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(The Blaze)   Indiana man with 47 guns and ammunition worth over $100,000 arrested after threatening to "kill as many people as he could" at local elementary school (w/mugshot)   ( theblaze.com) divider line
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2012-12-16 07:59:32 PM  
Did they put something in the water or what?
 
2012-12-16 08:01:30 PM  
1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.
 
2012-12-16 08:06:52 PM  
Since this is "TheBlaze" link, I'll assume he was an avid Glenn Beck fan.
 
2012-12-16 08:07:19 PM  
Just when you think the soundtrack can't get worse.  Some shiatty "Worser Harder" tribute band emerges.
 
2012-12-16 08:12:53 PM  
HERE

There's a proposal. From a gunsmith no less.

Don't let it be said gun owners aren't willing to compromise.
 
2012-12-16 08:13:05 PM  
Law abiding citizen. Nothing to
see here.
 
2012-12-16 08:13:21 PM  
One of the stupider reporters here in PA managed to shoehorn "These are all False Flag operations to help Obama take our guns away at the direct order of the United Nations" *AND* "The biggest mass shootings in history have happened on Obama's watch and he does nothing, as usual.".

Within the same blog post.
 
2012-12-16 08:16:14 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: One of the stupider reporters here in PA managed to shoehorn "These are all False Flag operations to help Obama take our guns away at the direct order of the United Nations" *AND* "The biggest mass shootings in history have happened on Obama's watch and he does nothing, as usual.".

Within the same blog post.


shiat like that is why I left the Republican Part AND the NRA, they're getting even worse.
 
2012-12-16 08:16:27 PM  
I really need to invest in the handbasket industry.
 
2012-12-16 08:18:17 PM  
Silly nutjobs.

You want to kill as many people as possible? Become the CEO of a multinational corporation and flaunt regulations.
 
2012-12-16 08:20:04 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations


What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?
 
2012-12-16 08:21:35 PM  

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.


Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.
 
2012-12-16 08:22:44 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: One of the stupider reporters here in PA managed to shoehorn "These are all False Flag operations to help Obama take our guns away at the direct order of the United Nations" *AND* "The biggest mass shootings in history have happened on Obama's watch and he does nothing, as usual.".

Within the same blog post.


I must have missed that one.
 
2012-12-16 08:25:11 PM  
Put on either the Purdue or IU game. If he's a real Hoosier, he'll drop whatever he's doing until halftime. Crime problem - solved.
 
2012-12-16 08:25:54 PM  
Gee, what was it that Professor Farnsworth so eloquently stated? I don't want to live on this planet anymore? Yeah, I'm about reaching that point myself. I don't believe in doomsday prophesies or religious fanaticism, but I'm beginning to think maybe, just maybe, the Mayans need to be right so that humanity can reset itself and we can try this whole "existing" thing all over again. Because after several billion years of plodding around this rock.........we suck. We suck bad, and some of us don't even seem to care that we suck.
 
2012-12-16 08:26:56 PM  
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Sneaky farking russians.

/boris!
 
2012-12-16 08:28:12 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations

What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?


None.

But that doesn't stop the derp of idiots anyway.
 
2012-12-16 08:33:28 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations

What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?


It's secret!
 
2012-12-16 08:33:32 PM  

AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.


Yah, my really was actually both.
1) 100k ??? LOL cop math
2) 100k is how many rounds??? even at a dollar each that is 100k rounds??? WTF! At $10 a round, which is silly even for cops, that is still 10k rounds ... which is STILL a bit insane. How many days of shooting would that take?? LOL
 
2012-12-16 08:34:57 PM  

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?


He's protecting America from Obama's tyranny

Why do you hate America?
 
2012-12-16 08:36:23 PM  
fark you for linking to the blaze, subtard.
 
2012-12-16 08:39:17 PM  

FlashHarry: fark you for linking to the blaze, subtard.


At least there's the tag to warn you. Unlike Free Republic. Almost got tricked into going there the other day.
 
2012-12-16 08:40:08 PM  
This is clearly what the authors of the 2nd Amendment had in mind, amirite?
 
2012-12-16 08:46:36 PM  
The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.
 
2012-12-16 08:47:18 PM  

namatad: AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.

Yah, my really was actually both.
1) 100k ??? LOL cop math
2) 100k is how many rounds??? even at a dollar each that is 100k rounds??? WTF! At $10 a round, which is silly even for cops, that is still 10k rounds ... which is STILL a bit insane. How many days of shooting would that take?? LOL


FTFA: 47 guns and ammunition worth over $100,000.

I'm assuming the value of the 47 guns was included in that number?
 
2012-12-16 08:49:20 PM  

Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.


Don't be silly. Willie Nelson has dark hair and a bandanna. He also got stoned on the roof of the WhiteHouse. Please attempt relevant analogies.
 
2012-12-16 08:59:39 PM  
fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.
 
2012-12-16 09:01:00 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?
 
2012-12-16 09:03:11 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.

i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?


of course we should.

although I am not sure that this person would have woken up one day and said "hey, I am crazy, let me go to the local mental health critic and get me some help"
 
2012-12-16 09:03:36 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

He's protecting America from Obama's tyranny

Why do you hate America?


heh
I dont hate amerika!!
I hate the fake amerikans!!
 
2012-12-16 09:06:00 PM  

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?



how did this guy ever afford $100k in ammo? is he a 1%er? did he steal it? I just don't get it.
 
2012-12-16 09:09:55 PM  

Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?


You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.
 
2012-12-16 09:13:36 PM  

Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.


oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.
 
2012-12-16 09:20:40 PM  
Did the guy have the guns and the ammo?

Likely so.

Was possession of same necessarily illegal or demonstrative of "bad intent"?

Possibly, likely not.

Is it POSSIBLE that wifey was ENRAGED at hubby over some irrelevant issue and MADE THE WHOLE THING UP, capitalizing on the Connecticut story to "stick it" to hubby?

You decide.

CSB:

Years ago I bought a very nice home from a very nice couple in the quiet and affluent community of [redacted]. When we showed up with the first truckload of our furnishings, said couple was still moving out: In the (very large) garage were several open gun safes, and guns of every description were laid out neatly on a carpet the floor of the garage.

And I mean guns of EVERY description: Rifles, pistols, muzzle loaders... from antique collectibles the most recent high-power sniper rifles to Uzi's - YES FULLY AUTOMATIC MACHINE GUNS, and ammunition and accessories of every description.

Turns out that the gentleman was a licensed firearms dealer, and every single weapon and cartridge in his "arsenal' was in his possession legally. He was also a skilled machinist, and many of the guns he had were custom built - including an air rifle (powered by a scuba tank) that he used for "plinking" coyotes - as firing conventional weapons was illegal in that area.

Oddly enough, he looked a HELL of a lot like the guy pictured in TFA - scruffy, long-haired and bearded - yet he was a fine upstanding citizen, and close friends with many members of the local law enforcement community, many of whom were his customers.

/CSB

Looks like 2013 will be the "year of the gun" here in the US. It will be interesting to see the political games unfold.
 
2012-12-16 09:20:40 PM  

Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.


wut?
How broad of a brush are you using to make that statement?

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?
 
2012-12-16 09:22:18 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.

i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?



Drug 'em all, let God sort 'em out!
 
2012-12-16 09:25:40 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese:

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?


it's an interesting question, isn't it? would improving the mental health care system have helped prevent gun violence...?

if nothing else, it certainly highlights yet another problem with the GOP worldview.
 
2012-12-16 09:26:15 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.

wut?
How broad of a brush are you using to make that statement?

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?



Does the 0 in Obamacare stand for the number of children that can be denied insurance for pre existing conditions?
 
2012-12-16 09:32:48 PM  

Weaver95: would improving the mental health care system have helped prevent gun violence...?


It might help...but there is recent history of states taking billions for mental health care and shuffling it off to more politically-popular targets. Technically this isn't supposed to be done, but New York got away with it with a wink and a nod from Washington until an expose revealed that billions in mental-health-care money...in this case, for the developmentally disabled...was being diverted.

And then you've got a failure of a program, but one that can't be killed because it buys so many votes.
 
2012-12-16 09:33:42 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?

it's an interesting question, isn't it? would improving the mental health care system have helped prevent gun violence...?

if nothing else, it certainly highlights yet another problem with the GOP worldview.


you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.

how would implementing 0bamacare have prevented the shooting?

Did the killer not have access to any mental health care?
Did he or his mom not have the money to go to a professional?
If the mental healthcare were free, would he have gone to get help?
 
2012-12-16 09:36:42 PM  

Raharu: tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.

wut?
How broad of a brush are you using to make that statement?

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?


Does the 0 in Obamacare stand for the number of children that can be denied insurance for pre existing conditions?


don't hijack a thread. this is not about pre-existing conditions.

the assertion was that somehow people are rethinking 0bamacare in light of the shootings as if 0bamacare would have prevented it.
 
2012-12-16 09:39:56 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?

 

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2012-12-16 09:44:47 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?

it's an interesting question, isn't it? would improving the mental health care system have helped prevent gun violence...?

if nothing else, it certainly highlights yet another problem with the GOP worldview.

you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.

how would implementing 0bamacare have prevented the shooting?

Did the killer not have access to any mental health care?
Did he or his mom not have the money to go to a professional?
If the mental healthcare were free, would he have gone to get help?


by the way, I don't know about the CT shooter, but the Viriginia shooter was covered by health care through the school which included mental health and suicide counciling.
 
2012-12-16 09:45:55 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese:
you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.


why bother? like any good Romney voter, you'll just change your views when its convenient, right? isn't that what Republicans do now?

think about it. prior to the kindergarten massacre, the GOP spent all year vilifying teacher's and trying to destroy their unions. then some idiot goes and shoots 20 kids and we've got Republicans falling all over themselves saying teachers are great and how they've always loved teachers. I'm just wondering how deep the hypocrisy hole goes is all.
 
2012-12-16 09:46:44 PM  

Amos Quito: tenpoundsofcheese: How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting? 

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sorry, you are right.
0bamacare will solve all our nations problems starting with making sure that anyone with a violent tendancy is somehow magically identified and fixed.

then it will move on to solving obesity and male pattern baldness.
 
2012-12-16 09:53:02 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Amos Quito: tenpoundsofcheese: How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting? 

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sorry, you are right.
0bamacare will solve all our nations problems starting with making sure that anyone with a violent tendancy is somehow magically identified and fixed.

then it will move on to solving obesity and male pattern baldness.


you know, I could make a similar argument over TSA gate rape (it's ineffective, not proven to work and its expensive plus it violates our rights) but you'd ignore it.

well, you have in the past anyways. i'm sure NOW you'll change your tune, right? suddenly you care about the bill of rights? or did you only care about the 2nd amendment?
 
2012-12-16 09:59:12 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:
you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.

why bother? like any good Romney voter, you'll just change your views when its convenient, right? isn't that what Republicans do now?

think about it. prior to the kindergarten massacre, the GOP spent all year vilifying teacher's and trying to destroy their unions. then some idiot goes and shoots 20 kids and we've got Republicans falling all over themselves saying teachers are great and how they've always loved teachers. I'm just wondering how deep the hypocrisy hole goes is all.


wow. you are really phoning it in tonight I live with my mom.

you can't answer a question so you just accuse me of changing my position? that is weak, even for you.

as to your comments on teachers and unions, too bad you are too simple minded to understand the difference. Here, I will try to help you: to the left, corporations are usually evil, but many people who work in them are often down trodden, under-appreciated and underpaid.
 
