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(Yahoo)   A strong contender for biggest lie of the election has to be has to be the tax-exemption filing Rove's Super-PAC Crossroads GPS made with the IRS in which it claimed political spending "was not the group's primary purpose"   (news.yahoo.com ) divider line
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2012-12-17 09:28:44 AM  
I hope something in that vast morass of legal grey areas will come back and bite Rove in the ass, hard.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 09:31:58 AM  
It wasn't, it's primary purpose was to rip off wealthy donors and fill Rove's pockets.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 09:36:54 AM  
The supposed lie was told in 2010, outside of this election season. If you want to send somebody to jail over this you have to prove the statement was false when made, i.e. whoever signed the form knew that the corporation was going to do mostly non tax exempt things. Which is a technical legal question and I agree with the prior description of a "vast morass of legal grey areas."
 
2012-12-17 09:42:21 AM  

vpb: It wasn't, it's primary purpose was to rip off wealthy donors and fill Rove's pockets.


Yep.

You'd think with the profane amount of donors' money Rove pissed away on schlock, low-budget ads and half-hearted, comically-debunked attacks, the people who gave him half a billion dollars to overthrow Obama would hire someone to make Rove pay.

Seriously. If I were Karl Rove, I'd be living in constant fear. The amount of money he ran off with after scamming these billionaires is amazing, and not something I'm sure they can overlook.
 
2012-12-17 09:51:45 AM  

Vodka Zombie: vpb: It wasn't, it's primary purpose was to rip off wealthy donors and fill Rove's pockets.

Yep.

You'd think with the profane amount of donors' money Rove pissed away on schlock, low-budget ads and half-hearted, comically-debunked attacks, the people who gave him half a billion dollars to overthrow Obama would hire someone to make Rove pay.

Seriously. If I were Karl Rove, I'd be living in constant fear. The amount of money he ran off with after scamming these billionaires is amazing, and not something I'm sure they can overlook.


Leaving us all with the age-old question of who's the biggest douche: Karl Rove or the Koch bros.?

I have to give Rove points for grafting as hard as it's humanly possible to graft, but on the other hand, if the Koch brothers - and I'm not saying it's right but I understand the urge - if they were to, say, play a round of The Most Dangerous Game with Rove to get their money back, I'd be okay with that too.
 
2012-12-17 10:20:23 AM  
What interesting is that I recall when ACrossroads was first formed I remeber Karl being quoted as telling donors that the PAC would really be focused on State races rather than federal ones because "Do you want to spend $20 million capturing a disputed house seat every election cycle or use that same money to get a majority in the statehouse and lock the seat down for 10 years with re-districting?"

I wonder what became of that strategy? Did he just get greedy and drop it in favor of the more high profile stuff?
 
2012-12-17 10:29:40 AM  

incendi: I hope something in that vast morass of legal grey areas will come back and bite Rove in the ass, hard.


And I hope it really enjoys the taste of ham, too
 
2012-12-17 10:55:43 AM  
That 501(c)(4) law needs to be changed. It's getting ridiculous.
 
2012-12-17 11:13:12 AM  

ZAZ: The supposed lie was told in 2010, outside of this election season. If you want to send somebody to jail over this you have to prove the statement was false when made, i.e. whoever signed the form knew that the corporation was going to do mostly non tax exempt things. Which is a technical legal question and I agree with the prior description of a "vast morass of legal grey areas."


Like Karl Rove will ever see the inside of a jail cell. Ever.
 
2012-12-17 11:29:26 AM  

Magorn: What interesting is that I recall when ACrossroads was first formed I remeber Karl being quoted as telling donors that the PAC would really be focused on State races rather than federal ones because "Do you want to spend $20 million capturing a disputed house seat every election cycle or use that same money to get a majority in the statehouse and lock the seat down for 10 years with re-districting?"

I wonder what became of that strategy? Did he just get greedy and drop it in favor of the more high profile stuff?


Um, they were successful on the redistricting front?
 
2012-12-17 12:18:12 PM  

Magorn: What interesting is that I recall when ACrossroads was first formed I remeber Karl being quoted as telling donors that the PAC would really be focused on State races rather than federal ones because "Do you want to spend $20 million capturing a disputed house seat every election cycle or use that same money to get a majority in the statehouse and lock the seat down for 10 years with re-districting?"

I wonder what became of that strategy? Did he just get greedy and drop it in favor of the more high profile stuff?


Redistricting happened and won't happen again until 2020.
 
2012-12-17 12:28:41 PM  
Does anyone remember that one Tea Party group back in 2010 that shuttered a day or two before their first FEC filing was due? Apparently they no one could find any politicians who got donations from them, and the only stuff that anyone was sure they spent money on was advertising to donate to them and making shirts and hats with their name on it.

Surprised there haven't been more stories like that; seems like abuse of election loopholes to commit fraud is a very profitable business model.
 
2012-12-17 12:29:00 PM  

Vodka Zombie: vpb: It wasn't, it's primary purpose was to rip off wealthy donors and fill Rove's pockets.

