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2012-12-17 01:45:37 AM  
I'm a Yankees fan, but there's no way they're #3. A bunch of question marks as a result of injuries, thus far no upgrades in the offseason, everyone is a year older. I'm not saying they should be in the bottom five, but come on now.
 
2012-12-17 02:08:02 AM  
This is such bullshiat, but Giants fans seem to always have to endure this kind of crap. Whatever, I listened to it in 2010 and again this year from Joe Buck and whatever that other dick's name is all through the post-season, right up until the G-men WON THE GODDAMNED WORLD SERIES. They never did admit they were wrong the whole farking time, just like this dick won't when the Giants dominate the NL West again in 2013.

GO GIANTS!!!
 
2012-12-17 10:40:22 AM  
FTA: But the reason to still like the Yankees is simple: They have the deepest rotation in the AL

WAT?
 
2012-12-17 12:02:00 PM  

RodneyToady: I'm a Yankees fan, but there's no way they're #3. A bunch of question marks as a result of injuries, thus far no upgrades in the offseason, everyone is a year older. I'm not saying they should be in the bottom five, but come on now.


Huge question mark with Mo, too. Maybe in the top ten, but come on, Detroit humiliated them this past postseason.
 
2012-12-17 12:07:37 PM  
If the Giants didn't get to play 194 games against the Cubs, Pads, Rockies and Astros last year, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Kudos to them for getting hot at the right time, but I don't think too many people would rank them in the top 8 of MLB going into 2013.
 
2012-12-17 12:11:43 PM  

RodneyToady: I'm a Yankees fan, but there's no way they're #3. A bunch of question marks as a result of injuries, thus far no upgrades in the offseason, everyone is a year older. I'm not saying they should be in the bottom five, but come on now.


i agree. being a yanks fan i dont see them as #3. i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.
 
2012-12-17 12:12:26 PM  

dudemanbro: This is such bullshiat, but Giants fans seem to always have to endure this kind of crap. Whatever, I listened to it in 2010 and again this year from Joe Buck and whatever that other dick's name is all through the post-season, right up until the G-men WON THE GODDAMNED WORLD SERIES. They never did admit they were wrong the whole farking time, just like this dick won't when the Giants dominate the NL West again in 2013.

GO GIANTS!!!


Yup. It's all luck according to the 'experts'.

And the reason why he left them off the list is such BS: The Giants have elected to stand pat, which is what they did from 2010 to 2011 (bringing back Aubrey Huff and Cody Ross, for example), and that team missed the playoffs.

How about the fact that we were missing Buster Posey for most of the year and Pablo Sandoval (you know the guy that went 4 for 4 with 3 home runs in game 1 against the 'unstoppable' pitcher whose knob all the sports writers not in the Bay Area were slobbering over) for most of the summer. Almost all our big name offense was on IR and the Giants were still in the playoff hunt through September.

Absolutely no respect for the team from the media.
 
2012-12-17 12:12:48 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: If the Giants didn't get to play 194 games against the Cubs, Pads, Rockies and Astros last year, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Kudos to them for getting hot at the right time, but I don't think too many people would rank them in the top 8 of MLB going into 2013.


The cubs and astros were in the NL central...you know, where the Cardinals and Reds play?

The Giants have a top-three rotation (at worst). A top-three bullpen, and hitters that can do what is necessary. Plus, they have Buster Posey.

The only team that should be even arguably ranked ahead of them right now is the Nats
 
2012-12-17 12:14:26 PM  
No way the Reds regress at all after last year.

///Go Brewers...sob...sob.
 
2012-12-17 12:14:30 PM  

ignatius_crumbcake: FTA: But the reason to still like the Yankees is simple: They have the deepest rotation in the AL

WAT?


Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, a presumably healthy Pineda and take your pick of Hughes or Nova to round it out.

ITGreen: RodneyToady: I'm a Yankees fan, but there's no way they're #3. A bunch of question marks as a result of injuries, thus far no upgrades in the offseason, everyone is a year older. I'm not saying they should be in the bottom five, but come on now.

Huge question mark with Mo, too. Maybe in the top ten, but come on, Detroit humiliated them this past postseason.


The Yankees did more to humiliate themselves, but I'm not gonna restart THAT argument.

Right now I have the AL East as a tossup. I genuinely could see the Yanks, Os, Rays or Jays taking the division.
 