2012-12-16 09:59:44 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: by the way, I don't know about the CT shooter, but the Viriginia shooter was covered by health care through the school which included mental health and suicide counciling.


Suicide council. Is that kind of like a death panel?

I suppose you could argue that Cho's problems stemmed from not having proper treatment through most of his life, and that suddenly having it for the 2 years he spent in college wasn't enough to change anything?

I think the important problem is that we can't force those people to get help until after they commit a crime. My family deals with an aunt of mine like that on a regular basis. When she goes off her meds everybody in the family knows, but everyone is powerless to do anything about it until she's back in jail, where they force her back onto the meds, then release her and start the cycle over again.
 
2012-12-16 10:02:02 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: Amos Quito: tenpoundsofcheese: How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting? 

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sorry, you are right.
0bamacare will solve all our nations problems starting with making sure that anyone with a violent tendancy is somehow magically identified and fixed.

then it will move on to solving obesity and male pattern baldness.

you know, I could make a similar argument over TSA gate rape (it's ineffective, not proven to work and its expensive plus it violates our rights) but you'd ignore it.

wtf are you talking about? I ignore your arguments because they are often stupid, but I doubt I ever defended the TSA as some model of efficiency and good practices.

 
2012-12-16 10:05:41 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:
you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.

why bother? like any good Romney voter, you'll just change your views when its convenient, right? isn't that what Republicans do now?

think about it. prior to the kindergarten massacre, the GOP spent all year vilifying teacher's and trying to destroy their unions. then some idiot goes and shoots 20 kids and we've got Republicans falling all over themselves saying teachers are great and how they've always loved teachers. I'm just wondering how deep the hypocrisy hole goes is all.

wow. you are really phoning it in tonight I live with my mom.

you can't answer a question so you just accuse me of changing my position? that is weak, even for you.

as to your comments on teachers and unions, too bad you are too simple minded to understand the difference. Here, I will try to help you: to the left, corporations are usually evil, but many people who work in them are often down trodden, under-appreciated and underpaid.


Its ok, I didn't really expect you to answer my questions. i'm just pondering a few things is all.
 
2012-12-16 10:15:04 PM  

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese:
you didn't answer the question. lame deflection.

why bother? like any good Romney voter, you'll just change your views when its convenient, right? isn't that what Republicans do now?

think about it. prior to the kindergarten massacre, the GOP spent all year vilifying teacher's and trying to destroy their unions. then some idiot goes and shoots 20 kids and we've got Republicans falling all over themselves saying teachers are great and how they've always loved teachers. I'm just wondering how deep the hypocrisy hole goes is all.

wow. you are really phoning it in tonight I live with my mom.

you can't answer a question so you just accuse me of changing my position? that is weak, even for you.

as to your comments on teachers and unions, too bad you are too simple minded to understand the difference. Here, I will try to help you: to the left, corporations are usually evil, but many people who work in them are often down trodden, under-appreciated and underpaid.

Its ok, I didn't really expect you to answer my questions. i'm just pondering a few things is all.


you okay?
you sound tired?
do you need some mental health care treatment?

I answered your first question (should we have better healthcare? yes)
I then asked you a question which you didn't answer and rather tried a lame deflection.
 
2012-12-16 10:18:21 PM  

serial_crusher: tenpoundsofcheese: by the way, I don't know about the CT shooter, but the Viriginia shooter was covered by health care through the school which included mental health and suicide counciling.


I suppose you could argue that Cho's problems stemmed from not having proper treatment through most of his life, and that suddenly having it for the 2 years he spent in college wasn't enough to change anything?



yes, you could argue that, but did he not have proper treatment because lack of coverage (0bamacare to the rescue) or because his parents didn't try to have him get help?
 
2012-12-16 10:44:10 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: serial_crusher: tenpoundsofcheese: by the way, I don't know about the CT shooter, but the Viriginia shooter was covered by health care through the school which included mental health and suicide counciling.


I suppose you could argue that Cho's problems stemmed from not having proper treatment through most of his life, and that suddenly having it for the 2 years he spent in college wasn't enough to change anything?

yes, you could argue that, but did he not have proper treatment because lack of coverage (0bamacare to the rescue) or because his parents didn't try to have him get help?


The latter, but as my anecdote indicates, it doesn't matter whether his parents tried to have him get help. The second he turned 18, the law gave him the right to make that decision regardless of what his parents had to say about the matter. You know, crazy people are clearly the most qualified to make decisions about their own mental health care....

But yeah, Obamacare wouldn't help at all. It just increases access to health care, but doesn't do anything to force people to take advantage of it. Having the government medicate or commit unstable people preemptively is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, but it might very well be the best solution.
 
2012-12-16 10:57:19 PM  
What a wacko, but sorry Farkers, someone is law abiding until they aren't.
 
2012-12-16 10:59:08 PM  
I've been putting my money into interest bearing ammunition accounts for years. Hell, I'd say I'd have about 100k socked away for retirement by now.

Mostly it's for my kids, though. I only need to withdraw two for retirement. (One if my wife passes before I retire.)
 
2012-12-16 10:59:55 PM  

twiztedjustin: What a wacko, but sorry Farkers, someone is law abiding until they aren't.


Hence the reason to put sensible restrictions on gun ownership. Because anyone is a potential nut job just waiting to go off.
 
2012-12-16 11:00:03 PM  
RELIGION OF PEACE
 
2012-12-16 11:00:17 PM  

Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.


Obamacare or better mental health care? I'd say it's the latter.
 
2012-12-16 11:02:10 PM  
It's just so refreshing to hear people who just a few days ago would never consider spending more taxpayer money on mental health suddenly be so supportive. And I'm sure they won't complain if their taxes have to go up a bit to do it.
 
2012-12-16 11:02:48 PM  
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of ... Kindergarteners.

You evil, evil people.
 
2012-12-16 11:02:52 PM  
$100,000 in ammo could just be one bullet from Hitler's personal gun.
 
2012-12-16 11:03:25 PM  
All I want to know is:
was he trying to quit smoking or on an anti-depressant?
 
2012-12-16 11:04:38 PM  
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Looks like Waingro from Heat.
 
2012-12-16 11:05:03 PM  

serial_crusher: But yeah, Obamacare wouldn't help at all. It just increases access to health care, but doesn't do anything to force people to take advantage of it. Having the government medicate or commit unstable people preemptively is going to ruffle a lot of feathers, but it might very well be the best solution.


yup...
 
2012-12-16 11:05:45 PM  
Cmon. All you alarmists stand down.

It's pretty clear that this guy is just another True Patriot, standing ready to defend the republic from invasion.
 
2012-12-16 11:06:00 PM  
DAMMIT!

I clicked on a Blaze link.
 
2012-12-16 11:08:11 PM  
Freedom to bear arms. Still OK but...
Freedom to use them. Denied
Freedom of speech. Denied.

Allahu Ackbar, Obama America!


/amidoinitrite?
//GodHatesSchools.com
 
2012-12-16 11:08:23 PM  
It always seems that the people with the most guns are the folks who you would least trust to use them in trustworthy manner.

It works the same with pit bull owners too.

In both cases, the owners apparently see their possessions as being a replacement for a functioning penis,
 
2012-12-16 11:08:30 PM  
Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.
 
2012-12-16 11:08:40 PM  
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2012-12-16 11:08:55 PM  

NarrMaster: All I want to know is:
was he trying to quit smoking or on an anti-depressant?


on an SRI or SSRI
 
2012-12-16 11:10:21 PM  

TDBoedy: NarrMaster: All I want to know is:
was he trying to quit smoking or on an anti-depressant?

on an SRI or SSRI


I'm actually gonna guess no, otherwise we wouldn't be reading about him getting caught, we'd be reading about another massacre.
 
2012-12-16 11:10:33 PM  
Ah, I see the propaganda is conspicuously building. Alleged means absolutely squat. The guy actually did nothing and there's no evidence even circumstantial in the article. This is all part of a gun grab, or junior media whores trying to make a buck.
 
2012-12-16 11:10:50 PM  

snuff3r: [newspaper.li image 470x313]

Sneaky farking russians.

/boris!



Ha! I also thought he looked like Rade Serbedzija. (And yes I cheated....looked him up on IMDB.)

/"Miami Wice is number one new show!"
 
2012-12-16 11:10:58 PM  
Also, I'll wager it isn't 47 guns + $100,000 worth of ammo.

Dollars to donuts it's a botch reporting job and it's actually (Value of 47 guns + Value of ammo) > $100,000.
 
2012-12-16 11:11:01 PM  
Finally, someone gets arrested.
 
2012-12-16 11:11:02 PM  
i am beginning to think that the problem with America is blanket gifting of privileges and citizenship (not of rights).
But that opens up a whole other can of worms.
/Would you like to know more?
 
2012-12-16 11:12:03 PM  

richard_1963: It always seems that the people with the most guns are the folks who you would least trust to use them in trustworthy manner.


guess how I know that you have never met someone with a large collection of guns. They're quite honestly the most stable people you can meet.
 
2012-12-16 11:12:13 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.



The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.
 
2012-12-16 11:12:29 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


I called for a ban on matches yesterday.
 
2012-12-16 11:12:29 PM  

iq_in_binary: AND the NRA


I left them this year because of their support for Romney, who had a more anti-gun record than Obama. The are just a right wing group and arm of the GOP masquerading as gun rights advocates. Been looking into joining a more legitimate gun rights group.
 
2012-12-16 11:12:37 PM  
60-year-old Von I. Meyer early Friday after he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire.

I'm sure it was just a one-time thing and he's never acted like that before.
 
2012-12-16 11:13:30 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ah, I see the propaganda is conspicuously building. Alleged means absolutely squat. The guy actually did nothing and there's no evidence even circumstantial in the article. This is all part of a gun grab, or junior media whores trying to make a buck.


Yes, because it has to be some massive conspiracy by the media or the government. It couldn't either a) Be an unhinged person, or B) something more mundane, like a wife fabricating the story to get him in trouble. No. it CLEARLY has to be A NEFARIOUS CONSPIRACY.

/Get help.
 
2012-12-16 11:13:45 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x353]


What tyrants have their been in America since our inception, please do tell. Moron.
 
2012-12-16 11:14:16 PM  

fusillade762: Did they put something in the water or what?


and from this day forward he's livin' on the public's dime and since he wasn't getting laid anyway, it's an investment to be arrested and put away for life: 3 hots and a cot, free hot water to shower in, roof over his head, etc
 
2012-12-16 11:14:36 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The meth game is pretty lucrative.
 
2012-12-16 11:15:09 PM  
Time Wave Zero - Mass shootings will probably now start hour after hour, then minute after minute for the next four days now, all over the planet, as the whole world crumbles into insanity faster and faster.
By December 21st the last human beings will have killed themselves and each other. On December 22nd, the planet is quiet of any further human noise.
 
2012-12-16 11:15:57 PM  

The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.


You could take a run at the Wicked Witch of the West.
 
2012-12-16 11:16:32 PM  

Felgraf: Yes, because it has to be some massive conspiracy by the media or the government. It couldn't either a) Be an unhinged person, or B) something more mundane, like a wife fabricating the story to get him in trouble. No. it CLEARLY has to be A NEFARIOUS CONSPIRACY.


it could be someone who was tired of living the bullsh*t charade going on and decided to make some idle threats and get put away on vacation the rest of his life, on someone else's dime.
 
2012-12-16 11:17:29 PM  

HotWingAgenda: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

You could take a run at the Wicked Witch of the West.



