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2012-12-15 03:26:48 PM  

Ed Finnerty: coco ebert: ARM THE COMA PATIENTS

Too late - someone gave the guns to the Parkinson's wing.

DUCK!


I love hate love you for making me laugh at that.
 
2012-12-15 03:26:50 PM  
Will someone please think of the mass shootings...oic..you are...nvm then.
 
2012-12-15 03:27:02 PM  

ElLoco: Amen. I've been saying the same thing about several of the Amendments in the Bill of Rights. They're all outdated and don't fit in with today's society.


Which ones?
 
2012-12-15 03:27:11 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: BSABSVR: Wouldn't a copycat shooting have something do with the first shooting, dumbfark?

Wouldn't walking into a place and shooting a people be the same farking thing, no matter if it's a mall, school or hospital?


Then every shooting is a copycat shooting of the first shooting ever? Please tell me you are not that stupid.
 
2012-12-15 03:27:24 PM  

lewismarktwo: Shrugging Atlas: ENOUGH

Oh shiat, he centered it! It's on now!


Its part of a standard I follow:

Bold, Center, Italics for schools
Center for hospitals
Bold for places of worship
Italics for random shopping centers
lolcats for NRA meetings
 
2012-12-15 03:27:25 PM  
I realize that I won't outshout the internet tough guy gun rights brigade. Thats not the point.

A whole lot of us out here think you guys are idiots, and I bet I live to see the day you all are outvoted.

Its happened before, it'll happen again. Gun Rights is just a sh*tty 220 year old thought on a piece of paper. The Fourth Amendment has been trashed by modern interpretation, the First Amendment is in tatters compared to its meaning back when it was written. The Second Amendment actually had a good reason for being, but it doesn't any more. Tyranny is not overthrown by your home collection of weapons. However, many innocent people quite often could be.

I'm fed up with it, I suspect many others are too.
 
2012-12-15 03:27:36 PM  
John Dewey: What do you think Nancy Lanza owned guns?

because she was a farking idiot who took her clearly mentally disturbed son to the range.


And anyone who currently own guns and continue to purchase guns is doing the same.

Again, zero sense.
 
2012-12-15 03:27:57 PM  

ShuyaNanahara: globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.

The last night of Hanukkah always gets people riled up. This is the obvious outcome when someone loses all of their chocolate coins in a high-stakes game of dreidel.


And also you. Bravo, you wacky farker, and thanks for putting the farking fun back in my fark.
 
2012-12-15 03:28:02 PM  

Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

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Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.


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2012-12-15 03:28:10 PM  

BSABSVR: Then every shooting is a copycat shooting of the first shooting ever? Please tell me you are not that stupid.


Please tell me you're not stupid enough to see the similarities.
 
2012-12-15 03:28:21 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.


I'm convinced a lot of this insanity has something to do with the supposed end of the world being on the 21st of this month; people are going stupid.
 
2012-12-15 03:28:29 PM  
So 'any asshat can take these evil inanimate guns and kill bajillions of people, but THERE'S NO WAY an armed civilian could manage to take out the murdering asshat because that shiat is too hard and only trained pros can do that'

The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
 
2012-12-15 03:28:38 PM  

globalwarmingpraiser: This year has been crazy. WTF is wrong with people.


It's the year of the dragon. Apparently, everyone is acting like they are riding it.
 
2012-12-15 03:29:12 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Generation_D: IDK. They said gays would never marry, they said pot would never be legalized. They said smoking would never be outlawed in bars.
Ah yes, the 11th, 12th and 13th amendments in the Bill of Rights... Most people don't know about those.

A whole lot of sh*t they say that eventually happens.

I have zero emotional connection to needing to own a gun. The ople that own guns and brag about it always seem like internet tough guys who are compensating. I know there are literally millions of people in Westernized countries worldwide who somehow manage to go through their happy productive lives without owning a gun.
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American Exceptionalism is useful until it starts killing more Americans than it saves. Then it needs to evolve.

Europeans somehow live their lives without the need to shoot at things to feel fulfilled or feel defended.

I don't see why we're so special, other than our violent past. Which lately, seems to also be our violent present.