Yep.

You'd think with the profane amount of donors' money Rove pissed away on schlock, low-budget ads and half-hearted, comically-debunked attacks, the people who gave him half a billion dollars to overthrow Obama would hire someone to make Rove pay.

Seriously. If I were Karl Rove, I'd be living in constant fear. The amount of money he ran off with after scamming these billionaires is amazing, and not something I'm sure they can overlook.


All those billionaires forgot the key disclaimer: "past performance does not guarantee future results".
 
2012-12-17 12:52:51 PM  
But does it have to be?
 
2012-12-17 12:54:22 PM  

Vodka Zombie: Seriously. If I were Karl Rove, I'd be living in constant fear. The amount of money he ran off with after scamming these billionaires is ...


...tax deductible. Just like their ALEC memberships. It demonstrates the extent to which the affluent perverted the political process.
 
2012-12-17 01:25:01 PM  

coco ebert: That 501(c)(4) law needs to be changed. It's getting ridiculous.


Getting? It was made that way.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:19 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Redistricting happened and won't happen again until 2020.


technically court cases could change some redistricting but probably wont.
our process to create districts is probably the worst thing for our government
 
2012-12-17 01:30:20 PM  

ZAZ: The supposed lie was told in 2010, outside of this election season. If you want to send somebody to jail over this you have to prove the statement was false when made, i.e. whoever signed the form knew that the corporation was going to do mostly non tax exempt things. Which is a technical legal question and I agree with the prior description of a "vast morass of legal grey areas."


It doesn't matter, if you significantly change an organization midway through its existence that invalidates its tax status, you have to change your tax status. Everyone who continued operating the business as a political machine while knowing of its tax status was committing fraud.
 
2012-12-17 01:37:22 PM  
Too bad the IRS doesn't have the guts to enforce the law against rich people.
 
2012-12-17 02:03:19 PM  

neenerist: Vodka Zombie: Seriously. If I were Karl Rove, I'd be living in constant fear. The amount of money he ran off with after scamming these billionaires is ...

...tax deductible. Just like their ALEC memberships. It demonstrates the extent to which the affluent perverted the political process.


Yes, and billionaires don't really mind if the people scamming them pay taxes or not, they tend to be pissed either way.
 
2012-12-17 03:25:01 PM  

Magorn: What interesting is that I recall when ACrossroads was first formed I remeber Karl being quoted as telling donors that the PAC would really be focused on State races rather than federal ones because "Do you want to spend $20 million capturing a disputed house seat every election cycle or use that same money to get a majority in the statehouse and lock the seat down for 10 years with re-districting?"

I wonder what became of that strategy? Did he just get greedy and drop it in favor of the more high profile stuff?


State races don't get the big donors to break out their checkbooks.
 
2012-12-17 05:33:44 PM  
I ALMOST admire Rove for ripping off some of the worst people in America.

ALMOST.

If he'd done it purposefully in some sort of a Robin Hood troll, he's be a hero. In reality, he's just a deluded doosh-bag, and one of those 'worst people'. Would love to see him serve time for his crimes against this country and the world...
 
2012-12-17 05:59:28 PM  
No one is more deserving of a historically distinct sobriquet than Karl Rove.

Farkers, brand his name well enough and it will stick for History.

QND:
1. Karl "Yellow Hawk, bringer of lies" Rove
2. Karl "Green Dregs and Ham" Rove
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-12-17 06:43:55 PM  
MindStalker: Everyone who continued operating the business as a political machine while knowing of its tax status was committing fraud.

Tax exempt status hadn't been granted yet. If there's an obligation to amend the pending application, somebody could be in trouble.
 
2012-12-17 06:54:21 PM  
www.industryleadersmagazine.com

/audit him until he squeals
 
2012-12-17 10:02:09 PM  
www.blogforarizona.com

I just hope this picture becomes a reality soon.
 
2012-12-17 10:26:32 PM  

Grungehamster: Does anyone remember that one Tea Party group back in 2010 that shuttered a day or two before their first FEC filing was due? Apparently they no one could find any politicians who got donations from them, and the only stuff that anyone was sure they spent money on was advertising to donate to them and making shirts and hats with their name on it.

Surprised there haven't been more stories like that; seems like abuse of election loopholes to commit fraud is a very profitable business model.


On the upside, these shams take money away from effective political operations that these crackpots would otherwise be donating to. It's why I don't mind seeing harlots like Bristol Palin and her "charity," which pays something like 80-90% of their revenue to her as "salary." Granted, that one is people thinking they are donating to a charity that educates teenagers about underage pregnancy, but anyone who trusts Palin crotchfruit with their money deserves to get taken.
 
2012-12-17 11:54:47 PM  

coco ebert: That 501(c)(4) law needs to be changed. It's getting ridiculous.


Getting?

No.
 
2012-12-18 07:53:08 AM  
A strong contender for biggest lie of the election has to be has to be the tax-exemption filing Rove's Super-PAC Crossroads GPS
 
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