Lulz.
 
2012-12-16 11:17:46 PM  

HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


Cop math.
 
2012-12-16 11:17:52 PM  

TheJoe03: What tyrants have their been in America since our inception, please do tell. Moron.


How tall are you?
 
2012-12-16 11:18:42 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x353]


Over in your left column, I would put one name: King George III

Yes, for you pedants, that was before the Constitution, the BoR and the 2nd Amendment. But that is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
 
2012-12-16 11:18:47 PM  

urban.derelict: it could be someone who was tired of living the bullsh*t charade going on and decided to make some idle threats and get put away on vacation the rest of his life, on someone else's dime.


Also possible, I suppose.
 
2012-12-16 11:19:00 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ah, I see the propaganda is conspicuously building. Alleged means absolutely squat. The guy actually did nothing and there's no evidence even circumstantial in the article. This is all part of a gun grab, or junior media whores trying to make a buck.


You're right, threatening to kill as many people as you can shouldn't be a crime. It's free speech after all. So what if he's hoarding / collecting guns. He's probably the minister at his church.
 
2012-12-16 11:19:45 PM  
Sounds like his wife found the perfect way to get rid of her old man.

"He said he was gonna turn those kiddies into kabobs. I swear, officer!"
 
2012-12-16 11:19:47 PM  

Pardon Me Sultan: Also, I'll wager it isn't 47 guns + $100,000 worth of ammo.

Dollars to donuts it's a botch reporting job and it's actually (Value of 47 guns + Value of ammo) > $100,000.


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Approves of expensive bullets.
 
2012-12-16 11:20:16 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Popcorn Johnny: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x353]

Over in your left column, I would put one name: King George III

Yes, for you pedants, that was before the Constitution, the BoR and the 2nd Amendment. But that is why we have the 2nd Amendment.


That's why we have the Marine Corps and our State Department.
 
2012-12-16 11:20:58 PM  

richard_1963: It always seems that the people with the most guns are the folks who you would least trust to use them in trustworthy manner.

It works the same with pit bull owners too.

In both cases, the owners apparently see their possessions as being a replacement for a functioning penis,


Points for using 'functioning' as opposed to the proverbial 'small'.

Still a silly theory, though.
 
2012-12-16 11:23:44 PM  
5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time
 
2012-12-16 11:25:09 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: How tall are you?


5'11
 
2012-12-16 11:25:12 PM  
He kind of looks like Willie Nelson's crazy cousin.
 
2012-12-16 11:25:32 PM  

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?


$100,000 in guns and ammo. It wouldn't be that hard to get that in guns.
 
2012-12-16 11:25:42 PM  
Gulper Eel

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

You know what she could have done?

NOT HAD farkING GUNS IN THE HOUSE WHERE CRAZY BOY COULD GET TO THEM.

He must have been showing a few signs of being crazy, why didn't she lock the guns up?
 
2012-12-16 11:25:57 PM  

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?



Wow.....what crawled up your ass?
 
2012-12-16 11:25:59 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


There's a difference: matches can be used for multiple purposes. Guns only exist to kill.

Well, people used to use them for other things, but we have can openers and the like now.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:06 PM  

Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time


Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:06 PM  

sethen320: Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.


You act like he bragged about having a mansion.
 
2012-12-16 11:28:35 PM  
Is it just me, or is there a complete absence of discussion about the availability of mental health care following this shooting?

Maybe it's just me.
 
2012-12-16 11:30:52 PM  
I bet his manifesto is great.
 
2012-12-16 11:31:13 PM  
Jae0o0
"Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time."

Someone's been watching to many Jason Stathom movies
 
2012-12-16 11:31:53 PM  
Wait, I've got it.

Indiana man, with 47 guns and ammunition, worth over $100,000, arrested after threatening to "kill as many people as he could" at local elementary school


The dude is worth 100k not the ammo.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:23 PM  

Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.


I don't know if I'm comin' or goin'; if it's them or me.
All I know is Willie Nelson only smoke killer weed.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:25 PM  
STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:43 PM  

sethen320: Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.



Ah.

I only brought in the $100K number because that was the dollar value mentioned in the headline....just referencing that.

/Water under the bridge.
 
2012-12-16 11:33:26 PM  
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Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?
 
2012-12-16 11:35:00 PM  

gerbilpox: [www.theblaze.com image 528x333]

Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?



I noticed it too...and it's probably from smoking.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:19 PM  

Gdalescrboz: Jae0o0
"Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time."

Someone's been watching to many Jason Stathom movies


If you can't shoot two .22s at once, you're probably a child or sickly.I've never shot a .22 that had any kick to it. I wouldn't try it with larger calibers though.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:19 PM  

doglover: Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.

I don't know if I'm comin' or goin'; if it's them or me.
All I know is Willie Nelson only smoke killer weed.



.....which is precisely why I wish this POS wasn't Willie's doppelgänger.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:25 PM  

generallyso: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.

Cop math.


Not necessarily. He could have accumulated that much ammo over a long period of time. For example, if he was buying a few boxes of ammo every month for 10 or so years.
 
2012-12-16 11:35:26 PM  

The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?


His mother was killed by a lunatic with a cheap condo, you insesitive jerk!
 
2012-12-16 11:36:06 PM  
Man, that last LoG tour took it's toll on John Campbell.
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2012-12-16 11:37:15 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.


Oh, okay! How are you going to do that? Require a mental health screening for every firearm purcahsed? Mental health screenings every X years for firearm owners? Something else? Somehow I think people who go "NO NO NEW GUN REEGGSSS" would balk at *that*, too.

/Not sure why you put autism spectrum in airquotes, either.
 
2012-12-16 11:37:26 PM  
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2012-12-16 11:37:33 PM  

TheJoe03: Popcorn Johnny: [i49.tinypic.com image 400x353]

What tyrants have their been in America since our inception, please do tell. Moron.


I find it amusing when those who don't even have a basic grasp on grammar and spelling call others morons.

One clue in distinguishing between trolls and those who really are as stupid as they make themselves sound, I guess.
 
2012-12-16 11:37:41 PM  

ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations

What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?


According to the right-wing Derposphere, the UN Small Arms Treaty, meant to cut down on illegal arms smuggling, is actually a worldwide ban of all guns in private hands, and by signing this treaty and ratifying it, it will override the US Constitution instantly repealing the Second Amendment and giving the UN control over gun regulations in the US, which means that all gun possession by anybody other than police and military is instantly a felony.

No, I'm not making that up.
 
2012-12-16 11:38:03 PM  

sethen320: The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?

Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.


you sound poor
/your pet peeve sucks
 
2012-12-16 11:38:05 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Gee, what was it that Professor Farnsworth so eloquently stated? I don't want to live on this planet anymore? Yeah, I'm about reaching that point myself. I don't believe in doomsday prophesies or religious fanaticism, but I'm beginning to think maybe, just maybe, the Mayans need to be right so that humanity can reset itself and we can try this whole "existing" thing all over again. Because after several billion years of plodding around this rock.........we suck. We suck bad, and some of us don't even seem to care that we suck.


Don't you have any redeeming qualities whatsoever that would make you worth saving?
 
2012-12-16 11:38:45 PM  

Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time


Oh yeah?

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2012-12-16 11:39:54 PM  

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


$100K? That'll buy you a shack in DC. There's no such thing as a condo here for less than that. Seriously. Hardly a "Richie Rich" brag.

You sound poor.
 
2012-12-16 11:41:27 PM  

Pardon Me Sultan: I find it amusing when those who don't even have a basic grasp on grammar and spelling call others morons.

One clue in distinguishing between trolls and those who really are as stupid as they make themselves sound, I guess.


So instead of addressing anything you go after my grammar? Good job!
 
2012-12-16 11:42:34 PM  

Felgraf: The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

Oh, okay! How are you going to do that? Require a mental health screening for every firearm purcahsed? Mental health screenings every X years for firearm owners? Something else? Somehow I think people who go "NO NO NEW GUN REEGGSSS" would balk at *that*, too.

/Not sure why you put autism spectrum in airquotes, either.


Actually, that is EXACTLY what I'm saying.

Look, I live in a part of the country where if you DONT touch or use a gun at least once a day, it means you are sick or dead. It's as much a part of people's way of life here as any car or cellphone or computer is to others.

Banning guns would mean that people here wouldn't be able to pay the bills or put food on the table anymore.

However, SOMETHING has to be done here....FAR too many people with mental deficiencies are getting their hands on firearms and committing horrendous acts of violence.

I'm saying make it harder for the nutjobs to get guns, but DONT make it more expensive or impossible for responsible gun owners to get them.

I used quotes because that seems to be the excuse for nearly every mass-shooter in recent times, like it farking matters. Like I'm gonna have sympathy on the bastard because he has farking autism.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:01 PM  
Well he looks like the sort of fine, upstanding citizen I'd be proud to sell a gun to.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:55 PM  
After police arrived at Meyer's home, which was connected to school property through a series of wooded walking paths, they found 47 guns and several rounds of ammunition, altogether worth more than $100,000, police said. Many of the weapons seized were collector's items, police added.

On Saturday police charged Meyer, who police said is a known member of a locally notorious motorcycle gang called the Invaders Motorcycle Gang, with four counts of felony intimidation, one count of misdemeanor domestic battery and two counts of misdemeanor resisting law enforcement.

Meyer is being held without bail at the Lake County, Ind., jail pending his initial hearing.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/indiana-man-arrested-threaten ing-shoot-school-article-1.1221531#ixzz2FHUrnrVz
 
2012-12-16 11:45:23 PM  

Jae0o0: Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.


It's difficult to shoot two guns with one hand masturbating.
 
2012-12-16 11:47:52 PM  

Silverstaff: According to the right-wing Derposphere, the UN Small Arms Treaty, meant to cut down on illegal arms smuggling, is actually a worldwide ban of all guns in private hands, and by signing this treaty and ratifying it, it will override the US Constitution instantly repealing the Second Amendment and giving the UN control over gun regulations in the US, which means that all gun possession by anybody other than police and military is instantly a felony.

No, I'm not making that up.


Thankfully, it wouldn't be the first treaty we signed that we don't follow. Of course, you won't hear that from the fear mongers.
 
2012-12-16 11:48:09 PM  

max_pooper: Jae0o0: Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time.

It's difficult to shoot two guns with one hand masturbating.


I dunno... My .22s are pretty small and I've got giant man sized hands, bet i could do it.
 
2012-12-16 11:48:31 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: I'm saying make it harder for the nutjobs to get guns, but DONT make it more expensive or impossible for responsible gun owners to get them.

I used quotes because that seems to be the excuse for nearly every mass-shooter in recent times, like it farking matters. Like I'm gonna have sympathy on the bastard because he has farking autism.


Okay, but here's my take on it: any attempted check *will*, at the very least, make things more inconvenient for gun owners, because the state/gunshop/etc *can't know* if you're nuts or not without checking somehow (Like, say, asking for proof you've seen a shrink.) And unless the state is paying for these mental health checks (which would cost a looottaaaa money, and necessitate either higher taxes, or a fee along with the gun to cover it), then it'll have to be done on the gun owner's dime... which will, again, make it more expensive for them.

I suppose the problem is that I don't see, among other things, a solution that *doesn't* get the NRA pitching a screaming hissyfit, which will make it much harder to get anything done, I think.

(this is, again, all just my opinion)

And fair enough, the use of airquotes more made me think you were implying that Autism/the autism spectrum wasn't real, which... confused me.

For what it's worth, I suspect the Autism statements are more to try and piece together what happened/why they did what they did, than a reason to feel sympathy for them.
 
