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2012-12-15 06:28:17 PM
Be sure to select the "Personal" option when sending money via Paypal, so no fees will be deducted.

/not subby, still sad
 
2012-12-15 06:40:38 PM
So very sad.
 
2012-12-15 06:58:00 PM
*sigh* Just one of many human faces to this tragedy.
 
2012-12-15 07:04:19 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Be sure to select the "Personal" option when sending money via Paypal, so no fees will be deducted.

/not subby, still sad


Personal or "gift?" I thought it was gift that removed the fees.
 
2012-12-15 07:07:21 PM
I saw her father in the news, forgiving the shooter.

Much better person than I could ever hope to be.
 
2012-12-15 07:41:25 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I saw her father in the news, forgiving the shooter.

Much better person than I could ever hope to be.


He is one of the nicest persons I've ever known in my life. I'm still having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around this and cannot even imagine how hard this has to be for the victims and their families to go through.

/subby
 
2012-12-15 08:36:08 PM

DeArmondVI: AdolfOliverPanties: I saw her father in the news, forgiving the shooter.

Much better person than I could ever hope to be.

He is one of the nicest persons I've ever known in my life. I'm still having a lot of trouble wrapping my head around this and cannot even imagine how hard this has to be for the victims and their families to go through.

/subby


I truly cannot imagine this. How can somebody do this to kids? How can the parents be calm?
 
2012-12-15 08:46:25 PM

Lsherm: BarkingUnicorn: Be sure to select the "Personal" option when sending money via Paypal, so no fees will be deducted.

/not subby, still sad

Personal or "gift?" I thought it was gift that removed the fees.


All Personal transfers are fee-free. "Gift" is just one of the labels.
 
2012-12-15 08:48:27 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: I saw her father in the news, forgiving the shooter.

Much better person than I could ever hope to be.


Okay, I'm onboard.

/light the candle > curse the darkness
 
2012-12-15 09:07:44 PM
This is the saddest event I believe I've ever witnessed. No words can do it justice.


One note though, Subby, did you email Paypal about this? Just want to make sure they don't lock down your account because of too many "gifts". They're scumbags when it comes to stuff like this.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 09:12:43 PM
"On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???
 
2012-12-15 09:19:57 PM

NFA: "On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???


Fark has been hit by money grubbers for awhile; every day in fact and I am tired of itr. This guy's cause may be BS or legit. I'm done with the public begging with emotional issues and the scammers.
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2012-12-15 09:20:12 PM

NFA: "On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???


Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.
 
2012-12-15 09:26:43 PM

NFA: "On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???


The last time I pointed something like that out it was the lesbian attack thread that turned out to be a fake assault and a real bank account. At least this time we know the assault and the bank account are real.

It doesn't smell fishy, but it's not all correct, either. It's a Facebook account set up for a fund by people who know the family, but aren't the family, located in Utah. I get that they are family friends, but all this seems a bit off.
 
2012-12-15 09:31:12 PM

Coco LaFemme: NFA: "On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???

Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.


Actually, YOU need to read. This is a page set up yesterday by people who claim to be long-time family friends of the victim. Everything else are just posts from people falling all over themselves to hand money over to people in another state because they say they were friends with the parents at some point in the past.

And if this turns out to be a hoax, I'm going to be just as pissed as I was in the lesbian thread. It really sucks having to think the worst of people. If it isn't, then it's a damn shame I thought it was.
 
2012-12-15 09:33:35 PM

Lsherm: Coco LaFemme: NFA: "On Friday, Dec 14th Emilie Parker was killed in the shooting in Connecticut. We are seeking to assist them by setting up the Emilie Parker Memorial Fund at America First Credit Union in Utah. " Them?

Oh and don't forget to donate to my charity linked in facebook. It's the I'll Accept Money From Anyone Gulable Enough to Send Money to a Non-organized/registered Charity Promoted by a Complete Stranger. So don't forget to donate today, the funds will go to a good cause... I promise.

Won't you please donate to the IAMFAGESMNCPCS today???

Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.

