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(Ars Technica)   Cisco to sell off Linksys, if they can only find a buyer   (arstechnica.com ) divider line
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2012-12-17 09:32:42 AM  
Cisco has engaged the services of Barclays to offload its Linksys division.
They may have better results on craigslist or eBay, as long as they list it "as is"
 
2012-12-17 09:39:47 AM  
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Give it to Quark, I'm sure he can line up a buyer. Will they accept gold-pressed latinum as currency?
 
2012-12-17 09:58:06 AM  
IMO, Cisco screwed the pooch on Linksys and Scientific Atlanta.

They had a perfect opportunity to morph the set top boxes into an all purpose home networking center with CATV, broadband, wireless, media center, firewall etc.

Instead, they spent $6+ billion and they're still making the same shiatty cable boxes as before.
 
2012-12-17 10:03:20 AM  
I hope one of the wifi manufactures with better hardware but less name recognition buys them up as a name plate. Buffalo if they have the funds could be a good fit, or Asus who also makes great wifi gear but lacks the name recognition.
 
2012-12-17 10:12:30 AM  
Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.
 
2012-12-17 10:15:45 AM  
Has Linksys been open with their employees about the sale so far, or do they feel unprotected and not secure?
 
2012-12-17 10:16:18 AM  

zedster: I hope one of the wifi manufactures with better hardware but less name recognition buys them up as a name plate. Buffalo if they have the funds could be a good fit, or Asus who also makes great wifi gear but lacks the name recognition.


It would be great if another company with better hardware snaps them up. Unfortunately, Cicso is probably looking for a large payment, which some of the smaller companies wouldn't be able to handle unless they leverage up like crazy. Leverage that Barclay's would be more than happy to provide.

I really don't want to see one of the smaller companies buy Linksys only to tank later when the business doesn't work out.
 
2012-12-17 10:27:28 AM  
So what you're saying is placing a new sticker on the case while reducing the quality of the product and raising the price doesn't guarantee marketplace success? Good to know.
 
2012-12-17 10:40:12 AM  
There is one good thing about Linksys routers: they run dd-wrt great.
 
2012-12-17 10:44:05 AM  

zedster: I hope one of the wifi manufactures with better hardware but less name recognition buys them up as a name plate. Buffalo if they have the funds could be a good fit, or Asus who also makes great wifi gear but lacks the name recognition.


Asus hopefully. Merge the two lines together and get an even better feature set.
 
2012-12-17 10:45:52 AM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: IMO, Cisco screwed the pooch on Linksys and Scientific Atlanta.

They had a perfect opportunity to morph the set top boxes into an all purpose home networking center with CATV, broadband, wireless, media center, firewall etc.

Instead, they spent $6+ billion and they're still making the same shiatty cable boxes as before.


But that would require vision, risk, and know how. So many big companies fail at this. HP is a recent prime example. Buying up other companies but no real plan just money to burn. It wouldn't surprise me if these things are just ways CEO and friends get a big fat payday and let the new acquisitions burn. 

The sad thing is if properly managed they could have made more but it's all about short term gains.
 
2012-12-17 10:50:32 AM  
Meh, Asus routers come with a great feature set and if that isn't enough for you, most of them can handle dd-wrt. Linksys was the shiat back in the days of their blue and black box router, but those days are in the past.
 
2012-12-17 11:00:53 AM  
Still a strange move. Linksys, unlike the Flip camera, is directly tied to their core business. I know many businesses that use Linksys equipment, particularly the small ATAs, because they don't need to spend tens of thousands on infrastructure. The consumer space is just gravy on that.
 
2012-12-17 11:10:35 AM  

DjangoStonereaver: There is one good thing about Linksys routers: they run dd-wrt great.


They used to, the newer ones have more blocks on that sort of stuff. Asus and Buffalo at least make routers meant to be flashable out of the box
 
2012-12-17 11:12:12 AM  

Cisco to sell off Linksys, if they can only find a buyer


Shouldn't be too difficult: Linksys is the biggest ISP in the world.
 
2012-12-17 11:34:38 AM  

jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.


SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.
 
2012-12-17 11:41:31 AM  

vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.


