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(Kennebec Journal)   Real Christmas tree vs. a fake one. For those that pick fake to be environmentally friendly, you're barking up the wrong tree   (kjonline.com) divider line 140
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2012-12-16 10:12:26 AM
I like a real one but the fake ones are easier to decorate.

They hold the heavier ornaments more easily and if you don't like the way an ornament is hanging, you just bend the branch.
 
2012-12-16 10:15:39 AM
I dealt with real Xmas trees for 20 years. Trust me, imitation trees are the way to go.
 
2012-12-16 10:17:48 AM

FreeLawyer: Fake. I am allergic to real.

/ it took a long time to realize real wasn't worth the problems.
// Too bad. I love real trees.


This is my tale of woe as well. I finally got tired of having bronchitis by New Years.
 
2012-12-16 10:18:21 AM
more than 1.2 million Christmas trees are growing quietly

Yes, thanks.
 
2012-12-16 10:19:26 AM
Fake. I like real ones, and my family always got real ones up until a few years ago when they started spraying them with something that made my allergies go berserk. My eyes swelled completely shut and burned like hell.
 
2012-12-16 10:20:49 AM
Fake, miniature, silver, prelit, no ornaments. With a larger family, especially ones with young children, picking out, setting up, and decorating a real tree helps to observe Christmas.
 
2012-12-16 10:22:00 AM

fightingnewfoundlander: more than 1.2 million Christmas trees are growing quietly

Yes, thanks.


www.escobarshighlandfarm.com
Soon
 
2012-12-16 10:23:45 AM
Real trees are also more environmentally sound that artificial ones, said Jean English, editor of the Maine Organic Farmer & Gardener newspaper, who also holds master's and doctorate degrees in plant and soil sciences.

Someone who has spent money on their master's and doctorate degree in plant and soil sciences is in favor of real trees? That's a shocker.

"We like getting out and cutting your own. It just seems more real," said Ellis.

More real than...uh...reality?

"Never. No. Never ever, ever," she said. "I'm anti-artificial Christmas tree. They ruin the Christmas spirit."

Everyone in this article is clinically insane.
 
2012-12-16 10:25:32 AM
They're also green in an environmental sense.
Said teh Maine Christmas Tree Trade Group -

My plastic tree was manufactured, transported displayed, bought, used, stored, and used and stored and used and stored and used and stored, and used and stored and used and stored and used,and stored, and used and stored and used and stored and used.
Did not need to be cut every year, transported and distributed every year dragged home every year didn't need to go the the lot every year, get wrapped every year.
My miserable plastic tree will never rise to be considered a hair-loomic sort of thing. It has never been beautiful only useful. Really, when you think of it, how much of the tree can you see if you've decorated it? Years from now it can become part of the trash stream - ONCE -
cue the "I'm okay with this" jpeg
 
2012-12-16 10:28:44 AM
Fake all the way for my family. My parents bought a 7ft fake tree about 25 years ago and still use it each year. It doesn't look as good as newer trees, and is starting to look a bit sparse, but once all the lights and ornaments are on it, it looks great. They keep saying they might buy a new one, but I don't think they will until a branch falls off or something.

I bought my own fake tree this year. Spent a pretty penny to get one that looks the way I want it to look, but I figure if it lasts me 20+ years, I win.

My parents occasionally get a real tree to put out on the back patio. They'll pick up a little reject tree from a seller and put some lights on it.
 
2012-12-16 10:29:03 AM

MayoBoy: Ruined the oriental rug

Asian American

rug, please.
 
2012-12-16 10:29:18 AM

Marcintosh: how much of the tree can you see if you've decorated it?


My mother buys real trees and gets them flocked or whatever the fark it's called. I though it was fake when I first saw it. I don't get it. And the smell everyone loves? Yeah, they make candles and air fresheners that smell exactly the same.
 
2012-12-16 10:32:18 AM
Fake trees don't cause me to have an asthma attack, so I prefer those.
 
2012-12-16 10:36:31 AM
I'm watching my decorated real tree not take up any water, so I'm getting a real kick....from the anticipation of the huge bonfire that will be my living room in a week or so.
 
2012-12-16 10:43:09 AM
Not friendly to environment but friendly to the living tree. That tree has been growing for over ten years just so you can cut it down, decorate it's carcass and pretend you have a functional family for a couple weeks.
 
2012-12-16 10:47:27 AM
There's other work, too. Twice a year, in spring and late summer, Bradbury applies more than a ton of fertilizer to the tree bases. He also applies herbicide around young trees because grass can overwhelm and kill them. In May, he typically sprays for bugs, particularly the balsam twig aphid. He also mows between the rows about 10 times a year during the growing months.

