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2012-12-17 01:14:39 PM  

NightOwl2255: dittybopper: bulldg4life: She did a shiat job of securing her weapons, then.

How do we know? For all we know, she stored the guns in a safe, and the son stole the key while she was sleeping.

Which would be a shiatty job of securing her weapons.


I would almost bet that her son had his own key, just in case the evil conspiracies started coming through the door.

I'm guessing someone so focused on the pretend fantasies they're preparing for in their own head isn't going to be a very attentive parent.
 
2012-12-17 01:14:41 PM  

TIKIMAN87: El_Frijole_Blanco: So a Teabagger then

lol self reliance is something a liberal will never learn.


I was raised working the family cattle ranch (grazeland not that Midwest shiat) I also hunt. Spend a month in the saddle at the south end of the Mogollon rim and ask me about self reliance

Fark Independants® ... they think they know what self reliance is
 
2012-12-17 01:14:48 PM  

hammettman: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

THIS

And sadly, it's too soon or too sad to call her a dumbass because polite society says she should be pitied for dying horribly at the hands of her own child. No. fark her. And somebody on teevee no doubt put that B-52 loadfull of weapons grade derp in her pathetic brain. I'd love to know where she acquired that bs.


This is just plain stupid. Dems will just use this as mare ammo to chip away at rights. As terrible as this tragedy is, using it to erode the constitution is a slipper slope.

Cars kill far more people each year. Ban them too?

If you want to fix the problem, start being tough parents again. But liberals don't believe in that. Further left we go, the worse society gets.
 
2012-12-17 01:15:52 PM  

Phineas: tolerant of everyone that beileves what you believe, that is.


Yeah, 'cause the Right is so well known for tolerance for others' beliefs.

www.rawstory.com

/go sit in the corner, dumbass.
 
2012-12-17 01:15:59 PM  

cryinoutloud: Wolf_Blitzer: Because People in power are Stupid: She could afford those guns but couldn't afford a gun safe.
Isn't it time that we paid our kindergarten teachers more?
She wasn't a teacher, she was living on alimony.

Oh well then--she deserved to die. She had more money than you, and she didn't earn it the way you think she should have. Glad we got that out of the way.


I hope you get paid to jump to conclusions, because its the only thing you seem to be good at. I made no judgements on her lifestyle, simply corrected some misinformation. The early reports were all that she was a teacher at the targeted school, which wasn't the case.
 
2012-12-17 01:16:09 PM  

bluefoxicy: HotWingConspiracy: We should start treating them like pit bulls, really. Maybe you've got a nice one, but keep it the fark away from me and my family.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 432x223]

What a pit bull might look like.


Oh look you found a mean dog that isn't a pit bull.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:02 PM  

meatsack_01: utahraptor2: If a teacher would have been armed, he wouldn't have gotten very far.

This



Came for derp.. Found it.. Leaving satisfied.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:13 PM  

Crewmannumber6: she was also, apparently very kind and generous so, you say tomato..

Link


And a barfly!
 
2012-12-17 01:17:15 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.


I have 2 guns, a shotgun and a rifle, both of which I iniherited from my father. They've been locked in a safe for 30 years, until a month ago when there was an escaped prisoner loose in our neighborhood. I got out the shotgun, loaded it with the chamber empty, and kept it with me until we got the all clear, at which time I unloaded it and locked it back in the safe. untilk that night, my kids didn't know that I had any guns.

You Sir, are an idiot.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:19 PM  
"Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?
 
2012-12-17 01:17:28 PM  

Generation_D: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

This 1000x times this.

The whole media "tragedy" angle is missing one fundamental fact: This family spawned this effed up asswit kid, and probably fought to keep him out of treatment or custody. Every damn one of them should be held accountable. But since justice happened to the mom, I guess we can start with the Ernst and Young VP dad. The one dumping the mom in 2009, the same year she quit her job to homeschool lil shooter Adam.