Look, if you want to increase gun control, change the constitution.


That is literally what it would take. The Constitution's been amended many times throughout history. I am wondering when the tipping point on it being amended to fix the 2nd Amendment will be, if it will be.

Lots of angry gun owners. You all need to chill the eff out. The world doesn't agree with you, and probably only about a 60/40 majority in America even agrees with you.

You are the minority, clinging to outmoded solutions to modern problems.
 
2012-12-15 03:29:19 PM  

Generation_D: We outlaw lots of behavior on account of the minority that abuses it.


And you are okay with this? You were just commenting above on legalizing pot, which I agree with, but it can be abused by a tiny minority.
 
2012-12-15 03:29:30 PM  
Yeah. Sure. Mexico has low gun availability. You just keep thinking that.
 
2012-12-15 03:29:44 PM  

Generation_D: Happy 221st Birthday Second Amendment. God Bless well-regulated militias everywhere.

You know, the bill of rights is just a piece of paper. If enough of us think gun ownership is too stupid to handle, with too many negative consequences, for too many people, we could amend it. Been done before.


Paramedics responding to the scene found nearly 1,000 injured people.

/window seat
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-12-15 03:29:55 PM  
This was bound to happen since we've systematically removed Mike Huckleberry's God™ from all the hospitals.
 
2012-12-15 03:30:07 PM  
There's something wrong with this country. I don't hate guns and wish to see them banned and chucked in the ocean, so please don't take this as some kind of TAKE ALL THE GUNS!! commentary. It's not. That doesn't mean I don't think there needs to be tighter controls on who can and cannot get their hands on them, though. That's not really what I think needs to be focused on in the immediate short-term, what needs to be addressed is mental health care. Not every jackass who goes shooting up a school or mall or hospital or church is mentally disturbed, but the great majority are. Rather than immediately clanging the "BAN THE GUNS!!!" bell, I think we need to do more to treat the causes of what makes these people go unhinged and shoot up public areas. Guns, by themselves, are not dangerous. It's the person using the gun and the reasons they're using it that make it dangerous. If we help mentally disturbed people get the help they desperately need, they will be less likely to get their hands on a firearm and use it on other people. They may take themselves out, which is in and of itself a tragedy, but at least it won't be compounded with the fact they took 20 other people with them.
 
2012-12-15 03:30:37 PM  

ultraholland: John Dewey: What do you think Nancy Lanza owned guns?

because she was a farking idiot who took her clearly mentally disturbed son to the range.


And anyone who currently own guns and continue to purchase guns is doing the same.

Again, zero sense.


You can never have 100% control over how a gun you own is used. Period. So by owning it/possessing it you are putting others at risk. The more guns there are in society, the higher the risk of being shot for individual members of that society. So whatever your reasons are for owning a gun, they are selfish ones. You are putting your own safety/pleasure above the needs of other innocent members of your society.

Gun ownership=selfishness.
 
2012-12-15 03:30:39 PM  

Gosling: Yeah. Sure. Mexico has low gun availability. You just keep thinking that.


You think if we outlaw guns in the US, that gun availability would decrease? Ha! Yeah right...
 
2012-12-15 03:30:43 PM  

DoomPaul: Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

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Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.

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Apples to Bananas. Typical gun nut crap.

You took "violent assaults" and are comparing them to "shootings."

Violence in countries is not the same. If anything, its an argument for fewer guns.

Less deaths from a fistfight than a shootout.
 
2012-12-15 03:30:47 PM  

Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

[i45.tinypic.com image 539x539]

Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.


The only western country the same size as ours is Australia, and the population density isn't there. Neither are the demographics.
 
2012-12-15 03:30:58 PM  

Gosling: Yeah. Sure. Mexico has low gun availability. You just keep thinking that.


And the cartels buy theirs through our lax gun laws.
 
2012-12-15 03:31:11 PM  

Generation_D: The world doesn't agree with you, and probably only about a 60/40 majority in America even agrees with you.


No, you move.
 
2012-12-15 03:31:52 PM  
Hardly a copycat if it happens on an almost daily basis anyway. The idea of gun control in America is screwed at this point, because there are too many guns and too many nuts out there to control. All that can be done now is have armed security at every soft target to minimize the killing sprees that are pretty much inevitible in a gun-saturated society.
 
