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(Chicago Sun-Times)   "I was just bluffing," says man with 47 guns who said he was going to shoot up a school. Notice the lack of laughter and amusement from your antics, sir   (suntimes.com) divider line 188
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2012-12-17 01:21:06 PM
Mass murderers never bluff. They just do their deed and leave everyone wondering "WFT?" Nonetheless, asswipe just learned that just saying such a thing is a terroristic threat and can end in your getting a job as a salad tosser.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:21:10 PM

snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.


Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?
 
2012-12-17 01:22:58 PM

D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?


At least one more, as always. 47 isn't hard to come by if you own several different calibers of pistol and rifle. You can figure 2 rifles and 2 pistols for each caliber. One for hunting and general target practice and one for competitive shooting. Then you can start figuring for black powder as well.

Pistols:
.22
.38
.357
.40
.44
.45
.50
9mm
10mm

9 calibers, 18 pistols.

Rifles
.22 varmint gun
.30-06 deer rifle
.300 elk rifle
.30-30 general purpose hunting
.44 large game rifle i.e. bear

5 calibers, 10 rifles. Possibly more if you own extras for your kids

Shotguns:
.410
22ga
20ga
12ga pump action
12ga break action

5 shotguns - no difference for competition

Blackpowder pistol
.38 pepperbox
.44 hand cannon
.50 hand cannon
.58 hand cannon
.32 derringer

5 pistols - no difference for competition or plinking

Blackpowder rifle
.44 Henry rifle
.50 brush gun
.54 brush gun
.58 long rifle

4 rifles - no difference for competition or plinking

That's 42 right there and that's just the basics. Notice the lack of any of the "scary looking guns" the media talks about. No .223, no AK-47, no SKS. These are just the basics for hunting game.

No mention of additional weapons for other members of your family. That also does not include any air rifles and pistols that may be used for inexpensive target practice. Weapons are no different than mechanic's tools. Each has a particular use.
 
2012-12-17 01:23:12 PM
Sorry, I can't comment on this until I know the exact make and model of each of his 47 guns.
 
2012-12-17 01:23:18 PM
I chuckled.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:28 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: snocone: [2] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[3]

Put a folding stock on my 22 250 bolt action rifle and you have an "assault" weapon.

How about a compass or a bottle opener?

/so want a bottler opener
// Now I really want to watch Deal of the Century again


You want a Galil assault rifle, which has a bottle opener.

The weapon features a bottle opener in the front handguard and wire cutter built into the bipod. The bottle opener feature was included to prevent damage to magazines being used to open bottles, due to the large civilian reservist components of the IDF. Use of magazines to open bottles was a common source of magazine lip damage with Uzi submachine guns. Wire cutters were included to reduce the time necessary for IDF troops to cut down wire fences common to rural areas in Israel.

Note that the Galil is an actual assault rifle, not a pretend, military-looking semiautomatic rifle, which are currently popular in the US.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:35 PM
Don't worry, FARK will be telling the same "jokes" in a month and everyone will think they're awesome.

/hopefully not.
/feh, who am I kidding.
 
2012-12-17 01:25:06 PM
lol lol, very funny you farking shiatface dirtbag, rot in a farking cold cell and enjoy the complimentary ass banging.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:17 PM

vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?


They don't exist in this story.
Most states do not define an AR-15 as a assault weapon. Commonly for sale, cheap.
IRL, it is a POS that every noob seems to want in his collection. Like a BMW.
At least this shooter knew how to clear it, a necessary skill if you use the thing.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:19 PM

snocone: skullkrusher: maachubo: pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

I know! Living in a free society IS awesome! But don't worry, we'll be getting rid of it soon enough.

your current legal arsenal will not be enough to overthrow a tyrant. Owning guns is nothing at all about maintaining a free society anymore

Once upon a time tyrants cut fingers off to prevent citizens bearing the assault weapons of the day.
Did not work then, weapon control still will not work.

THE PROBLEM IS THE HUMAN, NOT THE WEAPON
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, you weak frightened fools.
Remote control will not make you safe. Not ever. Safety is your own job. Learn how.


hmm... I thought it was a combination of the two. See, I am not worried that some deranged lunatic will break into my son's school swinging his fists wildly.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:48 PM

D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?


