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2012-12-16 11:25:09 PM

Popcorn Johnny: How tall are you?


5'11
 
2012-12-16 11:25:11 PM

The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.


Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?
 
2012-12-16 11:25:12 PM
He kind of looks like Willie Nelson's crazy cousin.
 
2012-12-16 11:25:32 PM

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?


$100,000 in guns and ammo. It wouldn't be that hard to get that in guns.
 
2012-12-16 11:25:42 PM
Gulper Eel

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

You know what she could have done?

NOT HAD farkING GUNS IN THE HOUSE WHERE CRAZY BOY COULD GET TO THEM.

He must have been showing a few signs of being crazy, why didn't she lock the guns up?
 
2012-12-16 11:25:57 PM

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?



Wow.....what crawled up your ass?
 
2012-12-16 11:25:59 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


There's a difference: matches can be used for multiple purposes. Guns only exist to kill.

Well, people used to use them for other things, but we have can openers and the like now.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:06 PM

Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time


Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:06 PM

sethen320: Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.


You act like he bragged about having a mansion.
 
2012-12-16 11:28:35 PM
Is it just me, or is there a complete absence of discussion about the availability of mental health care following this shooting?

Maybe it's just me.
 
2012-12-16 11:30:43 PM

The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?


Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.
 
2012-12-16 11:30:52 PM
I bet his manifesto is great.
 
2012-12-16 11:31:13 PM
Jae0o0
"Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time."

Someone's been watching to many Jason Stathom movies
 
2012-12-16 11:31:53 PM
Wait, I've got it.

Indiana man, with 47 guns and ammunition, worth over $100,000, arrested after threatening to "kill as many people as he could" at local elementary school


The dude is worth 100k not the ammo.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:23 PM

Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.


I don't know if I'm comin' or goin'; if it's them or me.
All I know is Willie Nelson only smoke killer weed.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:25 PM
STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:43 PM

sethen320: Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.



Ah.

I only brought in the $100K number because that was the dollar value mentioned in the headline....just referencing that.

/Water under the bridge.
 
2012-12-16 11:33:19 PM

Rich Cream: Wait, I've got it.

Indiana man, with 47 guns and ammunition, worth over $100,000, arrested after threatening to "kill as many people as he could" at local elementary school

The dude is worth 100k not the ammo.


I'm worth a million in prizes.
 
2012-12-16 11:33:26 PM
www.theblaze.com

Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?
 
2012-12-16 11:34:21 PM

The_Sponge: sethen320: Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.


Ah.

I only brought in the $100K number because that was the dollar value mentioned in the headline....just referencing that.

/Water under the bridge.


Ok, I get the misunderstanding. Sorry about that. I owe you a beer.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:00 PM

gerbilpox: [www.theblaze.com image 528x333]

Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?



I noticed it too...and it's probably from smoking.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:19 PM

Gdalescrboz: Jae0o0
"Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time."

Someone's been watching to many Jason Stathom movies


If you can't shoot two .22s at once, you're probably a child or sickly.I've never shot a .22 that had any kick to it. I wouldn't try it with larger calibers though.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:19 PM

doglover: Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.

I don't know if I'm comin' or goin'; if it's them or me.
All I know is Willie Nelson only smoke killer weed.



.....which is precisely why I wish this POS wasn't Willie's doppelgänger.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:25 PM

generallyso: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.

Cop math.


Not necessarily. He could have accumulated that much ammo over a long period of time. For example, if he was buying a few boxes of ammo every month for 10 or so years.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:26 PM

The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?


His mother was killed by a lunatic with a cheap condo, you insesitive jerk!
 
2012-12-16 11:36:06 PM
Man, that last LoG tour took it's toll on John Campbell.
www.theblaze.com
 
2012-12-16 11:37:15 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.


Oh, okay! How are you going to do that? Require a mental health screening for every firearm purcahsed? Mental health screenings every X years for firearm owners? Something else? Somehow I think people who go "NO NO NEW GUN REEGGSSS" would balk at *that*, too.

/Not sure why you put autism spectrum in airquotes, either.
 
2012-12-16 11:37:26 PM
lh6.googleusercontent.com
 
2012-12-16 11:37:33 PM

TheJoe03: Popcorn Johnny: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x353]

What tyrants have their been in America since our inception, please do tell. Moron.


I find it amusing when those who don't even have a basic grasp on grammar and spelling call others morons.

