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(New York Daily News)   Old and busted: sneaking panties out of Victoria's Secret without paying. New hotness: sneaking panties into Victoria's Secret   (nydailynews.com) divider line 89
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2012-12-17 01:14:19 AM  
Well that is undoubtedly a crushing blow in the war against sexual violence.
 
2012-12-17 01:24:18 AM  
nonassimilationist feminists

This should be good.
 
2012-12-17 01:47:11 AM  
"nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?
 
2012-12-17 01:53:14 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


They want to be different, like everybody else they want to be like. They want to be just like all the different people.

They have no further interest in being the same, because they have seen difference all around, and now they know that's what they want.

They don't want to blend in and be indistinguishable; they want to be a part of the different crowd, and assert their individuality along with the others who are different like them.

/I know, it's Sunday, not Saturday. Sorry.
 
2012-12-17 02:09:55 AM  
Damn you, Poe's Law!
 
2012-12-17 02:33:22 AM  
Well, it's the fault of Victoria's Secret anyway. With clothing like that, they're just asking for it.
 
2012-12-17 02:44:04 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


A subset of radical feminism tasked with fighting the Borg.


But that's not important right now.....
 
2012-12-17 03:06:28 AM  

Apos: BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?

A subset of radical feminism tasked with fighting the Borg.


But that's not important right now.....


So what you're saying is that their cause us futile?
 
2012-12-17 03:09:06 AM  
Victoria's Secret panties are already consent-themed.

Costco 10-pack Playtex granny panties are not so themed.
 
2012-12-17 03:16:04 AM  

RedPhoenix122: Apos: BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?

A subset of radical feminism tasked with fighting the Borg.


But that's not important right now.....

So what you're saying is that their cause us futile?


Precisely.
 
2012-12-17 03:58:04 AM  
Countdown before someone realizes they can make a shiatload of money selling those sarcastic "no means no" panties, and a copyright/counterfeiting/trade dress lawsuit gets filed.
 
2012-12-17 04:58:46 AM  
Panties aren't the best thing ever but they are right next to it.
 
2012-12-17 04:59:55 AM  
Pointless, but on the other hand, at least they didn't just post another grumpy tumblr rant.
 
2012-12-17 05:02:25 AM  

dbirchall: BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?

They want to be different, like everybody else they want to be like. They want to be just like all the different people.

They have no further interest in being the same, because they have seen difference all around, and now they know that's what they want.

They don't want to blend in and be indistinguishable; they want to be a part of the different crowd, and assert their individuality along with the others who are different like them.

/I know, it's Sunday, not Saturday. Sorry.


So they're like hipster whores or something?
 
2012-12-17 05:15:29 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


I suppose this means they are the hipsters of feminism?
 
2012-12-17 05:17:56 AM  
There is a group of feminazis at my local university who periodically do "consent" themed events around campus. I know their intentions are good, but their methods are totally useless. Kind of like what's described in this article.
 
2012-12-17 05:25:06 AM  

Macular Degenerate: There is a group of feminazis at my local university who periodically do "consent" themed events around campus. I know their intentions are good, but their methods are totally useless. Kind of like what's described in this article.


What exactly does that mean? They stand around and wait for guys to ask them for sex then turn them down?
 
2012-12-17 05:27:29 AM  

Macular Degenerate: There is a group of feminazis at my local university who periodically do "consent" themed events around campus. I know their intentions are good, but their methods are totally useless. Kind of like what's described in this article.


Do they ever give consent?
 
2012-12-17 05:30:59 AM  

Macular Degenerate: There is a group of feminazis at my local university who periodically do "consent" themed events around campus. I know their intentions are good, but their methods are totally useless. Kind of like what's described in this article.


Unless you are a professor there, which I doubt you will learn people like that normally grow out of it. Otherwise wwhat I'm saying is what happens on a campus nowadays has no baring on the real world and you should be happy about that.
 
2012-12-17 05:40:22 AM  
What were they even doing, wandering out of the kitchen like that?
 
2012-12-17 05:55:33 AM  
I love panties. I would go broke buying VS for my girl. I wonder what the panty dropper looks like. I won't rtfa so I can pretend that she's hot. A hot panty dropping biatch. With a beer. And birth control.
 
2012-12-17 06:20:28 AM  
This seems legitimate.
 
