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(White House)   Finally, a White House petition for the US Government to declare the Westboro Baptist Church a hate group   (petitions.whitehouse.gov) divider line 129
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2012-12-16 01:19:38 AM
Because declaring it a hate group will solve so much.
 
2012-12-16 01:23:36 AM

giftedmadness: Because declaring it a hate group will solve so much.



Exactly.  WBC is already a known hate group.  Having the government make it official achieves nothing.
 
2012-12-16 01:54:43 AM
 
2012-12-16 02:41:23 AM
Master trolls. They even goad me from time to time, and I'm usually (not always) an expert in trolls.

It's clear what these people - or at least their leaders - actually want. To be attacked. Then come the lawsuits. The longer we can deny this, the more marginalized they will be.

Counter protests are fine. But FFS don't give these animals what they truly want.

/just don't look. just don't look.
 
2012-12-16 06:43:58 AM
Does our federal government declare nonviolent groups as hate groups?
 
2012-12-16 06:50:58 AM
On second thought, can the government actually deem a group as such? If so, what would that mean legally? I know that they have the power to declare terrorist groups as terrorist groups, but hate groups themselves?
 
2012-12-16 07:01:24 AM
Knowing Westboro's tactics, they probably started this petition themselves.

/nothing to see here
 
2012-12-16 07:05:20 AM
This has the same power and influence as a Facebook photo with the entreaty "LIKE this to help cure astigmatic left-handed bowlers with psoriasis, KEEP SCROLLING to fart in the Pope's hat."
 
2012-12-16 07:59:43 AM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: KEEP SCROLLING to fart in the Pope's hat


I meet keep scrolling for even the slimmest chance to do that...I might even click if I could do while he was wearing it.
 
2012-12-16 09:01:08 AM

giftedmadness: Because declaring it a hate group will solve so much.


You're right. It's absurd to think that exercising your right to petition the government, regardless of expected outcome, will ever accomplish anything.
 
2012-12-16 09:52:25 AM
That hate group really tied the room together
 
2012-12-16 09:53:16 AM
ya know, if people are going to go on mass killing sprees, why does no one who actually deserves to be shot, get shot?
 
2012-12-16 09:54:04 AM
Psh. We should petition the government to put the members of Westboro Baptist Church in a rocket and fire them right into the sun.
 
2012-12-16 09:54:58 AM
Um... "hate group" doesn't actually mean anything in practical or legal terms. If the feds use it as a term for something, it's probably restricted to possible sources of violence and isn't intended to be applied to random dicks.
 
2012-12-16 09:56:08 AM
Thinking of starting a petition to get the GOP declared as a hate group.

Who's with me?
 
2012-12-16 09:56:46 AM

SuperT: ya know, if people are going to go on mass killing sprees, why does no one who actually deserves to be shot, get shot?


Because God wasn't allowed in the classroom. -Mike Derpabee.
 
2012-12-16 09:57:05 AM

SuperT: ya know, if people are going to go on mass killing sprees, why does no one who actually deserves to be shot, get shot?


If anyone is carrying at "church", it would be the WBC people.

It wouldn't surprise me if the WBC people started this petition.
 
2012-12-16 09:57:09 AM

coeyagi: Thinking of starting a petition to get the GOP declared as a hate group.

Who's with me?


I second the motion. All those in favor?
 
2012-12-16 09:58:35 AM
I will stand up for their right to be awful and offensive.

I find the group in charge of Congress to also be awful and offensive.
 
2012-12-16 09:59:24 AM
Why give those losers the attention that they're craving for.

And I'm not talking about the Fark troll either.

/Hey-o!
 
2012-12-16 10:00:35 AM

coeyagi: SuperT: ya know, if people are going to go on mass killing sprees, why does no one who actually deserves to be shot, get shot?

Because God wasn't allowed in the classroom. -Mike Derpabee.


One of my Tea Derper friends on Facebook posted a photo of roughly that comment. I asked her how we could prevent God from being somewhere if, as Christianity professes, God is omnipresent. Her comment back was that the line was merely about how America no longer has a moral compass. Because everyone other than Evangelical Christians who vote straight-ticket GOP has no morals at all and thinks cold-blooded executions are farking awesome.
 
2012-12-16 10:00:36 AM

easypray: I will stand up for their right to be awful and offensive.

I find the group in charge of Congress to also be awful and offensive.


They will still have that right. It's just now we can point at them with even straighter fingers... or something.
 
2012-12-16 10:02:28 AM

cman: Does our federal government declare nonviolent groups as hate groups?


No, they call them terrorist groups.
 
2012-12-16 10:03:57 AM

giftedmadness: Because declaring it a hate group specialty law firm will solve so much.

 

Actually nominating Phelps for US Supreme Court may bring more shame. Unless of course he passes. Then it'd be a case of having an expert who really games the rules as a "watchdog."
 
2012-12-16 10:04:26 AM
Hate group?? well, maybe. they are much more a Stupid Group to me because so little of what they 'believe' can withstand any critical dissecting.
 
