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2012-12-17 04:59:22 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Kit Fister: I keep an FFL-style A&D book in the gun safe that logs serial numbers, type, and source of all of my firearms purchases.

Look, if you REALLY love your family and you REALLY think you need a contingency plan then you REALLY need to get another hobby. If you get worse likely the first thing you'll do is stop seeing your therapist so your family will get no notice.

Shoot with a friend, continue to advocate for 2A rights, Fark til your eyes bleed and take up archery and paintball.

Get rid of those guns.


No. When it becomes an issue, I will. I believe in being overprepared hence the contingency plan. Getting a little down because of stress isn't something I see getting much worse.
 
2012-12-17 04:59:54 PM  
ah the NRA cowards....

they were probably too busy humping Zombie Heston
 
2012-12-17 05:00:29 PM  

TypoFlyspray: Course, when the character assassination of Joe Scarborough beings (which it surely will anon), you'll be able, if you're very good at this sort of thing, to follow the funding right back to the NRA.


I don't know about character assasination, but I saw his antics this morning as I got ready for work. He and his band of idiots had no idea what they were talking about as far as guns are concerned, despite numerous claims of growing up around guns and hunting. He deserves to be called out on saying the AR-15 SEMIautomatic rifle will fire off 30 rounds per second. The fully automatic military version will only fire off 13rps.

Other gems included calling a Glock an assault weapon (and I swear I heard them mention that it too has a 30rps rate of fire) and mentioning that people can buy miniguns. Someone needs to bombard their page with links to the Cracked article which explain why the minigun is a moot point, between weight and the fact that no average human can carry and fire the son of a biatch, despite what they saw in Predator. There's also the fact that they're rare and run almost half a million bucks.

At least Mika had the sense to accept that she knows shiat about guns and sat there silent and scowling. Of course, unless she's reading a teleprompter or stuttering emotionally in disagreement, that's all she seems to do anyway.

Honestly, after I heard Wolf Blitzer ask someone "Do hunters need semiautomatic rifles to hunt?" yesterday, I knew the derp was gonna be stronger on MSNBC. I just had no idea I was gonna end up all:

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Don't get me wrong, I fully expected the gun control people to go off the deep end, but I had hoped that after the years of ridicule over their issues with getting their facts straight, they would've done some god damned research this time. Instead, they sound more ridiculous than ever. Yes, it's a tragedy and people on both sides are emotional, but for the love of god, be rational and make sure your argument is backed by facts, not bullshiat and hyperbole.
 
2012-12-17 05:02:51 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: waiting for hollywood to deactivate their facebook pages on all their violent shows and movies.

we have had guns for a long time. what has changed in the last 10 years that results in these senseless slaughters?


Dooms Day idiots - you know, MORONS with a "cause".
Fear of a black man in the white house.
The media whipping these people into a frenzy.

Have you watched that reality crap AxMen? They feature this case of arrested development that carries and uses what looks and sounds like a .44mag. One week he was agitated over something and discharged it into the ground emptying the cylinder. Another week he was busily shooting a tree to knock it down and then using the barrel as a lever to pry the trunk off the stump.

The moron in the gun shop sees this and thinks it's "Reality" and it's okay to do this. The mental patient see's this and feels they can do it too. A 10 second blurb in the beginning "some actions portrayed in this show blah blah blah" isn't going to register with these people. It's just like the FBEEEYE warning, who reads that?

Don't think this is the case? Ask yourself - why do advertisers pay BILLIONS of dollars every year to advertise on TV. It's because people believe it.

It's not the only reason but it's a start
 
2012-12-17 05:04:44 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: Really, keep using the "CARS KILL PEOPLE TOO!" argument. It definitely makes a good point - for more regulations on firearms


Hey, let's use that same logic to regulate free speech and religion! If you think cars have killed a lot of people you should see the body counts that have come from religious disputes and ideological differences. Considering that those are some of the biggest drivers of wars right up there with resource fights, it should be easy to justify regulating free speech, right?

Do you have another chart just like your car chart you can use to justify regulating free speech and religion? Quite a few countries on this planet have done this already and I'm sure you can find source material pretty easily.
 
2012-12-17 05:05:34 PM  

onyxruby: rufus-t-firefly: Really, keep using the "CARS KILL PEOPLE TOO!" argument. It definitely makes a good point - for more regulations on firearms

Hey, let's use that same logic to regulate free speech and religion! If you think cars have killed a lot of people you should see the body counts that have come from religious disputes and ideological differences. Considering that those are some of the biggest drivers of wars right up there with resource fights, it should be easy to justify regulating free speech, right?

