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2012-12-17 01:35:00 PM  

Launch Code: It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle.


God damnit so much.

Sorry Americans but you're screwed. There are altogether too many morons living in your country with an IQ on par with Homer Simpson.

Outside of your own country people would think of you as mildly retarted for that kind of derp.
 
2012-12-17 01:35:04 PM  

JRoo: probesport: "Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Maybe he would rather have gone there but she wouldn't take him and made him learn how to be an efficient killer instead.

I think most people are pretty crazy until they reach about their upper twenties.


Crazy raises crazy, I was in my career and just bought a house at 20 with little to no crazy. Teaching kids how to plink paper targets does not make them efficient killers anymore than teaching someone how to cut a steak makes them a coroner.
 
2012-12-17 01:35:26 PM  
Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.
 
2012-12-17 01:35:49 PM  

meatsack_01: utahraptor2: If a teacher would have been armed, he wouldn't have gotten very far.

This


Teachers don't carry guns for the same reason prison guards don't.
 
2012-12-17 01:36:22 PM  

Phineas: First rule of being liberal: hate the parts of the Constitution that your friends, teachers, and television tell you to hate

Second rule of being liberal: blame Conservativism and capitalism for everything that goes wrong, including hurricanes, economic collapses, and insane people who butcher innocents

Third rule of being liberal: if you must defend insane people who butcher innocents, make sure they're middle eastern, then sympathize with their plight and how they're treated in captivity

And finally, the fourth rule, read Fark, dailykos, huffington post, basically any site where you can congregate with other liberals and congratulate each other for how much smarter and tolerant you are, tolerant of everyone that beileves what you believe, that is.


Can't speak for anyone else, but I've TRIED to 'congregate' over on FreeRepublic.

They banned me for asking a question.

If you think Fark's too liberal, I recommend the "ignore" button.

Use it...liberally :)
 
2012-12-17 01:36:34 PM  

dopekitty74: Snarfangel: minoridiot: Since she divorced Peter, Nancy has had no need to work because she receives $200,000 in support from Peter Lanza.

We either need to ban rich people, the unemployed, or single mothers. I'm trying to decide which.

In the immortal words of Aerosmith: Eat the Rich!


"Steven Tallarico, known around the world as rock singer and musician Steven Tyler, has a net worth estimated at $130 million"

From celebritynetworth.com 

I guess they would prefer you eat the other rich people.
 
2012-12-17 01:36:36 PM  

probesport: "Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?


Imagining cute little puppies happily bouncing around is making me smile. :)
 
2012-12-17 01:37:05 PM  

vpb: If the victims had had military style cargo pants this wouldn't have happened.


Do they make them that small?
 
2012-12-17 01:37:08 PM  

dericwater: Being a survivalist is the most expensive and least efficient way to survive a major catastrophe.


I happen to disagree.

Most of what people would call "survivalism" isn't stocking up on X, Y, or Z, but gathering the skills and knowledge to deal with a crisis. For example, describe to me 3 ways to make water potable in an emergency situation. What common food items found in every kitchen can be used for heat, light, and cooking? There is likely a good source of emergency electricity on your property, do you know how to exploit that?

Now, doomsday preppers are one thing, but being prepared for relatively common, but extended disasters isn't a bad thing. And yeah, having some extra canned goods, etc., around doesn't hurt, of course.
 
2012-12-17 01:37:19 PM  

Rent Party: Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.

I've been having this argument with my family for a few months now, but the answer to this isn't legislation restricting access to guns, but legislation placing 100% responsibility for controlling that gun on the person that legally owns it, and making the penalties for not controlling it absolutely draconian.

If your kid gets your gun and robs the 7-11, you're doing 10 years mandatory minimum. If your kid gets your guns and shoots up an elementary school, you're doing life, no parole.

Gun control should start with gun owners, and positive control of the weapon needs to be the primary responsibility that comes along with it. If this lady knew she could be doing hard prison time if her guns got out of her control, she might have taken better care of them and kept them out of the hands of her nutter kid.

Guns belong on your person, or locked up tight. Not in your nightstand or under your bed.


What if someone steals your car and uses it to commit a crime?
 
2012-12-17 01:37:20 PM  

This text is now purple: homelessdude: Yeah, cause you know, when society breaks down, the first things the Godless Sodomite Philistines will come for are the homes valued around $600k and up
In Connecticut, used cardboard boxes in the middle of the street start in the low $700ks.


No, don't even. this isn't "property values." They were well off.

i.dailymail.co.uk
 
2012-12-17 01:37:35 PM  

the_end_is_rear: Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.


Careful not to get any jizz on your gun while you're jacking...
 
2012-12-17 01:37:46 PM  

TheOther: Preppers are just stockpiling food, ammo and women for me to come along and take from them.