2012-12-15 03:31:56 PM  
 
2012-12-15 03:32:29 PM  

Ed Finnerty: Dingleberry Dickwad: [jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com image 300x391] 

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Ed Finnerty: Dingleberry Dickwad: [jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com image 300x391] 

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Ok, I giggled.

/Window seat please.
 
2012-12-15 03:32:31 PM  

tricycleracer: Different subject, same topic.


The Onion has been sadly prophetic.
 
2012-12-15 03:32:51 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Dancin_In_Anson: cameroncrazy1984: Yes. Because who knows who else he would've shot.

And had the same happened with the cop, would he have been a dumbass cop? Since we're dealing in the land of what ifs and all.

Yes. See, I have this weird thing wherein I trust people with formal training more than nuts. But hey, that's just me.


Many residents of the city of New York believe the same.
 
2012-12-15 03:32:56 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

What would the average number of people killed in mass shootings be if nobody had guns?


Yeah, what if nobody had guns, man?
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2012-12-15 03:33:07 PM  

cochlear: someone on Freepers this morning suggested that the media should NOT BE ALLOWED to report on these shootings, as it encourages copycats, and riles up the population. They are more than happy to squash the 1st amendment, to keep what they think are their 2nd amendment 'rights'.


They have the right idea, just the wrong emphasis. The media shouldn't be reporting on these incidents with such gusto and enthusiasm, taking a full day to dissect each killer's motives and life history, interviewing the survivors and families as if it was some kind of national event. There is no reason we should be seeing "BREAKING NEWS!!!" on even such a tragic story 14 hours after the event has happened on major news outlets like CNN and MSNBC with serious-looking talking heads advising us on how to discuss this with our children and signs of delayed trauma to be alert for; and potential warning signs of mental illness in older teens and all the rest. Nor should we have rehashings of every single major shooting any time another one happens (as I'm sure we'll get over the next week), or excited reporters comparing this killer to past killers, or breathless newscasters telling us "Another shooting in the news today as X people are injured/killed in an incident eerily similar to last week's deadly spree".

It is way past time that the media--TV, radio, print and internet--acknowledged their role in the rise in these incidents; in their presence in the public consciousness, their presence in the minds of psychopaths and psychotics, and the degree to which they've become entertainment in the minds of the average person. And the media's contribution to what some refer to as "gun culture." It's so exciting to have live car chases that end in death, live shots of scared kids being herded out of schools, live scenes of SWAT teams storming buildings--but these aren't fiction, they're real, and the news shows should remember that. They should no more be allowed to hide behind the 1st Amendment than gun owners should be allowed to hide behind the 2d when things like this happen.
 
2012-12-15 03:33:20 PM  

John Dewey:

You can never have 100% control over how a car you own is used. Period. So by owning it/possessing it you are putting others at risk. The more cars there are in society, the higher the risk of being injured for individual members of that society. So whatever your reasons are for owning a car , they are selfish ones. You are putting your own safety/pleasure above the needs of other innocent members of your society.

Car ownership=selfishness.


Surrender your car citizen!
 
2012-12-15 03:33:21 PM  
It would be nice to have a combo breaker tomorrow
 
2012-12-15 03:33:24 PM  
John Dewey: You can never have 100% control over how a gun you own is used. Period. So by owning it/possessing it you are putting others at risk. The more guns there are in society, the higher the risk of being shot for individual members of that society. So whatever your reasons are for owning a gun, they are selfish ones. You are putting your own safety/pleasure above the needs of other innocent members of your society.

The same could be said about personal vehicles. Your argument does nothing to address violent crime.
 
2012-12-15 03:33:24 PM  
thismodernworld.com
 
2012-12-15 03:33:25 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Look, if you want to increase gun control, change the constitution.


Why? It says a right to bear arms, not which ones. The Supreme Court has already rules that such limits are constitutional. Just need to add Handguns and assault rifles to the NFA, amking them title II weapons
 
2012-12-15 03:33:45 PM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: Generation_D: IDK. They said gays would never marry, they said pot would never be legalized. They said smoking would never be outlawed in bars.
Ah yes, the 11th, 12th and 13th amendments in the Bill of Rights... Most people don't know about those.

