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(SFGate)   Los Lobos have been making the most amazing American music you've never heard of for 40 years   (sfgate.com) divider line 55
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2012-12-16 06:59:14 AM  
I was listening to Los Lobos before you knew they existed, subby.
 
2012-12-16 07:59:13 AM  
I was playing Los Lobos on vinyl in college, Sparky. On the radio. Actually spinning discs as it were. When I was running the Iron Horse's kitchen I was a huge fanboy and thrilled to be cooking for them. Seen them over the years dozens of times, and they are pretty much the shizzle. They paved the way for a lot of great bands out the LA scene. They've been featured on soundtracks on soundtracks for years--even beyond La Bamba or Bull Durham. Considering the sizes of the shows that they STILL do, I think that folks might have heard of them...
 
2012-12-16 09:13:23 AM  
Kiko is one of the best albums ever made by anyone anywhere.
 
2012-12-16 09:52:38 AM  
You're right, subby. I've only been listening to them for about 20 - 25 years.
 
2012-12-16 09:55:51 AM  
Los Lobos isn't nearly obscure enough to be hip

/saw them play at the Bill Graham memorial. Well, heard them before I actually saw them. They were covering the song Bertha, and doing it so well I thought it was the Grateful Dead at first

/csb
//these guys rock
 
2012-12-16 10:01:55 AM  
I like that one song they did a while back. Link
 
2012-12-16 10:04:08 AM  
Saw 'em play an in-store record shop set on Haight St about 15 years ago. They're awesome.
 
2012-12-16 10:05:27 AM  

b0rscht: Kiko is one of the best albums ever made by anyone anywhere.


You are correct, sir.
 
2012-12-16 10:05:44 AM  
And Steve Berlin of Los Lobos is still making incredible music with Diamond Rugs (far right w/the beard)

cdn.ticketfly.com
 
2012-12-16 10:06:08 AM  
(also, their version of La Bamba went to number one in about a dozen countries, including the US, UK, Italy, Spain, France, Ireland...)
 
2012-12-16 10:07:30 AM  
(oh, and they play on "Graceland", an album that went quintuple platinum)

/ not obscure
// very very not obscure
 
2012-12-16 10:09:27 AM  
They were never the same after they lost Lou Diamond Phillips in that plane crash that was eerily predicted in the song "American Pie".
 
2012-12-16 10:12:06 AM  
They decided to carry on without Lou Diamond Phillips?

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2012-12-16 10:12:08 AM  
I like this one Link
 
2012-12-16 10:13:58 AM  
sorry about 15 sec advertisement, don't know how to get around it
 
2012-12-16 10:14:54 AM  
Los Lobos debuted by playing at my quinceanera.  I was beautiful and wore tafetta.  The food was delicious and we danced until the sun came up.
 
(Not really, I just wanted to have the best Los Lobos story.)
 
2012-12-16 10:15:33 AM  
Fun Fact: David Hidalgos (lead guitarist) son is the current drummer for Social Distortion.
 
2012-12-16 10:39:21 AM  
Flew to Ontario, CA with them once. How long ago? It was on Braniff.

/Cool bunch - great way to kill 2 1/2 hour flight...
 
2012-12-16 10:46:57 AM  
I'm a 'middle period' fan -

'This Time'
'Good Morning, Aztlan' and
'The Ride'.

Their greatest hits - Just Another Band From L.A.' is good, too, if only for their smokin' version of 'Rosalie'
 
2012-12-16 10:50:54 AM  

douchebag/hater: Their greatest hits - Just Another Band From L.A.


upload.wikimedia.org
Just Another Band from LA

upload.wikimedia.org
Just Another Band from East LA
 
2012-12-16 11:05:26 AM  
Subby tries to do something good and gets burned.
 
2012-12-16 11:23:13 AM  

Dear Jerk: Subby tries to do something good and gets burned.


Submitter done good. I'd not listened to any Los Lobos before today. I've just spent the last 30 minutes listening to their music, and DAYUM they rock!

/Party on, Subby
//Yeah, I'm a young'un. 
///Getting off your lawn, and going back to Grooveshark.
 
2012-12-16 11:23:18 AM  

b0rscht: Kiko is one of the best albums ever made by anyone anywhere.



I believe you missed this classic...
 
2012-12-16 11:23:23 AM  

gwowen: (oh, and they play on "Graceland", an album that went quintuple platinum)



more like, "Paul Simon invited them over to jam in teh studio, kept the song, claimed he wrote it."

Berlin says that at the time they were doing a favor for their label president by agreeing to work with the musician, who was coming off a down period in his career while they were enjoying Grammy and sales success. But the sessions with Simon were uncomfortable and the band were ready to move on after the first day, only to have their label chief pleading with them to play it out.