The other thing that's funny is the anti-social people believing they'll survive. Humans will survive like they always have: banding together in groups to further their common interest. Solo preppers will be screwed.
 
2012-12-17 01:37:47 PM  

occamswrist: Moonfisher: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

on a more serious note - not all preppers are crazy, but a lot of crazy people are preppers. given the situation after hurricane katrina or again after hurricane sandy...preparing for a long term disruption of power and food distribution systems is starting to look like plain common sense and not an indication of crazy loonie toons insanity.

There is a big difference between being prepared for a disaster and being a "prepper." We live in SoCal, so I have a cupboard of canned food and bottled water that could feed us for about 2 weeks in case of an earthquake or other disaster. "Preppers," the type my parents are, think the apocalypse is nigh and hoard mounds of ammo, food, fuel, and make survival backpacks. My dad made us all backpacks when I was a teen that contained binoculars, water proof matches, a gas mask, MREs, you name it. He also thinks that when the world collapses, gold will be useful but ammo will be currency, so he has a reload kit. He has lists of things to prep with that he has printed from WND. Whackados, the lot of them.

All that will be brought on by global warming!

Now do you believe it?


No. Climate change will eventually start causing some very uncomfortable situations, but it probably won't lead to Armageddon in my lifetime.
 
2012-12-17 01:38:26 PM  

Wolf_Blitzer: keep seeing derp like this. Tell me - what is a firearm a "tool" for, other than the infliction of death or the threat of death?


To protect your life against someone that is intent on taking it.
 
2012-12-17 01:38:51 PM  

JerkyMeat: The message is clear. Right wingers, you are the nutbag enemy of society


That's ok, left wingers are the nutbag enema of society.
 
2012-12-17 01:38:57 PM  
The truly ironic thing here is that all these "OMG, the gummint is gonna take our gunz!" nutjobs will probably be the reason the government steps in and takes our guns, or at least limits the types of guns we can have.

/libby lib with a sizable arsenal
 
2012-12-17 01:39:00 PM  

Magorn: Gun cotnrol or Nutjob control, not sure which is the better solution, but recent events make it painfully clear that our society is in desperate need of one or the other.


Incorrect. We need a balanced approach to both. We can't just lock up everyone who makes us feel uncomfortable--who has a statistical likelihood to commit a certain crime. We also can't just collect up all the firearms in this country. What we can do is place reasonable restrictions on who can have those firearms, what kinds, and so on; and we can provide for more detection and treatment of dangerous mental disorders.

Combining these approaches will reduce, but not eliminate, the threats in two overlapping groups; the remainder of overlap will thus form two more overlapping groups, leaving an even smaller overlap of people who will eventually pose a problem. That's a major reduction for relatively minor effort.
 
2012-12-17 01:39:02 PM  

Snarfangel: probesport: "Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Imagining cute little puppies happily bouncing around is making me smile. :)


t3.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-17 01:39:36 PM  

Launch Code: It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction


The point of gun control for things like the AR-15 isn't that someone can't kill someone. If someone is determined to kill a person there's plenty of ways they can do it without a gun. However, it's really really really hard for someone to kill 26 people in one place without certain types of guns. The other ways you can do it? All heavily restricted if not flat-out illegal.
 
2012-12-17 01:39:45 PM  

probesport: JRoo: probesport: "Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Maybe he would rather have gone there but she wouldn't take him and made him learn how to be an efficient killer instead.

I think most people are pretty crazy until they reach about their upper twenties.

Crazy raises crazy, I was in my career and just bought a house at 20 with little to no crazy. Teaching kids how to plink paper targets does not make them efficient killers anymore than teaching someone how to cut a steak makes them a coroner.


So knowing everything about the weapons and how to load and fire them and having perfect aim didn't make him any more efficient?

She wasn't taking him out to the backyard with a BB gun to shoot at cans.
 
2012-12-17 01:40:07 PM  
If I've learned one thing from gaming, it's that even those who are completely unprepared can eventually go on to win, if they have a good head on their shoulders.

th09.deviantart.net

Of course, that's why most survivalists are survivalists.
 
2012-12-17 01:40:21 PM  

JackieRabbit: the_end_is_rear: Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.

Careful not to get any jizz on your gun while you're jacking...


I was hoping someone would get my trolling post and comment.
You did not disappoint.
 
2012-12-17 01:40:29 PM  

Jument: tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

Yes, let's eliminate the First Amendment to protect the Second.

I didn't say that the government should step in an stop it.

The press and hollywood could have a bit of restraint and not put out those stories or those types of shows.

It's fiction. When people start reacting badly IRL to fiction, the problem is not with the creators of the fiction. Hint: crazy people are crazy.


