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2012-12-15 04:11:49 PM  

drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.


So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?
 
2012-12-15 04:12:16 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: I was responding in a manner to ridicule a ridiculous idea. I used hyperbole. Hell the person I responded got it, even though we disagree.


Ah. Well, in any case. I needed to get that out regardless.
 
2012-12-15 04:12:21 PM  
Lunatics need to be in a rubber room with a coat that ties in the back, not walking the streets.
 
mjg
2012-12-15 04:12:33 PM  
www.delvecchio.ca

Sometimes ...

/sad
 
2012-12-15 04:12:39 PM  

tshauk: Generation_D: tshauk: TheEdibleSnuggie: globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.

I'm convinced a lot of this insanity has something to do with the supposed end of the world being on the 21st of this month; people are going stupid.

Really..... Just this year? School shooting's have been taking place in this country since the 1700's. Not to mention all the other types of gun violence. Don't by naive, this is America, we were built by the use of firearms.

And now we're crumbling from within because of it. Hopefully we don't become Somalia or Afghanistan.

I'll agree we are crumbling, but not because of weapons in our homes, no no...that's just to simple; it's because Americans have lost any back bone and are no controlled by what the media and politicians tell them to think, and the masses drink it all up. No will power to adjust a corrupt Government. We used to be a nation FOR the people, BY the people, when was the last time you felt your Government was on YOUR side?


Oooooookay. So the guy shot kindergartners because the government is corrupt? Are the Illuminati and the Reptilians also working with the government to make the New World Order?
 
2012-12-15 04:12:51 PM  

Mark Ratner: The Mayan apocalypse has begun.


Pretty sure the Spanish had the Mayan apocalypse wrapped up by the end of 1697.
 
2012-12-15 04:12:54 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?


Probably the same individuals who ignore federal law that prohibits usage of marijuana, despite what state law says.
 
2012-12-15 04:12:55 PM  

HindiDiscoMonster: Dinki: ToxicMunkee: Arm all the doctors and nurses, stat!

You are thinking too small. Everybody over the age of 18 15 12 needs to be armed, all the time. It's the only way to insure that we are safe.

wasn't the tradition in the old west something like 8 or 9 for a father to start teaching his son how to shoot (with a .22 or something similar)?


Not sure about the "old" west. Dad started me shooting at 4. Gave me a .22 when I turned 7 and a 12 gauge when I turned 13. Both of them hold places of honor in the gun safe to this day.

/born in 68. Does that qualify as Old West?
//if so, off my lawn.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:00 PM  
Family dispute, has nothing to do with the other murders.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:06 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?


Catch-22 was such a good movie. Didn't they make a book out of that?
 
2012-12-15 04:13:15 PM  
Here is a modest proposal that I'm actually kind of liking - http://moproposal.blogspot.com/2012/12/121512-i-am-extraordinarily-ang ry-and.html

1. Firearms remain legal. But, they must be larger than a grown man's arm, so that they cannot be concealed. They must also be day-glo orange, so that they are unmistakably guns. Whoever carries their gun must wear a day-glo orange hat that says, CARRYING A GUN on it. Hunters will not have to change their behavior or (with the exception of painting their guns) their outfits in any real way. Failure to adhere to this law will result in 20 years in prison, no exceptions.

2. Any entertainment (TV, Movies, Video Games, Books, etc.) that feature gun-play will be subject to a tax of 20% of the producers' profits. Producers can still make blood-soaked entertainment, understanding that their profits will be reduced.

3. The press can only publish the names or biographies of mass killers by paying a 20% tax on their organization's profits for the year. To avoid the tax, mass killers can be denoted by an alias ("A-hole #4", for example), insuring that slaughter is not an easy road to fame. Any news organization will also be fined $200,000.00 every time they ask a victim of senseless violence "how they feel". They fine doubles if a minor is asked that inane question (We can guess how they feel on our own, thanks).
 
2012-12-15 04:13:16 PM  

John Dewey: globalwarmingpraiser: Most gun owners consider their guns like insurance. Something that they never need.