Do you have another chart just like your car chart you can use to justify regulating free speech and religion? Quite a few countries on this planet have done this already and I'm sure you can find source material pretty easily.


you don't neeeeeed a YouTube account.
 
2012-12-17 05:07:53 PM  

Kit Fister: When it becomes an issue, I will.


Too late.

You're being selfish.

Grow up.
 
2012-12-17 05:11:18 PM  

TypoFlyspray: brnt00: Well funded, national healthcare (including comprehensive mental health care), as well as the removal of the stigmas associated with those who seek out mental health care when they need it, could have likely prevented this tragedy. But let's keep derping about gun control.

You're never going to get all the guns away from the people who have no business having the power to kill at a distance, and you're never going to identify all the violently crazy early enough to keep them from acting on it. SO, given that it is relatively easy to get a gun and given that it is relatively had to get someone institutionalized for violent insanity (until they actually kill someone) perhaps it's not a matter off either well funded national healthcare (including comprehensive mental healthcare) and Removing the stigma associated with using mental healthcare services, OR some common sense gun control, but rather both? Particularly if the latter is informed by the former?

Characterizing what's being seriously discussed regarding gun control right now as Derpery across the board is failing to consider that a lot of the suggestions out there are reasonable by any sense, and itself verges on Derp.

Can anyone really say now that the Gun Show loophole should remain open?


I would tend to agree. But I feel like with the political climate the way it is, there's no chance in hell that any new gun control laws are going to get passed, just look at the resistance in the Fark threads. Looking at this particular situation, the guns were legally purchased by the mother. Apart from an all out ban on semi automatic weapons, I don't know what kind of new gun laws could have prevented this. A law that says she has to turn in the guns since a person that lives with her has been diagnosed with a board line personality disorder? I just don't know the answer. What I do know, is that had the parents or someone else encouraged and assisted him to get the help he needed, and that help was well trained and not over burdened by other cases, I don't think we would be here today.

For the record, I personally don't know why anyone should need anything other than a bolt action rifle or breech loader shotgun for anything. But it'll be a cold day in hell before everything else gets outlawed.
 
2012-12-17 05:15:27 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Kit Fister: When it becomes an issue, I will.

Too late.

You're being selfish.

Grow up.


So judgemental. How about you allow me and my physician decide what issues I have? Why is it selfish for me to continue with my hobby when I'm not a danger to anyone and according to my psychologist healthy and well adjusted aside from stress-related depression?

Anyway, I'm a perfectly cromulent adult who is self aware, but thanks for your medial opinion doc.
 
2012-12-17 05:17:19 PM  
Also, since my wife is notified of my appointments (I suck at scheduling and remembering appointments) she's know if I stopped going.
 
2012-12-17 05:18:10 PM  

rufus-t-firefly: But, he had the weapons at home, so he was free to do what he wanted to with them. Hell, under Connecticut law he couldn't have the pistols since he was 20 years old, but the Bushmaster was OK.

Adam Lanza was too young to legally own or carry handguns under Connecticut law.

The system works!


If you seen my other posts, I support gun ownership, even the scary black guns. However, I do think we should apply the laws regarding handguns to all semi-auto shotguns and rifles as well. 21 years old, background check prior to purchase, etc.
 
2012-12-17 05:19:15 PM  

DrewCurtisJr: brnt00: Well funded, national healthcare (including comprehensive mental health care), as well as the removal of the stigmas associated with those who seek out mental health care when they need it, could have likely prevented this tragedy.

mental health care isn't magic. Depending on the condition the success rate isn't that great. And all sources I've read seem to indicate that this was a well off family, who could have afforded mental health care if they wanted it.


I agree. It's not magic. And from what's coming out about the family, who knows if they would have even let him talk to a mental health counselor or encouraged him to. But in so many of these cases, I feel like if the shooter would have been encouraged and able to talk to someone, it could have been avoided, or the counselor could have seen these things coming and alerted the authorities (in line with hipaa of course). It may not be magic, and it's not an end all be all, but it's certainly part of the equation. Gun control can be discussed day and night, and I highly doubt much will change. But this is a part of the puzzle that's not being adequately addressed and can certainly help be part of the solution.

/disclaimer: girlfriend is a mental health counselor, so I might be a bit biased.
 
2012-12-17 05:19:40 PM  

mizchief: rufus-t-firefly: But, he had the weapons at home, so he was free to do what he wanted to with them. Hell, under Connecticut law he couldn't have the pistols since he was 20 years old, but the Bushmaster was OK.

