperT: dallylamma: SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.

You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

[content9.flixster.com image 180x206]

/[www.myremoteradio.com image 300x265]

I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.

That's a tough one, maybe game 7 of the 1955 WS to see the Dodges beat the Yankees or game 5 in 1956 to see Larsen throw his perfect game.


Game 8 of the 1919 World Series. As a Reds fan I have an obvious interest but also to see Shoeless Joe Jackson play live and maybe see for myself if he was dogging it like the other Black Sox or not. My feeling is he was clean based on what evidence has come to light since then but hard to say for sure. This is also one of the last times a World Series went to 8 games before the 7 game limit was instituted in 1922.

Lots of history wrapped up in just 1 game there.
 
2012-12-17 05:12:59 PM  

SuperT: dallylamma: SuperT: If I had a time machine, aside from making myself rich beyond reason, I would use it to just go watch ball games. I'd love to see a 25 year old paige pitch.

You could go forward too and see Buck Bokai break records...

[content9.flixster.com image 180x206]

/[www.myremoteradio.com image 300x265]

I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.


Len Barker's perfect game at Municipal Stadium in 1981. I'd want to see how many of the 200,000 people who claimed to be there were actually there.
 
2012-12-17 05:22:37 PM  

Rincewind53: God, look at his motion. It's magnificent.


Paige is the one guy I would love to go back in time and see. The dude was basically unhittable and threw every pitch in the book at some point in his career. The dude had a pitch called the "Two Hump Blooper." How could any baseball fan not want to see WFT a Two Hump Blooper looked like?
 
2012-12-17 05:29:02 PM  

W.C.fields forever:

My Pop has The New York Daily News from the day after Larsons' perfecto.
I would like to go back to Reggies 3 homer game 6.1977.


I watched that on the tube. Same with Gibson's shot off of Eckersly in '88. They were both awesome, but I guess because I can get on the Youtube and watch them whenever I want, in full technicolor, from a couple of different angles, they don't have the same mystique as some of the other legendary acts of baseball history.

Personally, I'd like to go back in time to 1894 and see John McGraw start the fight with the Beaneaters that ended up burning down half of Boston.

Good times... good times....
 
2012-12-17 05:34:26 PM  
I'd definitely hit up some of the post season barnstorming games which featured MLB all-stars and some of the negro league players and some Hank Greenberg games at Tiger Stadium with my Dad.
 
2012-12-17 06:33:26 PM  
The one thing I miss about the past is the cigarette smoke everywhere. I'm serious, it makes everything look just a little bit pretty, a layer of atmosphere can do a lot to make the world seem bigger.
 
2012-12-17 07:46:06 PM  
I think it is funny how people dressed up to go to a ball game.

Too bad the the person did not realize the significance of his video although I think one of the women shown is an actress.
 
2012-12-17 07:51:37 PM  

Jeep2011: I think it is funny how people dressed up to go to a ball game.

Too bad the the person did not realize the significance of his video although I think one of the women shown is an actress.


I was wondering about the old man and her.Looked at it again,it looks like her pop.Same eyes.
Maybe I'm wrong.
 
2012-12-17 08:05:37 PM  

W.C.fields forever: Jeep2011: I think it is funny how people dressed up to go to a ball game.

Too bad the the person did not realize the significance of his video although I think one of the women shown is an actress.

I was wondering about the old man and her.Looked at it again,it looks like her pop.Same eyes.
Maybe I'm wrong.


She does look familiar. The older guy does too.
 
2012-12-17 08:24:36 PM  

SuperT: I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.


Dock Ellis' no-hitter on acid.
 
2012-12-17 08:27:05 PM  
Went back and looked.They do look familiar..Also the first fan they show,when they pan
away from him,I swear its Gene Hackman.
 
2012-12-17 08:29:41 PM  

oh_please: SuperT: I lol'd. but seriously, if you could only attend one baseball game from the past, which would it be? I think mine would be game 3 of the '32 WS. I have to know what babe was pointing at, for sure.

Dock Ellis' no-hitter on acid.


Yeah..I might juss smoke a little weed tho.
 
2012-12-17 08:47:04 PM  

W.C.fields forever: Went back and looked.They do look familiar..Also the first fan they show,when they pan
away from him,I swear its Gene Hackman.


From the comments on the article:

"Dano16 2 months ago

Yes, that's L.B. Mayer, and the man sitting next to him appears to be MGM producer Arthur Freed. The man and woman sitting in front of Mayer seem to be his son-in-law, producer Bill Goetz,, and one of Goetz's teenage daughters (and Mayer's granddaughter) Judy or Barbara. Don't recognize the others, though.
· in reply to mrvandyke(Show the comment) "
 
2012-12-17 08:48:40 PM  

Dear Jerk: It was shot in color, but the actual game was black and white.


picayune.uclick.com 

/truth is stranger than fiction!
 
2012-12-18 12:10:14 AM  

W.C.fields forever: I swear its Gene Hackman.


I wouldn't be surprised - he used to be in everything. I was watching old home movies of my wife's first birthday and BAM! He had a cameo by the swingset.
 
2012-12-18 02:11:21 AM  
It's probably an obvious choice but I'd like to go back and see the Babe Ruth "called shot" game in the 1932 World Series if only to find out if he really did that or not.

Bob_Laublaw: W.C.fields forever: I swear its Gene Hackman.

I wouldn't be surprised - he used to be in everything. I was watching old home movies of my wife's first birthday and BAM! He had a cameo by the swingset.


And not only that, he probably looked the same as he does today.

Seriously though, Gene Hackman is one of those actors who's always looked perpetually middle-aged.
 
2012-12-18 02:26:43 AM  
It's tempting to compare players from different eras but things have changed quite a bit.

Thank you, subby, that's a much appreciated find.
 
2012-12-18 01:08:56 PM  
'76. Wed. night game, Mark Fidrych on the mound. The Tigers were dead back then and you could get a seat almost anywhere for any game. Not that night though, 50,000+ watched The Bird pitch. Unless you went to a game he pitched you could never appreciate the insanity of it all. Tigers won on a 4 hitter by Fid I believe. No body would leave after the game, goose bump stuff.

/Plus it was the last game I ever attended with my dad who was just getting to old to get around anymore. He wanted to see The Bird though.
 
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