Yeah, both are bad for the environment. One is probably only marginally better than the other.
 
2012-12-16 10:50:52 AM
I'm sure the fake tree I got 15 years ago for $1.50 at a thrift store is the cause of global warming.
 
2012-12-16 10:51:46 AM
Having Christmas with a fake tree is like having sex with a blow up doll.
 
2012-12-16 10:56:34 AM
Last 2 years we bought a live tree.
And by live I mean with root ball intact, balled and burlaped, and then planted them in the yard after Christmas.

Where should I line up for my smugness award?

/fyi b&b trees are a lot farking heavier than you think
 
2012-12-16 10:58:01 AM
One friend has an artificial tree. He never takes it down, just shuts off the lights. We have an even simpler approach: no Xmas and no tree!
 
2012-12-16 11:01:24 AM

arentevenwords: /fyi b&b trees are a lot farking heavier than you think


Not a bad idea. Bet the cats aren't going to knock it down by climbing it, either.
 
2012-12-16 11:01:46 AM
I've been using the same artificial tree for 5 years now instead of buying a new real one each year.
 
2012-12-16 11:01:50 AM

The Southern Dandy: Having Christmas with a fake tree is like having sex with a blow up doll.


And Christmas it's self isn't a blowup doll?

Pffft

commercial, merchandised, credit carded holiday - thinking about it, I would submit that Memorial Day and the Fourth of July are about the least merchandised holiday in the US.
We have parties, parades and some furniture sales. There aren't special sale days for the Fourth either and the parades are not really merchandising for any one thing.
 
2012-12-16 11:02:10 AM

Jim_Callahan: //farking ignorant-ass hippies have ruined environmentalism for the actual, knowledgeable conservationists. We really need to look into resurrecting Theodore Roosevelt.


Amen to that.

See, the reason a lot of people didn't do fake trees when we were kids or before was, simply put, fake trees looked fake. Now that they're getting more realistic looking trees, made to be recycled, it's not such a bad thing.

\totally remember how lame my grandmother's old tree looked, as it was about twenty when I was born in the mid-70s
\\still have her "new" tree
 
2012-12-16 11:04:20 AM
I think the real lesson to be learned is that essentially people like to argue-- especially internet people. Is there a more inane topic than real vs. artificial Christmas trees? Reading these comments is like bizzaro world to me. Do you people really care that much or do you just want to say something? We've already diverged into religion and how holiday traditions are stupid. Wow, it just blows my mind. For the record, we have a live tree. My boys like to cut it down, the cat likes to climb it, the dog likes to drink the water, I like the smell and my wife likes the fact that it forces me to take down the decorations before February. My parents have artificial. It's easy, it looks good. It always fits their space. It leaves no mess and they don't have to worry about watering it. It's all good.
 
2012-12-16 11:18:35 AM

senoy: Is there a more inane topic than real vs. artificial Christmas trees?


Sure. It's all good and we all realize that. But read the thread again. This isn't about "fake is better than real", that's just up to preference, and nobody's making any sort of big deal about that. (If this is an argument, it's the tamest argument Fark has ever seen.) The near-unanimous point expressed by this thread, utterly refuting TFA, and regardless of actual preference, is that environmentalism has almost nothing to do with why people are choosing how they do.
 
2012-12-16 11:20:02 AM
Real baby. FOR LIFE!!

My tree is an organic object which provides a farmer a job, gives money to the highschool band selling them, and smells great in my home.

I drta but I'm assuming the pollution runoff from making plastic trees that will one day help support that giant garbage island of floating plastic in the Pacific makes fake trees not that great.
 
2012-12-16 11:20:04 AM

Gortex: TFA was actually an interesting read. Where I'm from, (Nova Scotia), shipping Xmas trees to the US is a fairly big industry.


Thanks again for Boston's big tree. You guys rule.
 
2012-12-16 11:23:27 AM

Fear the Clam: Gortex: TFA was actually an interesting read. Where I'm from, (Nova Scotia), shipping Xmas trees to the US is a fairly big industry.

Thanks again for Boston's big tree. You guys rule.


Least we can do for you guys (Boston) helping us dig out. We'll never forget.
 
2012-12-16 11:25:12 AM
If someone would deliver and later pick back up a live tree- I would happily rent one for Christmas.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:27 AM

Vangor: With a larger family, especially ones with young children, picking out, setting up, and decorating a real tree helps to observe Christmas.


We have no problem seeing Christmas without your traditions, druid.
 
