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2012-12-17 01:24:25 PM
Thunderpipes: hammettman: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

THIS

And sadly, it's too soon or too sad to call her a dumbass because polite society says she should be pitied for dying horribly at the hands of her own child. No. fark her. And somebody on teevee no doubt put that B-52 loadfull of weapons grade derp in her pathetic brain. I'd love to know where she acquired that bs.

This is just plain stupid. Dems will just use this as mare ammo to chip away at rights. As terrible as this tragedy is, using it to erode the constitution is a slipper slope.

Cars kill far more people each year. Ban them too?

If you want to fix the problem, start being tough parents again. But liberals don't believe in that. Further left we go, the worse society gets.


Hey, I thought all liberals were pro-abortion? What is tougher parenting than vaccuuming out the little psycho before he even hits daylight??

If you have to beat them, it's too late to do any good.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:30 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: Do you honestly, sincerely believe that your area is full of people waiting to bust down your door, steal everything you own and rape you, the second they find out there's no guns in your home?


My back door has about 30 or 40 impact marks on it where a battering ram was taken to it in an attempt to force entry.

My home defense system consists of a 2x4. Everyone in my area has steel bars permanently mounted to the windows around the basement and first floor.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:59 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dittybopper: Vegan Meat Popsicle: But remember. Requiring people to have safety locks on their guns and report them when they're lost or stolen is a grievous assault on liberty.

Quite literally, you are correct: The Supreme Court has ruled that requiring that guns be inoperable is a violation of the Second Amendment. It's settled law.

As for reporting them lost or stolen, that's hard to do with your face shot off.

Hardly unique among the stupid decisions made throughout the Court's history, but it doesn't preclude requiring that the guns be secured.


Actually, yes it does:

(3) The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment. The District's total ban on handgun possession in the home amounts to a prohibition on an entire class of "arms" that Americans overwhelmingly choose for the lawful purpose of self-defense. Under any of the standards of scrutiny the Court has applied to enumerated constitutional rights, this prohibition - in the place where the importance of the lawful defense of self, family, and property is most acute - would fail constitutional muster. Similarly, the requirement that any lawful firearm in the home be disassembled or bound by a trigger lock makes it impossible for citizens to use arms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.
 
2012-12-17 01:25:23 PM

NightOwl2255: As she laid there in bed with her son pointing a rifle at her, I wonder what the last thing that went through her mind was.


"I should have prepared for this!"
 
2012-12-17 01:25:27 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

Yes, let's eliminate the First Amendment to protect the Second.

I didn't say that the government should step in an stop it.

The press and hollywood could have a bit of restraint and not put out those stories or those types of shows.


Why do you hate capitalism?
 
2012-12-17 01:25:35 PM

meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]


If you think a sign will prevent jack squat you are an idiot.

But go ahead, you posted your opinion. Problem solved!
 
2012-12-17 01:25:54 PM

dittybopper: My point is that just because her 20 year old son, who lived in the house, figured out how to get the guns, that doesn't necessarily mean they weren't properly secured.


There are not entirely verified reports that she took him to the gun range with her. I'm still waiting for all the facts to sort out, but I would not entirely be surprised if she never expected her pride and joy to turn on her. Being family can blind us to a lot of problems.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:07 PM

Phineas: Wolf_blitzer

Just callin 'em as I sees 'em. This thread (and the article) contain mostly liberals who confuse the tools used to perpetrate the crime with the mental condition of the people who perpetrate them. This kid could've just as easily driven a truck through the side of the building and crushed a classroom. In fact, that would've been easier. But yeah, its easier to blame guns.

I figured you liberals would enjoy knowing how I see you, as hand-wringing hens that flock together and come to irrational conclusions based on the facts at hand. And if there's something you can't quite grasp, you check with other liberals to find out what it is you should be thinking.


Thats great, because I see you as a bed-wetting paranoid, dreaming every day for the Russians (or the Liberals) to invade your house, so that you can demonstrate to everyone just how big a man you are.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:09 PM

whyRpeoplesostupid: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.