You're ignoring the fact that he was treated as an outcast at school. Bullying is probably what created this kid, compounded by being an aspie and his mother going paranoid, it isn't surprising, but I imagine other kids bullying him are the root cause.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:41 PM  

Phineas: First rule of being liberal: hate the parts of the Constitution that your friends, teachers, and television tell you to hate

Second rule of being liberal: blame Conservativism and capitalism for everything that goes wrong, including hurricanes, economic collapses, and insane people who butcher innocents

Third rule of being liberal: if you must defend insane people who butcher innocents, make sure they're middle eastern, then sympathize with their plight and how they're treated in captivity

And finally, the fourth rule, read Fark, dailykos, huffington post, basically any site where you can congregate with other liberals and congratulate each other for how much smarter and tolerant you are, tolerant of everyone that beileves what you believe, that is.


Step 5: fart in your Toyota Prius and bask in how great your fart smells.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:44 PM  

hinten: How exactly owning a long list of devices that are primarily designed to kill makes you safer is anyone's guess.


Perhaps you should pose your inquiry to the Pentagon?
 
2012-12-17 01:17:47 PM  
Preppers are just stockpiling food, ammo and women for me to come along and take from them.
 
2012-12-17 01:18:03 PM  

whyRpeoplesostupid: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.


Agreed


Until mankind is peaceful enough not to have violence on the news, there's no point in taking it out of shows that need it for entertainment value.
 
2012-12-17 01:18:05 PM  
Is this the thread where we blame a victim instead of the farking whackjob that murdered all those children?
 
2012-12-17 01:18:18 PM  

hammettman: Crewmannumber6: she was also, apparently very kind and generous so, you say tomato..

Link

And a barfly!


Had a social life, yes. Barfly is a stretch.
 
2012-12-17 01:18:26 PM  
Good Idea: Being prepared for possible disasters
Bad Idea: Being a prepper because the wrong guy was elected President again for the 22nd time

Good idea: Living for the advancement of Civilization
Bad Idea: Being enamoured of the idea of living without Civilization

Good Idea: Keeping enough guns and ammo to maintain order in the event of a temporary collapse of civil order
Bad Idea: Letting the loonies and the political extremists keep enough guns and ammo to cause a temporary collapse of civil order

Good Idea: Making War on the commercialization and political exploitation of Christmas
Bad Idea: Making War on those who don't give a damn about Christmas

Good Idea: Learning from past disasters to prepare for future disasters before they are upon you
Bad Idiea: Learning about future disasters from demogogues and political and religious cranks

Good idea: Assuming that half the US population is completely insane
Bad Idea: Assuming you can tell which half that is
 
2012-12-17 01:18:39 PM  

Thunderpipes: hammettman: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

THIS

And sadly, it's too soon or too sad to call her a dumbass because polite society says she should be pitied for dying horribly at the hands of her own child. No. fark her. And somebody on teevee no doubt put that B-52 loadfull of weapons grade derp in her pathetic brain. I'd love to know where she acquired that bs.

This is just plain stupid. Dems will just use this as mare ammo to chip away at rights. As terrible as this tragedy is, using it to erode the constitution is a slipper slope.

Cars kill far more people each year. Ban them too?

If you want to fix the problem, start being tough parents again. But liberals don't believe in that. Further left we go, the worse society gets.



Yes, start beating the severely mentally ill child with access to an arsenal, thats guaranteed to fix things.

How can you sincerely believe that massacres like this are an acceptable price to pay for your "right" to own instruments of death?
 
2012-12-17 01:18:44 PM  

thornhill: Satanic_Hamster: Coco LaFemme: Gee, who would have thought that being a paranoid survivalist stockpiling guns with a mentally disturbed child in the house would end up being a really stupid idea. I wish this woman wasn't dead because if her son hadn't shot her first, I'd be demanding her ass be put on trial for all 26 dead bodies her son racked up. She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.

In a way this makes more sense and I'm surprised that we haven't seen this as the cause of more shootings; if fear over the world ending was the motive for this guys shootings, he wouldn't be the first person to go on a killing spree because of that.

Whatever the reason you think the world is going to end (the Rapture, earthquakes, aliens, nuclear war, Obama, Mexicans, etc), if you spend years telling your kids that there's no hope for them to have a normal life ever, eventually you'll have people snap. I mean, why not? They've been told for years by their authority figure (be it a parent or religious leader) that there's no hope.