2012-12-16 11:51:00 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: guess how I know that you have never met someone with a large collection of guns. They're quite honestly the most stable people you can meet.


How about their children? Not so much, I expect
Adam Lanza looks so stable, doesn't he...
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2012-12-16 11:51:28 PM  

AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.


OK, Cop Math.

So, let's divide by two and decrease by an order of magnitude. $100,000 / 2 / 10 = just $5,000 worth of ammo.

Depending on the rounds, at ~$300/thousand rounds that's still around 16,000 rounds. 16 1,000-round cases of ammo, almost 500 lbs of bullets.
 
2012-12-16 11:52:22 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: fta: he allegedly threatened to set his wife on fire

oh great, now we are going to have matches control.


I only support a ban on sem-automatic assault matches.
 
2012-12-16 11:52:32 PM  
That's it! Enough is enough! We need idle threat control! I've had enough of people threatening to do things as a cry for help! Maybe a tax stamp system that limits how grandiose a threat people could make and that funds mental health clinics for threatening type people. Stop the madness!
 
2012-12-16 11:53:00 PM  

BuckTurgidson: AbbeySomeone: namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.

Cop math.
See also drug seizure threads.

OK, Cop Math.

So, let's divide by two and decrease by an order of magnitude. $100,000 / 2 / 10 = just $5,000 worth of ammo.

Depending on the rounds, at ~$300/thousand rounds that's still around 16,000 rounds. 16 1,000-round cases of ammo, almost 500 lbs of bullets.


He got Monster brand bullets.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:11 PM  

sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:18 PM  
I hope people remember (or at lease CARE enough about) part of my last statement to not automatically jump to a knee-jerk reaction.

YES, there are still people in this country that choose to live a very simple lifestyle. They hunt for food, they trap/hunt to make money to pay their bills, etc.

It is our heritage, and that is not hyperbole. There are still people here that do not have electricity because they live a more "traditional" way of life.

Banning guns would mean the absolute destruction of an entire culture and way of life. These people are not so-called gun nuts. They are people who live off the land, and REQUIRE a firearm to provide a living. Their very way of life, and the culture of an entire people depends upon it.

We don't HAVE "collector's items". If it's a gun, it needs to WORK. For example, I have an 1895 Winchester in 25/35 Win caliber. It was actually made in 1895. That gun LITERALLY fed a family of 6 kids. If a deer or wild hog wasn't shot with it, then people went without FOOD. It's not a collector's item...it still shoots. A collector's item belongs in a museum. My 1895 Winchester Trapper model is a piece of culture...not art.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:45 PM  

MeanJean: Gulper Eel

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

You know what she could have done?

NOT HAD farkING GUNS IN THE HOUSE WHERE CRAZY BOY COULD GET TO THEM.

He must have been showing a few signs of being crazy, why didn't she lock the guns up?


Since we don't know what happened at their house, speculation is pointless. But I will anyway. Maybe they were in a safe but she gave him the combination under extreme duress. Maybe they were in a wooden gun cabinet that was locked but he just smashed the hell out of it to get at the guns.

Just seems to be jumping the gun to blame Mom for what this douchefark did.
 
2012-12-16 11:53:52 PM  
Funny...

If I collect $100,000 worth of Pokemon merchandise, I'm "obsessed".
If I collect $100,000 worth of newspapers, I'm a "hoarder".
If I collect $100,000 worth of guns, I'm a "model citizen exercising his 2nd amendment rights".
 
2012-12-16 11:54:20 PM  
There's something in gun oil. Maybe it didn't used to be there. But it's turning people nuts.
 
2012-12-16 11:54:33 PM  

TheJoe03: Pardon Me Sultan: I find it amusing when those who don't even have a basic grasp on grammar and spelling call others morons.

One clue in distinguishing between trolls and those who really are as stupid as they make themselves sound, I guess.

So instead of addressing anything you go after my grammar? Good job!


In fairness, I think that more folks than just myself have you Farkied as "not the brightest soul"--or words to similar effect--on the basis of your previous posts. There is a point where you have to point and laugh at the sucker flailing about with mad abandon in his own flop sweat...
 
2012-12-16 11:54:34 PM  

mr lawson: sethen320: The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?

Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.

you sound poor
/your pet peeve sucks


I agree with mr lawson. you sounded like a huge douche by bragging that you paid for a 100k condo. it added zero the the conversation and was not funny or meaningful in any way.
 
2012-12-16 11:54:55 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.


I couldn't have demonstrated the generalization of and stigma against mental illness (which, counterproductively, leads to people being reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment) any better if I'd tried. So thanks for that, I guess.
 
2012-12-16 11:55:01 PM  

NarrMaster: If I collect $100,000 worth of guns, I'm a "model citizen exercising his 2nd amendment rights".


No, you're an unstable gun nut.
 
2012-12-16 11:55:17 PM  
Douchebags like this who hoard ammo and therefore make it more expensive for me to go to the range are douchebags.
 
2012-12-16 11:55:34 PM  

mr lawson: sethen320: The_Sponge: sethen320: The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.

Yes, we get it. You're very proud of yourself and you're doing very well. We are all very happy you paid over 100K for a condo. You have hereby been recognized and your own self-worth is affirmed.

Do you have anything which may actually contribute to the conversation, or would you like to tell us how much your car is worth too?


Wow.....what crawled up your ass?

Nothing, it's a peeve of mine I guess. In normal conversation it's generally considered rude. The person you answered mentioned a value of 10K and you upped the ante and decided to let us know you spent 10 times that. Not relevant, and it sounds like bragging. If you had used the original 10K as a point, at least then it would have had relevance. Maybe I'm just being a dick, sorry if you're offended. I'll shut up about it now.

you sound poor
/your pet peeve sucks


oops, I mean I agree with sethen.
 
2012-12-16 11:56:26 PM  
I'm wondering WHEN did he make these threats? I'm guessing he made these threats weeks or months ago and it took a national incident to make the locals respond to something sitting in the "whack job" pile.
 
2012-12-16 11:56:50 PM  
And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...
 
2012-12-16 11:57:00 PM  

hubiestubert: In fairness, I think that more folks than just myself have you Farkied as "not the brightest soul"--or words to similar effect--on the basis of your previous posts.


Good for you. Funny that you judge other people's intelligence because they disagree with you. If you want to discuss the topic at hand that would be great, but to say I'm stupid because I make errors over a phone is pretty amusing. I guess it makes you feel better.
 
2012-12-16 11:57:40 PM  
I got you farkied as a dumbass too, for what it's worth.
 
2012-12-16 11:58:11 PM  

giftedmadness: look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.



I love variety.
 
2012-12-16 11:59:10 PM  

giftedmadness: I agree with mr lawson. you sounded like a huge douche by bragging that you paid for a 100k condo. it added zero the the conversation and was not funny or meaningful in any way.



You'll get over it....he did.
 
2012-12-16 11:59:19 PM  

Felgraf: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm saying make it harder for the nutjobs to get guns, but DONT make it more expensive or impossible for responsible gun owners to get them.

I used quotes because that seems to be the excuse for nearly every mass-shooter in recent times, like it farking matters. Like I'm gonna have sympathy on the bastard because he has farking autism.

Okay, but here's my take on it: any attempted check *will*, at the very least, make things more inconvenient for gun owners, because the state/gunshop/etc *can't know* if you're nuts or not without checking somehow (Like, say, asking for proof you've seen a shrink.) And unless the state is paying for these mental health checks (which would cost a looottaaaa money, and necessitate either higher taxes, or a fee along with the gun to cover it), then it'll have to be done on the gun owner's dime... which will, again, make it more expensive for them.

I suppose the problem is that I don't see, among other things, a solution that *doesn't* get the NRA pitching a screaming hissyfit, which will make it much harder to get anything done, I think.

(this is, again, all just my opinion)

And fair enough, the use of airquotes more made me think you were implying that Autism/the autism spectrum wasn't real, which... confused me.

For what it's worth, I suspect the Autism statements are more to try and piece together what happened/why they did what they did, than a reason to feel sympathy for them.


The people afraid of ANY regulations are just as stupid IMO as the people who want to ban ALL guns, or even just guns deemed to be "assault weapons" based upon innocuous details.

so what if its more inconvenient to have your mental health called into question when you try to buy a firearm?! What's worse: having your crazy schizophrenic neighbor with Asperger's whine because his nd amendment rights were "infringed" because he's too nuts to buy a gun, or having twenty 6 and 7 year-old slaughtered like animals by the same nutjob?

Which one is more likely to make gun owners have to be afraid of guns being banned? see my point?

Gun owners as a whole need to get a clue, and so do those that think banning all guns or limiting the kinds of guns that can be bought will somehow prevent mass shootings.
 
2012-12-16 11:59:26 PM  

NarrMaster: And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...


Holy THIS.
 
2012-12-16 11:59:59 PM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Banning guns would mean the absolute destruction of an entire culture and way of life. These people are not so-called gun nuts. They are people who live off the land, and REQUIRE a firearm to provide a living. Their very way of life, and the culture of an entire people depends upon it.


not to mention hunting feeds a HELL of a lot of people who otherwise would go hungry
 
2012-12-17 12:01:15 AM  

Kurmudgeon: BraveNewCheneyWorld: guess how I know that you have never met someone with a large collection of guns. They're quite honestly the most stable people you can meet.

How about their children? Not so much, I expect
Adam Lanza looks so stable, doesn't he...
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He looks like Andy Dick's little brother.
 
2012-12-17 12:01:17 AM  
It's nice to put a face on the 2A crowd. Just as I thought.
 
2012-12-17 12:01:25 AM  

The_Sponge: giftedmadness: I agree with mr lawson. you sounded like a huge douche by bragging that you paid for a 100k condo. it added zero the the conversation and was not funny or meaningful in any way.


You'll get over it....he did.


I have nothing to "get over". I wasn't offended by it.
 
2012-12-17 12:02:19 AM  

apoptotic: The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

I couldn't have demonstrated the generalization of and stigma against mental illness (which, counterproductively, leads to people being reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment) any better if I'd tried. So thanks for that, I guess.


You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?
 
2012-12-17 12:02:20 AM  
This is nothing but a long running Elephants turd
 
2012-12-17 12:02:58 AM  

giftedmadness: look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.


Get the fark out of the man's profile. You're just looking for reasons to personally attack him.
 
2012-12-17 12:03:05 AM  
so the mom was a prepper, but wasn't prepped for her son going crazy?
 
2012-12-17 12:03:53 AM  

TheJoe03: hubiestubert: In fairness, I think that more folks than just myself have you Farkied as "not the brightest soul"--or words to similar effect--on the basis of your previous posts.

Good for you. Funny that you judge other people's intelligence because they disagree with you. If you want to discuss the topic at hand that would be great, but to say I'm stupid because I make errors over a phone is pretty amusing. I guess it makes you feel better.


Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...
 
2012-12-17 12:04:27 AM  

megarian: NarrMaster: And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...

Holy THIS.


Because it's all copypasta from a FEW sources. They're called talking points for a REASON.
 
d23 [BareFark]
2012-12-17 12:04:43 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: The people afraid of ANY regulations are just as stupid IMO as the people who want to ban ALL guns, or even just guns deemed to be "assault weapons" based upon innocuous details.


This is exactly the attitude that is sticking hot pokers up the ass of American society...
 
2012-12-17 12:04:45 AM  

NarrMaster: Funny...