Actually, YOU need to read. This is a page set up yesterday by people who claim to be long-time family friends of the victim. Everything else are just posts from people falling all over themselves to hand money over to people in another state because they say they were friends with the parents at some point in the past.

And if this turns out to be a hoax, I'm going to be just as pissed as I was in the lesbian thread. It really sucks having to think the worst of people. If it isn't, then it's a damn shame I thought it was.


I'm normally very cynical, but when it comes to dead kids.....I don't know, the cynical biatch switch doesn't get flipped. I tend to believe that something that public wouldn't be easy to lie about.
 
2012-12-15 09:36:57 PM
Sorry, smits. And as a parent, my deepest sympathy to your friend, they're going to need all the friends in the world for a long time.
 
2012-12-15 09:42:10 PM

Coco LaFemme: I tend to believe that something that public wouldn't be easy to lie about.


I used to think that too.
 
2012-12-15 09:44:02 PM
I'm just waiting here for something decent to donate to in regards to this situation.

Something to help benefit the children who lived (funds for psych treatments, scholarship fund for any who make it to college), a memorial for those who died, something worthwhile.

Anyone hear rumblings of something larger coming down the pipes?
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 09:45:13 PM

Coco LaFemme: Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.


Them who?

Listen up simpleton, I'm trying to help the victims by encouraging people to give money to the grieving families though properly administered charities, which actually require the money to go to the victims.

Now go ahead and get spun up and cause money to go into the pockets of some dirt bag.

There is no possible way this is a legal charity. To collect money for charity, you must be registered with the state and there not a chance in hell that this person properly registered this charity by Friday afternoon and is up and running legally on Saturday. NO WAY

Go ahead subby post your charity registration number. 

Fark needs to shut down this thread immediately.
 
2012-12-15 09:45:17 PM

msupf: I'm just waiting here for something decent to donate to in regards to this situation.

Something to help benefit the children who lived (funds for psych treatments, scholarship fund for any who make it to college), a memorial for those who died, something worthwhile.

Anyone hear rumblings of something larger coming down the pipes?


It's been two days. Wait at least a week.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 09:49:50 PM

Lsherm: msupf: I'm just waiting here for something decent to donate to in regards to this situation.

Something to help benefit the children who lived (funds for psych treatments, scholarship fund for any who make it to college), a memorial for those who died, something worthwhile.

Anyone hear rumblings of something larger coming down the pipes?

It's been two days. Wait at least a week.


It takes a few days to set up a legal charity. There is virtually no chance this is a legal charity. Especially since it's someone in Utah.
 
2012-12-15 09:53:04 PM
Sorry for your friend's loss. I will give my money to Wikipedia instead.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 10:05:25 PM
 
2012-12-15 10:15:27 PM

NFA: Lsherm: msupf: I'm just waiting here for something decent to donate to in regards to this situation.

Something to help benefit the children who lived (funds for psych treatments, scholarship fund for any who make it to college), a memorial for those who died, something worthwhile.

Anyone hear rumblings of something larger coming down the pipes?

It's been two days. Wait at least a week.

It takes a few days to set up a legal charity. There is virtually no chance this is a legal charity. Especially since it's someone in Utah.


That's fine, I know it takes time for something legit to get done, was mainly curious as to whether anyone has heard anything from someplace that has successfully done fund raisers/charity donations on a wide scale yet. Like the oatmeal. I would rather encourage people on Fb to donate to something than just click like or share for things that are popping up relentlessly right now with misinformation or things that they likely don't have permission to use yet.
 
2012-12-15 10:16:41 PM

NFA: Coco LaFemme: Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.

Them who?

Listen up simpleton, I'm trying to help the victims by encouraging people to give money to the grieving families though properly administered charities, which actually require the money to go to the victims.

Now go ahead and get spun up and cause money to go into the pockets of some dirt bag.

There is no possible way this is a legal charity. To collect money for charity, you must be registered with the state and there not a chance in hell that this person properly registered this charity by Friday afternoon and is up and running legally on Saturday. NO WAY

Go ahead subby post your charity registration number. 

Fark needs to shut down this thread immediately.