I'm don't doubt that's what Nancy Lanza thought. She probably even taught her kids responsible ownership and respect for the guns. Maybe even took them to the range.

I know that's what I thought until yesterday.


We can no more legislate away risk than we can legislate away hate, evil, or crazy. You want backing on better psych care, hey I am with you. You want better background checks, I am on your side. But when an honor student wants to kill a lot of people, I am sure that he will be able to. A few household cleaners and a plan would do it. And it would be even more gruesome.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:20 PM  

KiwDaWabbit: DoomPaul: Surely it's fine to give up some liberty in exchange for security.

Where does someone else's liberty to carry firearms end and my liberty not to get shot start?


When the gun nuts tell you its OK to keep living in their country, obviously.

Or, when the rest of the world tells the USA to cut out the crap.

We're 6% of the worlds population, and the world doesn't have gun laws even close to ours.

With immigration like it is, with more and more people growing up in fear of gun nuts and gun nut demands for violence, I have no doubt eventually we will outlaw guns, or at the least, bring back "Well-Regulated" militias.

Not this crap we have now, a bunch of dufuses with minor arsenals thinking they're more secure, then acting amazed and shocked (or increasingly, defensive and angry) when their failed philosophy results in Yet Another Massacre.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:32 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?


Enough to give us about fifteen Ruby Ridge-style incidents a month, yeah.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:42 PM  

tshauk: TheEdibleSnuggie: globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.

I'm convinced a lot of this insanity has something to do with the supposed end of the world being on the 21st of this month; people are going stupid.

Really..... Just this year? School shooting's have been taking place in this country since the 1700's. Not to mention all the other types of gun violence. Don't by naive, this is America, we were built by the use of firearms.


Ok, I'm going to have to explain this to you...

No, I'm not surprised by school shootings, or gun violence-- period. I know it happens, I know it's in our culture, and that's not what I'm referring to. However, this recent uptick in people going completely off the deep end with the gun violence this year; this month? Like bozos walking into a school full of children and opening fire? Or this guy who walks into a hospital and takes out 2 - 3 people? Yeah, I'm going to attribute that to all this ridiculous hysteria concerning the 'end of the world.'

You're talking about people who have nothing to lose, and probably figure the world is going to end in a week- so fark it.
 
2012-12-15 04:13:49 PM  
This Nick Meli fellow (one of those mystical concealed carry heroes) is popping up as "something you'll never hear from the liberal media." I think it's more of a "this guy is possibly a full of shiat attention whore" issue but was wondering if anybody had another take.
 
2012-12-15 04:14:23 PM  

mr lawson: cameroncrazy1984: How do you think the US military secures a country?

superior fire-power?


Also, organization and training

But logistically and reasonably, nobody's going to take your guns. The UK government didn't do it in 1997 and if the US tightens restricitions similarly, we won't do it either.
 
2012-12-15 04:15:08 PM  
Dimensio
In this incident, the problem was clearly with access by an unstable individual, not ability for an unstable individual to purchase. A reasonable means of addressing this situation -- beyond examining the overall state of mental health care and treatment in the United States of America -- is consideration of firearms storage (or even presence) when a mentally ill individual lives in the residence.

I do know that individuals may be arrested for storing firearms in homes in which a convicted felon resides, even if the owner of the firearms is not a prohibited person. How this law currently applies to mentally unstable individuals, however, I do not know.


What would you think of a state law imposing liability on a gun owner if the gun is used by another person to commit a non-justifiable homicide (and was not stolen)? That would put the onus on the gun owner to take steps to secure the gun from being used by another person.
 
2012-12-15 04:15:14 PM  

The_Sponge: KNOCK IT OFF!


captainmaxthedestroyer: THIS HAS TO STOP NOW


Shrugging Atlas: ENOUGH


You're right - ban the Caps Lock!
 
2012-12-15 04:15:40 PM  

Generation_D: John Dewey: Why am I the one having to justify not owning killing devices? Shouldn't the gun owners have to justify their need to own? Talk about backwards land.

I'm fully in favor of removing the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution. Outdated crap that holds us back, makes us the slow kid in the world.