2012-12-16 11:27:53 AM

megalynn44: If someone would deliver and later pick back up a live tree- I would happily rent one for Christmas.

They do that here. A local nursery sells bundled root trees that they bring to your home and set up and after Christmas, the city comes and picks them up and plants them in local parks.
 
2012-12-16 11:29:04 AM

megalynn44: If someone would deliver and later pick back up a live tree- I would happily rent one for Christmas.


One downside to an actual live tree (to be re-planted) is the limited amount of time they can be kept indoors. Too long and they start to come out of dormancy because of the temperature, and then die when placed back outside. That sort of negates the whole point, might as well have cut if down to start with. A lot of people like to keep the tree for much of the month and that's not possible with a whole tree. 5, maybe 7 days max.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:00 AM

ramblinwreck: I don't know a single person that buys one to be "green." I have a fake one because I remember from my youth how much of a pain in the ass real ones were.


I've had the same one for 13 years now, and it still looks like a good fake tree. Easy to deal with, easy to decorate, easy to disassemble & store.
 
2012-12-16 11:36:25 AM
I have a 2 foot tall plastic tree with fiber optic lights and Star Wars ornaments on my desk. But I did have to drag a real tree to my mom's house. WTF people deal with real trees, I'll never know.
 
2012-12-16 11:40:50 AM

aimtastic: My parents used the same fake tree my entire life until I was about 35, and they bought it three years before I was born.

Turns out if you don't buy the cheapest fake tree you can find, it might last more than a small handful of years.


Honestly there is a tremendous difference betweenthe quality of your parents' ancient fake tree and the many many thousands of fake trees that are manufactured in China and shipped to the US every year.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:08 AM

megalynn44: If someone would deliver and later pick back up a live tree- I would happily rent one for Christmas.


This is a genius idea.
 
2012-12-16 11:44:55 AM
They don't mention the fossil fuels used driving millions of tons of trees around that will be discarded and burned few weeks later. As opposed to getting a box from the attic. Stupid advertisement for a local tree farm, with really weak attempt at an argument that mass production and subsequent burning of real trees is somehow better.
 
2012-12-16 11:46:16 AM
Fake. Real ones are a huge pain in the ass, and it always bugged me that I have a huge piece of tinder in my house. Fake one has lasted for ten years now, and pretty much looks the same as when I got it.
 
2012-12-16 11:57:32 AM
www.subspacecommunique.com
/no need for words...
 
2012-12-16 11:59:18 AM

GORDON: There are more trees now in the USA than there were 100 years ago.

GLOBAL WARMING.


0/10. I am disappoint.
 
2012-12-16 12:14:15 PM

BarkingUnicorn: ramblinwreck: I don't know a single person that buys one to be "green." I have a fake one because I remember from my youth how much of a pain in the ass real ones were.
You're not supposed to sit on them, dummy.


he may have had the same tradition in his family that we had--in order to be environmentally friendly, we had to cut up the tree after Christmas, compost it, and use it as toilet paper. Well, that worked for a few years, until we got smart and talked Mom into getting a fake tree.

Plus after we lost my little brother to a rattler in a the compost pile, Mom just wasn't as gung-ho about the whole thing.
 
2012-12-16 12:19:47 PM
My 16" ceramic tree. It's probably 50 years old (it was in my grandparent's house growing up) and only uses a single light bulb. And you can put gift cards under it.

/going elsewhere for xmas events
 
2012-12-16 12:22:43 PM

KarmicDisaster: we use one of those Charlie Brown trees.


real or fake?
 
2012-12-16 12:49:39 PM

GORDON: There are more trees now in the USA than there were 100 years ago.

GLOBAL WARMING.


No, Smokey Bear...and not in a good way.
 
2012-12-16 01:20:31 PM

megalynn44: If someone would deliver and later pick back up a live tree- I would happily rent one for Christmas.


Link
 
2012-12-16 01:20:39 PM
I'd rather have a real tree but my wife has allergies. Also the tree people want more $$$ every year and always seem pretty shady.
 
2012-12-16 01:23:44 PM
i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-16 01:25:06 PM
The choice is a lot easier when you have a 26-acre Tree Farm of mixed conifers. We could give away 100 trees a year and not keep up with the thinning that needs to be done.
 
2012-12-16 01:31:58 PM

Gough: GORDON: There are more trees now in the USA than there were 100 years ago.
GLOBAL WARMING.
No, Smokey Bear...and not in a good way.


Except the trees used to look like this:

www.scientificamerican.com

and now they look like this:

theharrisonstudio.net
 
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