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(Washington Times)   Since Alaska's fishery industry was greatly affected by Hurricane Sandy, Senate is looking to approve $150 million for recovery of those fisheries. This headline makes about the same amount of sense as the 'pork'   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 53
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2012-12-17 12:32:18 PM  
*affected

Yeah, I'm that guy.
 
2012-12-17 12:33:09 PM  
Palin said Alaskans were bootstrappy.

Lying beatch!
 
2012-12-17 12:33:33 PM  

Since Alaska's fishery industry was greatly effected by Hurricane Sandy


How about "fishing industry" and "affected"?
 
2012-12-17 12:35:05 PM  
This headline makes about the same amount of sense as the 'pork'

Not sure if I see what you did there, subby.
 
2012-12-17 12:35:39 PM  
They know about struggling fisheries. They can see a hurricane from their houses.
 
2012-12-17 12:36:00 PM  
0xDD HALT AND CATCH FIRE: Destination = Moonie Times
 
2012-12-17 12:36:52 PM  
Bootstrappy folks up there, I hear.
 
2012-12-17 12:36:59 PM  
It may not be ethical, but you can't say their congress critters don't work for them*.
 
2012-12-17 12:39:38 PM  

Automator: *affected

Yeah, I'm that guy.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2012-12-17 12:39:38 PM  
*reads article* "Mark Begich"

Well, that's all you need to know right there.

/not a fan
 
2012-12-17 12:39:44 PM  
I wonder if the $150 million to Alaska was put in to get some republican support and votes in the senate.
 
2012-12-17 12:41:20 PM  
Without reading the article, the argument could be made that the fishermen couldn't unload their supply to a huge consumer like the northeast. Such an interruption in revenue could cause financial hardship on some fisherman that live check to
check.
 
2012-12-17 12:43:07 PM  
Sing it with me everybody. The bridge to nowhere leads to me!
 
2012-12-17 12:45:39 PM  
OK, but only if you cut $150 million in slave reparations to lazy urbanites.
 
2012-12-17 12:46:15 PM  
Yes...40 billion dollar relief bill..can we get that itemized please?

No seriously, and not rounded to the nearest billion or anything, actual dollars and cents of where each greenback goes
 
2012-12-17 12:49:21 PM  
I hear from a friend who's a professional fisheries biologist that they ARE having an epic bad salmon year up there, and that particular fish IS a big deal in Alaska in ways that even agriculture-dependent lower-48s might find surprising.

Still, the way to address it is with an emergency measure that stands on its own, not by sneaking it into a relief bill for the Northeast that will probably be attacked as "blue-state vote buying" before the ink is dry.
 
2012-12-17 12:49:51 PM  
It's not socialism when red states benefit!
 
2012-12-17 12:58:37 PM  

Temporarily Qualmless: I hear from a friend who's a professional fisheries biologist that they ARE having an epic bad salmon year up there, and that particular fish IS a big deal in Alaska in ways that even agriculture-dependent lower-48s might find surprising.

Still, the way to address it is with an emergency measure that stands on its own, not by sneaking it into a relief bill for the Northeast that will probably be attacked as "blue-state vote buying" before the ink is dry.


TofuTheAlmighty: It's not socialism when red states benefit!


never let a crisis go to waste...

FTA

"These much-needed funds will help make communities whole and hopefully help fund research on factors affecting Chinook returns," Sen. Mark Begich, Alaska Democrat, said in a statement touting the funding.
 
2012-12-17 01:04:37 PM  
wait... not to worry. Obama said he would veto any bill with earmarks... er.. larded with earmaks... I think this one counts.

Link
 
2012-12-17 01:05:22 PM  
Why am I not surprised in the least.

I especially like the part about tye NOAA funds.
Obama: hey, lets give them $32m
Congress: Nah. Here's $300m instead
Republicans: Fartbongo's spending is out of control!

How about we hold the actual people responsible, you know, responsible and accountable.
 
2012-12-17 01:08:00 PM  

WildManBand: Without reading the article, the argument could be made that the fishermen couldn't unload their supply to a huge consumer like the northeast. Such an interruption in revenue could cause financial hardship on some fisherman that live check to
check.


Check to meth.
 