Agreed


I can't agree with that. I mean -- come on! It should be clear that zombies are no more real than, say, jackalopes! Wowee it's scary that there are significant number of people who can't recognize it as fantasy, though! I wonder if it's not more indication of the point I was trying to make yesterday -- the woeful state of good mental health services period, not just at a certain income level. Unless, of course, you want drugs -- we gotcher drugs all over the place, thanks to the free market and bootstrappy, job-creating big pharma! Please note, these are not necessarily drugs that will actually do any good for people who have mental illnesses that tend to make them unemployable (and subsequently uninsurable) because there isn't nearly as much money to be made off of unemployed, uninsured people. But if you get anxious speaking in front of a crowd of people, boy do we have a pill for you! ADHD? We're on it -- what flavor would you like your methamphetamine? (Full disclosure -- ADHD myself, not one of those 'herp-derp-just-make-the-kid-sit-still' people, but the point I'm trying to make here is that obviously ADHD people are employable and there's a profit margin in 'em...which is why I get effective medication. Interestingly, my bi-polar, delusional, ADHD kid could not get anything effective for anything but the ADHD, although Abilify did work for a few weeks. He, OTOH, is unemployable, but now that he's covered under my health insurance thanks to health care reform, maybe they'll be a profit margin in developing something that actually helps him and doesn't just tranquilize him.)

Would better mental health services have helped here? Well, actually, maybe...I mean, clearly this was a family problem, and perhaps if a once-a-year therapy visit were as covered as, say, an annual physical, maybe this issue could have been picked up on and cut off at the pass. Would better gun control have helped? Again, probably -- if weapons of mass killings are not as readily available, maybe we don't have as many mass killings -- that math makes sense to simple-minded me.

And, again, maybe not -- maybe neither would have helped in this situation at all. Even if you remove the guns, you still had a homicidal maniac loose in a classroom full of small children, and I hate to see this tragedy reduced to a numbers game. At the same time, damn -- I'm okay with fixing that whole numbers game scenario a bit as part of the overall solution to this problem! And, who is to say that a mental health professional could have possibly picked up on something wrong like that in a once-a-year visit? Human beings operate on a spectrum, and on a good day or bad day that check might have picked me up, and I am about the most completely pacifistic person you'll ever meet.

I am glad that this discussion is happening, and I'm even glad it's happening on dear, snarky, make-'em-cry Fark. And, I hope to not be one of those one-issue, simple solution sound-bite people. The fact is that this is a many-layered problem, and I totally agree with what a friend of mine said the other day -- it's time to start having this conversation as a nation minus the extremists. Obviously. Enough herp-derp -- be it teabagger, conservative, liberal, libertarian or whatever -- is enough. It's time for the grownups who understand that the world can be a complicated place, and no issue of great weight is ever as simple as it first appears, to get in here and start deciding how to handle things.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:18 PM

homelessdude: Yeah, cause you know, when society breaks down, the first things the Godless Sodomite Philistines will come for are the homes valued around $600k and up


In Connecticut, used cardboard boxes in the middle of the street start in the low $700ks.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:27 PM
So let me get this straight...the woman was stockpiling guns as a result of an Obama-inspired conspiracy to impose dictatorship on Americans, and the Obama government "coming to take away our guns", which resulted in her son using those weapons on a killing spree, which may prompt the Obama administration to pass more strict gun-control laws.

Full circle?
 
2012-12-17 01:26:33 PM
bluefoxicy: Wolf_Blitzer: Do you honestly, sincerely believe that your area is full of people waiting to bust down your door, steal everything you own and rape you, the second they find out there's no guns in your home?

My back door has about 30 or 40 impact marks on it where a battering ram was taken to it in an attempt to force entry.

My home defense system consists of a 2x4. Everyone in my area has steel bars permanently mounted to the windows around the basement and first floor.


Do you have a meth lab in your basement?
 
