Fark You I'm Drunk: [3.bp.blogspot.com image 512x401]Makes sense. I view the Hobbit as a continuation of the Christian themes in all of Peter Jackson's other films.
graggor: Gyrfalcon: Daikiki: graggor: this is final farewell to the tolkien univserse. peter jackson seems to have it right so far.Just wait until he gets his hands on the Silmarilion. It'll probably end up being 16 four hour movies.We should be so lucky. "The Children of Hurin" would be 16 four-hour movies all by itself.hyperbole aside. He has enough material to fill this time. the movie didnt feel long. it was paced well and it was exciting. I didnt ever feel like unecesarry info was being told.
ClintonKun: And, yeah, if there are any more Tolkien adaptations, The Children of Hurin is perhaps the best candidate for it. It'd probably be depressing as hell, though.
Alphax: ClintonKun: And, yeah, if there are any more Tolkien adaptations, The Children of Hurin is perhaps the best candidate for it. It'd probably be depressing as hell, though.Mmmm, dragon destroyed cities and accidental incest..
thisispete: urban.derelict: Because Catholics and the RCC take what they want, force you to convert at swordpoint (or kill you if you refused) and then call it their own?[lh4.googleusercontent.com image 220x269][lh3.googleusercontent.com image 214x252][lh4.googleusercontent.com image 217x207]/WAIT TIL I TELL YOU ABOUT EASTER...Conversion didn't happen by the sword in Western Europe. It happened via missionaries. There's a great episode of Hardcore History about this. Basically, if the king converted, everyone else converted too. But there was a very weird amalgam in early Christianity between the old traditions and the new with depictions of a warrior Christ in place of similar warlike pagan gods. It also made sense to keep the holidays. Basing them on the solstice, like Christmas/Yule/Saturnalia/Sol Invictus makes sense in a society where there isn't much literacy or many calendars, but everyone can see the sky.The metaphor of reaching the lowest point in the year and the days starting to lengthen is also to be noted. There are obvious fertility parallels in Easter around Spring with its idea of resurrection after death. There's also some scriptural basis in its link with the Jewish festival of Passover and the timing of Easter, but again it falls on the Sunday following the first full moon that falls on or after the spring equinox and when calendars were rare, this was probably the most reliable way that communities throughout Christendom were on the same page.The transition between paganism and Christianity was a gradual one and not an overwhelming revolution, so older traditions evolved and adopted new meanings. A new religion probably will find it difficult to succeed if they get rid of the festivals and piss ups enjoyed by previous generations. The Puritans outlawed Christmas when they were in charge in Britain, and the monarchy was swiftly restored after Cromwell's death.
Gyrfalcon: Yes, with all the Norse themes and Celtic imagery, it's easy to see the Christian basis in there.....why do people keep trying?
Jake Havechek: At the beginning, it is not clear why the reluctant Baggins has been tapped to help lead the Hobbits' grand adventure. Baggins "does not know his ability," Chance said, "but he knows he has the character to develop into the kind of hero who can rescue a civilization."Bilbo only found the damned thing, that was his whole purpose. To hold onto it until Frodo got it and Gandalf knew more about it.Tolkien loathed allegory, by the way.
Phil Moskowitz: Headlines like this make me want to cut the cord to my cable modem. I think anything with "Christian" in it makes me physically ill.
Jgok: DanZero: So are we gonna get a review from our fine friends at CapAlert?Wonder how this falls on the W I S D O M metersHow in the name of FSM have I not seen that site yet?/bookmarked for HOURS of entertainment later//"flash of implication of female upper nudity" indeed...
towatchoverme: Phil Moskowitz: Headlines like this make me want to cut the cord to my cable modem. I think anything with "Christian" in it makes me physically ill.[snarkerati.com image 500x405]
Manfred J. Hattan: The figure who gives his life to defeat evil and allow man's salvation was Gollum. Just sayin', is all.
beantowndog: Bilbo fought a dragon, just like jesus.
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