If someone had 47 Camaros or Mustangs, you'd hopefully be asking the same question. Collectors will be collectors. However collectors of firearms owe it to themselves, their families, and to the community to keep the weapons they aren't using for home defense locked in a safe and most importantly don't go around bragging about their arsenal or making idle threats.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:58 PM

vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?


Before you can ban or control anything at the Federal level some definitions must be made solid. A single clear, final definition.

Things that need definition by the Federal govt in relation to firearms:

1) assault weapon
2) automatic weapon
3) high capacity magazine

That should be a start...

...and no we dont care what you Farkers define those as, your not the Federal govt.
 
2012-12-17 01:29:13 PM

vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?


Assault rifles exist. But they are not semi-automatic.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:29:28 PM

snocone: skullkrusher: maachubo: pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

I know! Living in a free society IS awesome! But don't worry, we'll be getting rid of it soon enough.

your current legal arsenal will not be enough to overthrow a tyrant. Owning guns is nothing at all about maintaining a free society anymore

Once upon a time tyrants cut fingers off to prevent citizens bearing the assault weapons of the day.
Did not work then, weapon control still will not work.

THE PROBLEM IS THE HUMAN, NOT THE WEAPON
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, you weak frightened fools.
Remote control will not make you safe. Not ever. Safety is your own job. Learn how.


Well, what do you suggest we do about people like you? There are too many of you to lock up.
 
2012-12-17 01:29:59 PM

D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?


Well, it depends what you're into guns for.

Those that like historical guns could have any number, because they're basically building a private museum. They'll be the guys that stockpile 6.5x51 Arisaka ammo, because, really, it's not like the original manufacturer is in business any more. They'll also be the ones with 25 different 1911 pistols from WW2, but each one made at a different factory in a different year.

The guy interested in the mechanical side of firearms will have a lot of guns, each with a different operating mechanism, different recoil systems, lever action and pump action, probably even some wheellocks or other primitive ignition system.

Hunters may have just their one gun for deer season, or they may have guns set up for all the different things they hunt. Hunting ducks isn't even the same skill set as hunting deer, beyond the very basics.

If you're into sport shooting like IPSC or IDPA, you'll have your main competition gun, your backup competition gun, last years comp gun, the new fangled thing you're trying out, a couple stock guns, and variations on magazine capacity so you can do unlimited and limited matches.

If you're doing three-gun, you're like the IPSC guy, except you've repeated the same pattern in rifles and shotguns.

If you're doing Olympic shooting, you'll have your super specialized competition rifle, and back-up after back-up set up the same way. You'll probably have other guns so you can shoot for fun on occasion, just for variety.

If you're in a shooting family, everyone in your family may have their own rifle, shotgun, or pistol, as appropriate to their age and shooting skill, and then you'll still have all the guns the kids outgrow. My own daughter has her pink .22LR AR-15, and it a couple years she'll be ready to start shooting .223, and her upper will get the pink stripped off it and replaced with something that won't embarrass her little brother.

If you're a farmer or rancher, you'll have the work-gun for killing varmints, and maybe something bigger for feral hogs, backed up by a magnum revolver if that big boar gets close.

Concealed carriers will have a smaller pistol for summertime carry, and something a bit larger for when the clothing is heavier and doesn't print. You may also have all the guns you've carried for a while until something new and better came along.

Everyone will have the 1911 or revolver their grand-father left them in the will. I have family members that have just turned a pistol over to me, saying "I don't need this one any more." And I get a plastic shopping bag full of random ammo that doesn't even go with the gun they gave me.

It adds up over time.
 
2012-12-17 01:30:14 PM

vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?


No, but calling every rifle in a collection an 'assault' weapon is misleading. Some people collect stamps, some people collect guns. Every hunting rifle, or trap shooting rifle is not an 'assault' weapon. its not its intended use. Just like all the knives in my kitchen aren't assault knives, or my sports closet doesn't contain assault baseball bats.
 
2012-12-17 01:30:59 PM

hdhale: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?