Berlin recalls, "Rather than engage us, Paul would just stare at us like we were animals in a zoo or something. I'm telling you, the guy is a weird dude - there's no two ways about it." He says they felt as though Simon wasn't really interested in playing with them, as he sat in the control room and asked them to jam without contributing anything.

After a few days of uncomfortable interaction, Berlin says that David Hidalgo began playing what would become 'The Myth of Fingerprints,' a track they were preparing for their next record. He explains, "We'd been waiting around for two days for Paul to come up with something, but he had nothing. So to have something to do, we just started playing what we thought was our song, when Paul suddenly says, 'Hey that's cool. What is that?' and we said, 'Oh, it's a song we've been working on.'"

Berlin says Simon asked if they could work on it, and the band agreed thinking that it would help get the sessions over quicker. However, Los Lobos were definitely surprised when Simon's album came out six months later with credits that read "Words and Music by Paul Simon."

Berlin says attempts to find out why they weren't credited were met with silence until Simon contacted the band and said, "Sue me. See what happens." The musician says, "We should have sued him, frankly. I would have loved to have seen what would have happened. But I guess in a weird way, we just naively started fooling around with a song - a song we didn't have a pre-existing recording of - and I don't know if we could have proven in a court of law, at the end of the day, that he stole it."

Berlin says that one indicator of Simon's intentions was that the singer claimed to have written a lot of the African material on the 'Graceland' album, but later had to give the African records credit because there were recordings that actually did exist. But in the end, Steve says the band never received a penny for their work on the 'Graceland' record. He concludes, "Everybody I know who has ever worked with Paul Simon says he's the biggest jerk in the world. Yeah - he's a f-ing idiot."
 
2012-12-16 11:26:06 AM  
oh, and I've sang with Los Lobos at a concert in Tucson. not backstage, not at soundcheck, not at a party, but an actual honest to god, paying customers, 2000 people there concert.

and, dear reader, that is God's truth.
 
2012-12-16 11:32:39 AM  

Dear Jerk: Subby tries to do something good and gets burned.


Nah. Great band for older musicians on FARK to recall, and good intro for the younger ones.
 
2012-12-16 11:42:47 AM  

GonzoNihilist: Fun Fact: David Hidalgos (lead guitarist) son is the current drummer for Social Distortion.


Almost. His son David Hidalgo Jr. is the current drummer for Social D.

/music pedant
//loves Los Lobos
///love Social D as well
 
2012-12-16 11:47:31 AM  
They're just hard working musicians who are making the songs Americans don't want to hear.
 
2012-12-16 11:51:10 AM  
One of my favorite bands - they have been for almost 30 years,

/ Old
 
2012-12-16 11:52:52 AM  

rickythepenguin: oh, and I've sang with Los Lobos at a concert in Tucson. not backstage, not at soundcheck, not at a party, but an actual honest to god, paying customers, 2000 people there concert.

and, dear reader, that is God's truth.


Me too.

Of course I was in the midst of a few thousand other fans at the time, but I was singing.
 
2012-12-16 11:54:54 AM  
I liked them a lot back in the 80's. Bought some albums on iTunes recently and found it to be more bland and generic than I remembered.

These days when I need a Mex-Punk hybrid I stick with Mariachi El Bronx.
 
2012-12-16 12:19:18 PM  

Radak: I was listening to Los Lobos before you knew they existed, subby.


FTFY
 
2012-12-16 12:29:28 PM  
Big fan ever since 1st album, saw them at the Granada & they said "we have no set list, we're going to play whatever we want and if you want to hear a particular song tell us and we'll play it. And they did for 2 hours, they were farking incredible, came out and met fans after. Someone bootlegged it and put it on BTtree if anyone likes live Los Lobos.
 
2012-12-16 12:34:55 PM  
That tune "How Far is Heaven" by them is really good
 
2012-12-16 01:26:24 PM  

jaytkay: Of course I was in the midst of a few thousand other fans at the time, but I was singing.



ha. i guess i could have made it clearer; i sang witht he band, as in, "i was a performing musician witht he band".
 
2012-12-16 01:28:57 PM  
www.remezcla.com
 
2012-12-16 01:42:17 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: Dear Jerk: Subby tries to do something good and gets burned.

Submitter done good. I'd not listened to any Los Lobos before today. I've just spent the last 30 minutes listening to their music, and DAYUM they rock!

/Party on, Subby
//Yeah, I'm a young'un. 
///Getting off your lawn, and going back to Grooveshark.


You should also check out the Texas Tornados.
 
2012-12-16 01:56:00 PM  

rickythepenguin: gwowen: (oh, and they play on "Graceland", an album that went quintuple platinum)


more like, "Paul Simon invited them over to jam in teh studio, kept the song, claimed he wrote it."