Adam Lanza was too young to legally own or carry handguns under Connecticut law.

The system works!

If you seen my other posts, I support gun ownership, even the scary black guns. However, I do think we should apply the laws regarding handguns to all semi-auto shotguns and rifles as well. 21 years old, background check prior to purchase, etc.


But all purchases of firearms require a background check, even long guns. And long guns require you to be 18. What difference will those three years make?
 
2012-12-17 05:22:10 PM  

brnt00: For the record, I personally don't know why anyone should need anything other than a bolt action rifle or breech loader shotgun for anything. But it'll be a cold day in hell before everything else gets outlawed.


I sincerely hope you don't have to find out first hand. Your argument is basically the same as "i don't know why anyone would use a gun for anything but hunting" as those are pretty much the only practical use of bolt actions and breach loaders.
 
2012-12-17 05:22:34 PM  

Zulu_as_Kono: brnt00: But let's keep derping about gun control.

High-capacity magazines - for when shooting a first grader ten times isn't enough!


Hey, I'm with you. Personally I think anything other than bolt action rifles and breech loading shotguns (double barrels) should be banned. But given the way things are, that will never happen, just like outlawing of high capacity magazines.
 
2012-12-17 05:25:00 PM  

mizchief: brnt00: For the record, I personally don't know why anyone should need anything other than a bolt action rifle or breech loader shotgun for anything. But it'll be a cold day in hell before everything else gets outlawed.

I sincerely hope you don't have to find out first hand. Your argument is basically the same as "i don't know why anyone would use a gun for anything but hunting" as those are pretty much the only practical use of bolt actions and breach loaders.


They're perfectly usable for home defense and sport shooting as well.
 
2012-12-17 05:26:56 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Kit Fister: I take BP meds, otherwise i'm healthy. I own, probably, 16 or 17 guns, combination of pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc.I keep at any given time about 5,000 rounds of the common calibers (considering I shoot 2-3000 rounds per weekend, I'm ordering fairly frequently).


I wonder if it is even legal for you to own one gun. I think both Fed and State laws prohibit the mentally ill from possessing guns, right? Are you admitting, in an open forum, that you are mentally ill and a gun nut?


Since when are blood pressure meds a problem in this regard?
 
2012-12-17 05:28:51 PM  

EViLTeW: Youtube is pro-marine? pro-invasion-of-Iraq?
Throw me a bone here, I'm trying to understand how Youtube and the NRA are comparable in these two situations.


Whoosh.

Hint: The NRA closed their FB page to comments to avoid idiocy.
 
2012-12-17 05:28:54 PM  

megarian: tenpoundsofcheese: waiting for hollywood to deactivate their facebook pages on all their violent shows and movies.

we have had guns for a long time. what has changed in the last 10 years that results in these senseless slaughters?

Homosexual atheist democrat pro-abortion single mother fetuses.


Stop. You are making me hungry.
 
2012-12-17 05:29:47 PM  

Kit Fister: mizchief: rufus-t-firefly: But, he had the weapons at home, so he was free to do what he wanted to with them. Hell, under Connecticut law he couldn't have the pistols since he was 20 years old, but the Bushmaster was OK.

Adam Lanza was too young to legally own or carry handguns under Connecticut law.

The system works!

If you seen my other posts, I support gun ownership, even the scary black guns. However, I do think we should apply the laws regarding handguns to all semi-auto shotguns and rifles as well. 21 years old, background check prior to purchase, etc.

But all purchases of firearms require a background check, even long guns. And long guns require you to be 18. What difference will those three years make?


Thanks, my info was outdated, didn't think background checks were required for long guns.
 
2012-12-17 05:30:55 PM  

brnt00: mizchief: brnt00: For the record, I personally don't know why anyone should need anything other than a bolt action rifle or breech loader shotgun for anything. But it'll be a cold day in hell before everything else gets outlawed.

I sincerely hope you don't have to find out first hand. Your argument is basically the same as "i don't know why anyone would use a gun for anything but hunting" as those are pretty much the only practical use of bolt actions and breach loaders.

They're perfectly usable for home defense and sport shooting as well.


Assuming that you hit your intruder with one shot....
 
2012-12-17 05:37:16 PM  
All this talk about hunting and home defense is fatuous Jeffrey. The 2nd amendment makes no mention of hunting or personal defense. However, it does mention a militia, which connotes warfare, and in the same sentence it mentions the right of the PEOPLE to bear arms. Good luck fighting a modern military using only breech loaders and 5 round magazines.
 