2012-12-17 01:26:44 PM
If we lived in Sparta this wouldn't be an issue, obviously parent's raising children with mental defects is harming society.
 
2012-12-17 01:26:50 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: dittybopper: As for reporting them lost or stolen, that's hard to do with your face shot off.

Ah, yes. You must be another one of those "responsible gun owners" I keep hearing about. A man in a perpetual state of pants-wetting paranoia about the very low possibility that somebody might break into his occupied home and attempt to harm him or his family.


I was talking about the mother, you know, the one who was killed first, and thus couldn't report the guns as stolen? Or is your reading comprehension really that bad?
 
2012-12-17 01:27:08 PM
I see a lot of painters in this thread painting with really broad brushes.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:23 PM

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

on a more serious note - not all preppers are crazy, but a lot of crazy people are preppers. given the situation after hurricane katrina or again after hurricane sandy...preparing for a long term disruption of power and food distribution systems is starting to look like plain common sense and not an indication of crazy loonie toons insanity.


You know what's the best way to prepare for long-term disruption of power and food distribution systems? By paying for improvements to the country's infrastructure so that when the next storm or earthquake hits, the damage will be minimal.

I look at pictures of the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco and compare that to the 1989 Loma Prieta and the 1994 Northridge. Both the latter earthquakes were equally or stronger than the 1906, but the devastation from the 1906 earthquakes was total while the more recent ones had almost no significant deaths and only some damage to transportation systems (Nimitz Freeway destroyed, Embarcadero freeway destroyed, 280 from King Street to the 280-101 junction unstable). In Northridge, just one or two major freeways were destroyed. Not a single major building had any noticeable impairment, and only a few homes were destroyed (most in the Marina district where the foundation was, er, shaky).

What that tells me is improving the infrastructure would help tremendously.

Being a survivalist is the most expensive and least efficient way to survive a major catastrophe. Pitching in and working as a community by paying more taxes to build and set better standards for infrastructure is the cheapest and most efficient way to deal with major uncertainties.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:26 PM
I did kind of wonder why a schoolteacher had a Bushmaster, a .40 Glock and a Sig. Those are very pricey, specialty weapons, not the sort of thing you own unless you are pretty serious about guns.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:31 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Coco LaFemme: She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

Well, actually, she did.


This is why I live in a bulletproof American Gladiator ball. You can never be too careful.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:37 PM
Utter fail, Fark.

Subby should be school massacred for his idiotic use of "whom" and the rest of you should feel really bad about not making him feel really bad about it.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:50 PM

Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

I have 2 guns, a shotgun and a rifle, both of which I iniherited from my father. They've been locked in a safe for 30 years, until a month ago when there was an escaped prisoner loose in our neighborhood. I got out the shotgun, loaded it with the chamber empty, and kept it with me until we got the all clear, at which time I unloaded it and locked it back in the safe. untilk that night, my kids didn't know that I had any guns.

You Sir, are an idiot.

Hopefully one day you don't decide to off your wife and kids and shoot up your workplace. Because you might, at any point for any reason.

Basically I'll reserve judgement on your level of responsibility until after you die. Then we can look at totals.

Glad to see you're keeping an open mind


That's a problem with putting someone on ignore - when some responds to their comment - you are reminded again why you put that douche bag on ignore in the first place.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:57 PM

bluefoxicy: My home defense system consists of a 2x4.


Mine is a Pakistani 'hunting sword'. The houses here are too close together for anything with range.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:17 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: dittybopper: My point is that just because her 20 year old son, who lived in the house, figured out how to get the guns, that doesn't necessarily mean they weren't properly secured.

There are not entirely verified reports that she took him to the gun range with her. I'm still waiting for all the facts to sort out, but I would not entirely be surprised if she never expected her pride and joy to turn on her. Being family can blind us to a lot of problems.


That's true also.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:31 PM

dittybopper: bulldg4life: She did a shiat job of securing her weapons, then.

