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(Fox 6 Birmingham)   Old and busted: local cities prohibit smoking in restaurants and bars. New hotness: federal government prohibits smoking in apartment complexes   (myfoxal.com) divider line 42
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2012-12-15 08:54:09 PM  
7 votes:
Meanwhile everyone living near a busy street is breathing fumes from exhaust and airborne road grime particles. This is the big conspiracy -- tobacco is an easy scapegoat to place blame for health problems actually caused by the automotive-oil-chemical cartel. Once tobacco is illegal and eradicated people will still be breathing the floating debris from millions of dirty vehicles kicking toxic dust into the atmosphere.

/ no one thinks about all of the fine road dust, road dust consisting of ALL the chemicals spilled upon said roads, that gets scattered into the air with every passing tire. I will probably be killed just for knowing about this and farking it to fark.
2012-12-15 08:43:19 PM  
6 votes:
Such absolute bullshiat. I hate the smell as well, but don't try and claim that exposure levels in the parts per billion will cause long term adverse affects in otherwise healthy people. The amount of enviromental pollutants with equal or greater concentrations must be in the thousands.
2012-12-15 08:54:07 PM  
5 votes:
Honestly surprised more complexes don't just put it in the lease that tenants can't smoke.

Fiancé was a leasing agent for a while... the amount of damage a smoker does to an apt in a year's time is astounding. Freshly painted walls are yellow and gummy; duct work, even after cleaning, is gummy and nasty and reeks of smoke; plastics throughout the apt need replacing; carpets and padding often need to be just torn out and replaced since cleanings don't always work, and so on and so on.

It got to the point where one particular apt had to be stripped down to studs because 2 years after the fact the place was still untenable because of two heavy smokers who lived there a couple years ago. They smoke so heavily that they stained the insulation and drywall opposite.
2012-12-15 08:45:51 PM  
5 votes:
Meanwhile, the truck idling right outside my building is pumping health and long life into my apartment.

//No, seriously. The delivery trucks and the guy with the gas powered snow blower is more obnoxious than my smoking neighbors.
2012-12-15 09:13:52 PM  
3 votes:

steamingpile: MurphyMurphy: But we can still smoke in the office, in airplanes and the movie theater, right?

I mean, as long as we don't go crazy with this whole thing...

Only non smokers know how bad the smell is, smokers want to act persecuted but even being around smokers puts off an odor. What I still find amazing is that smokers think they can mask the smell or that we can't tell they smell like an ashtray.


i find it amazing how much people gripe about cigarette smoke and completely gloss over other airborne contaminants that are way worse for you.
2012-12-15 09:10:42 PM  
3 votes:

the_vegetarian_cannibal: For smoking, on the other hand, literally every cigarette causes a little bit of irreversible lung damage that lasts a lifetime


Remember when they thought nerve and neuron damage was irreversible, too? The lungs exist. They were formed once. That provides evidence that they can be re-formed. Maybe you don't know how to do it, but does that mean that it's impossible?
2012-12-15 09:16:32 PM  
2 votes:
And meanwhile we subsidize the obesity epidemic with cheap corn and soy....................
2012-12-15 09:14:50 PM  
2 votes:

drewogatory: Such absolute bullshiat. I hate the smell as well, but don't try and claim that exposure levels in the parts per billion will cause long term adverse affects in otherwise healthy people. The amount of enviromental pollutants with equal or greater concentrations must be in the thousands.


This. I'd like to see the actual levels of actual harmful chemicals in adjoining units, compared with the PEL or TLV (the limit at which somebody can be exposed for a lifetime without PPE) for that substance. I'm betting none of the ones they detected exceed the limit, and I'd make a side bet that some of the detected compounds were from some other source (formaldehyde from chipboard furniture, etc).

I don't doubt that some smoke and smell gets through, what I do doubt is that it is enough to cause harm

That being said, if a landlord wants to ban it on their property, I'm good with that. Hell, the house I rent now, and the three places before that had no smoking clauses in the lease.

/Nonsmoker these days
//Yay E-Cig
2012-12-15 08:58:01 PM  
2 votes:

Rufus Lee King: Kill all tobacco smokers! Yay!

Marijuana is still ok, though, right?

Goddamned hypocrites.


I don't smoke either one, but I'm pretty sure only one of those causes lung cancer (among other problems) and has been proven to be addictive.
2012-12-15 08:49:16 PM  
2 votes:
Smoking seems so anachronistic to me. It's just one of those things I associate with the 1950s.

We never see smokers in our area. And smoking is banned just about everywhere we go, including our university campus. However, during our recent visit to England, we saw smokers everywhere. It was really weird.
2012-12-15 07:14:26 PM  
2 votes:
The federal government isn't prohibiting it, Troll-mitter.
2012-12-16 12:00:06 AM  
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: Rufus Lee King: Kill all tobacco smokers! Yay!