2012-12-17 05:38:17 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Endive Wombat: Want to start assigning blame for incidents like this? Blame the insurance companies that are in bed with politicians. A few more incidents like this and hopefully a real conversation about access to mental health services in the US can actually happen.

I have really great insurance and yet still can not afford the ~$300-400 a month it would cost me to get therapy to deal with my complex PTSD. So, I've just bought psychological books regarding the treatment of PTSD and have tried to do it on my own. It's not really working too well, but at least I can get out of bed every morning. I also do yoga and other things to simply try and calm down. My state drastically cut mental health services 4 years ago so unless I was a danger to myself or others they cannot assist.

I'm in no danger to go off and kill anyone, or myself; but goddammit. How does anyone expect people to get the help they need?


I recommend Full Catastrophe Living by Jon Kabat-Zinn if you haven't read it yet.
 
2012-12-17 05:38:29 PM  

mizchief: Kit Fister: mizchief: rufus-t-firefly: But, he had the weapons at home, so he was free to do what he wanted to with them. Hell, under Connecticut law he couldn't have the pistols since he was 20 years old, but the Bushmaster was OK.

Adam Lanza was too young to legally own or carry handguns under Connecticut law.

The system works!

If you seen my other posts, I support gun ownership, even the scary black guns. However, I do think we should apply the laws regarding handguns to all semi-auto shotguns and rifles as well. 21 years old, background check prior to purchase, etc.

But all purchases of firearms require a background check, even long guns. And long guns require you to be 18. What difference will those three years make?

Thanks, my info was outdated, didn't think background checks were required for long guns.


Only firearms that don't require a background check to purchase afaik is black powder. So you get at most six shots before you gotta manually reload it...
 
2012-12-17 05:40:14 PM  

Flakeloaf: EViLTeW: Youtube is pro-marine? pro-invasion-of-Iraq?
Throw me a bone here, I'm trying to understand how Youtube and the NRA are comparable in these two situations.

Whoosh.

Hint: The NRA closed their FB page to comments to avoid idiocy.


yep. About the same people who threatened the mass effect page saying they had blood on their hands just because the brother of the shooter (unrelated) had liked a mass effect page.

people are beyond retarded. stir up a little emotions, and they go from normal IQ to "below room temp"
 
2012-12-17 05:42:52 PM  

Kit Fister: So judgemental. How about you allow me and my physician decide what issues I have?


Well, there's ONE of your problems. The others have been expressed by yourself and the other posters responding to you.
 
2012-12-17 05:44:31 PM  

brnt00: Well funded, national healthcare (including comprehensive mental health care), as well as the removal of the stigmas associated with those who seek out mental health care when they need it, could have likely prevented this tragedy. But let's keep derping about gun control.


How about both. Nobody needs automatic weapons.
 
2012-12-17 05:47:05 PM  

Spare Me: Statistically, based on population, these types of incidents are actually fewer and very rare. The reason it "seems" more prominent is the instant news, media and internet blasting of such events.


4 spree killings in one year? Just because murder rates are down doesn't mean spree killings are.
 
2012-12-17 05:47:35 PM  

andersoncouncil42: brnt00: Well funded, national healthcare (including comprehensive mental health care), as well as the removal of the stigmas associated with those who seek out mental health care when they need it, could have likely prevented this tragedy. But let's keep derping about gun control.

How about both. Nobody needs automatic weapons.


The guns you're objecting to, only LOOK LIKE automatic weapons. It's OK, the anti-gunners rely on confusion and frequent distortion of that fact.
 
2012-12-17 06:01:38 PM  
Uuuuh, there's nothing the NRA can say that would remotely sound good right now. There is nothing to say when 20 kindergarteners and 6 faculty get gunned down. Anyone who tries to defend any part of the actions the kid took on Friday is a dipshiat.
 
2012-12-17 06:11:50 PM  

Kit Fister: But all purchases of firearms require a background check, even long guns. And long guns require you to be 18. What difference will those three years make?


That's a question one could as easily ask about drinking. It's arbitrary, in an attempt to quantify maturity.
 
2012-12-17 06:17:30 PM  

CapeFearCadaver: Kit Fister: So judgemental. How about you allow me and my physician decide what issues I have?

Well, there's ONE of your problems. The others have been expressed by yourself and the other posters responding to you.