.......I'm not subby. If you want to address the submitter of the thread, don't quote me.
 
2012-12-15 10:27:49 PM
Second one of these I've seen today. Innocence shattered.
 
2012-12-15 10:48:22 PM
I got on and donated while he was still conducting his live interview.

Was nice to come here and see the power of Fark behind this too.

And for the cynics, this is the page Mr. Parker quoted from his interview, this isn't a start up scam trying to capitalize on a tragedy.
 
2012-12-15 10:52:32 PM

NFA: Fark needs to shut down this thread immediately.


This planet is farked up.
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 11:11:51 PM

Cup Check: And for the cynics, this is the page Mr. Parker quoted from his interview, this isn't a start up scam trying to capitalize on a tragedy.


It's just an unregistered and therefore illegal charity. An unregistered charity can use the money for anything and everything. If the unregistered collector then donates the money to a tax exempt charity, HE GETS TO CLAIM YOUR DONATION ON HIS TAX RETURN.
 
2012-12-15 11:13:29 PM

Cup Check: I got on and donated while he was still conducting his live interview.

Was nice to come here and see the power of Fark behind this too.

And for the cynics, this is the page Mr. Parker quoted from his interview, this isn't a start up scam trying to capitalize on a tragedy.


I'll be "that guy":

What interview?
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 11:13:51 PM

Coco LaFemme: NFA: Coco LaFemme: Yeah, "them." "Them" as in the deceased child's family. It's called reading. You might want to try it sometime. You're a disgusting human being, and that's the nicest thing I could think to say about that post that won't get me banninated.

Them who?

Listen up simpleton, I'm trying to help the victims by encouraging people to give money to the grieving families though properly administered charities, which actually require the money to go to the victims.

Now go ahead and get spun up and cause money to go into the pockets of some dirt bag.

There is no possible way this is a legal charity. To collect money for charity, you must be registered with the state and there not a chance in hell that this person properly registered this charity by Friday afternoon and is up and running legally on Saturday. NO WAY

Go ahead subby post your charity registration number. 

Fark needs to shut down this thread immediately.

.......I'm not subby. If you want to address the submitter of the thread, don't quote me.


Yes, I agree. The subby should post their charity registration info.
 
2012-12-15 11:35:56 PM

NFA: Cup Check: And for the cynics, this is the page Mr. Parker quoted from his interview, this isn't a start up scam trying to capitalize on a tragedy.

It's just an unregistered and therefore illegal charity. An unregistered charity can use the money for anything and everything. If the unregistered collector then donates the money to a tax exempt charity, HE GETS TO CLAIM YOUR DONATION ON HIS TAX RETURN.


His daughter was just murdered in her classroom. You think I really give a fark? It's going to help pay for her funeral and you're worried about the tax code? Wow
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 11:47:33 PM

Cup Check: His daughter was just murdered in her classroom. You think I really give a fark? It's going to help pay for her funeral and you're worried about the tax code? Wow


You do realize the person collecting the money lives in Utah and isn't a part of the family right?
 
2012-12-15 11:52:13 PM
Well, this devolved quickly....
 
2012-12-15 11:56:50 PM

msupf: Well, this devolved quickly....


Shouldn't it have?
 
2012-12-16 12:12:07 AM

NFA: Cup Check: His daughter was just murdered in her classroom. You think I really give a fark? It's going to help pay for her funeral and you're worried about the tax code? Wow

You do realize the person collecting the money lives in Utah and isn't a part of the family right?


concern troll is concerned.
 
2012-12-16 12:16:19 AM
Isn't this interesting.

In the "lesbian beating" thread, I said I was going to give the "victim" the benefit of the doubt until I had more information. When the whole thing turned out to be a hoax, I expressed my disappointment, but said that I hadn't changed my mind about such stories in general, and next time, I would again give the benefit of the doubt until I had more information.

Fark basically gathered around me in a circle to point and laugh at my credulousness and lack of critical thinking skills, with some posters taking special time out of their day specifically to tear me apart.

Well, it's the "next time." What now? I do so want to hang out with all the cool kids. Your personal approval fills me with joy.
 