2012-12-17 06:22:00 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Countdown before someone realizes they can make a shiatload of money selling those sarcastic "no means no" panties, and a copyright/counterfeiting/trade dress lawsuit gets filed.


FTFA

Many supporters were only upset that they could not actually purchase the consent-themed panties on FORCE's website. The group believes that the project is protected under fair use since it is merely spoofing the company, but it would likely get sued if it turned a profit with the company's intellectual property.
 
2012-12-17 06:31:45 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already:
/silly wimmenz
//vaginaz is for kidz kids vaginaz is for

 ...


Um... Thought I had a joke for that, but maybe not.

/taking a seat over there
 
2012-12-17 06:34:52 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Countdown before someone realizes they can make a shiatload of money selling those sarcastic "no means no" panties, and a copyright/counterfeiting/trade dress lawsuit gets filed.


As a woman, I appreciate what they're trying to do...but it still seems silly and doesn't make me feel any more empowered.
 
2012-12-17 07:33:08 AM  
consent enthusiasts

t.qkme.me
 
2012-12-17 07:33:46 AM  

tiamet4: HotWingAgenda: Countdown before someone realizes they can make a shiatload of money selling those sarcastic "no means no" panties, and a copyright/counterfeiting/trade dress lawsuit gets filed.

As a woman, I appreciate what they're trying to do...but it still seems silly and doesn't make me feel any more empowered.


That's what cars are for.
 
2012-12-17 07:43:20 AM  
I like the panties that say "Ask First". Next time I see a potential partner, I will merely ask politely "May I please have sex with you?", and wait for the response.
 
2012-12-17 07:43:46 AM  

RobSeace: consent enthusiasts


Hey, what's wrong with consenting enthusiastically?
 
2012-12-17 07:52:27 AM  
"I was in the process of brutally violating her when I noticed the words on her panties and repented of my misguided ways," said no rapist ever in the history of the universe.
 
2012-12-17 07:58:00 AM  

mikemoto: I like the panties that say "Ask First". Next time I see a potential partner, I will merely ask politely "May I please have sex with you?", and wait for the response.



If you are to the point where you can read the writing on the panties...
 
2012-12-17 08:03:07 AM  
"That Time of the Month"?

"Got Crabs"?
 
2012-12-17 08:06:45 AM  
I can only assume the great irony of "consent" slogans written on panties is lost on the group that planted them.
 
2012-12-17 08:17:05 AM  
it's actually kinda cool. but then i'm a lingerie fan. so...
 
2012-12-17 08:26:37 AM  

dbirchall: RobSeace: consent enthusiasts

Hey, what's wrong with consenting enthusiastically?


Nothing, though the idea that consent given with anything other than the utmost enthusiasm is void is going rather too far.
 
2012-12-17 08:28:26 AM  

ZzeusS: mikemoto: I like the panties that say "Ask First". Next time I see a potential partner, I will merely ask politely "May I please have sex with you?", and wait for the response.


If you are to the point where you can read the writing on the panties...


And if the girl is passed out, then maybe the panties will remind you that just because you can undo buttons and a zipper, you don't actually have consent yet.
 
2012-12-17 08:30:32 AM  

Millennium: dbirchall: RobSeace: consent enthusiasts

Hey, what's wrong with consenting enthusiastically?

Nothing, though the idea that consent given with anything other than the utmost enthusiasm is void is going rather too far.


It's a reaction to the opposing concept that we see parroted by politicians, police, judges, etc. that if refusing consent isn't loud and accompanied by violent fighting, then it doesn't count. At worst, one results in rape, and the other results in two people who are about to have sex feeling slightly silly for half a second. Oh, noes.
 
2012-12-17 08:34:26 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


Essentially, this is a group that is not interested in mainstream acceptance; it sees its marginalized status as a confirmation that it hasn't made any compromises, and revels in that fact. Or, to put it another way, it refuses to assimilate.
 
2012-12-17 08:39:38 AM  
Cacao
 
2012-12-17 08:46:46 AM  
(girlfriend calling a department store) Yes, I have a question regarding your... um... underwear bins?

(clerk) Underwear bins??

(girlfriend) Oh yes, see my fiance here has informed me that he bought a pair of dirty women's underwear out of one of your bins, and I just wanted to hear your thoughts on this...

(clerk) My... My thoughts? On our... underwear bins?
Yes. (pause) These are my thoughts... I'm sick of it. Its some college kids playing a prank. They've been putting dirty underwear in our bins.

(girlfriend) What?