There have been a number recent militia plots to kill law enforcement officers and Sovereign Citizens have killed a number of police officers recently. It just doesn't get any national media attention because it happens in flyover country. The plotters typically get caught because they don't know the first rule about fight club. Check this out. What's unusually about the Newtown shooting was that schools kids were targeted instead of a representative of the Federal Government.


Link is to my local area. No one here was ever afraid of this "militia", save one of it's own members and his girlfriend, who they offed, thus ruining their own plans.
 
2012-12-17 01:18:44 PM  

nitefallz: HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

Lazy troll is extremely lazy


Yeah, -3
 
2012-12-17 01:18:48 PM  

Heathen: so having a couple hundred rounds of ammo in your house makes you a prepper?

I was a prepper and didn't even know it.


If that's the case, I'm an international small dealer.

\I get a call from Midsouth every time I order.... "Hey Fapp, did you actually order 40,000 pistol primers or did your cat step on the zero key?"
 
2012-12-17 01:18:51 PM  

El_Frijole_Blanco: So a Teabagger then

 

I live with my mom
 
2012-12-17 01:19:00 PM  
"I'll use what it takes to get by"

encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com
 
2012-12-17 01:19:01 PM  
I used to run into numerous whack-jobs like this when I was a NRA member.

/One of the reasons I quit the NRA
 
2012-12-17 01:19:11 PM  

JRoo: I would almost bet that her son had his own key, just in case the evil conspiracies started coming through the door.

I'm guessing someone so focused on the pretend fantasies they're preparing for in their own head isn't going to be a very attentive parent.


Very likely. But, if she had them "locked up", like from him, and he was able to get to them, that's pretty obviously a shiatty job of locking them up.
 
2012-12-17 01:19:12 PM  
Events like this make me glad of the system we have in Canada. We have more guns per capita then the US but handguns are restricted to sport shooters with a special license and fully automatic weapons are banned.

What is more vital and in my opinion the best way of controlling insane behavior like this but without having to restrict the right of hunters and sport shooters is the limit we have on magazine size. It is illegal in Canada to sell a magazine larger then 5 rounds. This by definition slows down the ability of someone to cause one of these tragedies and does not affect hunters. (seriously if you need more then 5 shots the deer is gone man).

To me this seems an easy thing to do to protect peoples rights and protect the rest of us from those people expressing their rights.
 
2012-12-17 01:19:28 PM  

fappomatic: Heathen: so having a couple hundred rounds of ammo in your house makes you a prepper?

I was a prepper and didn't even know it.

If that's the case, I'm an international small arms dealer.

\I get a call from Midsouth every time I order.... "Hey Fapp, did you actually order 40,000 pistol primers or did your cat step on the zero key?"


FTFM...damned codeine cough syrup.
 
2012-12-17 01:19:39 PM  

Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

I have 2 guns, a shotgun and a rifle, both of which I iniherited from my father. They've been locked in a safe for 30 years, until a month ago when there was an escaped prisoner loose in our neighborhood. I got out the shotgun, loaded it with the chamber empty, and kept it with me until we got the all clear, at which time I unloaded it and locked it back in the safe. untilk that night, my kids didn't know that I had any guns.

You Sir, are an idiot.


Hopefully one day you don't decide to off your wife and kids and shoot up your workplace. Because you might, at any point for any reason.

Basically I'll reserve judgement on your level of responsibility until after you die. Then we can look at totals.
 
2012-12-17 01:19:47 PM  

meatsack_01: utahraptor2: If a teacher would have been armed, he wouldn't have gotten very far.
This


That's the solution, for sure--have every person in the public eye be heavily armed. Is it fun going around thinking that the best way to run our society is by acting like we're in a constant state of civil war? Maybe if you live in fantasy-land, which I"m convinced a lot of you guys do.
 
2012-12-17 01:19:52 PM  
causes-prod.caudn.com
 
2012-12-17 01:20:22 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.

If she had them properly secured in a gun safe, she wouldn't have been able to get them out in time to repel the coming North Korean invasion.