If I collect $100,000 worth of Pokemon merchandise, I'm "obsessed".
If I collect $100,000 worth of newspapers, I'm a "hoarder".
If I collect $100,000 worth of guns, I'm a "model citizen exercising his 2nd amendment rights".


Or you could just be a legitimate collector. I've seen private collections worth far more than that. Not saying that is this guy.
 
2012-12-17 12:04:46 AM  
Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.
 
2012-12-17 12:04:50 AM  

mr lawson: The more you eat the more you fart: Banning guns would mean the absolute destruction of an entire culture and way of life. These people are not so-called gun nuts. They are people who live off the land, and REQUIRE a firearm to provide a living. Their very way of life, and the culture of an entire people depends upon it.

not to mention hunting feeds a HELL of a lot of people who otherwise would go hungry


I do this. Every single year, I donate two deer to the local Salvation Army shelter. If I am lucky enough to get a few wild hogs, I will donate one or two of those as well.
 
2012-12-17 12:05:27 AM  

pacified: so the mom was a prepper, but wasn't prepped for her son going crazy?



--------

Those on the right are usually looking the wrong way.
 
2012-12-17 12:05:55 AM  

hubiestubert: Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...


Whatever nerd, go suck a fark.
 
2012-12-17 12:06:46 AM  

hubiestubert: folks with delusions of competence...


Plus talk about projection, oh boy!
 
d23 [BareFark]
2012-12-17 12:07:06 AM  

Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.


All of a sudden I am reminded of the Bill Hicks routine where the hick asks him "Why are you reading" in a restaurant. I am guessing for thim the money for the ammo.. perfectly justified, but the money for books... WHOOO, total waste of cash.
 
2012-12-17 12:08:26 AM  
Pics of him wielding 47 guns, please.
 
2012-12-17 12:08:37 AM  

NarrMaster: And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...


Because they're batshiat crazy, of course. They incorrectly believe themselves to be superior to others and the capitalization of random words is their way of reminding us of that fact.
 
2012-12-17 12:09:47 AM  
The events taking place regarding mass shootings are odd.

Just remember kids, governments have proven to be the worse mass murderers. Don't give up your right to protect yourself using guns.
 
2012-12-17 12:10:02 AM  

USP .45: NarrMaster: Funny...

If I collect $100,000 worth of Pokemon merchandise, I'm "obsessed".
If I collect $100,000 worth of newspapers, I'm a "hoarder".
If I collect $100,000 worth of guns, I'm a "model citizen exercising his 2nd amendment rights".

Or you could just be a legitimate collector. I've seen private collections worth far more than that. Not saying that is this guy.


I know, that was a mild attempt at trolling. I like some guns. I'm not obsessed with them. I don't even own any.

Dools: megarian: NarrMaster: And on a side note, what's with THE random CAPITALIZATION of words that right wing gun hoarders use WHEN they post? I've been seeing a huge increase that last few days. Here and on Facebook...

Holy THIS.

Because it's all copypasta from a FEW sources. They're called talking points for a REASON.


I don't think so. I had a real conversation on Facebook, and their part wasn't copypasta....
 
2012-12-17 12:10:31 AM  

Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.


I own five fireams. Five. Does that make me a "gun nut" too?

a 1952 Winchester Model 70 Featherweight in 270Win
a 2009 Winchester model 70 SuperShadow in 270WSM
a Remington 1100-LT 20 shotgun
a Walther P99 Military in 9mm
a Ruger mark III Target model 22 pistol

the ONLY one of these that isnt used for hunting is the Walther pistol. I didnt count the 1895 Winchester because I don't use it for anything at all. It's a family heirloom, so its not exactly a collector's item, and I dont wanna shoot it because I'm afraid to bring it out into the woods because it might get damaged.
 
2012-12-17 12:10:33 AM  
These things are only news stories in light of the recent events.
 
2012-12-17 12:11:10 AM  

d23: Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.

All of a sudden I am reminded of the Bill Hicks routine where the hick asks him "Why are you reading" in a restaurant. I am guessing for thim the money for the ammo.. perfectly justified, but the money for books... WHOOO, total waste of cash.


What am I reading for?
So I don't end a Waffle House waitress.
 
2012-12-17 12:12:07 AM  

spamdog: giftedmadness: look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.

Get the fark out of the man's profile. You're just looking for reasons to personally attack him.


why have profiles then? aren't they there for reading? I'm not attacking him at all. I just think it's funny to have 15 different favorite cigars.
 
2012-12-17 12:15:33 AM  
The more you eat the more you fart I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?



Uhhh, hey there buddy..... um....

...something about a cunning plan..... and not thinking it through.... or something....
 
2012-12-17 12:15:41 AM  
This guy is obviously off balance. At some point, you have enough guns (for the moment!) and treat yourself instead to a good beer, or a fine whiskey, or a great meal. Or a good vacation.
 
2012-12-17 12:15:47 AM  

TheJoe03: hubiestubert: Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...

Whatever nerd, go suck a fark.


"Whatever nerd, go suck a fark."

Wow.

You're a Rhodes Scholar, right?
 
2012-12-17 12:15:48 AM  

iq_in_binary: HERE

There's a proposal. From a gunsmith no less.

Don't let it be said gun owners aren't willing to compromise.


That works for me...

/ again, there are no easy or absolute solutions for this problem
// it's too bad we don't have a frontier or a colony where we could ship nutjobs to...
 
2012-12-17 12:15:57 AM  

USP .45: NarrMaster: Funny...

If I collect $100,000 worth of Pokemon merchandise, I'm "obsessed".
If I collect $100,000 worth of newspapers, I'm a "hoarder".
If I collect $100,000 worth of guns, I'm a "model citizen exercising his 2nd amendment rights".

Or you could just be a legitimate collector. I've seen private collections worth far more than that. Not saying that is this guy.


I think the issue is less the number of guns and the stockpiles of ammunition, but the threat, especially so soon after the Connecticut shooting. Having guns shouldn't be the issue--there are a good number of folks who collect arms, who have good sized ranges, who are responsible gun owners, who are responsible citizens. This cat? He's not helping, and noting that an individual had the call made for threatening to set his wife on fire, it isn't so much an abridgment of his 2nd Amendment rights, than police responding to a domestic abuse call, and then getting a load of crazy in their faces to boot.

Not a stable individual. Not because of the number of weapons--heck, I've got few pistols, a couple of shotguns, and a few longarms myself and I rarely head to the range thanks to my job and moving a bit--or even the stockpile of ammo, but the whole threatening to set fire to his wife and then gun down elementary schoolkids because the police responded to a call.

Folks like this give responsible gun owners a bad name. They pretty much give all Americans a bad name, really. It's not being a gun owner or enthusiast that is the issue, but being a raging asshat who likes to threaten folks when he gets in his cups. Not all that uncommon, but given the whole vibe the nation is going through right now, maybe threatening schoolkids in a frothy rage calls into question his grip on anything looking like a sane decision tree...
 
2012-12-17 12:16:00 AM  

The_Sponge: HotWingAgenda: Jesus, that is one wealthy homicidal maniac. I don't even have $10,000 worth of anything.


The only thing I own that is worth over $100,000 is my condo.

/Hard to kill somebody with that.


I'll have you know my mother was killed by a condo. I'll never forgive that biatch Dorothy!
 
2012-12-17 12:16:16 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: Gulper Eel: Weaver95: i'm curious - do you think maybe we should upgrade the mental health care system in this country? maybe find a way to make sure people get the help they need BEFORE they go on a shooting rampage...?

You might want to bring that up with the Connecticut state legislature. They are one of six states without an assisted outpatient treatment law.

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

oh I know...its just that I'm hearing a LOT of GOP types suddenly changing their opinions on Obamacare over this latest mass shooting.

wut?
How broad of a brush are you using to make that statement?

How would 0bamacare if implemented as written have prevented the shooting?


We'd be shooting fascists and their bootlickers instead of random lunatics murdering children
 
2012-12-17 12:16:29 AM  

Coco LaFemme: Wow.

You're a Rhodes Scholar, right?


No, just an asshole, Coco Lacoont.
 
2012-12-17 12:17:03 AM  
Jae0o0 SmartestFunniest 2012-12-16 11:35:19 PM


Gdalescrboz: Jae0o0
"Gdalescrboz: 5 guns, 10 guns, 100 guns; you can only shoot 1 at a time

Not if you're shooting handguns. You can do two at a time."

Someone's been watching to many Jason Stathom movies

If you can't shoot two .22s at once, you're probably a child or sickly.I've never shot a .22 that had any kick to it. I wouldn't try it with larger calibers though.


Gotta watch out for those guys dual wielding .22s going on shooting rampages. Or shooting anything for that matter
 
2012-12-17 12:17:30 AM  
I had a feeling I would see this.

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2012-12-17 12:17:31 AM  
Dear media:

If someone "threatens" to do something, he wasn't going to do it, because by "threatening" one guarantees attention by the authorities which pretty much ensures one will be unable to follow through with one's threats. Hence, this douchebag had no intention of "killing as many people as he could" and what he really wanted was a lot of attention.

Which you just gave him.

In spades.

Thanks so much for fulfilling this sad little man's dearest wish, which was to become some kind of minor celebrity. Don't you feel special.
 
2012-12-17 12:17:33 AM  

giftedmadness: spamdog: giftedmadness: look at sponge's profile where he lists his favorite liquors, beers, and cigars. there are like 15 of each, so funny, lol.

Get the fark out of the man's profile. You're just looking for reasons to personally attack him.

why have profiles then? aren't they there for reading? I'm not attacking him at all. I just think it's funny to have 15 different favorite cigars.



1) Exactly, I don't care who looks at my profile.

2) Yeah, it does seem like overkill. The list kind of became long because various people on TFD were asking for cigar recommendations from time to time, and I would just tell them to check out my profile.
 
2012-12-17 12:17:43 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.

I own five fireams. Five. Does that make me a "gun nut" too?


It makes you a chip-shouldered goober refusing to acknowledge the difference between "5" and "47".

I own a few firearms myself. Owning double-digits of them for any reason other than trading for a profit would make me a gun fetishist.
 
2012-12-17 12:18:07 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.


Well put.
 
2012-12-17 12:18:42 AM  

TheJoe03: hubiestubert: Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...

Whatever nerd, go suck a fark.


Yeah, I agree, nerd, even by fark's standards. I mean the guy refers to himself in the 3rd person.
 
2012-12-17 12:18:44 AM  

TheJoe03: hubiestubert: Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...

Whatever nerd, go suck a fark.


I thought briefly about putting this poor sod on Ignore, but damnation if we shouldn't just bless his poor, dear, sweet, trying heart...
 
2012-12-17 12:18:52 AM  

snuff3r: [newspaper.li image 470x313]

Sneaky farking russians.

/boris!


Weird. I just saw the guy's pic and the first thing I thought of was the villain from "The Saint".
 
2012-12-17 12:19:14 AM  

TheJoe03: Coco LaFemme: Wow.

You're a Rhodes Scholar, right?

No, just an asshole, Coco Lacoont.


That was magical. Thanks.
 
2012-12-17 12:19:28 AM  
WTF is wrong with America? FFS.
 
2012-12-17 12:19:59 AM  

hubiestubert: I thought briefly about putting this poor sod on Ignore, but damnation if we shouldn't just bless his poor, dear, sweet, trying heart..


Ah a pretentious nerd as well. Good for you buddy. WACKA WACKA!
 
2012-12-17 12:20:27 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: apoptotic: The more you eat the more you fart: STUPID CRAZY MOTHERFARKING FARKTARD BASTARDS!