Sure enough, crazy people are crazy. A good tautology is never wrong.

On the other hand, the whole "art imitates life vs life imitates art" debate around whether violence on film and TV and in video games is reflective or constitutive of our violent culture is reductionist. Popular culture - like movies, music, TV, video games, sports - helps to reproduce and reshape our culture. The images of armed heroes (and antiheroes, and even villains) prevalent in so much of our popular culture can not be isolated from the widespread belief in our society that sometimes violence is good and just, and it's often a good bit of fun. These images reproduce and strengthen those sentiments. They make it easier for us to accept IRL that violence is all around us, inevitable, and sometimes fun. Sure, these folks took it to extremes, but it's a continuum, not a binary. And the line between crazy and not-crazy, especially when it comes to glorifying guns and violence is anything but clear.
 
2012-12-17 01:40:50 PM  

the_end_is_rear: Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.


*TWEET*

Markley's Law violation. Ten yard penalty and loss of argument.
 
2012-12-17 01:41:18 PM  

fappomatic: Heathen: so having a couple hundred rounds of ammo in your house makes you a prepper?

I was a prepper and didn't even know it.

If that's the case, I'm an international small dealer.

\I get a call from Midsouth every time I order.... "Hey Fapp, did you actually order 40,000 pistol primers or did your cat step on the zero key?"


Well i sleep on a bed made out of 11 billion guns, so i win.
 
2012-12-17 01:41:45 PM  
Huh, I haven't followed the story closely and some things about the article were really confusing.

He shot his mother at her/their home and then got the guns and then went to the school to shoot up a random classroom?

That is farked up.

And why did they write that he cold have done more damage if he hadn't been stopped? And further on they write that he shot himself. So he stopped himself or what?
 
2012-12-17 01:41:49 PM  

JRoo: So knowing everything about the weapons and how to load and fire them and having perfect aim didn't make him any more efficient?


Efficient at loading and firing weapons, yes.
 
2012-12-17 01:41:50 PM  

dennysgod: Not only was she a failure at raising her kids, she was a failure at being a survivalist.


"Failure at being a survivalist" is a redundancy.
 
2012-12-17 01:42:23 PM  
There sure seem to be a lot of scared people in this world and, well, here too.
I believe in being prudent.
Prudent is keeping an eye on things.

I'd prefer to think there's enough sane people to keep things on a relatively even keel.
If I'm wrong then say so when you're eatin' my carcass. Be polite though, NOT with your mouth full

It's a sad thing to go into a gun shop and see white trash spending six months wages on a Desert Eagle .44 and associated accouterments and THEN the damn sun comes up the next day. It's not like it's gonna stop them from drinking the rest of it away either.
Such a disappointment.
 
2012-12-17 01:42:43 PM  

dittybopper: the_end_is_rear: Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.

*TWEET*

Markley's Law violation. Ten yard penalty and loss of argument.


Awesome!!
 
2012-12-17 01:43:14 PM  

NightOwl2255: As she laid there in bed with her son pointing a rifle at her, I wonder what the last thing that went through her mind was.


Bullets ??
 
2012-12-17 01:43:15 PM  
bluefoxicy: TheOther: Do you have a meth lab in your basement?

No, I have bags of thinset and 14 boxes of porcelain tile. And some tools.


'That tile is crooked.'
"If I try to straighten it, it will throw off the rest of the row and I'll have to start all over."
'I said we should pay a pro to do this.'
"Your brother isn't a pro at anything but twitching and stealing my beer."
'See, we should have built the meth lab instead.'

"..."
 
2012-12-17 01:43:37 PM  

thornhill: There have been a number recent militia plots to kill law enforcement officers and Sovereign Citizens have killed a number of police officers recently. It just doesn't get any national media attention because it happens in flyover country. The plotters typically get caught because they don't know the first rule about fight club. Check this out. What's unusually about the Newtown shooting was that schools kids were targeted instead of a representative of the Federal Government.


Those are more crazy people trying to cause the collapse of civilization. I'm talking about the kids of the crazy people, their families, and the crazy people themselves to a degree. If you spend years telling your 15 year old that the world is going to end and they won't live long enough to become an adult, how many are going to decide just to end it all like this douche bag did? I mean, why not? The world is going to end, not like they have anything to live for.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:41 PM  

NightOwl2255: As she laid there in bed with her son pointing a rifle at her, I wonder what the last thing that went through her mind was.


a couple of rounds of .223?
 
2012-12-17 01:43:45 PM  

GQueue: Launch Code: It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction

The point of gun control for things like the AR-15 isn't that someone can't kill someone. If someone is determined to kill a person there's plenty of ways they can do it without a gun. However, it's really really really hard for someone to kill 26 people in one place without certain types of guns. The other ways you can do it? All heavily restricted if not flat-out illegal.