My physician, in this case, is a licensed psychiatrist. My MD referred me. As to my other problems...well, if a minor case of depression is a problem, yes. But yes, I'm okay with this. And, who knows, I might end up giving up guns. But, for now, my doctor, who is also a shooter, has said that he sees no reason why I pose any risk, and suggests that i'm healthier than half of the people who he shoots with, and he's the professional. *shrugs*
 
2012-12-17 06:31:35 PM  

Flakeloaf: EViLTeW: Youtube is pro-marine? pro-invasion-of-Iraq?
Throw me a bone here, I'm trying to understand how Youtube and the NRA are comparable in these two situations.

Whoosh.

Hint: The NRA closed their FB page to comments to avoid idiocy.


I still don't see what that has to do with your boobies.

Nra likely shut down their facebook page because they are vehemently pro-gun and people who are pro-banning guns would attempt to use the nra's stance as an excuse to rant and troll all over the page.

as far as I'm aware, youtube (google) only promotes political agenda related to internet legislature, which has no relation to civilians getting killed by marines in iraq.

If youtube was trying to about idiocy, they wouldn't have a comment system...or allow uploads.
 
2012-12-17 06:33:12 PM  
Like it or not gun control in this country is a farce; there'll be a "revolution" the day they try to take guns away from American citizens. I own guns, bows, sharp sticks, and harsh language. I've never killed a single person in my life, nor do I intend to. I also don't need any sort of gun commonly identified as an "assault rifle". I don't understand why people want or need such weapons, then again maybe my lack of e-peen is the problem, I don't need a gun to make me look like a badass. I'll stick with my 12ga shotgun and a .22 for varmint killing.

I also think it's a combination of lack of respect for each other in today's society and the 24/7 news channel whoremongering that people get off on.

Younger folks these days behave far more reprehensibly in public than I ever remember when I was growing up. If I treated other people like I saw today, my parents would have marched my arse back out of the car, blistered my behind, and made me go apologize and help pick up the groceries of the older lady whom I I knocked the grocery sack out of her hands. The mother just stood there and watched her 13-15 year old son do that outside of Kroger, and then hurriedly got in the car when being approached by other citizens who wanted to have a few words with her shiatty parenting skills. People just don't care about their neighbors anymore.

And I can't say enough loathing words about Fox News/CNN/et cetera. I'm sorry 20 children died, I'm sorry for their families and friends, and I'm sorry for their whole community...but get it off of the news already. I'm sick of reading about it, I'm sick of watching it. I can't even watch the local news to see the weather without "New theories into why a school was targeted!". The more heroic we make these whackjobs out to be, the more outlandish the next one is going to be. He has to be better than the last one, always.
 
2012-12-17 06:35:14 PM  

TimonC346: considering guns are neither mentally or physically addictive.

Bull-toot.

Your entire constitution has been raped senseless by a long succession of retarded politicians, and the American citizenry basically ignored it.

EXCEPT that as soon as someone talks about taking the toys away, the rhetoric is like listening to a homeless guy begging for a bottle of vodka. You can't tell me that this isn't an addiction.

For further proof, check out any of the fine 'enthusiast' sites for firearm owners. Obsessive doesn't even come close.

/Canadian
//Firearm owner
///Gun nuts here aren't any better, but at least they can't hide specious arguments behind a constitution
////They elect idiots like Vic Toews for that.
 
2012-12-17 06:41:13 PM  

Kit Fister: Only firearms that don't require a background check to purchase afaik is black powder. So you get at most six shots before you gotta manually reload it...


And for those at home who don't understand. That's a black powder revolver. Reloading it isn't fast or convenient. Criminals don't use black powder guns though.
 
2012-12-17 06:49:36 PM  

semiotix: Listen, let the libtards biatch and moan about their precious "safety," but for me, I've got a dick even longer than the 32-round magazine on my dual-wielded TEC-9s.

Unfortunately, what I do not have is a third hand. So when I've fired all 64 rounds (hollow-points, natch), and the terrorist/burglars/deer is still standing there, what am I supposed to do, you panty-wetting clowns?

No, seriously, if you have any ideas, I'd love to hear them. I worry about this a lot. Normally I'd ask the NRA, but they're not answering the phone for some reason.


Go back for target practice, copper.
 
2012-12-17 06:50:04 PM  

Mrbogey: Kit Fister: Only firearms that don't require a background check to purchase afaik is black powder. So you get at most six shots before you gotta manually reload it...

And for those at home who don't understand. That's a black powder revolver. Reloading it isn't fast or convenient. Criminals don't use black powder guns though.


As the man once said, shoots as fast as lightning but she loads a mite slow...