2012-12-17 01:14:09 PM  
I hear from a friend who's a professional fisheries biologist that they ARE having an epic bad salmon year up there, and that particular fish IS a big deal in Alaska in ways that even agriculture-dependent lower-48s might find surprising.

Still, the way to address it is with an emergency measure that stands on its own, not by sneaking it into a relief bill for the Northeast that will probably be attacked as "blue-state vote buying" before the ink is dry.


THIS
It should stand on it's own, but it won't.
The salmon runs have been falling precipitously in the past few years, and Salmon to Alaskans (particularly natives and villagers) is like cows to the lower 48. Would there be funds to find out why if cattle reproduction was dramatically reduced? Unfortunately, being in Alaska, our people aren't rich or important enough; especially those who fish the salmon runs to feed their families over the winter rather than buy the expensive flown in meat.
 
2012-12-17 01:14:46 PM  
According to the Senate Appropriations Committee, the bill also includes "$150 million for fishery disasters declared by the Secretary of Commerce in 2012." The Commerce Department has declared fishery disasters in New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Mississippi, and Alaska, and the money will be available to deal with the disasters in all of these states. Furthermore, Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski has stated that she strongly supports the inclusion of fishery disaster money in the draft bill.

Link

And this is why Fox, Drudge and the Washigton Times don't like Media Matters.
 
2012-12-17 01:15:32 PM  
I live in Valdez which is a fishing community in Alaska. The fishing here this year was far worse than most years, but it was that way all year. Sandy didn't have anything to do with it. Granted there are a lot of people that have lost almost everything from not being able to catch anything...but that's the nature of being a fisherman in Alaska. But like the Cubs fans say...There's always next year.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:12 PM  

Muta: I wonder if the $150 million to Alaska was put in to get some republican support and votes in the senate.


I would think it was put IN a republican as that's all there appears to be from there.
May have missed a lib or dem or two but I think on the whole I'm reasonably accurate

When Uncle Sugar shows up only a fool has a closed hand evidently.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:58 PM  
Congressmen porking up a disaster relief bill to get money that would be impossible to get otherwise? No, that has never once happened in Washington. Our elected officials have too much integrity to allow something so underhanded.

/nothing to see here. move along now..
 
2012-12-17 01:33:48 PM  
What, no pic of a lawn chair tipped over? For shame.
 
2012-12-17 01:34:22 PM  
Hurricane Sandy relief is probably the only legislation that is going to pass this year, so you can bet they are loading it up.
 
2012-12-17 01:47:23 PM  
Mr. Obama asked for $32 million to repair part of the Amtrak rail system not covered by insurance, but the Senate multiplied that request more than tenfold, to $336 million, with the extra money going to cover Amtrak's operating losses and to increase train capacity into New York City.

there's a face palm moment
 
2012-12-17 01:57:51 PM  

mcreadyblue: Palin said Alaskans were bootstrappy.

Lying beatch!


shiat they all get supplemental income from us. and the oil companies.
 
2012-12-17 01:58:37 PM  

iron_city_ap: Why am I not surprised in the least.

I especially like the part about tye NOAA funds.
Obama: hey, lets give them $32m
Congress: Nah. Here's $300m instead
Republicans: Fartbongo's spending is out of control!

How about we hold the actual people responsible, you know, responsible and accountable.


but the Senate multiplied
 

but, you know run with your version of events
 
2012-12-17 01:58:54 PM  
Red States love federal government bailouts.
 
2012-12-17 02:04:52 PM  
I suppose that if the govt. is going to shell out money to help one area of the country, a little pork for other areas is not so bad.
 
2012-12-17 02:10:54 PM  
Creationists won't admit this, even if you challenge them point-blank, but Hurricane Sandy effected a Boeing 747 in a junk yard in New Jersey. Unfortunately, the drinks cart was filled with nothing but empty cola cans so there was no way it could actually fly.
 
2012-12-17 02:21:07 PM  

JohnCarter: Yes...40 billion dollar relief bill..can we get that itemized please?

No seriously, and not rounded to the nearest billion or anything, actual dollars and cents of where each greenback goes


What? This is not lunch.
We be Governing here.
Just pay the thing.
 