Marijuana is still ok, though, right?

Goddamned hypocrites.

I don't smoke either one, but I'm pretty sure only one of those causes lung cancer (among other problems) and has been proven to be addictive.


Pretty sure you're an idiot if you think smoking pot DOESN'T cause lung cancer. Smoke is smoke. Smoking causes DNA damage. DNA damage leads to cancer.

Study it out.
2012-12-15 10:52:39 PM  
1 votes:
If cigarettes/tobacco is so dangerous, why not just ban it like they do everything else?
Because the pig that eats and eats called the federal government couldn't stand the loss
of taxes
2012-12-15 10:16:50 PM  
1 votes:

steamingpile: MurphyMurphy: But we can still smoke in the office, in airplanes and the movie theater, right?

I mean, as long as we don't go crazy with this whole thing...

Only non smokers know how bad the smell is, smokers want to act persecuted but even being around smokers puts off an odor. What I still find amazing is that smokers think they can mask the smell or that we can't tell they smell like an ashtray.


I'm an ex-smoker. I know all about it.

What I still find amazing is, other people think that their offensive odors are ok... to the degree it's socially unacceptable to tell anyone we don't want to smell their stinking ass/Indianfood/perfume/whathaveyou.

But a smoker?! Oh god, look out, this farking smoker thinks he can OFFEND my delicate nostrils with his terrible evil dirty lifestyle choice. I bet I'm getting hundreds of cancers every second I smell the smoke lingering on this guys' jacket.

If I was to choose to start smoking again, I'll agree that you shouldnt' have to stand in a cloud of my smoke. But that is it. I could care less what you smell, we all put up with smells. Lot's of things stink.

Don't want to smell the smoke in the hallway of your apartment building from the guy down in 3C that smokes?
Well I bet he doesn't want to smell your shiatty cooking every night either, but these are the joys of communal housing.
2012-12-15 09:46:38 PM  
1 votes:

ZeroPly:
No, cretin. There are no smokers in competitive speedskating, any more than there are functional alcoholics in the astronaut program. Let me say it again. NoLink smokers. Here's another one - competitive marathon: no smokers. Wait, the ideas just keep coming. My last 100km bicycle time trial? Pretty sure there were no smokers on that one either. Unless they somehow found a way to smoke while on their aero bars and their heart rate was at 90% max.

Smokers are disgusting sh*tbags. They defend their addiction as "freedom" in the same way the NAMBLA creeps enhort you to keep an open mind about sexuality.


i49.tinypic.com

heeeey there's people in the tour-de-france smoking while doing the race! and did you miss the list of olympians? here's another link related to smoking athletes: Link

dayum you're a silly little fascist! and you have no idea if your competitors smoke or not. i challenge you to ask them. :-)
2012-12-15 09:46:18 PM  
1 votes:
It's like extremely overweight people complaining about smokers at Alcoholic Anonymous meetings.
2012-12-15 09:37:03 PM  
1 votes:

steamingpile: So I should accept people smoking around me because there are worse things in the air? How about just not thinking it doesn't smell like shiat, that those around you can't smell it all the time, or that it only affects you with zero secondary effect to the rest of the public.


there is no health hazard to others when it comes to outdoor smoking, and people should be far less sensitive little snowflaky about the smell of cigarette smoke.
2012-12-15 09:35:38 PM  
1 votes:

ZeroPly: BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.


Challenge accepted. My 500m short track speedskating time this year was 57 seconds. Show me a healthy smoker out there who can outperform me.


I have no idea what the hell a 500m short track speedskating time is. But I can say that I personally knew star athletes on my high school cross country team that smoked and still competed at the state level. This was a '6a' school in Illinois (so really damn impressive).

Of course, that's nothing compared to the professional and Olympic athletes that smoke.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-ne w s/the-puff-of-legends-what-impact-does-smoking-have-on-an-athletes-per formance-8050466.html
2012-12-15 09:34:46 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: steamingpile: MurphyMurphy: But we can still smoke in the office, in airplanes and the movie theater, right?

I mean, as long as we don't go crazy with this whole thing...

Only non smokers know how bad the smell is, smokers want to act persecuted but even being around smokers puts off an odor. What I still find amazing is that smokers think they can mask the smell or that we can't tell they smell like an ashtray.

i find it amazing how much people gripe about cigarette smoke and completely gloss over other airborne contaminants that are way worse for you.


So I should accept people smoking around me because there are worse things in the air? How about just not thinking it doesn't smell like shiat, that those around you can't smell it all the time, or that it only affects you with zero secondary effect to the rest of the public.
2012-12-15 09:31:55 PM  
1 votes:
This seems like a rational extension of the law. I actually used it to break out of my lease.