I think the 2nd amendment can be replaced. 38 out of 50 states are required. Gun nuts are a minority, and tragedies like these are almost universally dismayed.

I don't think the writers of the constitution envisioned mass produced semiautomatic handguns and the social ills they create when that amendment was written.

Let's replace the 2nd amendment with something less vague. I think there are certainly legitimate uses for private ownership of guns - wildlife land management and hunting - with manually loaded long guns. But man-killing handguns, especially semi-autos, should be tightly regulated and the replacement amendment should make it clear the government has the right to do so.

The difficult question is what to do with the millions of guns and accessories out there, and the culture surrounding them. For that, I propose that as a society, gun nuttery and the violence fetishization becomes as socially unacceptable as racism or homophobia. We don't have to support this.
 
2012-12-15 04:15:57 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?


I suspect that many firearm owners would wait until the Supreme Court of the United States ruled upon the validity of the confiscation order.
 
2012-12-15 04:15:58 PM  

NotoriousFire: Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?

Probably the same individuals who ignore federal law that prohibits usage of marijuana, despite what state law says.


Why do you think those are the same individuals?

Are you really this intellectually bankrupt? If so, its ignore list time
 
2012-12-15 04:16:15 PM  

Skyd1v: HindiDiscoMonster: Dinki: ToxicMunkee: Arm all the doctors and nurses, stat!

You are thinking too small. Everybody over the age of 18 15 12 needs to be armed, all the time. It's the only way to insure that we are safe.

wasn't the tradition in the old west something like 8 or 9 for a father to start teaching his son how to shoot (with a .22 or something similar)?

Not sure about the "old" west. Dad started me shooting at 4. Gave me a .22 when I turned 7 and a 12 gauge when I turned 13. Both of them hold places of honor in the gun safe to this day.

/born in 68. Does that qualify as Old West?
//if so, off my lawn.


Same here I was born in 77. Started off on my grandpas 22. Then bumped up to shotguns a few years later. My niece and nephew have as well. Both born in the late 90's and now shot three generations of guns.
 
2012-12-15 04:16:16 PM  

John Dewey: zippolight2002: Keeping YOUR guns unlocked, is NOT responsible.

Do we know that's what she did?

But do you not see the fallacy/slipper slope here?

As the details come out I foresee gun owners falling into a false sense of security, "Well obviously if she'd just ___________ then this wouldn't have happened. I know I don't __________ so it won't happen to me and mine"

When will we eventually run out of ___________'s?


Hey, if it turns out she didn't lock her guns up like she was supposed to. Maybe it'll wake up other gun-owners that do the same.
 
2012-12-15 04:16:21 PM  
To the people that think the military would just follow orders and go around confiscating guns, you really do think our military would turn on their own countrymen, their friends, their neighbors, like they would going house to house in a foreign land?

I don't believe for a minute they would. I know we've pretty much gutted the 4th after 9/11, but I don't think house to house weapons seizures would go over well, unless you want to get rid of the 4th when you repeal the 2nd.

/Will never happen
//Lets start treating crazy people..which is something all of those gun-free countries also do very well
 
2012-12-15 04:16:25 PM  

Fellate O'Fish: What would you think of a state law imposing liability on a gun owner if the gun is used by another person to commit a non-justifiable homicide (and was not stolen)? That would put the onus on the gun owner to take steps to secure the gun from being used by another person.


This actually makes sense. I'd vote for this in a second.
 
2012-12-15 04:16:45 PM  

Fellate O'Fish: Dimensio
In this incident, the problem was clearly with access by an unstable individual, not ability for an unstable individual to purchase. A reasonable means of addressing this situation -- beyond examining the overall state of mental health care and treatment in the United States of America -- is consideration of firearms storage (or even presence) when a mentally ill individual lives in the residence.

I do know that individuals may be arrested for storing firearms in homes in which a convicted felon resides, even if the owner of the firearms is not a prohibited person. How this law currently applies to mentally unstable individuals, however, I do not know.

