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(Huffington Post)   "We reached out to all 31 pro-gun rights senators in the new Congress to invite them on the program to share their views on the subject this morning," ... "We had no takers"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 1019
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2012-12-16 01:07:27 PM
One exception? Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) told Fox News Sunday that he believed more guns are the answer to violence in schools.

"I wish to god she had had an M4 in her office," he said of Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the shooting.


Louie, you are the Prince of Derptown.
 
2012-12-16 01:10:26 PM
You mean the same group who shiat all over Bob Dole last week, but didn't have the balls to cast their votes out loud and then refused to discuss it? Astonishing!
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-12-16 01:14:21 PM
Folks who go through life feeling they NEED to have guns 24/7 are cowards? Who would have guessed?
 
2012-12-16 01:16:35 PM
Obvious tag has no comment
 
2012-12-16 01:18:03 PM
What? They didn't volunteer to step into an obvious trap? The bastards!
 
2012-12-16 01:19:43 PM
We really need a pathetic tag.
 
2012-12-16 01:20:08 PM

Elvis_Bogart: What? They didn't volunteer to step into an obvious trap? The bastards!


Tards have some awareness of their surroundings.
 
2012-12-16 01:21:54 PM

jbc: Folks who go through life feeling they NEED to have guns 24/7 are cowards? Who would have guessed?


Took more guts to say no rather than use the kids bodies as a platform to advance you ready made agenda. Also did you know Senator Fienstien has a Coveted California CCW? Showing SHE is the one needing a gun 24/7 even with the taxpayer protection She recieves
 
2012-12-16 01:31:57 PM

NewportBarGuy: One exception? Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) told Fox News Sunday that he believed more guns are the answer to violence in schools.

"I wish to god she had had an M4 in her office," he said of Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the shooting.

Louie, you are the Prince of Derptown.


...that would be the M4 that is nearly impossible for civilians to obtain due to its burst-fire capability, and being categorized as a short-barreled rifle.

/pedant
 
2012-12-16 01:34:11 PM
A kindergarten teacher with an M4 would have prevented all of this.
 
2012-12-16 01:39:13 PM
Isn't "Met The Press" supposed to be a reasoned, fair, non-biased news program? Do you actually believe your audience is unable to detected the cynicism in the phrase "we reached out". Just say "we invited" and stop it with the cleverness.
 
2012-12-16 01:40:01 PM

Azlefty: jbc: Folks who go through life feeling they NEED to have guns 24/7 are cowards? Who would have guessed?

Took more guts to say no rather than use the kids bodies as a platform to advance you ready made agenda. Also did you know Senator Fienstien has a Coveted California CCW? Showing SHE is the one needing a gun 24/7 even with the taxpayer protection She recieves


She wants HER gun 24/7, but she doesn't believe that us peasants deserve the same right.
 
2012-12-16 01:40:26 PM

Sgt Otter: ...that would be the M4 that is nearly impossible for civilians to obtain due to its burst-fire capability, and being categorized as a short-barreled rifle.

/pedant


i47.tinypic.com

"Forget it, he's rolling."
 
2012-12-16 01:40:41 PM

jbc: cowards


Or thugs.
 
2012-12-16 01:48:10 PM

This About That: Isn't "Met The Press" supposed to be a reasoned, fair, non-biased news program? Do you actually believe your audience is unable to detected the cynicism in the phrase "we reached out". Just say "we invited" and stop it with the cleverness.


To be fair, I've noticed that phrase used more and more lately. I think it's more a stylistic thing than a partisan one. It is a bit jarring, though.
 
2012-12-16 01:54:13 PM

NewportBarGuy: One exception? Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas) told Fox News Sunday that he believed more guns are the answer to violence in schools.

"I wish to god she had had an M4 in her office," he said of Sandy Hook Elementary School principal Dawn Hochsprung, who was killed in the shooting.

Louie, you are the Prince of Derptown.


I realize absolutely nothing is going to change on gun laws. With 300 million of them already out there, it's just a little late. It's like trying to make possession of a used buttplug illegal; nobody really cares, and with one cop per 11,000 citizens, who the f**k, exactly, is going to even manage the inventory of confiscated guns? The cast of Storage Wars?