No it won't, because how do you think they're going to deploy the software even if it is hosted in a SaaS style environment? There are still tons of applications that require a thick client, and many of those won't change for many years.
 
2012-12-17 11:42:38 AM  
1. Linksys brand for sale
2. Buy and re-name the company "FBI Surveillance Van"
3. Profit?
 
2012-12-17 11:52:04 AM  

vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.


Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.
 
2012-12-17 11:55:13 AM  

jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.


Shiat, Terminals and Terminal Emulators have been doing it longer than that.
 
2012-12-17 11:56:22 AM  

jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.


but will they kill the Linux Desktop?
 
2012-12-17 12:18:47 PM  

zedster: jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.

but will they kill the Linux Desktop?


The GNOME foundation and Canonical have been doing a fine job of that for the past 3 years.
 
2012-12-17 12:27:42 PM  
FTFA: Cisco is also still stinging from the PR backlash it triggered six months ago when it attempted to drive all of its Linksys users toward a managed service with Cisco Cloud Connect. That service ostensibly made it easier for users to manage all their Linksys devices from anywhere by grouping them all into a single portal. But the move had the practical effect of forcing users to log into a Cisco website in order to view or change their own device's settings. Cisco eventually relented, but the misstep cost a tremendous amount of goodwill among tech-savvy consumers.

That little misstep put Cisco/Linksys on my "no way, no how" list, right up there with Belkin (of spam router fame). That they would even THINK such a scheme would be a good idea just boggles the mind.

Then again, any SOHO router that won't run DD-WRT is a non-starter for me.

Hopefully, Linksys gets sold to a company that has a farking clue. I still have a couple old WRT54Gv2 units that work beautifully with DD-WRT, though I use them as wireless bridges and APs now for things that don't need N speed.
 
2012-12-17 12:34:52 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: zedster: jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.

but will they kill the Linux Desktop?

The GNOME foundation and Canonical have been doing a fine job of that for the past 3 years.


Touché
 
2012-12-17 12:37:59 PM  

zedster: They used to, the newer ones have more blocks on that sort of stuff. Asus and Buffalo at least make routers meant to be flashable out of the box


Well, it's not new (it's based on a 10-year old product) but there's this.
Linksys WRT54GL
"The Linux-based Wireless-G Linux Broadband Router was created specially for hobbyists and wireless aficionados"
 
2012-12-17 12:43:38 PM  

zedster: jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.

but will they kill the Linux Desktop?


No, this The Year of the Linux desktop. Again.
 
2012-12-17 12:57:16 PM  
Had two Linksys routers and both were shiat.

First wouldn't keep ports open that I opened. They would show as open but wouldn't actually be open. You would have to 'close' them and then re-open for them to be 'open'. Then they would randomly close again. Router died with the blinking-of-death. All the lights flashed on and off but otherwise it did nothing.

Second router locked up the LAN port and then wouldn't let me log in. I could still move data between shares on my computers through the router, but couldn't log into the router or get to the internet (and no amount of resetting helped).

Got myself a D-Link (DIR615) and everything had been working like a champ ever since.
 
2012-12-17 12:57:38 PM  

jaytkay: zedster: They used to, the newer ones have more blocks on that sort of stuff. Asus and Buffalo at least make routers meant to be flashable out of the box

Well, it's not new (it's based on a 10-year old product) but there's this.
Linksys WRT54GL
"The Linux-based Wireless-G Linux Broadband Router was created specially for hobbyists and wireless aficionados"


No it wasn't Linksys released the WRT54G using open source software. They got called on it and released the source code per the GPL. Hackers then used that source code to make the $40~$50 dollar router act like a more expensive router. Linksys in response released the WRT 54G v5 which had less memory then the v4 (2mb vs 8mb) and changed software to vxware. They then re-released the v4 as the WRT54GL and asked for $20 over the price of a v5, it was never created for hobbyists, they just got caught using GPL code.
 
2012-12-17 01:01:23 PM  
i love my wrt54g, have not even had to reset it in 6 years, not bad for finding it at a free used electronics drop off
 
2012-12-17 01:46:47 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Meh, Asus routers come with a great feature set and if that isn't enough for you, most of them can handle dd-wrt. Linksys was the shiat back in the days of their blue and black box router, but those days are in the past.