If someone had 47 Camaros or Mustangs, you'd hopefully be asking the same question. Collectors will be collectors. However collectors of firearms owe it to themselves, their families, and to the community to keep the weapons they aren't using for home defense locked in a safe and most importantly don't go around bragging about their arsenal or making idle threats.


Also, if he had 47 Camaros or Mustangs 'hidden throughout his home' I'd still assume he was a nutbar no matter their historic value.
 
2012-12-17 01:31:38 PM

JackieRabbit: Mass murderers never bluff.


Really? I'm not asking for links or studies, but what are you basing that statement on?
 
2012-12-17 01:32:15 PM
Also, the more information that comes out, the more the guy morphs into this in my head:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-12-17 01:32:16 PM
If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is

and if you have easy access to guns, no wonder if you have several time our homicide rate.

/but I am angry now
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:32:27 PM

Sultan Of Herf: The Stealth Hippopotamus: This message brought to you by the same people who think it's funny to joke about bombs at the airport.

Luckily they usually get what they deserve. Hope this guy does too. Is/was he actually dangerous? I dont know, never met the guy. If he is then hes on the radar now, if not he needs to learn a good lesson, and be a lesson to others.

pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

The made this thing called "The Constitution" back when they established the United States. It also makes what we are doing right now a "right". Several other things too. You should look it up sometime.


Yes, look up the part about a "well regulated militia". Apparently "militia" means anyone and "well regulated" means unregulated.
 
2012-12-17 01:33:24 PM
"I was just bluffing!"

"Oh. Ever so sorry. Ok, run along then..."

//That was easy.
 
2012-12-17 01:34:06 PM

devilEther: maachubo: pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

I know! Living in a free society IS awesome! But don't worry, we'll be getting rid of it soon enough.

I've lived my whole life without a gun. It's really not so bad.


Apparently we don't know what we're missing.

My BIL wants bullets for Christmas. Eff off, crazy person. You buy your own bullets, I'll get you more marshmallows got your marshmallow gun.
 
2012-12-17 01:37:49 PM
Fact appears to be, it was a .223 Bushmaster, a carbine.
$5-700.
Still jams too much w/ light loads 

What carbine used to mean: The carbine was originally a lighter, shortened weapon developed for the cavalry. Carbines were short enough to be loaded and fired from horseback but this was rarely done - a moving horse is a very unsteady platform, and once halted a soldier can load and fire more easily if dismounted, which also makes him a smaller target. The principal advantage of the carbine's length was portability. Troops could carry full length muskets comfortably enough on horseback if just riding from A to B (the practice of the original dragoons and later mounted infantry). Cavalry proper (a 'Regiment of Horse') had to ride with some agility and engage in sword-wielding melees with opposing cavalry so carrying anything long would be a dangerous encumberance. A carbine was typically no longer than a sheathed sabre, both arranged to hang with their tops clear of the rider's elbows and bottoms clear of the horse's legs.

Welcome to the 21st century.

What carbine means now: The smaller size and lighter weight of carbines makes them easier to handle in close-quarter situations such as urban or jungle warfare, or when deploying from military vehicles. The disadvantages of carbines relative to rifles include inferior long-range accuracy and a shorter effective range. Larger than a submachine gun, they are harder to maneuver in tight encounters where superior range and stopping power at distance are not great considerations. Firing the same ammunition as rifles gives carbines the advantage of standardization over those personal defense weapons (PDWs) that require proprietary cartridges.

Carbines are issued to high-mobility troops such as special-operations soldiers and paratroopers, as well as to mounted, supply, or other non-infantry personnel whose roles do not require full-sized rifles.

The more you know.

Your amateurish attempts to define and keep up with the technology of weaponry is always doomed when you spout from behind the imaginary security blanket of legislation.

Guns exist. Deal with it by study, practice, dicipline. Not fear.
 
2012-12-17 01:37:55 PM

snocone: vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?

They don't exist in this story.
Most states do not define an AR-15 as a assault weapon. Commonly for sale, cheap.
IRL, it is a POS that every noob seems to want in his collection. Like a BMW.
At least this shooter knew how to clear it, a necessary skill if you use the thing.


Pretty much a worthless gun for everything but clearing a room of kindergartners.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:38:02 PM

hdhale: The Stealth Hippopotamus: snocone: [2] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[3]

Put a folding stock on my 22 250 bolt action rifle and you have an "assault" weapon.

