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(Japan Times)   Rare photos of Best Korea shows life beyond the 38th parallel, no Unicorns   (japantimes.co.jp) divider line 24
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2012-12-16 03:52:20 PM
5 votes:

Eugoogoolizer: That's a lot of reading for a sub with " photo" in the title.... Don't you think?


i149.photobucket.com
2012-12-16 12:47:37 PM
3 votes:

SnarfVader: Very interesting find. I did not expect the pictures to be so colorful.


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♪ ♫ Pyongyang's such a wondeful place.
Worship Dear Leader, or we'll break your face. ♪ ♫
2012-12-16 03:11:13 PM
2 votes:

DarkHealer: Anyone else notice the running kid in #3? I see details of his STERNUM.

I guess that's not uncommon there but yikes.


data.whicdn.com
2012-12-16 02:49:01 PM
2 votes:

Tax Boy:

They seem to be doing ok, considering they're so tiny


images.icnetwork.co.uk

"What is this? An army for ants??!?!"
2012-12-16 11:39:29 AM
2 votes:

SnarfVader: Very interesting find. I did not expect the pictures to be so colorful.


Best Korea changed from Black and White to Color about 2 years ago.
It was an expensive project and caused mass food shortages.
2012-12-16 10:59:30 AM
2 votes:

Bit'O'Gristle: Looks iike a fun place. Esp with the political officers standing around with clubs every 10 feet.


They like to go clubbing.
2012-12-16 10:55:04 AM
2 votes:
Don't believe the terrible things you've heard. Just look at these ten carefully-selected pictures!
2012-12-16 04:19:43 PM
1 votes:

Suede head: Why do you Americans simply refuse to beleive that anyone who doesn't toe yourgovernment's line cannot be happyor fulfilled? Take a look at your own society's massive problems, your own crumbling infrastructure, your lack of healthcare, your massive, crowded prisons and disgusting political system (two parties, right-wing and very right-wing. Bribery so endemic it's actually open and legalised). Seems to me like YOU are the brainwashed people.


Too obvious. Zero points awarded.
2012-12-16 03:00:19 PM
1 votes:

krhn: I visited North Korea for vacation this past September.

Spent about a week mostly in Pyongyang, with some day trips to the DMZ, an industrial city, and a 'resort' village. Even got to see the Mass Games twice during the trip. I've traveled to a number of interesting places, but North Korea is by far the single most interesting place I've ever been to. Their people are completely isolated from the rest of the world - no internet, no ability to call outside the country, no ability to leave the county, no foreign media, only two or three state run tv channels pumping out propaganda 24 hours a day, almost no outside information whatsoever. It's like being in a huge, mind boggling social experiment. You essentially have an entire generation of people since the Korean war that know next to nothing about the outside world other than what the government has taught them. It's an absolutely fascinating experience.


American public schools?
2012-12-16 01:55:14 PM
1 votes:
images.icnetwork.co.uk

They seem to be doing ok, considering they're so tiny
2012-12-16 01:50:43 PM
1 votes:
I have been to North Korea four times and have traveled far beyond Pyongyang. The capitol is atypical of the country but still is a good barometer for viewing the upper segments of the society.

I have over 4000 photos on Flickr Link and a library of over 20,000 photos. I lecture on the DPRK.

While we are fully escorted (I am an American) if you know what to look for then you will see the society as a whole. As bad as the DPRK is they cannot hide everything. Sure we go to an amusement park and the propaganda sites but when you are in the rural areas for a week at a time you see what more of the people live like.

I can show scenes of happy people (which I have been criticized for) or the misery that you are looking for.

farm7.staticflickr.com
Older women breaking up rocks on the Youth Highway (Pyongyang to Nampo)

I have seen plenty of miserable scenes that I have not been able to photograph but I have seen similar things in rural China. Rural poverty in Asia is common. 

farm7.staticflickr.com

Scene near Po'ch-on on the eastern coast.

Indeed this is the most fascinating place to visit but to see the country you have to get out into the countryside and see the harvest, the small villages and the formerly closed cities. I was in the first group to see Hamhung and it was fascinating to see. Chongjin was just opened and they really did not want us to photograph that city. Finally more are getting in and we are able to get a better glimpse but what are you seeing? Look behind what they are showing you.

farm3.staticflickr.com

This is an illegal black market seller in Nampo (2009). Now that the regime has relaxed private selling you see more of this.

farm7.staticflickr.com

Sellers congregate at a crossroads near Anju.

What are the common people eating? I will often wander and see what is going on while rural people are eating lunch. Take a look. I have been in food distribution areas but was not able to photograph. I have been with physicians in rural areas looking at the nutritional conditions. It is third world marginal. I have seen bloated bellies. Rickets can be found. I have been to schools but looking at the schools I have not been in I can see a difference.

