The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo./Hard to kill somebody with that.
The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo./Hard to kill somebody with that.Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?Wow.....what crawled up your ass?
tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.wut?How broad of a brush are you using to make that statement?How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?
TheJoe03: hubiestubert: Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...Whatever nerd, go suck a fark.
Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time
Jon iz teh kewl: Biness: the fact that this guy exists is the reason i own a gun.the reason police exist is to arrest u when u fire that thing
ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United NationsWhat, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?
tenpoundsofcheese: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?how did this guy ever afford $100k in ammo? is he a 1%er? did he steal it? I just don't get it.
Rockstone: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Want to protect kids in school? Put a strong security system, intake metal detector, bag check and armed (hopefully sane) professional guard or cop in every school.Short of the perp's Mom not owning firearms, or not giving her son access to them, there's nothing else that would have prevented the kids' murders. She was not under any obligation to secure her firearms. I doubt that she expected the perp to shoot her, otherwise she would have better secured them.Mental health checks for gun ownership would not have worked here, neither would increased mental health care if the perp was an adult refusing care.We must own up to the fact that violence in US society requires that, for safety, our schools must be set up like high security compounds, because that may have prevented this.Our other options are that we start finding remote educational alternatives to classrooms, or we put up with more school shootings.The only necessary thing is an armed cop at every school. Everything else is too much and it takes too much resources from education. School shootings, though horrifying, are extremely rare.
IlGreven: Rockstone: urban.derelict: This shiat pisses me off so much -- not to sidestep but I was checking out Notabunny's link on how they dropped Asperger's -- the headline in question reads"mass-murder Adam..." something -- HE'S NOT A MASS MURDERER HE'S A MULTIPLE MURDERERHitler, Stalin, Pol-Pot = mass murderersthis f*cking clown, cho, loughner, columbine pair: MULTIPLE-murderers/carry onYou glorify them too much if you dub them that. That's part of the problem. The media keeps glorifying the killers. And they probably want that, too. It brings in the ratings, and increases the likelihood it'll happen again....see, the problem I see is, just how many spree killers are actually attention whores? If they've gone to the trouble of killing people, they've gone far past the attention-whore stage, and onto the "final solution" stage. By that point, they're far past getting the attention that they need (rather than what they want), and just thinking about ending things. And the absolute worst thing you could do to people on that edge is to deny them all attention. I've said it in other threads, "Ignore it and it goes away" never works. And IMO, that doctrine was a chief cause of the shooting./Too many people use a telescope and a microscope for analysis, and ignore their own eyes.
BuckTurgidson: thisisarepeat: BuckTurgidson: thisisarepeat: BuckTurgidson: lewismarktwo: Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.I'll take that bet.He's got you. People "collect" every damn thing.See my followup, but that doesn't mean they're not fetishists.Shall we outlaw fetishes?Not at all. But we can all exercise our First-Amendment right to mock whichever fetishists we choose to mock. As a gun-owning supporter of concealed and open carry who does not support any form of "assault weapon ban" or similar firearms restrictions, I choose to mock gun fetishists.Because they are farked up psychos.
The more you eat the more you fart: thisisarepeat: The more you eat the more you fart: Rockstone: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.Hey, fark you!I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.Have a history of violence or oppositional/defiant behavior? If so, then no...I do not think you should be allowed to own firearms. Sorry.Its called the Lautenberg amendment and its ALREADY ON THE FARKING BOOKS!You farking tool.Perhaps I'd be more willing to listen to your viewpoint if you weren't such a gigantic douchebag.think about that for a minute....
Max Awesome: You know what really pisses me off? Why do POS parents always decide to get divorced when their kids are teenagers?The teenage years are the most emotionally-turbulent period of our youth, when we're flooded with new hormones and trying to develop our identities as young adults. A teenager naturally separates from their family at this point, but if they don't have any other social ties with their peers its the ABSOLUTE WORST time for selfish asshole parents to break up the family.This troubled kid was cut-adrift from any external emotional ties. Combined with the fact that his idiot mother took left guns laying around the house and took regularly took him out to the shooting range as a family outing, it's no wonder he became such an effective killer. She trained him to be a perfect killer of children.Seriously, why is target practice considered a wholesome family activity?! That's absolutely insane.
Curious: you have never been in jail have you? told every day, all day where to go, what to do when to do it, and you can't leave. and that's the real kicker, you aren't going anywhere.
gerbilpox: [www.theblaze.com image 528x333]Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?Just me? 'Kay./does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?
NarrMaster: And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...
Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.
The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.
BuckTurgidson: AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.Cop math.See also drug seizure threads.OK, Cop Math.So, let's divide by two and decrease by an order of magnitude. $100,000 / 2 / 10 = just $5,000 worth of ammo.Depending on the rounds, at ~$300/thousand rounds that's still around 16,000 rounds. 16 1,000-round cases of ammo, almost 500 lbs of bullets.
tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fireoh great, now we are going to have matches control.
Jae0o0: Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a timeNot if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.
Pardon Me Sultan: Also, I'll wager it isn't 47 guns + $100,000 worth of ammo.Dollars to donuts it's a botch reporting job and it's actually (Value of 47 guns + Value of ammo) > $100,000.
snuff3r: [newspaper.li image 470x313]Sneaky farking russians./boris!
tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?it's an interesting question, isn't it? would improving the mental health care system have helped prevent gun violence...?if nothing else, it certainly highlights yet another problem with the GOP worldview.you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.how would implementing 0bamacare have prevented the shooting?Did the killer not have access to any mental health care?Did he or his mom not have the money to go to a professional?If the mental healthcare were free, would he have gone to get help?
tenpoundsofcheese: How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?
Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fireoh great, now we are going to have matches control.i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?
Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.
namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?
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