How about a compass or a bottle opener?

/so want a bottler opener
// Now I really want to watch Deal of the Century again

You want a Galil assault rifle, which has a bottle opener.

The weapon features a bottle opener in the front handguard and wire cutter built into the bipod. The bottle opener feature was included to prevent damage to magazines being used to open bottles, due to the large civilian reservist components of the IDF. Use of magazines to open bottles was a common source of magazine lip damage with Uzi submachine guns. Wire cutters were included to reduce the time necessary for IDF troops to cut down wire fences common to rural areas in Israel.

Note that the Galil is an actual assault rifle, not a pretend, military-looking semiautomatic rifle, which are currently popular in the US.


So are AK-47s, AR-15s mini-14. Even if they are semi-auto.

The idea that an assault rifle stops being an assault rifle because it is semi-auto is as silly as saying that a car stops being a car when it has a flat. In fact, many actual assault rifles aren't full auto. The M-16A2 has a three round burst in place of the full auto function.
 
2012-12-17 01:38:49 PM
Still a threat, even if you were "bluffing".
 
2012-12-17 01:39:03 PM

vpb: snocone: skullkrusher: maachubo: pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

I know! Living in a free society IS awesome! But don't worry, we'll be getting rid of it soon enough.

your current legal arsenal will not be enough to overthrow a tyrant. Owning guns is nothing at all about maintaining a free society anymore

Once upon a time tyrants cut fingers off to prevent citizens bearing the assault weapons of the day.
Did not work then, weapon control still will not work.

THE PROBLEM IS THE HUMAN, NOT THE WEAPON
ADDRESS THE PROBLEM, you weak frightened fools.
Remote control will not make you safe. Not ever. Safety is your own job. Learn how.

Well, what do you suggest we do about people like you? There are too many of you to lock up.


I am and always have been in the "keeper" column.
Do you read?
 
2012-12-17 01:39:58 PM

Smeggy Smurf: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?


Pistols: Huge list

Rifles: Huge list

Shotgun: Huge List



Don't you think he would have just as well off with 1 of each, instead of 20 of each? Are you preparing to shoot a home invader, or arming yourself for the joint Chinese/Russia land invasion?
 
2012-12-17 01:40:16 PM

Sultan Of Herf: The Stealth Hippopotamus: This message brought to you by the same people who think it's funny to joke about bombs at the airport.

Luckily they usually get what they deserve. Hope this guy does too. Is/was he actually dangerous? I dont know, never met the guy. If he is then hes on the radar now, if not he needs to learn a good lesson, and be a lesson to others.

pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

The made this thing called "The Constitution" back when they established the United States. It also makes what we are doing right now a "right". Several other things too. You should look it up sometime.


Sure, a "right" within certain guidelines (good and bad). But certainly not treating guns like they were baseball cards. Which, I know, if you threw a baseball card hard enough at someone in the right, yes, you could kill them with it.

"The Founding Fathers instituted gun laws so intrusive that, were they running for office today, the NRA would not endorse them. While they did not care to completely disarm the citizenry, the founding generation denied gun ownership to many people: not only slaves and free blacks, but law-abiding white men who refused to swear loyalty to the Revolution.

For those men who were allowed to own guns, the Founders had their own version of the "individual mandate" that has proved so controversial in President Obama's health-care-reform law: they required the purchase of guns. A 1792 federal law mandated every eligible man to purchase a military-style gun and ammunition for his service in the citizen militia. Such men had to report for frequent musters-where their guns would be inspected and, yes, registered on public rolls. "
 
2012-12-17 01:40:35 PM

LarryDan43: snocone: vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?

They don't exist in this story.
Most states do not define an AR-15 as a assault weapon. Commonly for sale, cheap.
IRL, it is a POS that every noob seems to want in his collection. Like a BMW.
At least this shooter knew how to clear it, a necessary skill if you use the thing.

Pretty much a worthless gun for everything but clearing a room of kindergartners.


Dude... I know it's fark... but damn
 
2012-12-17 01:40:59 PM

snocone: Most states do not define an AR-15 as a assault weapon. Commonly for sale, cheap.
IRL, it is a POS that every noob seems to want in his collection. Like a BMW.