The country I live in is very anti-smoking. If it's indoors and the public can enter, or you have employees, it has to be smoke free. But the buildings and the building codes are woefully out of date. I was living in a building that was built in the 1600s. It was designed to be a house, was 'converted' into apartments, and was generally a crap hole.

My neighbors would have people over, 4-5 of them smoking in a small apartment and my place was like the inside of a chimney.
2012-12-15 09:29:24 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.



Challenge accepted. My 500m short track speedskating time this year was 57 seconds. Show me a healthy smoker out there who can outperform me.
2012-12-15 09:28:38 PM  
1 votes:
I'm old enough to remember when they first banned smoking on flights less than an hour long (full disclosure I'm not a smoker).

They swore it was just for these short flights, nothing to worry about.

Now I'm sure in the next few months it will be only for 'assault' weapons and everyone will hold hands and cheer (full disclosure I'm not a gun owner).

Only 'assault' weapons, nothing to worry about.

Then, God forbid your Farking little asses, someone will want to ban first shooter video games.

Oh how I will laugh at the comments.
2012-12-15 09:28:00 PM  
1 votes:

austerity101: CrazyCurt: Meanwhile everyone living near a busy street is breathing fumes from exhaust and airborne road grime particles. This is the big conspiracy -- tobacco is an easy scapegoat to place blame for health problems actually caused by the automotive-oil-chemical cartel. Once tobacco is illegal and eradicated people will still be breathing the floating debris from millions of dirty vehicles kicking toxic dust into the atmosphere.

/ no one thinks about all of the fine road dust, road dust consisting of ALL the chemicals spilled upon said roads, that gets scattered into the air with every passing tire. I will probably be killed just for knowing about this and farking it to fark.

Vehicles serve a function in society; smoking doesn't. Furthermore, removing any harmful chemical from the equation is a step in the right direction--might as well start with the ones that are most easily removed, and the ones whose presence serves no purpose.


And vehicles and their emissions are heavily regulated.
2012-12-15 09:24:59 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: Pincy: BlippityBleep: Pincy: BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.

Get back to us when they develop lung cancer or emphysema.

tons of smokers quit before permanent effects happen.

Of course they do.

me and a lot of friends of mine smoked for a number of years and we've all quit now. we also don't judge either way if someone smokes or not. it's called minding your farking business and being good to other people.


CruJones: Think about this people, if we ban smoking, that means you can't get high when weed is finally legalized. Let's not be shortsighted.... Don't you want to be able to get high in your apartment?

Yes, you do.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you don't have to smoke marijuana in order to get high.
2012-12-15 09:24:15 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: Pincy: BlippityBleep: Pincy: BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.

Get back to us when they develop lung cancer or emphysema.

tons of smokers quit before permanent effects happen.

Of course they do.

me and a lot of friends of mine smoked for a number of years and we've all quit now. we also don't judge either way if someone smokes or not. it's called minding your farking business and being good to other people.


Congrats on successfully quitting.
2012-12-15 09:20:55 PM  
1 votes:
Think about this people, if we ban smoking, that means you can't get high when weed is finally legalized. Let's not be shortsighted.... Don't you want to be able to get high in your apartment?

Yes, you do.
2012-12-15 09:20:47 PM  
1 votes:

Pincy: BlippityBleep: Pincy: BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.

Get back to us when they develop lung cancer or emphysema.

tons of smokers quit before permanent effects happen.

Of course they do.


me and a lot of friends of mine smoked for a number of years and we've all quit now. we also don't judge either way if someone smokes or not. it's called minding your farking business and being good to other people.
2012-12-15 09:16:54 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: steamingpile: MurphyMurphy: But we can still smoke in the office, in airplanes and the movie theater, right?

I mean, as long as we don't go crazy with this whole thing...

Only non smokers know how bad the smell is, smokers want to act persecuted but even being around smokers puts off an odor. What I still find amazing is that smokers think they can mask the smell or that we can't tell they smell like an ashtray.

i find it amazing how much people gripe about cigarette smoke and completely gloss over other airborne contaminants that are way worse for you.


Ya, nobody ever complains about pollution. Keep farking that strawman though.
2012-12-15 09:16:29 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.


You know one of the things I love about smokers as a medical student? Whenever an attending doctor tries to quiz one of us by asking us what is a major risk factor of "blah blah blah disease", we can respond with "smoking cigarettes" and it will almost always be a correct answer. Smoking is a risk factor for literally every major disease: COPD, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart attacks, strokes, cancers (and not just lung cancer), etc., etc.
2012-12-15 09:11:11 PM  
1 votes:

MurphyMurphy: But we can still smoke in the office, in airplanes and the movie theater, right?