(clerk) Yes, on behalf of Spend-mart I'd like to apologize. Tell you what, why don't you have your fiance come on down and we'll exchange them for a fresh pair, or even refund your money. Okay? Bye-bye now... (she hangs up, baffled) Poor bastard...
 
2012-12-17 08:53:57 AM  
I recently had to spend a whole week with a hardcore feminist.
She never stopped talking about how women are treated as inferiors, pointing out things that upset her in every film or TV show we watched. Started to grate on me after a while.

Well, towards the end of the week, I managed to sneak into her room and took a look at her underwear. She had TONS of high end Victoria Secret bras and panties. Like, a whole dresser full.

It was nice to know that even a ball-busting feminist likes to wear sexy underclothes.

/No, I didn't steal anything.

//Yes, that story really had no point.
 
2012-12-17 08:55:52 AM  

Theaetetus: ZzeusS: mikemoto: I like the panties that say "Ask First". Next time I see a potential partner, I will merely ask politely "May I please have sex with you?", and wait for the response.


If you are to the point where you can read the writing on the panties...

And if the girl is passed out, then maybe the panties will remind you that just because you can undo buttons and a zipper, you don't actually have consent yet.


I know right. It should be madatory to carry a contract and a notary when you go out on a date. Then there will never be a problem.
 
2012-12-17 08:57:00 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


I Googled "nonassimilationist feminism", and the first two links I got were TFA and this thread.

So I guess we can define it any way we want, and we will be considered the authority on the matter.
 
2012-12-17 08:57:22 AM  

doczoidberg:
//Yes, that story really had no point.


I thought your point was that if someone has different beliefs than you, you'll violate their privacy in an effort to find dirt on them.
 
2012-12-17 08:59:01 AM  

Cybernetic: BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?

I Googled "nonassimilationist feminism", and the first two links I got were TFA and this thread.

So I guess we can define it any way we want, and we will be considered the authority on the matter.


It's on their website:
What type of feminists are you?
We are not assimiliationists. To us, feminism is about creating an entirely new system, not finding ways to fit in to the existing, failing one. We live in a world and a culture that still blames survivors instead of blaming rapists and that encourages potential victims to change their behaviors instead of teaching people not to rape. We want to make sure that women and survivors know that rape is not their fault, and is not caused by their expressions of sexuality or their choice in clothing or the amount they drank one night, but rather it is a result of a world obsessed with power and control. We want to promote a world in which enthusiastic consent is the norm, not discomfort, silence, and shame.

In addition to these views, we don't think that feminism should be restrictive or clearly defined, but instead should be something that invites participation and growth. It is going to take a lot of different tactics and a lot of different people to actually change the patriarchy and to end rape and rape culture. Limiting and judging the work does a disservice to feminism as a whole- though critique and challenges are welcome and encouraged. If you don't support our tactics, we still support you to go and do the work that you think needs to be done. Let's attack this from every angle possible! And in any case, maybe a more useful question would be, what kind of change are we creating and what is the work we are doing achieving?
 
2012-12-17 09:07:36 AM  

BarkingUnicorn: "nonassimilationist feminists"

Somebody want to explain that one to me?


The dildo goes both ways?

I have no idea.

/at least its an ethos.
//really, no idea.
 
2012-12-17 09:10:35 AM  

Oh_Enough_Already: Why don't these well reasoned and rational and convincing feminists simply stage a calm and quiet sit in at the offending stores?

Clearly, there's nothing off-putting about their message or tactics or methodology, no?


Why is the first guy shown looks like he only had pity sex and is there trying to upgrade to "you understand women" sex? Silly women, if a guy isn't already in a relationship with you when he agrees to protest rape with you, he is trying to get consent.

/or rape you
//that guy looked like if this doesn't work, someone is getting raped.
///maybe himself
 
2012-12-17 09:11:11 AM  
I would think that showing up in a Victoria's secret outfit for your boyfriend is the definition of enthusiastic consent.
 
2012-12-17 09:14:03 AM  

Theaetetus: doczoidberg:
//Yes, that story really had no point.

I thought your point was that if someone has different beliefs than you, you'll violate their privacy in an effort to find dirt on them.



I didn't do it to get dirt on anyone; I did it because that's how I get my jollies.
 
2012-12-17 09:39:11 AM  
the word panties makes me horny. is that wrong? does this happen to anyone else? is this part of the problem?
 
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