What would you think of a state law imposing liability on a gun owner if the gun is used by another person to commit a non-justifiable homicide (and was not stolen)? That would put the onus on the gun owner to take steps to secure the gun from being used by another person.


I agree something needs to be done, but I draw the line at holding other people responsible for something they did not physically do.
 
2012-12-15 04:17:20 PM  

NotoriousFire: Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?

Probably the same individuals who ignore federal law that prohibits usage of marijuana, despite what state law says.


All US citizens obey every law all the time.

i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-12-15 04:17:32 PM  

Generation_D: Psychos with guns. Freely gotten because gun nuts demanded it.


Psychos are the problem. Lock 'em up, get them help, hell... tag and release. Do what it takes to remove them from out society. Only then will the mass shootings end.
/plus get the media to quit going gaga when they happen. Don't encourage them.
 
2012-12-15 04:18:03 PM  
Can we get a flashing Dumbass tag?
 
2012-12-15 04:18:04 PM  

John Dewey: Here is a modest proposal that I'm actually kind of liking - http://moproposal.blogspot.com/2012/12/121512-i-am-extraordinarily-ang ry-and.html

1. Firearms remain legal. But, they must be larger than a grown man's arm, so that they cannot be concealed. They must also be day-glo orange, so that they are unmistakably guns. Whoever carries their gun must wear a day-glo orange hat that says, CARRYING A GUN on it. Hunters will not have to change their behavior or (with the exception of painting their guns) their outfits in any real way. Failure to adhere to this law will result in 20 years in prison, no exceptions.

2. Any entertainment (TV, Movies, Video Games, Books, etc.) that feature gun-play will be subject to a tax of 20% of the producers' profits. Producers can still make blood-soaked entertainment, understanding that their profits will be reduced.

3. The press can only publish the names or biographies of mass killers by paying a 20% tax on their organization's profits for the year. To avoid the tax, mass killers can be denoted by an alias ("A-hole #4", for example), insuring that slaughter is not an easy road to fame. Any news organization will also be fined $200,000.00 every time they ask a victim of senseless violence "how they feel". They fine doubles if a minor is asked that inane question (We can guess how they feel on our own, thanks).


Those are some of the most pants-on-head retarded ideas I have ever read. I fail to see how #2 and #3 would have any impact whatsoever on gun violence and #1 would be ignored entirely by anyone set on carnage because hey, what does the sentence for carrying a gun matter when you're planning on mass murder anyhow?

Seriously. That's some dumb sh*t right there.
 
2012-12-15 04:18:29 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: tshauk: Generation_D: tshauk: TheEdibleSnuggie: globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.

I'm convinced a lot of this insanity has something to do with the supposed end of the world being on the 21st of this month; people are going stupid.

Really..... Just this year? School shooting's have been taking place in this country since the 1700's. Not to mention all the other types of gun violence. Don't by naive, this is America, we were built by the use of firearms.

And now we're crumbling from within because of it. Hopefully we don't become Somalia or Afghanistan.

I'll agree we are crumbling, but not because of weapons in our homes, no no...that's just to simple; it's because Americans have lost any back bone and are no controlled by what the media and politicians tell them to think, and the masses drink it all up. No will power to adjust a corrupt Government. We used to be a nation FOR the people, BY the people, when was the last time you felt your Government was on YOUR side?

Oooooookay. So the guy shot kindergartners because the government is corrupt? Are the Illuminati and the Reptilians also working with the government to make the New World Order?


Don't get side tracked by stupidity: I'm not talking about the horrible incident yesterday. It's the larger debate, don't take my guns until we have built a more representative Government, then I will gladly hand them over.
 
2012-12-15 04:18:35 PM  

zippolight2002: John Dewey: zippolight2002: Keeping YOUR guns unlocked, is NOT responsible.

Do we know that's what she did?

But do you not see the fallacy/slipper slope here?

As the details come out I foresee gun owners falling into a false sense of security, "Well obviously if she'd just ___________ then this wouldn't have happened. I know I don't __________ so it won't happen to me and mine"

When will we eventually run out of ___________'s?