/not guilty I said, ya got the wrong man, nothin touched the trigger but the devil's right hand...
 
2012-12-17 07:00:28 PM  

dittybopper: There is a problem with this: You can make a gun relatively easily. This guy made the receiver for an AK (the actual part that is classified as a "gun") using an old used shovel.


Well if they illegalize it then quality guns that require milling would disappear but stamped receivers like the AK could be mass produced by any competent machinist almost as fast as you can run the machine. That's a cool link because it shows just how mechanically simply the weapon is.

The AK-47 was designed so that illiterate peasants in a run down shack could assemble and operate it. Some people just can't wrap their heads around this. The only complex pieces on it are the barrel and front trunion. And even those can be either adapted or made with a competent machinist.

And personally, if they ban guns, I'm not going to report anything I see. And I'm sure millions of other Americans would go along with it just like they did during Prohibition.
 
2012-12-17 07:09:37 PM  

The Southern Dandy: All this talk about hunting and home defense is fatuous Jeffrey. The 2nd amendment makes no mention of hunting or personal defense. However, it does mention a militia, which connotes warfare, and in the same sentence it mentions the right of the PEOPLE to bear arms. Good luck fighting a modern military using only breech loaders and 5 round magazines.


It's funny that a lot of NRA and 2nd Amendment supporters are arguing that keeping guns in the hands of civilians would prevent or stop these events, but how many of these mass shootings were actually prevented or stopped by armed civilians?
 
2012-12-17 07:18:44 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: It's funny that a lot of NRA and 2nd Amendment supporters are arguing that keeping guns in the hands of civilians would prevent or stop these events, but how many of these mass shootings were actually prevented or stopped by armed civilians?


Armed civilians? Quite a few...
Link

I've also heard the statistic that an armed non-police officer stopped roughly 1 in 9 shootings but I can't find the stat right now.

Also, When civilians intervened, the body count is lower than when there is a wait for the police.

Link

How much time did Adam Lanza have to walk through the school and choose his targets? If he had a bolt action rifle, would it have changed anything?
 
2012-12-17 07:22:41 PM  
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2012-12-17 07:25:55 PM  
Overheard comment at work: "We do NOT need tougher regulation on guns... But, I don't think people should have easy access to assault weapons and high powered firearms".

This is why we can't get things done.
They don't even know what they are talking about.
 
2012-12-17 07:31:26 PM  

Mrbogey: And personally, if they ban guns, I'm not going to report anything I see. And I'm sure millions of other Americans would go along with it just like they did during Prohibition.


I have similar thoughts.
Prohibition is the revenuers problem, not mine.

/My guns will probably have "a tragic boating accident" the first day.
/They'll be worth some good money in the future.
 
2012-12-17 07:41:50 PM  
I wonder why no one went to get comments from a local farmer when timothy McVeigh blew up a building full of children using cow shiat...
 
2012-12-17 07:43:47 PM  

Kit Fister:
I keep at any given time about 5,000 rounds of the common calibers (considering I shoot 2-3000 rounds per weekend, I'm ordering fairly frequently).


Unless it is .22lr, you are saying you are spending $50k/year on ammo?
 
2012-12-17 07:47:09 PM  

atomicmask: I wonder why no one went to get comments from a local farmer when timothy McVeigh blew up a building full of children using cow shiat...


Because he didn't USE cow shiat.
He used Ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
 
2012-12-17 07:47:20 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: waiting for hollywood to deactivate their facebook pages on all their violent shows and movies.

we have had guns for a long time. what has changed in the last 10 years that results in these senseless slaughters?


Parenting. Medicating kids. Anti-social behavior via electronics. Anti-social behavior passed down by parents, like not knowing who your neighbors are. The Media hyping up tragic events by measuring them up to other tragic events. "If there are any more deaths, this could be the highest death count at a mass shooting in US HISTORY!!!!!"
 
2012-12-17 07:47:36 PM  
There was a documentary on last night about Russian prisons. One of them (Black Dolphin) has an average of 5 murders per inmate. Not sure what it has to do with this discussion...just thought it was an interesting fact.
 
2012-12-17 07:52:46 PM  

TommyymmoT: atomicmask: I wonder why no one went to get comments from a local farmer when timothy McVeigh blew up a building full of children using cow shiat...

Because he didn't USE cow shiat.
He used Ammonium nitrate fertilizer.


Did anyone go ask the farmers co-op or big agriculture what it thought about the miss use of its Fertilizer? did they apologize?
 
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