But I likes my AR-15! It's a nice tech demo and has been more reliable than I expected, from all of its bad press. Plus, it truly is the Mr. Potato Head of the gun world. "A scope, and a reflex sight, and a light, and a laser, and a vertical grip, and a secondary sling clip, and a golf ball tube, and a bayonet, and a seismograph, and a thermal imager, and a....."

Most states don't define assault weapons...a term that was invented to describe A Gun That Is Scary And Should Be Banned For The Children. It sounds very close to assault rifle (wiki) that it concerns citizens who hear of it, while still giving politicians the option to say, "I know that assault rifles are already tightly-controlled, but assault weapons run rampant, and anyone could kill everyone with one of these and a 130-round clip."
 
2012-12-17 01:42:43 PM

unlikely: Did he have an .88 Magnum?


it shoots through schools!
 
2012-12-17 01:43:05 PM

vpb: hdhale: The Stealth Hippopotamus: snocone: [2] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[3]

Put a folding stock on my 22 250 bolt action rifle and you have an "assault" weapon.

How about a compass or a bottle opener?

/so want a bottler opener
// Now I really want to watch Deal of the Century again

You want a Galil assault rifle, which has a bottle opener.

The weapon features a bottle opener in the front handguard and wire cutter built into the bipod. The bottle opener feature was included to prevent damage to magazines being used to open bottles, due to the large civilian reservist components of the IDF. Use of magazines to open bottles was a common source of magazine lip damage with Uzi submachine guns. Wire cutters were included to reduce the time necessary for IDF troops to cut down wire fences common to rural areas in Israel.

Note that the Galil is an actual assault rifle, not a pretend, military-looking semiautomatic rifle, which are currently popular in the US.

So are AK-47s, AR-15s mini-14. Even if they are semi-auto.

The idea that an assault rifle stops being an assault rifle because it is semi-auto is as silly as saying that a car stops being a car when it has a flat. In fact, many actual assault rifles aren't full auto. The M-16A2 has a three round burst in place of the full auto function.


Would it make you feel safer if it was pump-action? I can fire my 12ga shotgun at a dear as fast as someone using a semi-auto 12ga. People over-think the the whole semi-auto thing.

Hell with practice you can shoot a 6 shot revolver, reload and continue shooting nearly as fast as someone with a semi-auto and an extended mag.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:22 PM

maachubo: pippi longstocking: I can't believe that in this country guns are considered a right and not a privileged.

I know! Living in a free society IS awesome! But don't worry, we'll be getting rid of it soon enough.

My

free society, that considers checking someone isn't a danger to themselves or others before you let them own a gun (and every now and then once they own it) a perfectly normal and sensible thing to do, frowns on your shenanigans.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:45 PM

snocone: Guns Guitars exist. Deal with it by study, practice, dicipline. Not fear.

 
2012-12-17 01:44:28 PM
Show of hands!
How many swinging members out there willing to do my job of studying real assault weapons operated by real trained shootists from the front end??
Unarmed.

/no brag, just clearing the lawn
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:45:35 PM

snocone: vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?

They don't exist in this story.
Most states do not define an AR-15 as a assault weapon. Commonly for sale, cheap.
IRL, it is a POS that every noob seems to want in his collection. Like a BMW.
At least this shooter knew how to clear it, a necessary skill if you use the thing.


That's amusing. I suspect Eugene Stoner would be surprised to learn that the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 01:46:20 PM

Kimpak: vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?

No, but calling every rifle in a collection an 'assault' weapon is misleading. Some people collect stamps, some people collect guns. Every hunting rifle, or trap shooting rifle is not an 'assault' weapon. its not its intended use. Just like all the knives in my kitchen aren't assault knives, or my sports closet doesn't contain assault baseball bats.


That's why no one does.
 
2012-12-17 01:47:17 PM

Smeggy Smurf: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?

At least one more, as always. 47 isn't hard to come by if you own several different calibers of pistol and rifle. You can figure 2 rifles and 2 pistols for each caliber. One for hunting and general target practice and one for competitive shooting. Then you can start figuring for black powder as well.