2012-12-17 12:16:06 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: The Giants have elected to stand pat,


which was by far the smartest move in this market. BJ Upton got wildly overpaid, as did Victorino and Ross (neither of whom are better than Pagan). Scutaro was the best second baseman on the market, and Affeldt was the best lefty reliever on the market. why not stand pat? Belt will come into his own, as will Crawford. Sandoval is a beast, Posey is a beast, and when hot so is Pence. Blanco is an excellent defensive OF. the Giants are the team to beat in the NL west next year, regardless of how much the dodgers are trying to buy that moniker.
 
2012-12-17 12:17:02 PM  
Go Braves!

Also, I really don't like the idea of Francisco, Reed, Constanza being the "not Prado" options for left and 3rd.
 
2012-12-17 12:17:06 PM  

Freakin Rican: i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.


OK, is this just sticking out in people's minds because it's their most recent memory? Do you really have any reason to believe that the Yankees' behavior in the playoffs will be their season norm?
 
2012-12-17 12:17:12 PM  

Freakin Rican: RodneyToady: I'm a Yankees fan, but there's no way they're #3. A bunch of question marks as a result of injuries, thus far no upgrades in the offseason, everyone is a year older. I'm not saying they should be in the bottom five, but come on now.

i agree. being a yanks fan i dont see them as #3. i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.


Remember, when it comes to the Yankees, ESPN is like the YES Network, but with less objectivity.

I'm stunned the Indians didn't make the Top Te...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, no couldn't do it.
 
2012-12-17 12:18:37 PM  

The Bestest: Freakin Rican: i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.

OK, is this just sticking out in people's minds because it's their most recent memory? Do you really have any reason to believe that the Yankees' behavior in the playoffs will be their season norm?


I've been led to believe that those were the most important 5 games in Yankee history.
 
2012-12-17 12:24:17 PM  

DeWayne Mann: The Bestest: Freakin Rican: ***snip***

I've been led to believe that those were the most important 5 games in Yankee history.


It's the Yankee WayTM.
 
2012-12-17 12:35:58 PM  

The Bestest: Freakin Rican: i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.

OK, is this just sticking out in people's minds because it's their most recent memory? Do you really have any reason to believe that the Yankees' behavior in the playoffs will be their season norm?


No, they had a +136 run diff, were second in RS, led the MLB in HR (as well as SLG & OPS) but you can't simply go by the stats, you need to go by feel. I just feel like they won't hit.
 
2012-12-17 12:37:02 PM  
ESPN: Sucking the cock of the Northeast media markets since 1985.
 
2012-12-17 12:40:31 PM  
Go Reds! Go Krogering!
 
2012-12-17 12:40:59 PM  

The Bestest: Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, a presumably healthy Pineda and take your pick of Hughes or Nova to round it out.


Sabathia is coming off bone spur surgery. Not exactly Tommy John surgery, but still.
Kuroda was wonderful last year, but he'll be 38 when the season starts.
Pettitte is 40.
Pineda is far from a safe bet to be healthy, as his surgery was major.
And once you get to the #5 starter, "mediocre" is actually good.

So, it's Sabathia, then hope neither age nor infirmity catches up with the rotation.

Can they win the AL East? It's not impossible. Can they miss the playoffs entirely? It's not impossible.

I'm somewhat resigned to the possibility that it'll be LA vs LAA come October.
 
2012-12-17 12:41:04 PM  
Ha! +1 subs. I wanted to see my revamped Jays on there, then I realized the list was BS anyways.
 
2012-12-17 12:53:05 PM  

The Bestest: Freakin Rican: i mean they couldnt hit anything against detriot and just the injuries and being a year older.i dont know, we'll see.

OK, is this just sticking out in people's minds because it's their most recent memory? Do you really have any reason to believe that the Yankees' behavior in the playoffs will be their season norm?


with me i guess a lil bit Bestest. i know how well they hit during the year. i dont know. just alot of questions come up. i didnt mean to say they suck. just in my opinion they werent top 3. but reading thru your other post i see what your saying.
 
2012-12-17 12:53:05 PM  
They got number 1 right. Best starting rotation in baseball.
 
2012-12-17 12:59:09 PM  
..the NL West is of particular interest to me this year.
The Dodgers are expected to have baseball's highest payroll, so I'm just wondering if they fail to do anything but run away with the division, would they receive the same scorn and derision that the Yankees have had these past couple of decades?
 
2012-12-17 01:06:06 PM  

The Bestest: Sabathia, Kuroda, Pettitte, a presumably healthy Pineda and take your pick of Hughes or Nova to round it out.


