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(Guardian)   Some of Britain's greatest musicians, including Bryan Ferry, Sting, Neil Tennant and Mark Knopfler, band together to write a scathing letter to Newcastle for cutting their arts budget. Maybe they can record a charity single   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 19
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2012-12-17 08:46:43 AM
Cutting the arts is so stupid. They are the single most effective tool for reaching at risk students and reducing bullying and violent behavior. The arts are also often the biggest revenue generators for cities, surpassing tourism in many localities.
 
2012-12-17 08:57:09 AM
Recording a charity song? Flight of the Concords did it best.
 
2012-12-17 09:28:41 AM
If Ginger Spice isn't part of their group I can't take them seriously.
 
2012-12-17 09:41:35 AM
Was it red letter?
 
2012-12-17 09:49:03 AM
Please tell me they're gonna call themselves The Coals.
 
2012-12-17 10:11:53 AM
as a native-born geordie, this saddens me. now, where's my pint?
 
2012-12-17 10:18:02 AM
Huh - my ex went to Northumbria when it was still Newcastle Polytech and remembers seeing people like Sting and Brian Eno wandering around campus. We visited the campus in the early 80s and I was surprised at the level of arts in the city, guess I still thought of it as a coal port.
/csb
 
2012-12-17 10:23:28 AM

ginandbacon: Cutting the arts is so stupid. They are the single most effective tool for reaching at risk students and reducing bullying and violent behavior. The arts are also often the biggest revenue generators for cities, surpassing tourism in many localities.


There's cuts and then there's cuts. You're farking high if you think arts funding is decided on the merits. It's decided the same way defense contracts and highway spending are decided - through the political sausage-making process.

A lot of arts funding goes to large arts organizations that are already doing well financially, especially as they do more deals for commercially-appealing exhibitions. The artists who had works on display at that Brooklyn Museum show that got Giuliani all worked up back in the day...they're stinking rich.

Why the hell did we have to subsidize that? They got a subsidy to troll Giuliani and get themselves free publicity, which jacked up the prices of their work? All of a sudden corporate welfare is okay if it's for art made with poo?

(No, I don't want government subsidizing football stadiums or convention centers either, in case you were wondering.)

It is appropriate for government to indirectly subsidize the arts via tax-deductibility of contributions. But that's about it.
 
2012-12-17 10:54:08 AM
 
2012-12-17 10:58:36 AM

Uzzah: "We demand that you restore funding for the little black dots that show you where to put your fingers on the guitar!"


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2012-12-17 12:07:08 PM
Well tonight thank God it's them, instead of you.
 
2012-12-17 12:29:03 PM
Rich guys demanding to spend other people's money. There's gotta be a way for them to come up with the revenue somehow...
 
2012-12-17 12:57:53 PM
^^^^^^
OMFG THIS!!!!

i hate telethons, like the hope for haiti, hi i'm brad pitt i make 100 million a year, i need you to don't a weeks worth of grocerie money
thanks

i worked that telethon as a call center employee, and people were honestly refusing to donate if they couldn't talk to a celebrity
 
2012-12-17 01:32:37 PM
The "blanket and pre-emptory" cuts could result in "generations of young people denied access to the opportunities we were given and, without the council's support, the arts will simply become a pursuit for the most wealthy", they add.

Really? I paid £4 the other night to see a film at my local cinema. That's art. I can buy a Monet poster for £3. Again, that's art. I can buy complete symphonies of Beethoven for £25 on Amazon. Again, art. My local pub has bands playing for free. Art. My local pub does stand-up nights. Art. There's a shiat load of stuff on TV. Art.

So, what they're talking about are expensive to produce arts like Theatre, Opera and Ballet, which are patronised by people who have more than enough money to pay full price rather than forcing working-class people to pay for their entertainment. I go to the opera, and the idea that the seats are full of checkout girls and plasterers is just laughable. And a lot of it is terrible. I've seen Don Giovanni, and in terms of intelligent art, I'll take The Dark Knight or The Incredibles over it.
 
2012-12-17 01:59:40 PM

farkeruk: The "blanket and pre-emptory" cuts could result in "generations of young people denied access to the opportunities we were given and, without the council's support, the arts will simply become a pursuit for the most wealthy", they add.

Really? I paid £4 the other night to see a film at my local cinema. That's art. I can buy a Monet poster for £3. Again, that's art. I can buy complete symphonies of Beethoven for £25 on Amazon. Again, art. My local pub has bands playing for free. Art. My local pub does stand-up nights. Art. There's a shiat load of stuff on TV. Art.

So, what they're talking about are expensive to produce arts like Theatre, Opera and Ballet, which are patronised by people who have more than enough money to pay full price rather than forcing working-class people to pay for their entertainment. I go to the opera, and the idea that the seats are full of checkout girls and plasterers is just laughable. And a lot of it is terrible. I've seen Don Giovanni, and in terms of intelligent art, I'll take The Dark Knight or The Incredibles over it.


And where do you think those actors and actresses and musicians get their start?
 
2012-12-17 03:19:25 PM

ginandbacon: Cutting the arts is so stupid. They are the single most effective tool for reaching at risk students and reducing bullying and violent behavior. The arts are also often the biggest revenue generators for cities, surpassing tourism in many localities.


Funny, I bet it would be much more effective if it didn't rely upon theft.

But then again, I always choose the peaceful alternative, rather than what the mob du jour demands.
 
2012-12-17 05:15:52 PM
GEORDIE RAGE
 
2012-12-17 05:42:33 PM
Heh. Pretty much every one of those artists has left Newcastle and now live in mansions in southern England. Fark off, Quislings.

Actually, I wouldn't mind the council cutting the Baltic Gallery. I go in about once a month and I've never yet seen anything but crap in there.The Sage music venue rocks, however.
 
2012-12-17 08:17:09 PM
I would rather Bryan Ferry and Mark Knopfler STFU about politics and band together for an album. It would be the greatest work of sho-nuff-gonna-get-you-laid music this side of Marvin Gaye.
 
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