2012-12-16 12:16:31 AM

NFA: Cup Check: His daughter was just murdered in her classroom. You think I really give a fark? It's going to help pay for her funeral and you're worried about the tax code? Wow

You do realize the person collecting the money lives in Utah and isn't a part of the family right?


You do realize he grew up in Utah and moved to Newtown to take a job in the medical field, right?
 
2012-12-16 12:25:58 AM

peasandcarrots: Isn't this interesting.

In the "lesbian beating" thread, I said I was going to give the "victim" the benefit of the doubt until I had more information. When the whole thing turned out to be a hoax, I expressed my disappointment, but said that I hadn't changed my mind about such stories in general, and next time, I would again give the benefit of the doubt until I had more information.

Fark basically gathered around me in a circle to point and laugh at my credulousness and lack of critical thinking skills, with some posters taking special time out of their day specifically to tear me apart.

Well, it's the "next time." What now? I do so want to hang out with all the cool kids. Your personal approval fills me with joy.


I'll give benefit of the doubt but I won't give a dime until things get confirmed.

What is the value of the benefit of the doubt though, beyond mere politeness?

I do wonder why a charity should be set up for funeral costs though.
I'd rather give money to a living child. If the parents can't afford death costs wtf were they going to do about continuing costs of raising the youngun?

Do the parents NEED the money, or does tragedy mean I feel bad about not giving victims money just because?

/ya ya, I'm calloused.
 
2012-12-16 12:54:19 AM
The problem I have with this thread is that the lesbian attack thread was the same thing: "Subby's" something something.

This is on the front page, so Fark is clearly doing something to cull fake submissions, but they aren't following up. This could turn out to be a fake, and Fark doesn't have any idea. I don't expect them to, but I think green lighting the link lends credence to the charity.
 
2012-12-16 01:29:32 AM
There will be plenty of time to donate to proper 501(c)3 organizations who are helping these people. If you wish to donate now, the churches and other charities in the Newton area would be glad to put your money to good use. The Animal Center would most surely welcome you contribution (to go with the one I just made).

There are I am sure other charitable organizations in Newtown who could use the help as well and you can certainly send a note showing your solidarity with the town in their time of grief.

There are victim compensation funds and insurance that will be able to sort out the financial details for the families of those children and adults murdered. There is no urgency to donate, no one will go unserved, all the families will have the funerals they wish.

I know it is hard not to do something when a tragedy like this strikes, but take the time to think how your help can be best used. The needs of the members of the community that were there before this tragedy will continue, but many local people will be unable to pitch in like they usually do, we can help the city by being their backup, by providing money to the charities that have served the community well for many years.

Perhaps the Newtown Volunteer Ambulance
The Public Library
Sandy Hook Volunteer Fire Department

Perhaps one of the Churches, Christ the King Lutheran, St.John Lutheran, Grace Family Church, St.Rose of Lima Catholic Church, Newton Congregational Church, or any of the others in the area.

While we all want to think that everyone is doing the right thing in trying to help, we must be cautious whenever we make charitable contributions to be certain that our money will do the most good.

Long established charities that may be hurt by this tragedy seem to me to be the best bet. If you wish to donate to the families I suggest that you wait a bit to see what official funds are establishes, and to follow the wishes of the families as they make them known.

While we at a distance can do little, I am sure our prayers and thoughts are appreciated as much if not more so than money right now. There are so many victims in tragedies like this that are not evident at first look. The police, paramedics and fire fighters would be greatly helped by knowing you care and are concerned about them as well. The City of Newtown in which the village of Sandy Hook is located has linked to the United Way's Sandy Hook fund from the city web page.

Please do help, but don't rush in. Examination of the charity and introspection are called for when you give to help others. Do it wisely and your money will do great good.
 
2012-12-16 01:32:31 AM

Lsherm: The problem I have with this thread is that the lesbian attack thread was the same thing: "Subby's" something something.

This is on the front page, so Fark is clearly doing something to cull fake submissions, but they aren't following up. This could turn out to be a fake, and Fark doesn't have any idea. I don't expect them to, but I think green lighting the link lends credence to the charity.