Oh, it's not a terrible rotation, but calling it the deepest in the AL is ridiculous. The Tigers are way deeper, and the Rangers, Rays (even without Shields) and maybe even the A's are about the same.
 
2012-12-17 01:06:54 PM  

RodneyToady:
I'm somewhat resigned to the possibility that it'll be LA vs LAA come October.


You notice the Halos weren't on the list either?
 
2012-12-17 01:09:19 PM  

The Bestest: ..the NL West is of particular interest to me this year.
The Dodgers are expected to have baseball's highest payroll, so I'm just wondering if they fail to do anything but run away with the division, would they receive the same scorn and derision that the Yankees have had these past couple of decades?


lol no.
yanks will always get shiat about payroll. doesnt apply to other teams. i would love to see LA with the highest meet the yanks when they get the payroll down and have the yanks beat them. then it would be interesting to see what people say
 
2012-12-17 01:12:29 PM  

RodneyToady: I'm somewhat resigned to the possibility that it'll be LA vs LAA come October.


I'm not sold on the Angels. Greinke is gone, Hamilton will be a marginal upgrade over Hunter's stellar 2012 season and Trout will regress. Plus Pujols has been on a steady decline for 5 years. Not saying they won't make the playoffs, but the A's and Rangers are still good teams and the Angels aren't really any better than they were in 2012.
 
2012-12-17 01:14:40 PM  
FYI... the blurb at the end about the Giants was added after the comments melted down. Clearly, he is having regrets.
 
2012-12-17 01:15:38 PM  
Where are the D-backs? This is bullshiat.
 
2012-12-17 01:17:04 PM  

neuroflare: Where are the D-backs? This is bullshiat.


3rd -at best- in their division?
 
2012-12-17 01:22:16 PM  
I like seeing the A's at #6, but power rankings are never worth much, particularly four months before the season begins.

That being said, I'm not sold on Tampa Bay as a Top 10 team. There were five teams ahead of them last season, with the Blue Jays figuring to be better in their division. They lost a frontline starter and a valuable swing man, and while Wil Myers is supposedly pretty good, will his offense compensate for the decreased pitching depth?

Also, much as I loathe them, the Giants belong somewhere on the list.
 
2012-12-17 01:25:30 PM  

CipollinaFan: They got number 1 right. Best starting rotation in baseball.


Eh, I like Detroit just as well. Some of the numbers slightly lean towards one team or the other but getting to pitch to a pitcher instead of a DH a few times a game certainly helps one's numbers.

Then again, probably a homer on this one. I just really, really like Verlander, Scherzer, Fister, and Sanchez. Plus, that Smyly kid is pretty good.

I'm not saying that the Nationals are shiat. Don't get me wrong. That's damn, damn scary and as good as the NL gets. I just think that a case can be made that the Tigers' starters are just as good.
 
2012-12-17 01:27:17 PM  

Freakin Rican: The Bestest: ***snip***
lol no.
yanks will always get shiat about payroll. doesnt apply to other teams. i would love to see LA with the highest meet the yanks when they get the payroll down and have the yanks beat them. then it would be interesting to see what people say


I am guessing this is why they get more crap about payroll than other teams: 

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-17 01:28:38 PM  

The Bestest: neuroflare: Where are the D-backs? This is bullshiat.

3rd -at best- in their division?


fark that and fark you

/I keed
//I know we won't be very good
///why the fark did we pull the plug on Bauer for another shortstop without a bat.
 
2012-12-17 01:42:04 PM  
ESPN forgets about the Blue Jays? Why I don't even.
 
2012-12-17 01:53:07 PM  

RoyFokker'sGhost: dudemanbro: This is such bullshiat, but Giants fans seem to always have to endure this kind of crap. Whatever, I listened to it in 2010 and again this year from Joe Buck and whatever that other dick's name is all through the post-season, right up until the G-men WON THE GODDAMNED WORLD SERIES. They never did admit they were wrong the whole farking time, just like this dick won't when the Giants dominate the NL West again in 2013.

GO GIANTS!!!

Yup. It's all luck according to the 'experts'.

And the reason why he left them off the list is such BS: The Giants have elected to stand pat, which is what they did from 2010 to 2011 (bringing back Aubrey Huff and Cody Ross, for example), and that team missed the playoffs.