Hey, if it turns out she didn't lock her guns up like she was supposed to. Maybe it'll wake up other gun-owners that NOT do the same.


ftfm
 
2012-12-15 04:18:36 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
Don Letts RIP
 
2012-12-15 04:19:11 PM  

zippolight2002: zippolight2002: John Dewey: zippolight2002: Keeping YOUR guns unlocked, is NOT responsible.

Do we know that's what she did?

But do you not see the fallacy/slipper slope here?

As the details come out I foresee gun owners falling into a false sense of security, "Well obviously if she'd just ___________ then this wouldn't have happened. I know I don't __________ so it won't happen to me and mine"

When will we eventually run out of ___________'s?

Hey, if it turns out she didn't lock her guns up like she was supposed to. Maybe it'll wake up other gun-owners that NOT do the same.

ftfm


Screwed it up again, nvm.
 
2012-12-15 04:19:17 PM  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: This Nick Meli fellow (one of those mystical concealed carry heroes) is popping up as "something you'll never hear from the liberal media." I think it's more of a "this guy is possibly a full of shiat attention whore" issue but was wondering if anybody had another take.


The funny part is it only defeats the argument that the rambo fantacists have, that more guns would lead to less shootings. Its nearly impossible for a civilian to identify the actual threat and make a smart decision. He didn't stop it, all he did was risk more lives by pulling out his weapon.
 
2012-12-15 04:19:37 PM  
If you think censoring the name of spree shooters will stop spree shooters, you have failed to think from the perspective of spree shooters. If you insist that they are doing it for fame, I think there is a lot more allure to being known as "He Who Should Not Be Named."

Or maybe these people are not monsters. Maybe they really are just sick, and sick in a way that could afflict yourself or your loved ones. Nobody is so far removed from an undiagnosed psychosis that they can truly say they would never do this. It isn't about them vs. us and that we need to weed out the them. By all means though, keep bloviating about how you are above this monster by describing in detail how you'd dismember him slowly.
 
2012-12-15 04:20:02 PM  

A Shambling Mound: Mark Ratner: The Mayan apocalypse has begun.

Pretty sure the Spanish had the Mayan apocalypse wrapped up by the end of 1697.


+1..you know what I meant, smartass
 
2012-12-15 04:20:24 PM  

John Dewey: Here is a modest proposal that I'm actually kind of liking - http://moproposal.blogspot.com/2012/12/121512-i-am-extraordinarily-ang ry-and.html

1. Firearms remain legal. But, they must be larger than a grown man's arm, so that they cannot be concealed. They must also be day-glo orange, so that they are unmistakably guns. Whoever carries their gun must wear a day-glo orange hat that says, CARRYING A GUN on it. Hunters will not have to change their behavior or (with the exception of painting their guns) their outfits in any real way. Failure to adhere to this law will result in 20 years in prison, no exceptions.

2. Any entertainment (TV, Movies, Video Games, Books, etc.) that feature gun-play will be subject to a tax of 20% of the producers' profits. Producers can still make blood-soaked entertainment, understanding that their profits will be reduced.

3. The press can only publish the names or biographies of mass killers by paying a 20% tax on their organization's profits for the year. To avoid the tax, mass killers can be denoted by an alias ("A-hole #4", for example), insuring that slaughter is not an easy road to fame. Any news organization will also be fined $200,000.00 every time they ask a victim of senseless violence "how they feel". They fine doubles if a minor is asked that inane question (We can guess how they feel on our own, thanks).


no problem with this at all.
 
2012-12-15 04:20:35 PM  

DoomPaul: Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

[i45.tinypic.com image 539x539]

Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.

[i48.tinypic.com image 659x819]


The problem is Japan and Switzerland can not be compared to the US and Mexico. They are both extremely disciplined by nature, where as Americans and Mexicans are not.
 
2012-12-15 04:20:46 PM  

mr lawson: Generation_D: Psychos with guns. Freely gotten because gun nuts demanded it.

Psychos are the problem. Lock 'em up, get them help, hell... tag and release. Do what it takes to remove them from out society. Only then will the mass shootings end.
/plus get the media to quit going gaga when they happen. Don't encourage them.