[snip]

Shotguns:
.410
22ga
20ga
12ga pump action
12ga break action

5 shotguns - no difference for competition [snip]


You lost me on this one...

/Agree with all the rest
 
2012-12-17 01:47:39 PM
You should never go all in when your bluffing unless your willing to lose it all. No WSOP braclet for you.
 
2012-12-17 01:49:51 PM

Kimpak: vpb: hdhale: The Stealth Hippopotamus: snocone: [2] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[3]

Put a folding stock on my 22 250 bolt action rifle and you have an "assault" weapon.

How about a compass or a bottle opener?

/so want a bottler opener
// Now I really want to watch Deal of the Century again

You want a Galil assault rifle, which has a bottle opener.

The weapon features a bottle opener in the front handguard and wire cutter built into the bipod. The bottle opener feature was included to prevent damage to magazines being used to open bottles, due to the large civilian reservist components of the IDF. Use of magazines to open bottles was a common source of magazine lip damage with Uzi submachine guns. Wire cutters were included to reduce the time necessary for IDF troops to cut down wire fences common to rural areas in Israel.

Note that the Galil is an actual assault rifle, not a pretend, military-looking semiautomatic rifle, which are currently popular in the US.

So are AK-47s, AR-15s mini-14. Even if they are semi-auto.

The idea that an assault rifle stops being an assault rifle because it is semi-auto is as silly as saying that a car stops being a car when it has a flat. In fact, many actual assault rifles aren't full auto. The M-16A2 has a three round burst in place of the full auto function.

Would it make you feel safer if it was pump-action? I can fire my 12ga shotgun at a dear as fast as someone using a semi-auto 12ga. People over-think the the whole semi-auto thing.

Hell with practice you can shoot a 6 shot revolver, reload and continue shooting nearly as fast as someone with a semi-auto and an extended mag.


Your wife must not be very pleased
 
2012-12-17 01:51:48 PM

vpb: That's amusing. I suspect Eugene Stoner would be surprised to learn that the AR-15 isn't an assault rifle.


If so, then Eugene Stoner doesn't know what an assault rifle is. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic version of the M-16, which is an assault rifle. Being capable of automatic fire is part of the definition of an assault rifle...the AR-15 has had this capability removed.
 
2012-12-17 01:51:52 PM

Abuse Liability: Kimpak: vpb: hdhale: The Stealth Hippopotamus: snocone: [2] sometimes described as military-style features useful in combat.[3]

Put a folding stock on my 22 250 bolt action rifle and you have an "assault" weapon.

How about a compass or a bottle opener?

/so want a bottler opener
// Now I really want to watch Deal of the Century again

You want a Galil assault rifle, which has a bottle opener.

The weapon features a bottle opener in the front handguard and wire cutter built into the bipod. The bottle opener feature was included to prevent damage to magazines being used to open bottles, due to the large civilian reservist components of the IDF. Use of magazines to open bottles was a common source of magazine lip damage with Uzi submachine guns. Wire cutters were included to reduce the time necessary for IDF troops to cut down wire fences common to rural areas in Israel.

Note that the Galil is an actual assault rifle, not a pretend, military-looking semiautomatic rifle, which are currently popular in the US.

So are AK-47s, AR-15s mini-14. Even if they are semi-auto.

The idea that an assault rifle stops being an assault rifle because it is semi-auto is as silly as saying that a car stops being a car when it has a flat. In fact, many actual assault rifles aren't full auto. The M-16A2 has a three round burst in place of the full auto function.

Would it make you feel safer if it was pump-action? I can fire my 12ga shotgun at a dear as fast as someone using a semi-auto 12ga. People over-think the the whole semi-auto thing.

Hell with practice you can shoot a 6 shot revolver, reload and continue shooting nearly as fast as someone with a semi-auto and an extended mag.

Your wife must not be very pleased


She's pretty good at holding the apple steady.
 
2012-12-17 01:52:16 PM

D_Evans45: Smeggy Smurf: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?


Pistols: Huge list

Rifles: Huge list

Shotgun: Huge List


Don't you think he would have just as well off with 1 of each, instead of 20 of each? Are you preparing to shoot a home invader, or arming yourself for the joint Chinese/Russia land invasion?