AVENGE ME SON!!!!! AVEEEEEEEEEENGEEEEE MEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
 
2012-12-17 01:20:49 PM  

Mattyb710: Is this the thread where we blame a victim instead of the farking whackjob that murdered all those children?


The victim trained and supplied the whackjob.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:05 PM  
Ceiling Cat needs to stop watching people masturbate and start smiting massacrer'ers before they massacre.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:11 PM  

dittybopper: Vegan Meat Popsicle: But remember. Requiring people to have safety locks on their guns and report them when they're lost or stolen is a grievous assault on liberty.

Quite literally, you are correct: The Supreme Court has ruled that requiring that guns be inoperable is a violation of the Second Amendment. It's settled law.

As for reporting them lost or stolen, that's hard to do with your face shot off.


Hardly unique among the stupid decisions made throughout the Court's history, but it doesn't preclude requiring that the guns be secured.

dittybopper: As for reporting them lost or stolen, that's hard to do with your face shot off.


Ah, yes. You must be another one of those "responsible gun owners" I keep hearing about. A man in a perpetual state of pants-wetting paranoia about the very low possibility that somebody might break into his occupied home and attempt to harm him or his family.

Meanwhile, I"m sure you drive somewhere on almost a daily basis. A routine act of willing submission to a much, MUCH greater risk of harm than the possibility of some skeery thug the size of a barn breaking in your front door and trying to kill you.

Keep on 'derpin. Ain't nothing like nine to ten thousand firearms deaths a year as payment for you to keep pretending you're Mad Farking Max.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:13 PM  
i1253.photobucket.com
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:21 PM  

meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]


Funny - last week the Right felt that public school teachers were worthless moochers off the teat of the Job Creators. This week, they want them all carrying assault rifles.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:36 PM  

Coco LaFemme: She helped create the monster, she should have been made to pay for it.


Well, actually, she did.
 
2012-12-17 01:21:44 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Crewmannumber6: HotWingConspiracy: There is no such thing as a responsible gun owner.

I have 2 guns, a shotgun and a rifle, both of which I iniherited from my father. They've been locked in a safe for 30 years, until a month ago when there was an escaped prisoner loose in our neighborhood. I got out the shotgun, loaded it with the chamber empty, and kept it with me until we got the all clear, at which time I unloaded it and locked it back in the safe. untilk that night, my kids didn't know that I had any guns.

You Sir, are an idiot.

Hopefully one day you don't decide to off your wife and kids and shoot up your workplace. Because you might, at any point for any reason.

Basically I'll reserve judgement on your level of responsibility until after you die. Then we can look at totals.


Glad to see you're keeping an open mind
 
2012-12-17 01:22:31 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: maybe the press can stop covering stupid stories like the Mayan apocalypse.

get rid of shows like the Walking Dead too while you are at it.

hey, I like those stories!

on a more serious note - not all preppers are crazy, but a lot of crazy people are preppers. given the situation after hurricane katrina or again after hurricane sandy...preparing for a long term disruption of power and food distribution systems is starting to look like plain common sense and not an indication of crazy loonie toons insanity.


There is a big difference between being prepared for a disaster and being a "prepper." We live in SoCal, so I have a cupboard of canned food and bottled water that could feed us for about 2 weeks in case of an earthquake or other disaster. "Preppers," the type my parents are, think the apocalypse is nigh and hoard mounds of ammo, food, fuel, and make survival backpacks. My dad made us all backpacks when I was a teen that contained binoculars, water proof matches, a gas mask, MREs, you name it. He also thinks that when the world collapses, gold will be useful but ammo will be currency, so he has a reload kit. He has lists of things to prep with that he has printed from WND. Whackados, the lot of them.
 
2012-12-17 01:22:40 PM  

Generation_D: I guess we can start with the Ernst and Young VP dad. The one dumping the mom in 2009, the same year she quit her job to homeschool lil shooter Adam.


Because removing crazy people from your life means you are culpable for their actions forever afterward.