Yep. I still use one.

Too bad Cisco killed a good thing.
 
2012-12-17 02:34:05 PM  

JustGetItRight: ha-ha-guy: Meh, Asus routers come with a great feature set and if that isn't enough for you, most of them can handle dd-wrt. Linksys was the shiat back in the days of their blue and black box router, but those days are in the past.

Yep. I still use one.

Too bad Cisco killed a good thing.


I never understood why they got rid of that form factor. I know some were slightly different sizes, but it was easy enough to pair, say, a router and an 8 port switch. They stacked, looked nice together and relevant information was available right up front. My edge router is a (flashed to dd-wrt) Linksys 160N, and it's "stylish", but ugly, can't stack with anything, and link lights are on top. A trusty WRT54GS with DD-WRT serves as a managed switch for VLAN subnetting, and I have an ASUS 56N as a WAP. The Asus is also "stylish" but pretty ugly as well. It's actually got an angled form factor, making it pretty useless in that regards.
 
2012-12-17 02:35:34 PM  

justneal: i love my wrt54g, have not even had to reset it in 6 years, not bad for finding it at a free used electronics drop off


That was an excellent router, and one of the last excellent routers they made. Now, a lot of people have to flash their bios with open source to get anything nearly as stable.
 
2012-12-17 02:36:41 PM  

justneal: i love my wrt54g, have not even had to reset it in 6 years, not bad for finding it at a free used electronics drop off


Lucky, mine has to be reboot every week or so. Are you running DD-WRT? Maybe that will fix my woes.
 
2012-12-17 04:03:12 PM  
Lynksys can suck my Netgear N600. Best router I've had, never had a single issue with it.
 
2012-12-17 04:03:56 PM  
Linksys*

FTFM. Long day, need a good drink.
 
2012-12-17 04:13:56 PM  

Gig103: justneal: i love my wrt54g, have not even had to reset it in 6 years, not bad for finding it at a free used electronics drop off

Lucky, mine has to be reboot every week or so. Are you running DD-WRT? Maybe that will fix my woes.


not even sure, i haven't looked at the firmware in a long time
 
2012-12-17 06:56:21 PM  
My home router is a Cisco 1711, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/"write mem" and "reload in 5" are lower-brain activities for me.
 
2012-12-17 07:49:07 PM  

jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.


Right up there with "FCoE is killing FC"
 
2012-12-17 08:32:03 PM  
Oh. So you you don't believe in geek threads.
Well, you're in one now.
 
2012-12-17 09:50:29 PM  
Eddie Adams from Torrance: Instead, they spent $6+ billion and they're still making the same shiatty cable boxes as before.

Back in the days, I used to have a series 2 tivo + a SA cable box. And I was so happy when I moved to a series 3 w/cablecards instead of a box.

You see, somehow, the SA cable box was able to generate more heat than my S2 tivo.

// A S2 tivo is basically a little computer, it has a processor, it has a hard drive, etc. How could a box with no drive that doesn't record anything, generate more heat?
 
2012-12-17 11:02:09 PM  
The SA set-tops are hideously out of date for the most part. Those old nCubes still have 1990s on-screen displays. The set-tops Cisco/SA supplies to AT&T are better, since they use Windows Embedded and Mediaroom, though even there, my original U-verse DVR was slow to respond to remote control operations. My current ISB 7500 solves a lot of the problems, but still Cisco (Scientific Atlanta) and Motorola (Jerrold/General Instrument) are deadlocked in a race to the bottom.
 
2012-12-18 08:42:59 PM  

jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.


I think the PC industry would like a word with you. 87M units were predicted to sell globally in the 3rd quarter of 2012 alone.
 
2012-12-19 10:04:38 AM  

Cyclonic Cooking Action: jayhawk88: vudukungfu: jayhawk88: Reportedly Cisco executives were surprised they couldn't convince Linksys owners they needed to pay a 25% yearly maintenance fee.

SaaS is going to kill Cisco, and Citrix.

Also, thin clients have been killing the PC since the 80's.

I think the PC industry would like a word with you. 87M units were predicted to sell globally in the 3rd quarter of 2012 alone.


I think your sarcasm meter might be a little broken.
 
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