Gohmert knows this, too, and really, couldn't he take a single f**king day off his teacher-bashing crusade? Just one lousy day?
 
2012-12-16 02:01:07 PM
May they all get an enema from a Bushmaster as it unleashes a three second burst.
 
2012-12-16 02:03:20 PM

coco ebert: I think it's more a stylistic thing


Maybe, but it looks like widespread cynicism to me.
 
2012-12-16 02:12:43 PM

teto85: May they all get an enema from a Bushmaster as it unleashes a three second burst.


I wonder where people go to fire a full-auto weapon for practice. The only place I know in VA that allows it is the NRA shooting range. Then again, there aren't many people with the license required to have that kind of weapon anyway.
 
2012-12-16 02:13:44 PM

MisterTweak: I realize absolutely nothing is going to change on gun laws


Democrats remember what happened to them after they passed the assault weapons ban. They took a heavy beating. As long as the Republicans control the House, they know they can propose a new Assault Weapons Ban, but that it will never have enough votes to pass. So, I'm assuming that is what they will try. Hell, the Republicans might even find a way to let it pass by voting present or something and allow the Democrats to lose all the purple areas. They could play it like: "This is what the Democrat Party gave you America. They took your guns. Do you trust them to protect your children?"

I'm sure that it will be highly political and not at all focused on how to reduce these kinds of horrific events.
 
2012-12-16 02:20:37 PM

vygramul: teto85: May they all get an enema from a Bushmaster as it unleashes a three second burst.

I wonder where people go to fire a full-auto weapon for practice. The only place I know in VA that allows it is the NRA shooting range. Then again, there aren't many people with the license required to have that kind of weapon anyway.


You could join the Army and get paid to fire full auto weapons.
 
2012-12-16 02:25:02 PM

jehovahs witness protection: You could join the Army and get paid to fire full auto weapons.


The guy next to me firing the 240B tried to take out a 747 and wound up popping off a few rounds hear my face and setting the grass on fire in front of us with a tracer.

Yeah, I would not recommend that.
 
2012-12-16 02:27:35 PM

jehovahs witness protection: vygramul: teto85: May they all get an enema from a Bushmaster as it unleashes a three second burst.

I wonder where people go to fire a full-auto weapon for practice. The only place I know in VA that allows it is the NRA shooting range. Then again, there aren't many people with the license required to have that kind of weapon anyway.

You could join the Army and get paid to fire full auto weapons.


Don't even have to join the army. Working as a civilian offers such opportunities. The license to own one privately is prohibitively expensive - like $2k/yr.
 
2012-12-16 02:28:30 PM

NewportBarGuy: MisterTweak: I realize absolutely nothing is going to change on gun laws

Democrats remember what happened to them after they passed the assault weapons ban. They took a heavy beating. As long as the Republicans control the House, they know they can propose a new Assault Weapons Ban, but that it will never have enough votes to pass. So, I'm assuming that is what they will try. Hell, the Republicans might even find a way to let it pass by voting present or something and allow the Democrats to lose all the purple areas. They could play it like: "This is what the Democrat Party gave you America. They took your guns. Do you trust them to protect your children?"

I'm sure that it will be highly political and not at all focused on how to reduce these kinds of horrific events.


I kinda hate it that you're absolutely correct. 535 elected representatives, every single one of them with the ethics of a three-card monte dealer.
 
2012-12-16 02:47:07 PM
Really? None of them wanted to spend their Sunday morning getting triple-teamed and shouted down by Gregory, Feinstein and Bloomberg?

That IS strange...
 
2012-12-16 02:55:57 PM

BravadoGT: Really? None of them wanted to spend their Sunday morning getting triple-teamed and shouted down by Gregory, Feinstein and Bloomberg?

That IS strange...


Not to mention defending the indefensible.
 
2012-12-16 02:59:19 PM

BravadoGT: Really? None of them wanted to spend their Sunday morning getting triple-teamed and shouted down by Gregory, Feinstein and Bloomberg?