2012-12-16 10:05:37 AM
its perfectly withing their rights of Free Speech to display just how ingnorant they really are.
 
2012-12-16 10:06:12 AM

Serious Black: coeyagi: Thinking of starting a petition to get the GOP declared as a hate group.

Who's with me?

I second the motion. All those in favor?


I move for unanimous consent.
 
2012-12-16 10:06:13 AM
I think public schools should be taught religion. Every month, teach a different one. Let Christianity have December so you can tie in Christmas.

Or March/April, depending which month Easter falls in.
 
2012-12-16 10:06:37 AM

Linux_Yes: its perfectly withing their rights of Free Speech to display just how ingnorant they really are.


Yes, but what's wrong with labeling them as a hate group? They have no limited free speech to my knowledge due to such a designation, again, we can just point and laugh harder I guess.
 
2012-12-16 10:08:22 AM

Im_Gumby: Serious Black: coeyagi: Thinking of starting a petition to get the GOP declared as a hate group.

Who's with me?

I second the motion. All those in favor?

I move for unanimous consent.


Are there any objections?
 
2012-12-16 10:08:50 AM
I'm in the hategroup that hates the the Westboro Baptist Church. Finally in a majority group.
 
2012-12-16 10:13:34 AM
I saw this petition and thought...

giftedmadness: Because declaring it a hate group will solve so much.

 
2012-12-16 10:15:19 AM
I just don't see them as much of a threat. I also don't want the government saying who is and who isn't a hate group.
 
2012-12-16 10:15:21 AM
Actually a petition to block people from paying attention to them would be more effective.
 
2012-12-16 10:18:27 AM
They aren't a hate group, they're a con artist group.
They want to rake in the dough from a first amendment backed lawsuit.

They need to be ignored.
 
2012-12-16 10:18:42 AM
Yawn.
 
2012-12-16 10:19:07 AM
dickfreckle: just don't look. just don't look.

Does that come with Paul Anka's guarantee?
 
2012-12-16 10:23:17 AM
It just crossed 25k...
 
2012-12-16 10:24:04 AM

Serious Black: Im_Gumby: Serious Black: coeyagi: Thinking of starting a petition to get the GOP declared as a hate group.

Who's with me?

I second the motion. All those in favor?

I move for unanimous consent.

Are there any objections?


Seeing as there are no objections... motion carries.

Now, do I set this us as a FarkUs thread or what?
 
2012-12-16 10:31:02 AM
does anyone know if this group has tax exempt status as a church?
 
2012-12-16 10:36:08 AM

Aar1012: dickfreckle: just don't look. just don't look.

Does that come with Paul Anka's guarantee?


Yeah but it's void in Tennessee.
 
2012-12-16 10:45:05 AM
How about no. I hate them and what they do, but there are better ways of dealing with these assholes.
 
2012-12-16 10:47:02 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: does anyone know if this group has tax exempt status as a church?


Yes, it does. You want to revoke it based on the content of their religion? Good luck.
 
2012-12-16 10:49:15 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-16 10:51:04 AM

Bigdogdaddy: How about no. I hate them and what they do, but there are better ways of dealing with these assholes.


Yeah, we could teach psycho mass shooters how to pick their targets better.

Not news: WBC is headed for Newton.
 
2012-12-16 10:52:24 AM
We've cleared 25k

img.photobucket.com

Sign here
 
2012-12-16 10:53:48 AM

fusillade762: They're already on the SPLC's list. And the feds don't publish a list.

The FBI does not publish a list of hate groups, and "nvestigations are conducted only when a threat or advocacy of force is made; when the group has the apparent ability to carry out the proclaimed act; and when the act would constitute a potential violation of federal law."

This petition is utterly pointless.


Like the Death Star petition?
 
2012-12-16 10:59:20 AM

BarkingUnicorn: Yes, it does. You want to revoke it based on the content of their religion? Good luck.


did I say that? was it somehow inferred in a simple question?
 
2012-12-16 10:59:33 AM
I'm sorry, but the WBC is protected under the 1st Amendment which guarantees the freedom of speech. Read the decision of Snyder v. Phelps. Their speech is extreme in nature on the same level as the film 'Innocence of the Muslims'. I don't agree with them, but it is protected by our Constitution. We have to tolerate them.

What the WBC is doing is making their statements on a public sidewalk. Attempting to ban their speech could in fact restrict others in the future too and could force us to go down a slippery slope of turning into a police state similar to the UK which bans certain people like Snoop Dogg from entering their country. Simply choosing to ignore the WBC is the right decision here. The WBC have in fact protested in my city, but I didn't go and see them protest. I had other important things to do then to waste my time seeing them.
 
2012-12-16 11:06:39 AM

Serious Black: Psh. We should petition the government to put the members of Westboro Baptist Church in a rocket and fire them right into the sun.


Pfft. Tell them there are gays on Mars and that we're going to send them there to protest all that debauchery. Don't forget to tell them that Martians have tons of money and a great court system. Watch then volunteer to go, and who cares if the contractor cuts a few corners on the life support.

/Capricorn 1
//Without the sets
 
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