Like i said, we're locking you up. You're fine with that? We've deemed you a psycho
 
2012-12-15 04:21:10 PM  

Schroedinger's Glory Hole: If you think censoring the name of spree shooters will stop spree shooters, you have failed to think from the perspective of spree shooters. If you insist that they are doing it for fame, I think there is a lot more allure to being known as "He Who Should Not Be Named."


Agreed, part of that whole "Anonymous" allure that spurs kiddie hackers into the lifestyle.
 
2012-12-15 04:21:37 PM  

Molavian: Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

[i45.tinypic.com image 539x539]

Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.

The only western country the same size as ours is Australia AND CANADA, and the population density isn't there. Neither are the demographics.


but I digress...
 
2012-12-15 04:22:24 PM  
no one else amazed that the queens husband, Prince Philip, hasn't made a reference connecting shooting people to a cricket match.

and yes he has done that....
 
2012-12-15 04:23:14 PM  

Mark Ratner: A Shambling Mound: Mark Ratner: The Mayan apocalypse has begun.

Pretty sure the Spanish had the Mayan apocalypse wrapped up by the end of 1697.

+1..you know what I meant, smartass


Why yes. Yes, I did. :)
 
2012-12-15 04:23:17 PM  

Fellate O'Fish: Dimensio
In this incident, the problem was clearly with access by an unstable individual, not ability for an unstable individual to purchase. A reasonable means of addressing this situation -- beyond examining the overall state of mental health care and treatment in the United States of America -- is consideration of firearms storage (or even presence) when a mentally ill individual lives in the residence.

I do know that individuals may be arrested for storing firearms in homes in which a convicted felon resides, even if the owner of the firearms is not a prohibited person. How this law currently applies to mentally unstable individuals, however, I do not know.

What would you think of a state law imposing liability on a gun owner if the gun is used by another person to commit a non-justifiable homicide (and was not stolen)? That would put the onus on the gun owner to take steps to secure the gun from being used by another person.


I could only support such a measure if the law required "reasonable" measures (with actual "reasonable" measures defined) that, if followed, would absolve a firearm owner of liability. A firearm owner whose firearms are stolen despite taking reasonable measures to secure his or her firearms should suffer no liability for the actions of criminals.
 
2012-12-15 04:23:56 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: drewogatory: The Ca. national guard is approx 22k strong. There are 12 million households in California. Good luck with that house to house confiscation.

So you think most registered gun owners would ignore laws to turn in their weapons after being given notice to do so?


Without fair compensation? Alot. I'd wager a very large number of folks would hide them and hope the law was struck down at a later date rather than lose tens of thousands of dollars with no compensation. Or choose to sell them on the black market when the value inevitably skyrockets. And America has a far,far more entrenched and sophisticated gun culture than any of the other countries you've mentioned, to think that you can somehow uninvent the wheel is absurd.
 
2012-12-15 04:24:18 PM  
I bet guns evolve out of American culture, if it survives, in under 100 years.

Enjoy your freedoms to shoot everything you want now.
 
2012-12-15 04:24:57 PM  

buzzcut73: To the people that think the military would just follow orders and go around confiscating guns, you really do think our military would turn on their own countrymen, their friends, their neighbors, like they would going house to house in a foreign land?

I don't believe for a minute they would. I know we've pretty much gutted the 4th after 9/11, but I don't think house to house weapons seizures would go over well, unless you want to get rid of the 4th when you repeal the 2nd.

/Will never happen
//Lets start treating crazy people..which is something all of those gun-free countries also do very well



In a rational discussion, confiscations are plain unnecessary as much as they are impractical and ill-advised. Better to tackle the social issues that lead to the fetishization of weapons, make purchasing new weapons more difficult, and perhaps a well funded buyback program for guns and accessories.
 
2012-12-15 04:25:14 PM  

saturn badger: flucto: MaudlinMutantMollusk: becoming numb to it

I'm not becoming numb, I'm becoming angry. Something must change. Also, F*CK the NRA.

When was the last time you saw a NRA member shoot someone?


Dick Cheney?
 
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