How do we know? For all we know, she stored the guns in a safe, and the son stole the key while she was sleeping.


The plan was probably underway for awhile, hidden under his bed one small piece of the puzzle at a time, carefully waiting, and then once she laid down for a nap...

i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-17 01:28:37 PM
NRA reaction before: This tragedy happened because none of the victims owned a gun. If even one victim had been prepared, it would have saved a lot of lives.

NRA reaction now: ...
 
2012-12-17 01:28:43 PM

Moonfisher: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

on a more serious note - not all preppers are crazy, but a lot of crazy people are preppers. given the situation after hurricane katrina or again after hurricane sandy...preparing for a long term disruption of power and food distribution systems is starting to look like plain common sense and not an indication of crazy loonie toons insanity.

There is a big difference between being prepared for a disaster and being a "prepper." We live in SoCal, so I have a cupboard of canned food and bottled water that could feed us for about 2 weeks in case of an earthquake or other disaster. "Preppers," the type my parents are, think the apocalypse is nigh and hoard mounds of ammo, food, fuel, and make survival backpacks. My dad made us all backpacks when I was a teen that contained binoculars, water proof matches, a gas mask, MREs, you name it. He also thinks that when the world collapses, gold will be useful but ammo will be currency, so he has a reload kit. He has lists of things to prep with that he has printed from WND. Whackados, the lot of them.


All that will be brought on by global warming!

Now do you believe it?
 
2012-12-17 01:28:50 PM

bluefoxicy: Wolf_Blitzer: Do you honestly, sincerely believe that your area is full of people waiting to bust down your door, steal everything you own and rape you, the second they find out there's no guns in your home?

My back door has about 30 or 40 impact marks on it where a battering ram was taken to it in an attempt to force entry.

My home defense system consists of a 2x4. Everyone in my area has steel bars permanently mounted to the windows around the basement and first floor.


Thats great. Do you keep a defibrillator in your house? Because statistically, thats far more likely to be used to save your or a family member's life than a gun.
 
2012-12-17 01:28:56 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]

Funny - last week the Right felt that public school teachers were worthless moochers off the teat of the Job Creators. This week, they want them all carrying assault rifles.


Well, now, they don't want to actually PAY for that training or the weapons. That would be communism. Or socialism. Or whatever "ism" the Right is up in arms about this week.
 
2012-12-17 01:29:04 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.


Shut your whore mouth!
 
2012-12-17 01:29:23 PM
The solution to this problem is simple: Terminator robots in every classroom.

But not ones modeled on Arnold Schwarzenegger in T1 (T2 and Kindergarten Cop is okay, though. Oh, all right, Arnie in Twins, too, if you must.).
 
2012-12-17 01:29:27 PM

HotWingConspiracy: meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]

Good luck threatening death to people planning to kill themselves in an attack.


Now now. Never in the history of ever has anybody ever intentionally gone into a public space with the intention of being shot to death by police. I mean. If that actually happened there'd be a name for it, I'm sure. "Getting yourself suicided by law enforcement" or something. I dunno. Something snappy. I'm sure someone can come up with something.

And it's not like these people ever armor themselves. No siree. Can't think of any recent shootings where the perp was wearing enough armor to be largely immune to any serious injury from small arms fire.

Besides, what's better than a semi-automatic crossfire in a crowded elementary school hallway full of small children between largely unpracticed people toting deadly weapons!? I'm sure they'll all know to hit the deck and leopard crawl to cover.

The only solution to violence is an exponential retaliatory increase! Nothing could possibly go wrong with that theory.
 
2012-12-17 01:29:28 PM

Thunderpipes: hammettman: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

THIS

And sadly, it's too soon or too sad to call her a dumbass because polite society says she should be pitied for dying horribly at the hands of her own child. No. fark her. And somebody on teevee no doubt put that B-52 loadfull of weapons grade derp in her pathetic brain. I'd love to know where she acquired that bs.

This is just plain stupid. Dems will just use this as mare ammo to chip away at rights. As terrible as this tragedy is, using it to erode the constitution is a slipper slope.