The problem clearly is NOT the guns...its the crazy sumbiatches with mental disorders GETTING them that's the problem.

I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

I couldn't have demonstrated the generalization of and stigma against mental illness (which, counterproductively, leads to people being reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment) any better if I'd tried. So thanks for that, I guess.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?


My point is that you're not helping. According to your own rant, you're demanding that someone should take your gun(s) away. And logically, the only way to ensure you don't have access to firearms would be to also prevent anyone who lives with you, or to whose property you have access, from having any. So then your friends and family will be in a position of having to choose between you and their guns. Do you disagree that someone who hasn't yet been diagnosed may be reluctant to put themselves in that position?

And that's not even to mention that not all mental illnesses include a propensity toward violence in the first place, yet when it comes to these discussions it seems that "mentally ill" and "violent" are used interchangeably.
 
2012-12-17 12:20:28 AM  

hubiestubert: TheJoe03: hubiestubert: In fairness, I think that more folks than just myself have you Farkied as "not the brightest soul"--or words to similar effect--on the basis of your previous posts.

Good for you. Funny that you judge other people's intelligence because they disagree with you. If you want to discuss the topic at hand that would be great, but to say I'm stupid because I make errors over a phone is pretty amusing. I guess it makes you feel better.

Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...


I know you're having fun with the little derp-tard but I just wanted to step in for a moment and say that even as a very libby-lib I agree with gun control, I mean sure regulations like drivers licenses and increasing from there, sure, but restriction no way.
/And I'd gladly buy you a beer : )
 
2012-12-17 12:20:35 AM  

Forbidden Doughnut: The more you eat the more you fart: If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

Well put.


Yup. Exactly why we revoke driving privileges from drunk drivers.
 
2012-12-17 12:21:01 AM  

Coco LaFemme: That was magical. Thanks.


Anytime sugartits.
 
2012-12-17 12:21:37 AM  
Yeah, this is why spree shootings are more of a mental health care issue than a gun issue. Most people crazy enough to go murdering random people are not terribly subtle about it if anyone's actually paying any attention.
 
2012-12-17 12:21:39 AM  

gerbilpox: [www.theblaze.com image 528x333]

Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?


You know who else had facial hair under his nostrils?
 
2012-12-17 12:22:14 AM  

Pincy: twiztedjustin: What a wacko, but sorry Farkers, someone is law abiding until they aren't.

Hence the reason to put sensible restrictions on gun ownership. Because anyone is a potential nut job just waiting to go off.



Yes, and who is to be the judge of this sensible restrictions?

The guy may have lived his whole life as a normal every day guy. There is nothing sensible about limiting someone that has never shown any signs.

You can put all the background checks & magazine restrictions out there you want, it doesn't affect crime or psychos.
 
2012-12-17 12:22:39 AM  

NarrMaster: The more you eat the more you fart I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?


Uhhh, hey there buddy..... um....

...something about a cunning plan..... and not thinking it through.... or something....


No, actually YOU missed the point.

I'd be more than willing to have the FBI dig through my medical records and find out that I'm not prone to violence, if it means that someone who *is* doesn't get to buy a gun.

newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

Only the very severe cases do. Doesn't and wouldn't apply to me.

however, my point remains...I, as a gun owner AND a person with bipolar disorder, am willing to compromise and allow a more intrusive background check to be done. Because I understand that SOME people with the same disorder as me ARE prone to violence...i'd rather have my past and my medical records dug through with a fine-tooth comb than have a bunch of little kids killed.

I'm a father. Nothing comes before that. As a father, if it means people will have to give up some of their "privacy" in order to ensure that violently mentally ill people can't get a gun, then so farking be it.

HIPAA law says that medical information is privledged and that no one that doesnt need to know about it has a right to view it...well...what I'm saying is that if you're buying a firearm, the fbi needs to know about your history. That includes ME.
 
2012-12-17 12:23:20 AM  

iq_in_binary: HERE

There's a proposal. From a gunsmith no less.

Don't let it be said gun owners aren't willing to compromise.


How about we get the name of the business this "gunsmith" works for?

I thought so.

same post, that confident.
 
2012-12-17 12:23:31 AM  

wildcardjack: I'm wondering WHEN did he make these threats? I'm guessing he made these threats weeks or months ago and it took a national incident to make the locals respond to something sitting in the "whack job" pile.


I'm guessing that his old lady got sick of his crap and decided to go chat with the local constabulary.
 
2012-12-17 12:24:18 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: so what if its more inconvenient to have your mental health called into question when you try to buy a firearm?!


The issue might be, who is doing the judgement on that 'mental health'? Or whatever other blockade might be put in the path of purchasing a firearm (beyond the existing background checks).
 
2012-12-17 12:25:00 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: NarrMaster: The more you eat the more you fart I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?


Uhhh, hey there buddy..... um....

...something about a cunning plan..... and not thinking it through.... or something....

No, actually YOU missed the point.

I'd be more than willing to have the FBI dig through my medical records and find out that I'm not prone to violence, if it means that someone who *is* doesn't get to buy a gun.

newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

Only the very severe cases do. Doesn't and wouldn't apply to me.

however, my point remains...I, as a gun owner AND a person with bipolar disorder, am willing to compromise and allow a more intrusive background check to be done. Because I understand that SOME people with the same disorder as me ARE prone to violence...i'd rather have my past and my medical records dug through with a fine-tooth comb than have a bunch of little kids killed.

I'm a father. Nothing comes before that. As a father, if it means people will have to give up some of their "privacy" in order to ensure that violently mentally ill people can't get a gun, then so farking be it.

HIPAA law says that medical information is privledged and that no one that doesnt need to know about it has a ...


You didn't say "violent" in your post, you said "ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder", of which bipolar is one. I never said you were violent.
 
2012-12-17 12:25:32 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Dear media:

If someone "threatens" to do something, he wasn't going to do it, because by "threatening" one guarantees attention by the authorities which pretty much ensures one will be unable to follow through with one's threats. Hence, this douchebag had no intention of "killing as many people as he could" and what he really wanted was a lot of attention.

Which you just gave him.

In spades.

Thanks so much for fulfilling this sad little man's dearest wish, which was to become some kind of minor celebrity. Don't you feel special.


Or mental health care, granted he supposedly could buy all those guns & ammo but...
/I hope he get's the pills he needs.
 
2012-12-17 12:25:35 AM  

BuckTurgidson: The more you eat the more you fart: Max Awesome: Typical gun-fetishist. Welcome to the NRA's America.

I don't own 47 of anything. Except maybe books.

I own five fireams. Five. Does that make me a "gun nut" too?

It makes you a chip-shouldered goober refusing to acknowledge the difference between "5" and "47".

I own a few firearms myself. Owning double-digits of them for any reason other than trading for a profit would make me a gun fetishist.


Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.
 
2012-12-17 12:25:39 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: NarrMaster: The more you eat the more you fart I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?


Uhhh, hey there buddy..... um....

...something about a cunning plan..... and not thinking it through.... or something....

No, actually YOU missed the point.

I'd be more than willing to have the FBI dig through my medical records and find out that I'm not prone to violence, if it means that someone who *is* doesn't get to buy a gun.

newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

Only the very severe cases do. Doesn't and wouldn't apply to me.

however, my point remains...I, as a gun owner AND a person with bipolar disorder, am willing to compromise and allow a more intrusive background check to be done. Because I understand that SOME people with the same disorder as me ARE prone to violence...i'd rather have my past and my medical records dug through with a fine-tooth comb than have a bunch of little kids killed.

I'm a father. Nothing comes before that. As a father, if it means people will have to give up some of their "privacy" in order to ensure that violently mentally ill people can't get a gun, then so farking be it.

HIPAA law says that medical information is privledged and that no one that doesnt need to know about it has a ...


4th, go fark yourself.
 
2012-12-17 12:26:34 AM  
Mental health issues must have run in the family..what parent has an arsenal of weapons in the home with their mentally unstable child?
 
2012-12-17 12:26:53 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Yeah, this is why spree shootings are more of a mental health care issue than a gun issue. Most people crazy enough to go murdering random people are not terribly subtle about it if anyone's actually paying any attention.


Too bad our society chooses not to pony up enough for anyone to pay any attention.

Cost of doing business, I suppose.
 
2012-12-17 12:27:51 AM  
Goddammit, about three hours ago, I received a robo-call from my nephew's high school principal saying that there had been a threat made here in Kingman Arizona. Fortunately, the young idiot was apprehended, according to the message. I just wonder if they'd have called if he was still at large.
 
2012-12-17 12:28:03 AM  

othmar: This is nothing but a long running Elephants turd

You're some sort of bot, aren't you?
 
2012-12-17 12:28:53 AM  

Centerpoint: Mental health issues must have run in the family..what parent has an arsenal of weapons in the home with their mentally unstable child?



Mom should have taken them out of the house and given to a friend for safekeeping until her son was no longer living there.

/Had to do that when my brother was living with me back in 2006.
//He had a mental breakdown, and I loaded up my firearms and dropped them off at a friend's house.
 
2012-12-17 12:28:55 AM  
These copycat guys are aftershocks.
 
2012-12-17 12:29:21 AM  

thisisarepeat: 4th, go fark yourself.


Why nothing will change.
 
2012-12-17 12:29:37 AM  
So is there some organized domestic terrorist organization that is planning this shiat or something?
 
2012-12-17 12:29:56 AM  
47 of those guns will never make anything of themselves and will always be dependent on that guy
 
2012-12-17 12:30:06 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Forbidden Doughnut: The more you eat the more you fart: If a drunk gets behind the wheel of a car and kills a busload of people, do you blame the CAR? No...you blame the arsehole drunk. Same with guns. Blame the person, not the tool.

Well put.

Yup. Exactly why we revoke driving privileges from drunk drivers.


We also revoke the right to own guns from felons. Not just gun criminals, any felon.
 
2012-12-17 12:30:11 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: NarrMaster: The more you eat the more you fart I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.
//also, tired of them giving ammunition (pun intended) to the anti-gun crowd. Its NOT the guns...its the crazy person holding it.

You are making assumptions. I have bipolar disorder, sooo.....what's your point?


Uhhh, hey there buddy..... um....

...something about a cunning plan..... and not thinking it through.... or something....

No, actually YOU missed the point.

I'd be more than willing to have the FBI dig through my medical records and find out that I'm not prone to violence, if it means that someone who *is* doesn't get to buy a gun.

newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

Only the very severe cases do. Doesn't and wouldn't apply to me.

however, my point remains...I, as a gun owner AND a person with bipolar disorder, am willing to compromise and allow a more intrusive background check to be done. Because I understand that SOME people with the same disorder as me ARE prone to violence...i'd rather have my past and my medical records dug through with a fine-tooth comb than have a bunch of little kids killed.

I'm a father. Nothing comes before that. As a father, if it means people will have to give up some of their "privacy" in order to ensure that violently mentally ill people can't get a gun, then so farking be it.

HIPAA law says that medical information is privledged and that no one that doesnt need to know about it has a ...


Also, your ability to produce crotch fruit has absolutely nothing to do with my rights under the BILL OF RIGHTS in the U.S. Constitution.

fark you and your family.
 
2012-12-17 12:30:17 AM  

lewismarktwo: Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.


I'll take that bet.
 
2012-12-17 12:32:13 AM  

BuckTurgidson: lewismarktwo: Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.

I'll take that bet.