/is what a dumbshiat thinks
 
2012-12-17 01:22:40 PM  

meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]


Good luck threatening death to people planning to kill themselves in an attack.
 
2012-12-17 01:22:46 PM  

Phineas: congregate with other liberals


Wow, haven't heard the Liberal Hivemind™ canard in awhile.
 
2012-12-17 01:22:49 PM  

NightOwl2255: dittybopper: bulldg4life: She did a shiat job of securing her weapons, then.

How do we know? For all we know, she stored the guns in a safe, and the son stole the key while she was sleeping.

Which would be a shiatty job of securing her weapons.


OK, so what *WOULD* be a good job? Give me a foolproof method to keep a deranged family member from opening a gun safe.

I have a decent enough gun safe at home. Nothing fancy, but it's all metal, and it's got a lock on it, and 10 minutes with a sawsall and I could open it up without the key. I could probably pick the lock in about the same amount of time, but that includes improvising a rake and a tension lever out of paper clips. It would be quieter, though.

Fact is, short of installing a bank vault, there isn't much you can do to stop something like this: It was undoubtedly planned in advance. With advance planning, I could get a duplicate key made. All I need to know is the key blank number, and a quick outline of the key traced on paper: I did that myself as a teenager to make a key for the "senior lounge" at my school. Using a file, it took me all of 20 minutes to make a duplicate by hand, and I only had the original in my possession for about 30 seconds.

Of course, it's possible she didn't have a gun safe either.

My point is that just because her 20 year old son, who lived in the house, figured out how to get the guns, that doesn't necessarily mean they weren't properly secured.
 
2012-12-17 01:22:58 PM  
Wolf_blitzer

Just callin 'em as I sees 'em. This thread (and the article) contain mostly liberals who confuse the tools used to perpetrate the crime with the mental condition of the people who perpetrate them. This kid could've just as easily driven a truck through the side of the building and crushed a classroom. In fact, that would've been easier. But yeah, its easier to blame guns.

I figured you liberals would enjoy knowing how I see you, as hand-wringing hens that flock together and come to irrational conclusions based on the facts at hand. And if there's something you can't quite grasp, you check with other liberals to find out what it is you should be thinking.
 
2012-12-17 01:23:07 PM  

Launch Code: [i1253.photobucket.com image 201x251]
It takes a human to commit the act. Do you blame the alcohol or the car for a drunk driving death? Of course the super libtard will reflect on soldiers using guns in battle. Are you then calling the people that defend us murderers?
Wake up leftys, evil people do evil things! Don't blame the tool for the destruction.


I keep seeing derp like this. Tell me - what is a firearm a "tool" for, other than the infliction of death or the threat of death?
 
2012-12-17 01:23:11 PM  

probesport: "Mrs Lanza, 52, was a 'prepper' - so called because they are preparing for a breakdown in civilized society - who apparently became obsessed with guns and taught Adam and his older brother, Ryan, how to shoot, even taking them to local ranges."

Oh my what a horrible, horrible person. She even took them to shooting ranges? Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?


Why not puppy farms with bounce houses?

Maybe he would rather have gone there but she wouldn't take him and made him learn how to be an efficient killer instead.

I think most people are pretty crazy until they reach about their upper twenties.
 
2012-12-17 01:23:38 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese:

The press and hollywood could have a bit of restraint and not put out those stories or those types of shows.


So tell me, what types of "stories" do you approve of? You're living proof that true believers are at best joyless douchebags
 
2012-12-17 01:24:12 PM  

meatsack_01: [causes-prod.caudn.com image 640x636]


You mean before or after somebody gets shot by accident, Louie?

Launch Code: Don't blame the tool for the destruction.


Don't worry, we don't blame you.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:20 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Sleeping Monkey: She gets the fail award of the year for believing that having assault weapons in her home would make her safe. Now that entire community is paying for her ignorance.

If she had them properly secured in a gun safe, she wouldn't have been able to get them out in time to repel the coming North Korean invasion.


I've never under stood the 'ever armed' argument since it completely contradicts 'all guns were locked up safe and sound' argument.

Then again I'm trying to assign logic to Tea Party Patriots (aka 'nuts')
 
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