Cars kill far more people each year. Ban them too?

If you want to fix the problem, start being tough parents again. But liberals don't believe in that. Further left we go, the worse society gets.


At first glance, I'd laugh and say that you're trolling, and rather badly at that. But after reviewing your grammar and the stupidly of your argument, I'd have to guess that you're just an average, perhaps a bit farther on the right, Republican with a very loose grasp of reality.
 
2012-12-17 01:29:58 PM

godxam: Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

I have 2 guns, a shotgun and a rifle, both of which I iniherited from my father. They've been locked in a safe for 30 years, until a month ago when there was an escaped prisoner loose in our neighborhood. I got out the shotgun, loaded it with the chamber empty, and kept it with me until we got the all clear, at which time I unloaded it and locked it back in the safe. untilk that night, my kids didn't know that I had any guns.

You Sir, are an idiot.

Hopefully one day you don't decide to off your wife and kids and shoot up your workplace. Because you might, at any point for any reason.

Basically I'll reserve judgement on your level of responsibility until after you die. Then we can look at totals.

Glad to see you're keeping an open mind

That's a problem with putting someone on ignore - when some responds to their comment - you are reminded again why you put that douche bag on ignore in the first place.


Feel my ubiquity.
 
2012-12-17 01:30:08 PM

bluefoxicy: Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.

Not necessarily.

There are two more questions here of immediate relevance:

- Would a larger base of armed, trained citizenry prevent more deaths than these occasional outliers?
- Would a larger base of armed, trained citizenry (say, the teachers, or anyone within hearing range of the gunshots) have provided for earlier dispatch of the shooter, such that fewer deaths would have been incurred per incident?

Other questions of longer-term relevance include:

- Can we change our cultural basis to reduce the severity and frequency of these tragedies? (i.e. small children are IMMENSELY preoccupied with shooting and killing people and how awesome blowing things up is; gangsters and criminals are idolized; shooting people makes you really cool. How do we stop this from becoming the mentality of children who grow up into adults that don't always shed this mentality?)

- Can we improve mental health services to detect and treat people, such that fewer will become this unstable?

And so on.


You ass. I like my cozy little world where I have the perfect answer to everything based on what certain people I choose to believe in the media tell me. This not knowing the answer to everything is deeply unsettling.
 
2012-12-17 01:30:24 PM

PreMortem: Court ordered mandatory psychological exams, then involuntary institutionalisation.

We are allowing too many whack jobs to roam freely.


Gun cotnrol or Nutjob control, not sure which is the better solution, but recent events make it painfully clear that our society is in desperate need of one or the other.
 
2012-12-17 01:30:35 PM
What? No who vs whom grammar slap to subby? What is this world coming to!?!
 
2012-12-17 01:30:36 PM

The Larch: NRA reaction before: This tragedy happened because none of the victims owned a gun. If even one victim had been prepared, it would have saved a lot of lives.

NRA reaction now: ...


Well, she obviously didn't have enough guns.
 
2012-12-17 01:31:09 PM

dittybopper: How do we know? For all we know, she stored the guns in a safe, and the son stole the key while she was sleeping.


That, or he coerced he into to doing it-knife to the throat, that sort of thing.

Somehow I don't think there would be too much emphasis on the owner of the gun if he had killed a local cop and taken the AR-15 from his trunk OR the firearm(s) used were stolen from a police vehicle (happens every now and then).
 
2012-12-17 01:31:20 PM

Snarfangel: The solution to this problem is simple: Terminator robots in every classroom.


Better yet, how about an ED-209? Oh, wait...
 
2012-12-17 01:31:54 PM

homelessdude: Survivalist? Oh please........

Yeah, cause you know, when society breaks down, the first things the Godless Sodomite Philistines will come for are the homes valued around $600k and up 

Connecticut shooter Adam Lanza and family members revealed
(examiner.com)


http://thepillars.info/living.htm ???