2012-12-17 02:33:39 PM  

Marcintosh: Muta: I wonder if the $150 million to Alaska was put in to get some republican support and votes in the senate.

I would think it was put IN a republican as that's all there appears to be from there.
May have missed a lib or dem or two but I think on the whole I'm reasonably accurate

When Uncle Sugar shows up only a fool has a closed hand evidently.


FTFA:
"These much-needed funds will help make communities whole and hopefully help fund research on factors affecting Chinook returns," Sen. Mark Begich, Alaska Democrat, said in a statement touting the funding."

Both parties play the same games.
 
2012-12-17 02:44:28 PM  
ya know, sometimes I just wish the american people would do a real good double flush of those festering sewer pits in washington
 
2012-12-17 02:58:56 PM  

Muta: I wonder if the $150 million to Alaska was put in to get some republican support and votes in the senate.


This ad appeals to the politicians and their wealthy buddies...
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2012-12-17 03:08:30 PM  

Boston Kiwi: Marcintosh: Muta: I wonder if the $150 million to Alaska was put in to get some republican support and votes in the senate.

I would think it was put IN a republican as that's all there appears to be from there.
May have missed a lib or dem or two but I think on the whole I'm reasonably accurate

When Uncle Sugar shows up only a fool has a closed hand evidently.

FTFA:
"These much-needed funds will help make communities whole and hopefully help fund research on factors affecting Chinook returns," Sen. Mark Begich, Alaska Democrat, said in a statement touting the funding."

Both parties play the same games.



Sure, but which party insists that the deficit, debt and spending are The Most Important Issues Ever?
 
2012-12-17 03:18:20 PM  

Englebert Slaptyback: Since Alaska's fishery industry was greatly effected by Hurricane Sandy


How about "fishing industry" and "affected"?


You're right about "affected" but "a fishery may involve the capture of wild fish or raising fish through fish farming or aquaculture"

Link

Capturing wild fish may be fishing but I wouldn't call fish farming fishing.
 
2012-12-17 03:52:38 PM  
cdn.motinetwork.net
 
2012-12-17 04:21:38 PM  
Sounds bootstrappy to me.
 
2012-12-17 04:33:39 PM  

Brick-House: [cdn.motinetwork.net image 640x687]


Why is you mom on all 4's?
 
2012-12-17 04:48:03 PM  
Since most of the commercial big boys are out of Washington (as in Seattle) It really is about the larger corporations getting their investments back from the payoffs to the politicians....Ya feel me...... Murkowski?
 
2012-12-17 05:16:50 PM  
Our gov't at work, solving problems that don't really exist.
 
2012-12-17 05:34:08 PM  
Eh, they're still devastated by the Exxon Valdez spill (and got completely screwed out of their settlement). I'm not going to cry too hard over this one.
 
2012-12-17 05:36:53 PM  
This just in: Congress puts smaller bills with larger bills so they don't spend all year just voting.
 
2012-12-17 05:42:30 PM  

cgraves67: It may not be ethical, but you can't say their congress critters don't work for them*.


I guess if you consider it a Congressman's work to drag as much of the federal budget into his district as possible regardless of whether it makes sense or not, then yeah.
 
2012-12-17 08:32:30 PM  
Like anyone would have given two farks about this had money not been going to Alaska.

I'm in favor of Alaska secession. We can restore our fisheries by torpedoing all factory trawlers within the 200 mile limit.

/don't live there now, but I'll go back home if it ever happens
 
2012-12-17 08:38:54 PM  
Eh, they're still devastated by the Exxon Valdez spill (and got completely screwed out of their settlement). I'm not going to cry too hard over this one.

I live in Valdez....the same one as in Exxon Valdez. We aren't still devestated by that. We talk about it for sure. But I'm a landscape and wildlife photographer up here and trust me when I say that we're doing fine. I personally think this is a crock. We had a bad fishing year but that happens. It's not the end of the world and was a bad fishing year back in July before Sandy. DON'T SEND US MONEY FOR THAT!! USE IT ON EDUCATION!!

I hate to use the addage, but give a bunch of fisherman some money for bad fish and they get drunk for a winter...let them sober up and start fishing again and you feed them and their neighboring cities and huge parts of the United States for a lifetime.
 
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