Oops, missed that part. TFA said many were collectibles. Here's your donuts: OOOOOOOOOOOO
 
2012-12-17 12:33:40 AM  

ambassador_ahab: Mr. Coffee Nerves: at the direct order of the United Nations

What, exactly, is the authority the United Nations has over our country?


None. In fact the united nations is primarily funded by the us. Well as of 10 years ago, when I did model un in college...
 
2012-12-17 12:34:02 AM  

apoptotic: The more you eat the more you fart: apoptotic:

My point is that you're not helping. According to your own rant, you're demanding that someone should take your gun(s) away. And logically, the only way to ensure you don't have access to firearms would be to also prevent anyone who lives with you, or to whose property you have access, from having any. So then your friends and family will be in a position of having to choose between you and their guns. Do you disagree that someone who hasn't yet been diagnosed may be reluctant to put themselves in that position?

And that's not even to mention that not all mental illnesses include a propensity toward vio ...



the short answer: yes.

The not-so-short answer: sorta.

If I lived with my parents for example, yes, they should be required to keep the things locked up with a key that I would not have access to.

If not being able to buy a gun keeps someone from seeking treatment, then I dunno what to say except that it would kinda be an even bigger example of why they would need it.

As it stands, it is extremely hard to have someone committed. Loosen the restrictions. If parents have a reason to think their loved ones are mentally ill, it should be easier for them to get that person help.

Yes, the sick have rights...even those mentally sick. However, its not the same as having appendicitis. People with mental illnesses don't always act in a rational, clear-headed way. they cannot always see themselves in a realistic way, or be able to judge their behavior accurately. Therefore, those that are able to should be able to get them help...against their will if necessary.

And yes, when I was severely depressed, I didnt WANT help, but I'm damned glad someone was eventually able to convince me to seek help. My life drastically improved since that point many years ago.

So yeah...sorry, but I feel very little sympathy for people stuck in a state of denial as everyone around them tells them they are sick and need that help. At a certain point, you have to be responsible for yourself.

Dont want the help? Dont want to listen to the doctors or take your meds? Fine...but don't expect to be able to buy or keep firearms around.
 
2012-12-17 12:34:54 AM  

faeriefay: In fact the united nations is primarily funded by the us.


20% or so of the UN budget is funded by America, by far the largest contributor.
 
2012-12-17 12:36:02 AM  

studebaker hoch: These copycat guys are aftershocks.


I'd say the school attack itself was an aftershock of the Mall Shooting the other day.
 
2012-12-17 12:37:11 AM  
Let's change the second amendment to "Thou shalt have the right to mental health care".
 
2012-12-17 12:37:44 AM  

thisisarepeat:


I get that you don't want any regulations on firearms. Sorry, but that is a foregone conclusion at this point, and you will have to adapt.

Clearly, you choose not to have kids. I don't care. I dont care if you have kids or not...to see 20+ little kids killed and to only be able to think about your own unrestricted "right" to buy whatever guns you want points to the fact that you are an entitled, narcissistic sociopathic prick.

Eat a dick.

 
2012-12-17 12:38:54 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Let's change the second amendment to "Thou shalt have the right to mental health care".


I was thinking that if someone were to ever amend the 2nd amendment, it should be like this:

1. The right of mentally competent individuals to keep and bear firearms for the purposes of self-defense and recreation shall not be infringed.

That should make everyone happy, right?
 
2012-12-17 12:39:46 AM  
Forget stricter gun laws. We need stricter enforcement of condom use. Too many A-holes & D-bags popping out weirdos.
 
2012-12-17 12:40:46 AM  

NarrMaster: newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.


And the ones who are....aren't...until they are. Do you really think that the FBI, or whichever bureaucracy ends up in charge of approving/denying firearms permits is going to put themselves on the hook for predicting what symptoms someone will manifest in the future? No, they'd cover their own asses by doing exactly what you initially stated - denying permits to anyone with a diagnosis. Which would make people (or their families) reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment. So now you have expensive and time consuming hoops to jump through with benefits that may or may not be greater than the costs they pose and damage they have the potential to cause. Sure, you can fall back on the "if it stops even one person, it's worth it" argument, but how well has that worked for the TSA?
 
2012-12-17 12:40:49 AM  

MeanJean: Gulper Eel

We don't know enough of the shooter's backstory yet to know if the law would've applied to him, but still...this wasn't a question of resources (mom was getting some major coin in the divorce settlement) or upgrading the system. You can have all the resources in the world but if the law's not there to allow commitment, you the parent are SOL.

You know what she could have done?

NOT HAD farkING GUNS IN THE HOUSE WHERE CRAZY BOY COULD GET TO THEM.

He must have been showing a few signs of being crazy, why didn't she lock the guns up?


THANK YOU!!! I've been trying to make this same point all day (not on Fark).

Y'all, if ya got guns, and ya live with a crazy man, lock up yer guns, will ya?!?

Leaving them out where the crazy boy can get a hold of 'em just don't make no sense!!

Thank you. I will now return to speaking like mainstream America. I get my Southern drawl on when I get riled up.
 
2012-12-17 12:41:17 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.


Hey, fark you!
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.
 
2012-12-17 12:42:06 AM  

apoptotic: NarrMaster: newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

And the ones who are....aren't...until they are. Do you really think that the FBI, or whichever bureaucracy ends up in charge of approving/denying firearms permits is going to put themselves on the hook for predicting what symptoms someone will manifest in the future? No, they'd cover their own asses by doing exactly what you initially stated - denying permits to anyone with a diagnosis. Which would make people (or their families) reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment. So now you have expensive and time consuming hoops to jump through with benefits that may or may not be greater than the costs they pose and damage they have the potential to cause. Sure, you can fall back on the "if it stops even one person, it's worth it" argument, but how well has that worked for the TSA?


Dude, that wasn't my quote.
 
2012-12-17 12:42:27 AM  

Rockstone: That should make everyone happy, right?


is hunting for food self-defense or recreation?
/just leave off the last part
 
2012-12-17 12:43:18 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: STOP letting all the motherfarkers that are sick in the farking head get a gun!

/firearm owner who is SICK and TIRED of batshiat crazy people getting guns and making everyone who owns a gun suspect.


Lanza's weapon belonged to his presumably sane mother, whom he killed with it.

There was a time in my life where I briefly desired a gun. My wife talked me out of it before I even looked at prices, and her family had guns her whole life, even her grandmothers. Maybe I'm too nutty and vengeful to own a gun. I don't know. I didn't ask.

The fact is that guns are dangerous. Gun owners aren't necessarily dangerous, though they might purchase them to appear or feel that way. Your gun is more likely to hurt someone you know or someone you love than hurt a prowler or threat to your or their life.

Not every murderer is insane, not even the ones who make headlines for it. The guy who shot up the hair salon? Pissed about child custody. Half the murder-suicides I hear about are over that.
 
2012-12-17 12:44:33 AM  

Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.


It depends. In my opinion, perhaps we should have psychiatric evaluations for people like you because I've known people with Aspergers that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. We definitely can't move forward on this issue if it's looked at in a black and white way.
 
2012-12-17 12:45:23 AM  

NarrMaster: apoptotic: NarrMaster: newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

And the ones who are....aren't...until they are. Do you really think that the FBI, or whichever bureaucracy ends up in charge of approving/denying firearms permits is going to put themselves on the hook for predicting what symptoms someone will manifest in the future? No, they'd cover their own asses by doing exactly what you initially stated - denying permits to anyone with a diagnosis. Which would make people (or their families) reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment. So now you have expensive and time consuming hoops to jump through with benefits that may or may not be greater than the costs they pose and damage they have the potential to cause. Sure, you can fall back on the "if it stops even one person, it's worth it" argument, but how well has that worked for the TSA?

Dude, that wasn't my quote.


Yeah I just realized that, sorry about that. Apparently selecting just the text you want to quote and then hitting reply buggers it all up if you do it from someone else's reply.
 
2012-12-17 12:45:44 AM  

Rockstone: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

Hey, fark you!
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.



Have a history of violence or oppositional/defiant behavior? If so, then no...I do not think you should be allowed to own firearms. Sorry.
 
2012-12-17 12:45:55 AM  

BuckTurgidson: lewismarktwo: Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.

I'll take that bet.


He's got you. People "collect" every damn thing.
 
2012-12-17 12:47:11 AM  

gerbilpox: Am I the only one whose first thought was: "his facial hair is yellow under his nostrils"?

Just me? 'Kay.


/does 0bamacare cover Kleenex?


Gross. You're right.
 
2012-12-17 12:47:53 AM  

Aces and Eights: ross. You're right.


he smokes
 
2012-12-17 12:49:12 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: hubiestubert: TheJoe03: hubiestubert: In fairness, I think that more folks than just myself have you Farkied as "not the brightest soul"--or words to similar effect--on the basis of your previous posts.

Good for you. Funny that you judge other people's intelligence because they disagree with you. If you want to discuss the topic at hand that would be great, but to say I'm stupid because I make errors over a phone is pretty amusing. I guess it makes you feel better.

Actually, it's the specious reasoning and thin skin that earned it for you. There are plenty of folks who disagree with me on gun control, who I still wouldn't mind having a beer with. The sanctimoniousness of your posts coupled with their poor quality of logic is what folks tend to point and laugh at. It's not about disagreement or agreement, it's about poor logic and poor argumentation. But, you can keep it up, I mean, that's what Fark feeds on: folks with delusions of competence...

I know you're having fun with the little derp-tard but I just wanted to step in for a moment and say that even as a very libby-lib I agree with gun control, I mean sure regulations like drivers licenses and increasing from there, sure, but restriction no way.
/And I'd gladly buy you a beer : )


The problem with gun control debates, is that they are band aid solutions, and they detract from the conversation that we need to be having.

When we look at gun control debates, they boil down to basics: safety and crime.

Safety, as in keeping one's weapons in a secure fashion where there is zero chance of accidental discharge or someone picking up a weapon that doesn't know how to handle it. Goes for knives, goes for blades, goes for clubs and staves even. That's simple responsibility. Folks should be locking up and keeping their arms away from kids and the unwary. I can see demands for greater emphasis on safety in licensing courses. I can easily see a firearms safety course being necessary for licensing firearms and that mandated--standards differ from state to state, and even for concealed carries. Being declined for a license or concealed carry for issues from felonies or mental illness diagnosis, those are legitimate concerns for whether or not someone should be allowed to have a firearm near them.

The other issue, is crime. And when we talk crime, simple access to firearms doesn't turn folks into a criminal--though, the LAPD and Chicago and New York PD have been making a case for questioning that--but poor taste jokes aside, access to firearms no more turns folks into criminals, than access to blades. If that was the case, my entire profession would be just kill crazy. Kitchens DO attract a certain unstable element, often with substance abuse problems, and no small measure of stress and anger issues, but simple access to blades doesn't mean that cooks are slash-happy timebombs waiting to go off. Waitress shagging timebombs? Well, that might be true, but that's because waitresses and hostesses are close, we are in our cups, and they are closest and sometimes even get that we aren't always rage filled hate machines who scream at inanimate objects, or at least understand that often when we scream at the ticket machine or the oven or the grill, that it's an easy way to blow of stress that doesn't hurt peoples' feelings. If access to firearms alone was the biggest issue, then the Swiss would be a kill crazy nation. They aren't. Neither are the Canuckistanis.

We need to be looking at what pushes folks to crime in the first place. What pushes them to crimes of passion, what pushes folks deep into madness, what pushes folks into crime as an economic alternative. These are sometimes related issues, and what gun control debates do is sort of derail the real discussion, get folks hett up and choosing sides, when neither side really addresses the issues of social instability, mental health, economic stability and social equality that often couple together to give folks either an environment where violence IS a valid alternative or push folks without much of a social safety net towards a precipice that is thin enough for them to pop right over the edge.