/so that doesn't happen then?
 
2012-12-17 01:32:09 PM

Snarfangel: minoridiot: Since she divorced Peter, Nancy has had no need to work because she receives $200,000 in support from Peter Lanza.

We either need to ban rich people, the unemployed, or single mothers. I'm trying to decide which.


In the immortal words of Aerosmith: Eat the Rich!
 
2012-12-17 01:32:13 PM

CheapEngineer: tenpoundsofcheese: Diogenes: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

Yes, let's eliminate the First Amendment to protect the Second.

I didn't say that the government should step in an stop it.

The press and hollywood could have a bit of restraint and not put out those stories or those types of shows.

Why do you hate capitalism?


funny. it isn't as if they could make money with different movies or shows than violence-porn like the Walking Dead, Dexter, and Django.
 
2012-12-17 01:32:23 PM

bluefoxicy: tenpoundsofcheese: Their basement is probably packed with food and supplies.

That she thinks will last 20 years, but really is going to last one or two. My parents have so much oat, grain, and flour, and I'm thinking... I could bake a loaf a week and go through this in a year.


Flour is only good for about 6 months without refrigeration.
 
2012-12-17 01:32:47 PM
FTA: ...her arsenal consisting of two handguns, a semi-automatic rifle and two traditional hunting rifles.

5 firearms is an arsenal?

FTA: State Police Lt. Paul Vance, said: "There was a lot of ammo, a lot of clips. Certainly a lot of lives were potentially saved."

Came for the clips vs magazines comment..
/leaves disappointed
 
2012-12-17 01:32:48 PM

hinten: How exactly owning a long list of devices that are primarily designed to kill makes you safer is anyone's guess.


Making sure your long list is longer then the other guys long list?
 
2012-12-17 01:33:30 PM

KungFuJunkie: Why do I get the feeling that the"preppers" will cause the breakdown of our society?


I have always wondered at one point of investment in doomsday preparation does a person need to get to before it is in their best interest to engender the doomsday they have been preparing for?
 
2012-12-17 01:33:36 PM

Wolf_Blitzer: Do you keep a defibrillator in your house? Because statistically, thats far more likely to be used to save your or a family member's life than a gun.


Who in the hell would use the defibrillator? The only person ever in my house is me. If anyone else is in the house it's probably a home invader.

I have fire extinguishers. They're actually useful.
 
2012-12-17 01:33:48 PM

dericwater: I look at pictures of the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco and compare that to the 1989 Loma Prieta and the 1994 Northridge....

...What that tells me is improving the infrastructure would help tremendously.

Being a survivalist is the most expensive and least efficient way to survive a major catastrophe. Pitching in and working as a community by paying more taxes to build and set better standards for infrastructure is the cheapest and most efficient way to deal with major uncertainties.


But we ARE improving the infrastructure! Just this year, we spent hundred$ of million$ on maintaining and repairing Mosque$ in the Middle Ea$t!
 
2012-12-17 01:34:04 PM
Not only was she a failure at raising her kids, she was a failure at being a survivalist.
 
2012-12-17 01:34:12 PM

TheOther: Do you have a meth lab in your basement?


No, I have bags of thinset and 14 boxes of porcelain tile. And some tools.
 
2012-12-17 01:34:50 PM

Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.


I've been having this argument with my family for a few months now, but the answer to this isn't legislation restricting access to guns, but legislation placing 100% responsibility for controlling that gun on the person that legally owns it, and making the penalties for not controlling it absolutely draconian.

If your kid gets your gun and robs the 7-11, you're doing 10 years mandatory minimum. If your kid gets your guns and shoots up an elementary school, you're doing life, no parole.

Gun control should start with gun owners, and positive control of the weapon needs to be the primary responsibility that comes along with it. If this lady knew she could be doing hard prison time if her guns got out of her control, she might have taken better care of them and kept them out of the hands of her nutter kid.

Guns belong on your person, or locked up tight. Not in your nightstand or under your bed.
 
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