That IS strange...


Only a pussy backs down from such a fear. If they hold strong to their convictions, and have a convincing argument, they should be prepared to debate their side on any given Sunday.

Let me guess... mourning period, right? Don't want to bring up the victims whilst their bodies are still fresh and bloody. Wait until they are buried and forgotten. Then we can have a fruitless screaming match that will accomplish nothing.

They're still a gigantic pack of pussies.
 
2012-12-16 03:09:39 PM

This About That: Isn't "Met The Press" supposed to be a reasoned, fair, non-biased news program? Do you actually believe your audience is unable to detected the cynicism in the phrase "we reached out". Just say "we invited" and stop it with the cleverness.


For all intensive purposes those mean the same thing. Your being pendantic.
 
2012-12-16 03:11:10 PM
I've never seen the GOP so reluctant to engage in a gun rights debate. I don't think anything could come of this, but it's interesting to see that the GOP has (for the most part) enough sense to stay away from a fight involving 20 dead kindergartners.
 
2012-12-16 03:27:23 PM

One Bad Apple: Your being pendantic.


It's "you're".
 
2012-12-16 03:36:42 PM

One Bad Apple: This About That: Isn't "Met The Press" supposed to be a reasoned, fair, non-biased news program? Do you actually believe your audience is unable to detected the cynicism in the phrase "we reached out". Just say "we invited" and stop it with the cleverness.

For all intensive purposes those mean the same thing. Your being pendantic.


I think I see what you did there.
 
2012-12-16 03:40:38 PM

Elvis_Bogart: What? They didn't volunteer to step into an obvious trap? The bastards!


The "obvious trap" being "defending their positions in a public forum"?

Dear god, the horroorrrrrr
 
2012-12-16 03:45:21 PM
Clearly, this is not the time to have a conversation about guns. It's too soon. Wait until this all blows over then we can discuss it rationally without emotion.
 
2012-12-16 03:54:27 PM

BravadoGT: None of them wanted to spend their Sunday morning getting triple-teamed and shouted down by Gregory, Feinstein and Bloomberg?


U.S. Senators get paid to research, defend and legislate controversial policy positions. They are salaried and they are often called upon to be on the Sunday political talk shows. They better goddamn show up of asked on any given Sunday, pussyass weaklings. Its the people who don't show up to defend themselves who will take every opportunity to grandstand by talking bravado and wrapping themselves in the flag. I know any number of authentic actual true believing citizens on that ideological side who would happily show up to take on Feinstein and Bloomberg any day. They are the ones that ought to be the most angry at this obvious cowardice.
 
2012-12-16 03:54:45 PM

Elvis_Bogart: What? They didn't volunteer to step into an obvious trap? The bastards!


The GOP and NRA have never been afraid to engage in a gun control debate because until now, they've always held the high ground. The fact that they are sitting this round out is very telling.
 
2012-12-16 03:56:49 PM

One Bad Apple: Your being pendantic.


i52.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-16 04:00:00 PM

propasaurus: Clearly, this is not the time to have a conversation about guns. It's too soon. Wait until this all blows over then we can discuss it rationally without emotion.


No.
 
2012-12-16 04:01:33 PM

propasaurus: Clearly, this is not the time to have a conversation about guns. It's too soon. Wait until this all blows over then we can discuss it rationally without emotion.


dems are all about appealing to emotion instead of logic, so that won't work.
 
2012-12-16 04:02:31 PM
They're still waiting on the talking points from the NRA.

Apparently, this requires something more than the usual retarded derp from those assholes.
 
2012-12-16 04:06:40 PM
Oh, look. Yet another gun thread filled with people who know little to nothing about guns telling the rest of us what we can and can't do with our legal, constitutionally protected firearms.
 
2012-12-16 04:06:56 PM

Lionel Mandrake: They're still waiting on the talking points from the NRA.

Apparently, this requires something more than the usual retarded derp from those assholes.


They're still trying to feel things out. Huckabee's "If we had God in school this wouldn't have happened" didn't work, and no sane parent wants armed teachers watching over their kindergartners.
 