Berlin says that at the time they were doing a favor for their label president by agreeing to work with the musician, who was coming off a down period in his career while they were enjoying Grammy and sales success. But the sessions with Simon were uncomfortable and the band were ready to move on after the first day, only to have their label chief pleading with them to play it out.

Berlin recalls, "Rather than engage us, Paul would just stare at us like we were animals in a zoo or something. I'm telling you, the guy is a weird dude - there's no two ways about it." He says they felt as though Simon wasn't really interested in playing with them, as he sat in the control room and asked them to jam without contributing anything.

After a few days of uncomfortable interaction, Berlin says that David Hidalgo began playing what would become 'The Myth of Fingerprints,' a track they were preparing for their next record. He explains, "We'd been waiting around for two days for Paul to come up with something, but he had nothing. So to have something to do, we just started playing what we thought was our song, when Paul suddenly says, 'Hey that's cool. What is that?' and we said, 'Oh, it's a song we've been working on.'"

Berlin says Simon asked if they could work on it, and the band agreed thinking that it would help get the sessions over quicker. However, Los Lobos were definitely surprised when Simon's album came out six months later with credits that read "Words and Music by Paul Simon."

Berlin says attempts to find out why they weren't credited were met with silence until Simon contacted the band and said, "Sue me. See what happens." The musician says, "We should have sued him, frankly. I would have loved to have seen what would have happened. But I guess in a weird way, we just naively sta ...


From my days at the Iron Horse, that is pretty much the assessment that I got with anyone who ever worked with the guy. Just an amazing ego, and a jackass who craps on other musicians. Sadly, it happens a lot.
 
2012-12-16 02:45:32 PM  

hubiestubert: hat I got with anyone who ever worked with the guy. Just an amazing ego, and a jackass who craps on other musicians. Sadly, it happens a lot.



aside from some takeaways from the Graceland sessions, the Myth Of Fingerprints incident, there is another one; he released (Simon) an album 2-3 years ago and there was a collaboration credtied solely to Simon. In either MOJO or Uncut (english music mags), there was an interview where the musician that co-wrote that song made some grumbles about the lack of being credited.

int he interview, the question was asked along the lines of, "so and so says he helped write ____ with you in New York, but isn't listed ont eh album. Why is that?"

and simon gave this non-response response on the order of "well, i don't really recall that much but i guess we remember that process differently, i think he's mistaken. next question."

fool me once, fool me thrice, etc.
 
2012-12-16 02:49:10 PM  

T.M.S.: I liked them a lot back in the 80's. Bought some albums on iTunes recently and found it to be more bland and generic than I remembered.

These days when I need a Mex-Punk hybrid I stick with Mariachi El Bronx.


You're listening to them through the prism of 30 years of imitators and bands that were influenced by them taking it up a notch.

You could probably say the same thing about any number of artists over the years, guys like The Stooges, The Ramones, and Nirvana.
 
2012-12-16 04:06:47 PM  
max_pooper
You should also check out the Texas Tornados.

Texas Tornadoes/Doug Sahm are first rate.
 
2012-12-16 04:35:27 PM  
 
2012-12-16 05:08:32 PM  

rickythepenguin: fool me once, fool me thrice, etc.


It's called a motherfarking contract. Anyone who seriously thinks a multibillion selling musician is their buddy whom they can trust is a moron. Also there might be a reason this shiat gets printed in the back of guitar world and not in a lawsuit.

//myth of fingerprints sucks
 
2012-12-16 05:09:35 PM  

MFAWG: You're listening to them through the prism of 30 years of imitators and bands that were influenced by them taking it up a notch.


And yet the Beatles are still good. Some shiat just doesn't hold up.
 
2012-12-16 06:47:50 PM  
Saw 'em in a small club in LA when they were still doing covers
Farmer John, etc.
I think the progenitors of Chicano rock and roll would have to be Thee Midniters, though
 
2012-12-16 07:27:55 PM  
Speak for yourself, Subby.
/was at their record release show for "Tin Can Trust"
 
2012-12-16 07:45:14 PM  
Just saw them with Neil Young & Crazy Horse a few weeks back. Killer show top to bottom.
 
2012-12-16 11:41:48 PM  
But first, we must polka!
 
2012-12-16 11:52:49 PM  

rickythepenguin: oh, and I've sang with Los Lobos at a concert in Tucson. not backstage, not at soundcheck, not at a party, but an actual honest to god, paying customers, 2000 people there concert.

and, dear reader, that is God's truth.


You forgot your CSB!
/CSB
 
2012-12-17 09:22:08 AM  
Will their music kick my ass, kick my face, and kick my balls into outer space?
 
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