I don't think it is Fark's place to vet charitable appeals, we must all do our own due diligence. I'm not comfortable donating to a cause when I have nothing to go on other than the plea of a voice on the Internet.

You are wise to be concerned, but we each need to decide for ourselves. I believe someone on Fark has a personal connection to this appeal and that may help them make their decision. The rest of us may not be so familiar with the cause, and we must decide if it is right for us. That is not something Fark can do, it is something we must do for ourselves.
 
2012-12-16 01:35:32 AM
I wonder if the Mods can put feckingmorons post at the top of the thread
 
2012-12-16 01:40:15 AM
And before the "citation needed" crowd shows up,

http://www.thetranscript.com/ci_22201058/emilie-parker-sandy-hook-sh oo ting-victim 

http://fox13now.com/2012/12/14/girl-with-utah-ties-among-26-killed-i n- conn-shooting/

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Ogden-girl-killed-in-Co nn ecticut-school-massacre/E55JuV450kSKimeRgEnWYA.cspx

Oh, and here's a link to the interview in which I was referring earlier:

http://youtu.be/Be1uDu-H3FM

I'm not trying to encourage anyone to donate, do what you want. I acted before I thought, I'll admit, but I spent a good deal of time afterward trying to debunk it. So far, the names and circumstances match the info given on the FB page, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. I'm certainly more comfortable donating directly to a family than to an organization who may or may not take a chunk of it for "administrative costs" or whatnot. I'm 3,000 miles away from this and if this is the best I can do lend a helping hand because I have an overwhelming desire to, then so be it. If more get set up in the names of other victims, I'll donate there too.

I'd rather get scammed and at least have tried to help rather than sit on my ass and worry about it.
 
2012-12-16 01:55:00 AM

Cup Check: And before the "citation needed" crowd shows up,

http://www.thetranscript.com/ci_22201058/emilie-parker-sandy-hook-sh oo ting-victim 

http://fox13now.com/2012/12/14/girl-with-utah-ties-among-26-killed-i n- conn-shooting/

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/state/story/Ogden-girl-killed-in-Co nn ecticut-school-massacre/E55JuV450kSKimeRgEnWYA.cspx

Oh, and here's a link to the interview in which I was referring earlier:

http://youtu.be/Be1uDu-H3FM

I'm not trying to encourage anyone to donate, do what you want. I acted before I thought, I'll admit, but I spent a good deal of time afterward trying to debunk it. So far, the names and circumstances match the info given on the FB page, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. I'm certainly more comfortable donating directly to a family than to an organization who may or may not take a chunk of it for "administrative costs" or whatnot. I'm 3,000 miles away from this and if this is the best I can do lend a helping hand because I have an overwhelming desire to, then so be it. If more get set up in the names of other victims, I'll donate there too.

I'd rather get scammed and at least have tried to help rather than sit on my ass and worry about it.


Publicly available information matches up with the information on the donation site? Well that proves it! :P
 
2012-12-16 02:33:16 AM

Lsherm: The problem I have with this thread is that the lesbian attack thread was the same thing: "Subby's" something something.

This is on the front page, so Fark is clearly doing something to cull fake submissions, but they aren't following up. This could turn out to be a fake, and Fark doesn't have any idea. I don't expect them to, but I think green lighting the link lends credence to the charity.



No, this is on the FarkUs tab, which is where fundraising threads go. 
 
2012-12-16 05:59:16 AM

GGracie: I wonder if the Mods can put feckingmorons post at the top of the thread


Agreed, GGracie. And he handled that a hell of a lot better then I would of....

Thank you, feckingmorons!
 
2012-12-16 08:06:53 AM
OK, but why are they burying the rest of the family?
 
2012-12-16 10:54:40 AM

Dezilith: GGracie: I wonder if the Mods can put feckingmorons post at the top of the thread

Agreed, GGracie. And he handled that a hell of a lot better then I would of....

Thank you, feckingmorons!


Sometimes I'm the adult. Who knows why that happens.

I'm going out to ride bikes.
 
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