2012-12-16 04:08:11 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Oh, look. Yet another gun thread filled with people who know little to nothing about guns telling the rest of us what we can and can't do with our legal, constitutionally protected firearms.


Yeah, it really sucks when people who don't own guns tell people who do own guns not to shoot a bunch of kindergartners.
 
2012-12-16 04:10:53 PM
"We reached out to all 31 pro-gun rights senators in the new Congress to invite them on the program to share their views on the subject this morning," he said. "We had no takers."

can you blame them? if they step up and push a pro-gun agenda right now they'd get slaughtered. these guys aren't stupid...they know when/where and how to pick their venues. in terms of practical strategy, standing up in front of a crowd and pushing a pro gun agenda is only going to hurt their cause and they know it.

If I had to guess, I'd say they're going to be real quiet for a while. they might offer some meaningless concessions, pretend apologies and/or do some sort of emotional gesture or whatnot. they could even go as far as to eventually offer some kind of toothless legislation meant to 'address the concerns' of various voter groups. But that's about as far as it'll go.
 
2012-12-16 04:12:02 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: propasaurus: Clearly, this is not the time to have a conversation about guns. It's too soon. Wait until this all blows over then we can discuss it rationally without emotion.

dems are all about appealing to emotion instead of logic, so that won't work.


lol
 
2012-12-16 04:13:26 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: propasaurus: Clearly, this is not the time to have a conversation about guns. It's too soon. Wait until this all blows over then we can discuss it rationally without emotion.

dems are all about appealing to emotion instead of logic, so that won't work.


so you now want to contend that the GOP is driven by cold, remorseless/soulless logic and that a complete lack of empathy is a GOP virtue?
 
2012-12-16 04:14:52 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Oh, look. Yet another gun thread filled with people who know little to nothing about guns telling the rest of us what we can and can't do with our legal, constitutionally protected firearms.


The nerve of some people! Expressing opinions while unarmed!
 
2012-12-16 04:20:07 PM

Pokey.Clyde: Oh, look. Yet another gun thread filled with people who know little to nothing about guns telling the rest of us what we can and can't do with our legal, constitutionally protected firearms.


I don't know enough about guns to really even suggest what to limit, restrict, or change.

Where would you start? Would you change it at all? How will we measure success? Only one mass shooting a year?
 
2012-12-16 04:35:05 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't go on.

I've seen nothing but well-tempered and reasonable debate on the subject this week.
 
2012-12-16 04:44:01 PM

NewportBarGuy: They're still a gigantic pack of pussies.


Nearly all neocons are pussies when the rubber meets the road. Remember the immutable rule of life - the louder the guy is, the bigger the sissy he is when it's time back up his BS.

I'm not really speaking about this specific incident (there could have been logistical reasons why no one showed up, for all I know). But in general, a Republican will do his finest John Wayne impersonation and in the next breath cry that he's persecuted by some poorly-defined dark forces aligned against him. As you know, a Republican is typically incapable of actually owning his mistakes like the rest of us do.

But yeah, I would like to see dicks like Gohmert demonstrate how an armed and terrified elementary school teacher would have prevented or at least mitigated the tragedy. Go ahead, big man, demonstrate how badass everyone in the world could be if they were only more in line with your cheap rhetoric. When you're done, don't forget to call a mean ole' lib for picking on you. Pussy.

/why yes, yes I am angry today
 
2012-12-16 04:46:15 PM

vygramul: jehovahs witness protection: vygramul: teto85: May they all get an enema from a Bushmaster as it unleashes a three second burst.

I wonder where people go to fire a full-auto weapon for practice. The only place I know in VA that allows it is the NRA shooting range. Then again, there aren't many people with the license required to have that kind of weapon anyway.

You could join the Army and get paid to fire full auto weapons.

Don't even have to join the army. Working as a civilian offers such opportunities. The license to own one privately is prohibitively expensive - like $2k/yr.


Actually, it costs $200 once, not annually. That being said, you can only own the ones that are legal for civilians to own under any circumstances, which rules out any full-auto gun manufactured after May 19, 1986.
 
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