Nah, too much weight. One rifle and one pistol is plenty if you're looking to misbehave. If it were me I'd choose an M-14 and a .45 but then I prefer long distance shooting of goblins instead of up close personal murder of children.
 
2012-12-17 01:52:17 PM

Sultan Of Herf: vpb: snocone: Sleeping Monkey: "If people followed through on all the threats they've ever made - things said in anger that they don't really mean and regret - our population in this country would be half of what it is,"

Au contraire! Not everyone who gets angry in this country is armed to the teeth with assault weapons.

Whar "assault weapons"? Over here? Nope. Maybe over there? Nope. None here.
Why the inflamitory words invention?

GWB burned this approach to the ground.

Is this the latest strategy? Deny that assault rifles exist?

Before you can ban or control anything at the Federal level some definitions must be made solid. A single clear, final definition.

Things that need definition by the Federal govt in relation to firearms:

1) assault weapon
2) automatic weapon
3) high capacity magazine

That should be a start...

...and no we dont care what you Farkers define those as, your not the Federal govt.


So you are going to give that task to the BATF? Given their track record under the Obama administration, that's not a selling point for the concept.
 
2012-12-17 01:56:14 PM

Skyd1v: Smeggy Smurf: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?

At least one more, as always. 47 isn't hard to come by if you own several different calibers of pistol and rifle. You can figure 2 rifles and 2 pistols for each caliber. One for hunting and general target practice and one for competitive shooting. Then you can start figuring for black powder as well.

[snip]

Shotguns:
.410
22ga
20ga
12ga pump action
12ga break action

5 shotguns - no difference for competition [snip]

You lost me on this one...

/Agree with all the rest


Shouldn've previewed and caught the typo. 28ga.
 
2012-12-17 01:57:35 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Skyd1v: Smeggy Smurf: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?

At least one more, as always. 47 isn't hard to come by if you own several different calibers of pistol and rifle. You can figure 2 rifles and 2 pistols for each caliber. One for hunting and general target practice and one for competitive shooting. Then you can start figuring for black powder as well.

[snip]

Shotguns:
.410
22ga
20ga
12ga pump action
12ga break action

5 shotguns - no difference for competition [snip]

You lost me on this one...

/Agree with all the rest

Shouldn've previewed and caught the typo. 28ga.


Gotcha. ( was wondering if there was something new out there...)
 
2012-12-17 01:57:37 PM
Such fear.
I'm concerned that gun owners will cancel each other out pretty soon.

it reminds me of the guys that spent a huge amount of income to build "Bomb Shelters" during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Buying land and cement mixers and steel doors and having holes dug and then building and then covering it over and then ten years later turning it into a sauna because IT WOULDN'T HAVE STOPPED A DAMN THING.

If the world goes to hell, do you really want to hang on to it? really?
How about working to make sure it doesn't go to hell. Too difficult a concept?

Nothing wrong with recreational shooting. Nothing wrong with hunting. I support both.

Running around like little bed wetters though, that's gotta stop. 

No, not duckin' - bring it and tell me what's wrong with working towards sanity. Or go wet the bed again.
 
2012-12-17 02:00:15 PM

LowbrowDeluxe: hdhale: D_Evans45: 47 guns? Just how many guns do you need?

If someone had 47 Camaros or Mustangs, you'd hopefully be asking the same question. Collectors will be collectors. However collectors of firearms owe it to themselves, their families, and to the community to keep the weapons they aren't using for home defense locked in a safe and most importantly don't go around bragging about their arsenal or making idle threats.

Also, if he had 47 Camaros or Mustangs 'hidden throughout his home' I'd still assume he was a nutbar no matter their historic value.

 

See, that's a yellow flag to me as well. Someone wants to collect 100 rifles in various calibers and 200 pistols to match, I have to wonder what else to have to spend money on, but fine. Just be responsible about it. If your level of paranoia has gotten to the point that you must scatter parts of your collection through the house "just in case" and they are easily accessible (I can see where someone might want to have multiple gun safes in multiple locations, btw), might be time to schedule that therapy appointment.

Dude never heard of holster? :-P
 
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