How about the fact that we were missing Buster Posey for most of the year and Pablo Sandoval (you know the guy that went 4 for 4 with 3 home runs in game 1 against the 'unstoppable' pitcher whose knob all the sports writers not in the Bay Area were slobbering over) for most of the summer. Almost all our big name offense was on IR and the Giants were still in the playoff hunt through September.

Absolutely no respect for the team from the media.


It was pretty freaking lucky (for the Giants at least) that Brandon Phillips decided to ignore his third base coach and try to be a hero.
 
2012-12-17 01:53:10 PM  
We're doing power rankings midway through the offseason now?
 
2012-12-17 01:59:44 PM  

Rex_Banner: We're doing power rankings midway through the offseason now?


There's no hockey so we need something to talk about.
 
2012-12-17 02:00:23 PM  
I've also left off the Blue Jays, Angels and Orioles. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Phillies make a run at the NL East title or the Brewers and Diamondbacks to return to the playoffs. The Red Sox will be better than everyone believes. The White Sox won 85 games. Plus, is there an Oakland or Baltimore in our midst this season? If there's anything that strikes me, it's that making these kinds of predictions are more difficult than ever. I just listed 19 teams that could win the World Series and it wouldn't be that shocking.

Yes, it would.

/Sox fan.
 
2012-12-17 02:00:53 PM  

Rex_Banner: We're doing power rankings midway through the offseason now?


Well, it's that or NFL mock drafts for most of us.
 
2012-12-17 02:19:13 PM  

Why Would I Read the Article: If the Giants didn't get to play 194 games against the Cubs, Pads, Rockies and Astros last year, they wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Kudos to them for getting hot at the right time, but I don't think too many people would rank them in the top 8 of MLB going into 2013.


Lol
 
2012-12-17 02:32:22 PM  
Geez, Giant fans have a land sand up in there.

You're defending champs; when someone says something like this you get say "haters gonna hate, but kiss the ring."
 
2012-12-17 02:35:02 PM  

Moopy Mac: It was pretty freaking lucky (for the Giants at least) that Brandon Phillips decided to ignore his third base coach and try to be a hero.


I really never get this argument- taking advantage of the other team's screwup isn't luck, it's what sport is. You know- one team is better than the other, manages not to make dumb mistakes, takes advantage of the situation...
 
2012-12-17 02:37:15 PM  

dudemanbro: This is such bullshiat, but Giants fans seem to always have to endure this kind of crap. Whatever, I listened to it in 2010 and again this year from Joe Buck and whatever that other dick's name is all through the post-season, right up until the G-men WON THE GODDAMNED WORLD SERIES. They never did admit they were wrong the whole farking time, just like this dick won't when the Giants dominate the NL West again in 2013.

GO GIANTS!!!


That does get annoying, but at this point, I just feel like "Yeah, San Francisco- yet again- doesn't care what you think, and we're gonna do our thing and have fun doing it, and you can just watch how things fall out.

farm5.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-17 03:03:43 PM  

bacongood: Geez, Giant fans have a land sand up in there.

You're defending champs; when someone says something like this you get say "haters gonna hate, but kiss the ring."


I prefer the "I can't hear you, my head is still ringing from the hangover I got when my team WON THE farkING WORLD SERIES."

/Tigers fan, so don't get to say it. :(
 
2012-12-17 03:11:20 PM  
Yankees have a damn good rotation, and a great bullpen, so they no longer need to score 9 runs a game. A full year of Gardner and Ichiro gives them speed, which might produce runs where lumbering and or old guys like Jones or Martin would be held up. It'll be a different team, but they'll be fine.
 
2012-12-17 03:14:11 PM  
Giants should definitely be in there somewhere, maybe not in the top couple spots, but surely in the top 10!

Nats, Yanks, Reds, and Tigers all seem like excellent choices. Those teams happened to get cold during the playoffs at different times and couldn't really recover. That's what happens in baseball. But there's also something to be said about the Giants NOT hitting a cold streak in the playoffs. Two World Series rings in three years with only mild to moderate changes in personnel must count for something.
 
2012-12-17 03:20:43 PM  

hbk72777: old guys like Jones


Andruw signed a 1 year deal with the Rakuten Eagles.. I'm very interested to see how he does.
 
2012-12-17 03:26:08 PM  

roc6783: No way the Reds regress at all after last year.

///Go Brewers...sob...sob.


You are forgetting a big weakness the Reds have. In fact, it is a weakness that is likely impossible to overcome, no matter how talented the rest of the team is.

That weakness is summed up in two words: Dusty Baker.
 
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