One clue in distinguishing between trolls and those who really are as stupid as they make themselves sound, I guess.
 
2012-12-16 11:37:41 PM

ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations

What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?


According to the right-wing Derposphere, the UN Small Arms Treaty, meant to cut down on illegal arms smuggling, is actually a worldwide ban of all guns in private hands, and by signing this treaty and ratifying it, it will override the US Constitution instantly repealing the Second Amendment and giving the UN control over gun regulations in the US, which means that all gun possession by anybody other than police and military is instantly a felony.

No, I'm not making that up.
 
2012-12-16 11:38:03 PM

sethen320: The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?

Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.


you sound poor
/your pet peeve sucks
 
2012-12-16 11:38:05 PM

Coco LaFemme: Gee, what was it that Professor Farnsworth so eloquently stated? I don't want to live on this planet anymore? Yeah, I'm about reaching that point myself. I don't believe in doomsday prophesies or religious fanaticism, but I'm beginning to think maybe, just maybe, the Mayans need to be right so that humanity can reset itself and we can try this whole "existing" thing all over again. Because after several billion years of plodding around this rock.........we suck. We suck bad, and some of us don't even seem to care that we suck.


Don't you have any redeeming qualities whatsoever that would make you worth saving?
 
2012-12-16 11:38:45 PM

Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time


Oh yeah?

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-12-16 11:39:54 PM

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


$100K? That'll buy you a shack in DC. There's no such thing as a condo here for less than that. Seriously. Hardly a "Richie Rich" brag.

You sound poor.
 
2012-12-16 11:41:27 PM

Pardon Me Sultan: I find it amusing when those who don't even have a basic grasp on grammar and spelling call others morons.

One clue in distinguishing between trolls and those who really are as stupid as they make themselves sound, I guess.


So instead of addressing anything you go after my grammar? Good job!
 
2012-12-16 11:42:34 PM

Felgraf: The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

Oh, okay! How are you going to do that? Require a mental health screening for every firearm purcahsed? Mental health screenings every X years for firearm owners? Something else? Somehow I think people who go "NO NO NEW GUN REEGGSSS" would balk at *that*, too.

/Not sure why you put autism spectrum in airquotes, either.


Actually, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying.

Look, I live in a part of the country where if you DONT touch or use a gun at least once a day, it means you are sick or dead. It's as much a part of people's way of life here as any car or cellphone or computer is to others.

Banning guns would mean that people here wouldn't be able to pay the bills or put food on the table anymore.

However, SOMETHING has to be done here....FAR too many people with mental deficiencies are getting their hands on firearms and committing horrendous acts of violence.

I'm saying make it harder for the nutjobs to get guns, but DONT make it more expensive or impossible for responsible gun owners to get them.

I used quotes because that seems to be the excuse for nearly every mass-shooter in recent times, like it farking matters. Like I'm gonna have sympathy on the bastard because he has farking autism.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:01 PM
Well he looks like the sort of fine, upstanding citizen I'd be proud to sell a gun to.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:55 PM
After police arrived at Meyer's home, which was connected to school property through a series of wooded walking paths, they found 47 guns and several rounds of ammunition, altogether worth more than $100,000, police said. Many of the weapons seized were collector's items, police added.

On Saturday police charged Meyer, who police said is a known member of a locally notorious motorcycle gang called the Invaders Motorcycle Gang, with four counts of felony intimidation, one count of misdemeanor domestic battery and two counts of misdemeanor resisting law enforcement.

Meyer is being held without bail at the Lake County, Ind., jail pending his initial hearing.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/indiana-man-arrested-threaten ing-shoot-school-article-1.1221531#ixzz2FHUrnrVz
 
2012-12-16 11:45:23 PM

Jae0o0: Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.


It's difficult to shoot two guns with one hand masturbating.
 
2012-12-16 11:47:52 PM

Silverstaff: According to the right-wing Derposphere, the UN Small Arms Treaty, meant to cut down on illegal arms smuggling, is actually a worldwide ban of all guns in private hands, and by signing this treaty and ratifying it, it will override the US Constitution instantly repealing the Second Amendment and giving the UN control over gun regulations in the US, which means that all gun possession by anybody other than police and military is instantly a felony.

No, I'm not making that up.


Thankfully, it wouldn't be the first treaty we signed that we don't follow. Of course, you won't hear that from the fear mongers.
 
2012-12-16 11:48:09 PM

max_pooper: Jae0o0: Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.