There are things they prefer not to show. I seek out those kinds of things.

farm7.staticflickr.com

Anti-American propaganda at a Chongjin primary school.

Getting to see the indoctrination room (the one for Kim Jong-Il) was great. A teacher took us to this one and I know they are not that keen to show this. They will show you the one for the Great Leader Kim Il-sung.

farm7.staticflickr.com

The farms and fields are where you get a great sense of agriculture. Corn is dried by hand. In the fall the roads are golden with corn.

farm4.staticflickr.com

I think there are three significant photographers of the DPRK.

Kernbeisser Link
Eric LafforgueLink
Mine are on Flickr Link

Kernbeisser has the best access,
Eric is the best photographer
I have the most and a broad geographic reach (every open place in the country over a four year period)
2012-12-16 01:13:15 PM
1 votes:
Anyone else notice the running kid in #3? I see details of his STERNUM.

I guess that's not uncommon there but yikes.
2012-12-16 12:07:10 PM
1 votes:
North Korea has some of the best energy conservation programs on Earth. They have an entire infrastructure that uses essentially none. Compared to South Korea there isn't even a comparison in green energy technology. North Korea is the best.
2012-12-16 11:58:36 AM
1 votes:
Hand picked photos of the CAPITAL of North Korea. How about venturing OUTSIDE (which they would have been shot for doing), and photograph the rest of North Korea?
The best photo of North Korea, is the one taken AT NIGHT.
Well, at least you could get a good view of the stars LOL.

www.newscientist.com
2012-12-16 11:48:41 AM
1 votes:
What? You mean something else isn't as horrible or wonderful as I imagined but is more in the middle? Why does this keep happening to me?
2012-12-16 11:42:14 AM
1 votes:
i show you big western dong. you rikey

www.japantimes.co.jp
2012-12-16 11:40:03 AM
1 votes:

ElLoco: They are the 1%.


And this is how life really is in the United States..

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www.gtspirit.com
2012-12-16 11:33:22 AM
1 votes:

krhn: Took a ton of photos while there:


I went through the entire set. Awesome. And the shots of the JSA were especially good. Those are the soldiers you don't EVER want to fark around with.
2012-12-16 11:18:28 AM
1 votes:
I like how no one ever seems to be smiling there. Or is that what I'm supposed to think?

Anyways...
www.japantimes.co.jp 

We have two pimps arguing over the take from the prostitutes who are rolling some chump. Siamese twin birth defects. Somebody retrieving drinking water for his family from a puddle. A decadent Mercedes that must belong to a political operative. A pedophile eyeballing the twins. And two gays working out an arrangement.

What a hellhole

/never mind the pile of rocks blocking the roadway and dilapidated facades.
2012-12-16 11:05:39 AM
1 votes:
I visited North Korea for vacation this past September.

Spent about a week mostly in Pyongyang, with some day trips to the DMZ, an industrial city, and a 'resort' village. Even got to see the Mass Games twice during the trip. I've traveled to a number of interesting places, but North Korea is by far the single most interesting place I've ever been to. Their people are completely isolated from the rest of the world - no internet, no ability to call outside the country, no ability to leave the county, no foreign media, only two or three state run tv channels pumping out propaganda 24 hours a day, almost no outside information whatsoever. It's like being in a huge, mind boggling social experiment. You essentially have an entire generation of people since the Korean war that know next to nothing about the outside world other than what the government has taught them. It's an absolutely fascinating experience.

The people in DPRK were incredibly friendly too, even knowing that I'm an American. I actually feel really bad for the Koreans - they're completely held hostage by their leadership.

I'd highly suggest that anyone with with more than just a passing curiosity a of DPRK visit themselves to see it first hand. It was one of the best experiences I've ever had.

Took a ton of photos while there:
DPRK Vacation 2012

Much of DPRK is grey and dreary like you'd expect, but there's a surprising amount of color, often in places you would not expect.
2012-12-16 11:00:06 AM
1 votes:

FriarReb98: Picture #7 would make pre-Internet me all sorts of happy.

\remember when that qualified as "porn" to a 13 year old?


I don't even have to go back and look. I know which one you're talking about. And yes, I do.
2012-12-16 10:54:21 AM
1 votes:
Picture #7 would make pre-Internet me all sorts of happy.

\remember when that qualified as "porn" to a 13 year old?
2012-12-16 10:52:31 AM
1 votes:
They are the 1%.
2012-12-16 01:37:47 AM
1 votes:
Very interesting find. I did not expect the pictures to be so colorful.
 
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