Gasoline is heavily restricted now? That explains the price.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:49 PM  
Look at your Republican neighbor. That man will kill you.

Time to lock them all up.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:52 PM  
All it takes is a single irresponsible, gun-fetishist hoarder to cause an unimaginable tragedy.

There are millions of irresponsible gun owners in the USA.

Is there any reason she couldn't have kept these weapons in a secure location inaccessible to Adam? Or even offsite at a shooting club or something like they do in Europe?

A week before the massacre, one of her beer buddies at the pizza place said she was talking about her son "slipping away" and "unreachable" and burning himself with a lighter. She knew he was spiraling... great idea mom to have an AR-15 and hundreds of rounds available to a psychotic sociopathic Assburger.
 
2012-12-17 01:43:57 PM  

Launch Code: [i1253.photobucket.com image 201x251]
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.


How many people does the average rolling pin murderer take out? What a ridiculously stupid argument.
 
2012-12-17 01:44:05 PM  

Rent Party: Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.

I've been having this argument with my family for a few months now, but the answer to this isn't legislation restricting access to guns, but legislation placing 100% responsibility for controlling that gun on the person that legally owns it, and making the penalties for not controlling it absolutely draconian.

If your kid gets your gun and robs the 7-11, you're doing 10 years mandatory minimum. If your kid gets your guns and shoots up an elementary school, you're doing life, no parole.

Gun control should start with gun owners, and positive control of the weapon needs to be the primary responsibility that comes along with it. If this lady knew she could be doing hard prison time if her guns got out of her control, she might have taken better care of them and kept them out of the hands of her nutter kid.

Guns belong on your person, or locked up tight. Not in your nightstand or under your bed.


That seems... reasonable. 
Gun safes are not all that expensive.
 
2012-12-17 01:44:29 PM  

PsyLord: Came for the clips vs magazines comment..
/leaves disappointed


I was assuming he had stripper clips for fast mag reload. So he had both clips and mags.
 
2012-12-17 01:44:33 PM  

BizarreMan: To those people calling his mother out on not having a gun safe. There is nothing to say she didn't have one. She may have had trigger locks on them. But a 20 year old who lives in the house with her, who has gone to the gun range with her, will most likely know the combination to the safe and where the trigger lock key is.


That is exactly what I am thinking. Not to say she did no wrong. If the thought "My son is becoming unstable and I'm worried about him." crossed her mind she should have packed up her guns and taken them somehere safe. IDK with a trusted friend in their safe, maybe sell them>
 
2012-12-17 01:44:56 PM  
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2012-12-17 01:44:57 PM  

internut scholar: Wolf_Blitzer: keep seeing derp like this. Tell me - what is a firearm a "tool" for, other than the infliction of death or the threat of death?

To protect your life against someone that is intent on taking it.


By inflicting death, or the threat of death, yes? Its a simple question.
 
2012-12-17 01:45:43 PM  

Launch Code: [i1253.photobucket.com image 201x251]
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.



lmao, yeah but give me one example of a mall/theater/school massacre with a hammer or a rolling pin

evil, violent, careless people exist everywhere.. but firearms undeniably enable them to do much worse to much more than any other tool

/facepalm
 
2012-12-17 01:45:48 PM  

Carn: Launch Code: [i1253.photobucket.com image 201x251]
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.

How many people does the average rolling pin murderer take out? What a ridiculously stupid argument.


Is it an African or European rolling pin?
 
2012-12-17 01:46:04 PM  

Launch Code: [i1253.photobucket.com image 201x251]
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.


Firearm homicides in the US: 11,493
All other homicides in the US: 5,306

Guns are used to murder more than twice as many people in the US as all other weapons combined.
Source: CDC, 2009 statistics
 
2012-12-17 01:46:55 PM  

the_end_is_rear: JackieRabbit: the_end_is_rear: Guns make a mans pecker hard and ready.
You Libs just cannot understand that.

Careful not to get any jizz on your gun while you're jacking...

I was hoping someone would get my trolling post and comment.
You did not disappoint.


You're welcome. We might as well have fun in what promises to be a week of endless gun wonking posts.
 
2012-12-17 01:47:26 PM  
I think the kid went after first graders because he knew if he went after second graders they would have beat his ass.
 
2012-12-17 01:47:31 PM  
Can we PLEASE get "Doomsday Preppers" off the air now? Paranoid delusions are a mental disorder, not fodder for a farking wacky reality television competition.

/Spare me your predictable responses- I'm not suggesting the government should ban it. Just that whatever terrible cable channel its on come to their g.d. senses and pull it.
 
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