It's difficult to shoot two guns with one hand masturbating.


I dunno... My .22s are pretty small and I've got giant man sized hands, bet i could do it.
 
2012-12-16 11:48:31 PM

The more you eat the more you fart: I'm saying make it harder for the nutjobs to get guns, but DONT make it more expensive or impossible for responsible gun owners to get them.

I used quotes because that seems to be the excuse for nearly every mass-shooter in recent times, like it farking matters. Like I'm gonna have sympathy on the bastard because he has farking autism.


Okay, but here's my take on it: any attempted check *will*, at the very least, make things more inconvenient for gun owners, because the state/gunshop/etc *can't know* if you're nuts or not without checking somehow (Like, say, asking for proof you've seen a shrink.) And unless the state is paying for these mental health checks (which would cost a looottaaaa money, and necessitate either higher taxes, or a fee along with the gun to cover it), then it'll have to be done on the gun owner's dime... which will, again, make it more expensive for them.

I suppose the problem is that I don't see, among other things, a solution that *doesn't* get the NRA pitching a screaming hissyfit, which will make it much harder to get anything done, I think.

(this is, again, all just my opinion)

And fair enough, the use of airquotes more made me think you were implying that Autism/the autism spectrum wasn't real, which... confused me.

For what it's worth, I suspect the Autism statements are more to try and piece together what happened/why they did what they did, than a reason to feel sympathy for them.
 
2012-12-16 11:51:00 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: guess how I know that you have never met someone with a large collection of guns. They're quite honestly the most stable people you can meet.


How about their children? Not so much, I expect
Adam Lanza looks so stable, doesn't he...
c498390.r90.cf2.rackcdn.com
 
2012-12-16 11:51:28 PM

AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.


OK, Cop Math.

So, let's divide by two and decrease by an order of magnitude. $100,000 / 2 / 10 = just $5,000 worth of ammo.

Depending on the rounds, at ~$300/thousand rounds that's still around 16,000 rounds. 16 1,000-round cases of ammo, almost 500 lbs of bullets.
 
2012-12-16 11:52:22 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


I only support a ban on sem-automatic assault matches.
 
2012-12-16 11:52:32 PM
That's it! Enough is enough! We need idle threat control! I've had enough of people threatening to do things as a cry for help! Maybe a tax stamp system that limits how grandiose a threat people could make and that funds mental health clinics for threatening type people. Stop the madness!
 
2012-12-16 11:53:00 PM

BuckTurgidson: AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.

OK, Cop Math.

So, let's divide by two and decrease by an order of magnitude. $100,000 / 2 / 10 = just $5,000 worth of ammo.

Depending on the rounds, at ~$300/thousand rounds that's still around 16,000 rounds. 16 1,000-round cases of ammo, almost 500 lbs of bullets.


He got Monster brand bullets.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:11 PM

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:18 PM
I hope people remember (or at lease CARE enough about) part of my last statement to not automatically jump to a knee-jerk reaction.

YES, there are still people in this country that choose to live a very simple lifestyle. They hunt for food, they trap/hunt to make money to pay their bills, etc.

It is our heritage, and that is not hyperbole. There are still people here that do not have electricity because they live a more "traditional" way of life.

Banning guns would mean the absolute destruction of an entire culture and way of life. These people are not so-called gun nuts. They are people who live off the land, and REQUIRE a firearm to provide a living. Their very way of life, and the culture of an entire people depends upon it.

We don't HAVE "collector's items". If it's a gun, it needs to WORK. For example, I have an 1895 Winchester in 25/35 Win caliber. It was actually made in 1895. That gun LITERALLY fed a family of 6 kids. If a deer or wild hog wasn't shot with it, then people went without FOOD. It's not a collector's item...it still shoots. A collector's item belongs in a museum. My 1895 Winchester Trapper model is a piece of culture...not art.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:45 PM

MeanJean: Gulper Eel

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

You know what she could have done?

NOT HAD farkING GUNS IN THE HOUSE WHERE CRAZY BOY COULD GET TO THEM.

He must have been showing a few signs of being crazy, why didn't she lock the guns up?


Since we don't know what happened at their house, speculation is pointless. But I will anyway. Maybe they were in a safe but she gave him the combination under extreme duress. Maybe they were in a wooden gun cabinet that was locked but he just smashed the hell out of it to get at the guns.

Just seems to be jumping the gun to blame Mom for what this douchefark did.
 
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