I mean, as long as we don't go crazy with this whole thing...


Only non smokers know how bad the smell is, smokers want to act persecuted but even being around smokers puts off an odor. What I still find amazing is that smokers think they can mask the smell or that we can't tell they smell like an ashtray.
2012-12-15 09:09:25 PM  
1 votes:

CrazyCurt: Meanwhile everyone living near a busy street is breathing fumes from exhaust and airborne road grime particles. This is the big conspiracy -- tobacco is an easy scapegoat to place blame for health problems actually caused by the automotive-oil-chemical cartel. Once tobacco is illegal and eradicated people will still be breathing the floating debris from millions of dirty vehicles kicking toxic dust into the atmosphere.

/ no one thinks about all of the fine road dust, road dust consisting of ALL the chemicals spilled upon said roads, that gets scattered into the air with every passing tire. I will probably be killed just for knowing about this and farking it to fark.


Vehicles serve a function in society; smoking doesn't. Furthermore, removing any harmful chemical from the equation is a step in the right direction--might as well start with the ones that are most easily removed, and the ones whose presence serves no purpose.
2012-12-15 09:05:10 PM  
1 votes:

British: BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.

This. Last I checked, drinking wasn't so great for you, but it seems favored upon on FARK.


The difference between alcohol and cigarettes is that alcohol, as horrible as its health consequences can potentially be, has largely reversible effects. A person can be an extreme alcoholic who drinks a fifth of vodka a day for years, but as long as he stops short of the point of actually causing irreversible damage (ie, cirrhosis or peripheral neuropathy), he can make the decision to quit drinking and, within 6 months to a year, his body can largely recover and return to its former state.

For smoking, on the other hand, literally every cigarette causes a little bit of irreversible lung damage that lasts a lifetime. A person who smokes and then quits will be better off than someone who continues to smoke but he will never be able to return to the same healthy state that someone who never smokes is at. This is why at clinic appointments, the doctor will never bother to ask you the total number of drinks you've ever had in your life but he/she WILL ask you to report the exact number of cigarettes you've ever smoked (they're called pack years).

/that and the fact that there's no such thing as "second hand drinking"
//unless you count drunk driving but that's a whole nother can of worms
2012-12-15 09:04:49 PM  
1 votes:
I'm supposed to step ten feet away from any residential or other unit at my apartment complex to smoke. I don't really get bothered by it, as I tend to be a courteous smoker anyway, asking others around me if they mind, even if legal. However, the state also made that the law for bars, among other places. A place near me is non-smoking indoors, but they created a heated, enclosed serving and dining area outside where smoking is invited. I miss complete choice, but I guess you gotta compromise from time to time.
2012-12-15 08:54:39 PM  
1 votes:
It's time to just quit growing tobacco and plant some other kind of weed...I've heard about this stuff that might even have medicinal benefits.

/if it were any other product killing millions each year, it would be outlawed before Boner could weep
2012-12-15 08:53:32 PM  
1 votes:

MagSeven: iheartscotch: Pretty soon there's gonna be a painted red square on the ground and that's where you'll have to smoke. But only one smoker at a time. And it costs $5 per visit.

And someone will still walk over to you in your square and pretend to cough.


Of course; it will be the sworn duty of anyone who sees someone standing in a red smoking square. How else will the smoker know how horrible, baby murdering, puppy kicking, and dumper of newborn kittens in a gunny sack into a river that they are?
2012-12-15 08:52:41 PM  
1 votes:

BlippityBleep: ZeroPly: Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?

hate to burst your weird little bubble, but there are plenty of healthy smokers out there who could physically outperform you in any category.


This. Last I checked, drinking wasn't so great for you, but it seems favored upon on FARK.
2012-12-15 08:45:44 PM  
1 votes:
Who the f*ck is stupid enough to still be smoking, yet smart enough to have any sort of opinion on a public health issue?
2012-12-15 08:45:25 PM  
1 votes:

Popcorn Johnny: I'd be okay with shooting smokers on sight, disgusting farking habit.


trollhard... a troll that tries too hard.
2012-12-15 08:40:17 PM  
1 votes:

iheartscotch: Pretty soon there's gonna be a painted red square on the ground and that's where you'll have to smoke. But only one smoker at a time. And it costs $5 per visit.


And someone will still walk over to you in your square and pretend to cough.
2012-12-15 08:37:43 PM  
1 votes:
I've been praying for this for a long time. Thank you Jesus!
2012-12-15 07:41:23 PM  
1 votes:

propasaurus: The federal government isn't prohibiting it, Troll-mitter.


No, it's the UN
2012-12-15 07:01:34 PM  
1 votes:
Sounds like a building code problem to me.
 
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