What BOTH sides of gun control want, is safety and less crime. That is the kicker. Both sides want responsible individuals, they both want criminals dealt with, and they both want us to be safer. The how we get there, that's a bit different. The problem is, that the way these debates are framed, is that they get folks who BOTH want a safer society to feel like they are across a mighty chasm, and thus, can NEVER work together in a larger discussion in how to achieve that. And worse, are dismissive of one another because they differ on the how, and certain that their way is best, when neither is really discussing how to achieve a safer society, only instead they focus on symptoms. Some folks feel it better to throw a band aid over the wound, others feel that it's best let it fester in the open, but no one is apparently willing to entertain discussions on how to disinfect the real rot: and right now, that rot is in that very real economic instability and inequality, coupled with very real fear for safety both economic, physical, and medical, and that culture of fear doesn't lead to good places. It allows folks to make rash decisions on BOTH sides of this "debate" that don't actually address the real issue...

I appreciate that folks want their kids to be safe. I think we need a better way to discuss it than "gun grabber!" and "gun nut!" when both folks want to protect their families. There is common ground, if only folks will put down the beating sticks for a debate that does little to address the real issues, and all the time and money that is wasted on this debate, we could have looked at better solutions to cure the real disease...
 
2012-12-17 12:49:32 AM  
Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff.
 
2012-12-17 12:50:48 AM  

TheJoe03: Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.

It depends. In my opinion, perhaps we should have psychiatric evaluations for people like you because I've known people with Aspergers that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. We definitely can't move forward on this issue if it's looked at in a black and white way.


Pretty much this is what I'm saying.

I've known people with Asperger's that I wouldn't let have a steak knife to cut their food because they're just as likely to slit someone's throat out of the blue as they are to cut their New York strip.

Then, there are others that are just socially awkward, but otherwise kind, nice people.

Same with bipolar disorder. I've known a few people that have it that are prone to split-second without warning violent outbursts, and then there are others that do what they are supposed to do and are just normal, nice people.

Some kind of evaluation should be done. There are more restrictions on getting a driver's license.

And I'm not some anti-gun person either. In fact, I am STRONGLY pro-gun. I just have common sense.
 
2012-12-17 12:50:51 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Rockstone: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

Hey, fark you!
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.


Have a history of violence or oppositional/defiant behavior? If so, then no...I do not think you should be allowed to own firearms. Sorry.


No, I don't. But you painted way too broad a brush.

TheJoe03: It depends. In my opinion, perhaps we should have psychiatric evaluations for people like you because I've known people with Aspergers that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. We definitely can't move forward on this issue if it's looked at in a black and white way.


The problem is who should and shouldn't own a gun is mostly based on opinions.
 
2012-12-17 12:51:02 AM  

Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm?


Yes, I think exactly that. Also, no access to sharp objects or toxic household chemicals, because you will harm yourself and/or others with them in an episode over which neither you nor anyone else can have any possible control. In fact, you should be f*cking locked up.

How old are you, by the way?
 
2012-12-17 12:51:55 AM  

thisisarepeat: BuckTurgidson: lewismarktwo: Dollars to donuts most of this guy's collection were either collectables or not in working order/rusted to shiat.

I'll take that bet.

He's got you. People "collect" every damn thing.


See my followup, but that doesn't mean they're not fetishists.
 
2012-12-17 12:54:29 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: And I'm not some anti-gun person either. In fact, I am STRONGLY pro-gun. I just have common sense.


Same.

Rockstone: The problem is who should and shouldn't own a gun is mostly based on opinions.


Well a scientific (ie psychiatric) "opinion" holds a little more weight.
 
2012-12-17 12:55:33 AM  

apoptotic: NarrMaster: newsflash: not everyone with bipolar disorder gets violent or delusional or "crazy" as you would understand it to be.

And the ones who are....aren't...until they are. Do you really think that the FBI, or whichever bureaucracy ends up in charge of approving/denying firearms permits is going to put themselves on the hook for predicting what symptoms someone will manifest in the future? No, they'd cover their own asses by doing exactly what you initially stated - denying permits to anyone with a diagnosis. Which would make people (or their families) reluctant to seek diagnosis/treatment. So now you have expensive and time consuming hoops to jump through with benefits that may or may not be greater than the costs they pose and damage they have the potential to cause. Sure, you can fall back on the "if it stops even one person, it's worth it" argument, but how well has that worked for the TSA?


I don't want any government agency going through to find out who is getting mental health treatment and I would fight like hell against that ever happening(in a legal way) the thing is that getting mental health care can be so costly and there is such a stigma around it. I don't know what the answer is my own brother has to take his meds or go crazy. He's well I'm not sure but it's happened twice and now my parents have to monitor him every day on taking pills. Thankfully he has decent insurance to pay for those pills but I really fear the day my parents aren't around to look after him. No I don't think he'd hurt anyone just get committed without the meds. Maybe a halfway house would be a good place but really how many of those are there?
 
2012-12-17 12:55:38 AM  

BuckTurgidson: Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm?

Yes, I think exactly that. Also, no access to sharp objects or toxic household chemicals, because you will harm yourself and/or others with them in an episode over which neither you nor anyone else can have any possible control. In fact, you should be f*cking locked up.

How old are you, by the way?


I'm a freshman in college. I'm a healthy, happy, normal adult, except I'm a bit socially awkward.

You do realize that if you lock up everyone who has any type of mental disorder that could be considered "dangerous", they'll quickly be no one around.
 
2012-12-17 12:56:18 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: thisisarepeat:


I get that you don't want any regulations on firearms. Sorry, but that is a foregone conclusion at this point, and you will have to adapt.

Clearly, you choose not to have kids. I don't care. I dont care if you have kids or not...to see 20+ little kids killed and to only be able to think about your own unrestricted "right" to buy whatever guns you want points to the fact that you are an entitled, narcissistic sociopathic prick.

Eat a dick.


And the fact that all you can think about is hurting people that had absolutely nothing to do with this tragedy, just because they wish to retain their constitutional rights, makes you a grieving lunatic. And currently more than unfit for this society, mentally. It seems to me that its you that they should be chasing with a damn net.
 
2012-12-17 12:56:45 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Some kind of evaluation should be done. There are more restrictions on getting a driver's license.


When I renewed my drivers license they asked me to look in the little eye test gizmo stand for a picture and write a check for a few bucks. When I last bought a gun, they did the whole background check thing which took close to half an hour. I live in a state with pretty relaxed gun laws. There are flaming hoops of firey doom you have to jump through in places like New York, Chicago or DC.
 
2012-12-17 12:57:09 AM  

TheJoe03: Well a scientific (ie psychiatric) "opinion" holds a little more weight.


Yes, very true.
 
2012-12-17 12:58:11 AM  

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/ I mean, there was that whole Latin line and everything
 
2012-12-17 12:59:14 AM  

TheJoe03: The more you eat the more you fart: And I'm not some anti-gun person either. In fact, I am STRONGLY pro-gun. I just have common sense.

Same.

Rockstone: The problem is who should and shouldn't own a gun is mostly based on opinions.

Well a scientific (ie psychiatric) "opinion" holds a little more weight.


I'm not saying I have the answers, but I am saying that something MUST be done to keep guns out of the hands of people that are capable of walking into an elementary school and shooting 6 and 7 year old kids in the face.

If gun owners don't wake up, and come up with a solution, then the truly anti-gun crowd will fix the problem for them...by banning or placing excessive restrictions on firearms.

Continuing to hold on to the "NO RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVAR!1111!!!" point of view only serves to ensure without a doubt, that sooner or later, guns will either be banned outright or there will be another overly-restrictive awb-type legislation passed.
 
2012-12-17 12:59:43 AM  

doglover: Apos: The resemblance to Willie Nelson is quite unfortunate.

I don't know if I'm comin' or goin'; if it's them or me.
All I know is Willie Nelson only smoke killer weed.


Clutch reference? That's a favoritin'
 
2012-12-17 01:00:04 AM  

TheJoe03: Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.

It depends. In my opinion, perhaps we should have psychiatric evaluations for people like you because I've known people with Aspergers that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. We definitely can't move forward on this issue if it's looked at in a black and white way.


Well, but I've known people WITHOUT Asperger's that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. In fact, they had no diagnosis of any kind. So what's to be the marker here? People with mental diagnoses are preemptively determined to be unstable without evaluations? People without them preemptively presumed stable until they go off and kill a bunch of people? This is why it's a pointless line to draw.

Also, without a national standard, any talk of "psychiatric evaluations" whether for gun ownership or driver's licenses is equally pointless. If I can be batshiat insane and be denied a gun in California, that's fine...but it's useless if I can drive over to Arizona and get a gun because their test consists of "Are you nuts?"--no--"Fine, sign here."
 
2012-12-17 01:00:54 AM  

The more you eat the more you fart: Rockstone: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allowed own, possess, borrow, or even farking TOUCH a firearm without going to jail for...oh...5 years at least.

Hey, fark you!
I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.


Have a history of violence or oppositional/defiant behavior? If so, then no...I do not think you should be allowed to own firearms. Sorry.


Its called the Lautenberg amendment and its ALREADY ON THE FARKING BOOKS!

You farking tool.
 
2012-12-17 01:02:55 AM  

namatad: 1) $100,000 in ammo? REALLY? REALLY?
2) could we have a national "WACK JOBS come out of the closest" day?

One day a year, all the crazies come out and talk about the nutty shiat they plan on doing. The cops can round them up and lock them up.
And no, I am not talking about the GOP convention. That is every 4 years.


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'We don't need gun control. We need bullet control. Make each bullet cost $5k.'
 
2012-12-17 01:03:03 AM  

doglover: studebaker hoch: These copycat guys are aftershocks.

I'd say the school attack itself was an aftershock of the Mall Shooting the other day.


2 cops killed today in Kansas

A couple people shot tonight in a movie theater in San Antonio

How long do these aftershocks go on?
 
2012-12-17 01:04:26 AM  

Gyrfalcon: TheJoe03: Rockstone: I have Aspergers Syndrome. Do you think I shouldn't be allowed to use a firearm? Because one does not have any thing to do with the other.

It depends. In my opinion, perhaps we should have psychiatric evaluations for people like you because I've known people with Aspergers that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. We definitely can't move forward on this issue if it's looked at in a black and white way.

Well, but I've known people WITHOUT Asperger's that should be able to own a gun, and others that shouldn't be anywhere near one. In fact, they had no diagnosis of any kind. So what's to be the marker here? People with mental diagnoses are preemptively determined to be unstable without evaluations? People without them preemptively presumed stable until they go off and kill a bunch of people? This is why it's a pointless line to draw.

Also, without a national standard, any talk of "psychiatric evaluations" whether for gun ownership or driver's licenses is equally pointless. If I can be batshiat insane and be denied a gun in California, that's fine...but it's useless if I can drive over to Arizona and get a gun because their test consists of "Are you nuts?"--no--"Fine, sign here."


Right. A national requirement of a 30-minute consultation with an LPC or psychologist should do it.
 
2012-12-17 01:06:05 AM  

thisisarepeat: The more you eat the more you fart: Rockstone: The more you eat the more you fart: I'm just gonna go out on a limb here and say this: if you have ANY disorder on the "autism spectrum", ANY kind of mood-regulation disorder, or ANY type of organic psychosis, then you should NOT be allo