A whole lot of sh*t they say that eventually happens.

I have zero emotional connection to needing to own a gun. The ople that own guns and brag about it always seem like internet tough guys who are compensating. I know there are literally millions of people in Westernized countries worldwide who somehow manage to go through their happy productive lives without owning a gun.
\
American Exceptionalism is useful until it starts killing more Americans than it saves. Then it needs to evolve.

Europeans somehow live their lives without the need to shoot at things to feel fulfilled or feel defended.

I don't see why we're so special, other than our violent past. Which lately, seems to also be our violent present.

Look, if you want to increase gun control, change the constitution.


We are going to. Then we're going to use that argument against you, and you don't get to make a sound about it.

Conservatives won't have presidental power again anytime soon, and we're going to replace Thomas, Alito, possibly more with liberals who will override their previous ruling on guns.

Its only a matter of time, deal with it.
 
2012-12-15 03:33:58 PM  

camaroash: I rarely hear mention of "I can't get a gun so I'll build a bomb" scenarios.

Explosives and triggers are incredibly easy to make in advance from very benign materials.

Tack an extra zero on the end of body counts. Scary.

Fix the people and they won't do evil shiat.


It's one hell of a leap of logic when an argument against limiting gun sales is the crazies will just build bombs instead. I'm pretty sure if they wanted to blow shiat up they would just blow shiat up. I doubt access to a 9mm pistol is the bulwark protecting society from mass bombings.
 
2012-12-15 03:34:02 PM  
Maybe the shadow government is beaming crazy waves into people's brains that make them go all bonkers and shoot everyone up.

Then, after enough mass shootings occur, the government will disarm everyone at the public's behest.

Then, after we're all disarmed, the government will make it's totalitarian NWO move and we won't be able to fight back.

It makes perfect sense!

/got nothin'
//have no idea why these things are happening
///may evil no longer antagonize those already suffering
 
2012-12-15 03:34:05 PM  

phenn: shower_in_my_socks: NotoriousFire: So how far will outlawing guns really go towards stopping anything?


You realize that yesterday a man in China stabbed 22 school children and NONE OF THEM DIED, right?

You might have missed the point. He still tried to harm or kill them. Doesn't matter what he did it with. There was something intrinsically WRONG with the farker. Wrong with HIM.

It doesn't mean all people who own knives are going to try stabbing a bunch of children.

You cannot punish the whole of society because there are crazies in the world. That just doesn't make any sense.


Reality: non-gun massacres result in fewer deaths; still happen

Solution: don't bother restricting guns or making it harder to buy one or do anything to change the glorification of gun culture, because it won't solve the problem 100%

Do people realize how stupid those arguments sound? Addressing the gun nut culture through laws and other means won't make the issue go away, but it will help.
 
2012-12-15 03:35:19 PM  
Besides, I don't know of any place outside of soccer that feels the need to separate out the UK's various components. Scotland is not a country. And

Really, I should have stopped reading after the 'Mexico has low gun availability' part. The whole damn thing just sticks its head in the sand more than a Romney campaign staffer.
 
2012-12-15 03:35:20 PM  
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2012-12-15 03:35:20 PM  

Someothermonkey: phenn: shower_in_my_socks: NotoriousFire: So how far will outlawing guns really go towards stopping anything?


You realize that yesterday a man in China stabbed 22 school children and NONE OF THEM DIED, right?

You might have missed the point. He still tried to harm or kill them. Doesn't matter what he did it with. There was something intrinsically WRONG with the farker. Wrong with HIM.

It doesn't mean all people who own knives are going to try stabbing a bunch of children.

You cannot punish the whole of society because there are crazies in the world. That just doesn't make any sense.

Reality: non-gun massacres result in fewer deaths; still happen

Solution: don't bother restricting guns or making it harder to buy one or do anything to change the glorification of gun culture, because it won't solve the problem 100%

Do people realize how stupid those arguments sound? Addressing the gun nut culture through laws and other means won't make the issue go away, but it will help.


You are confusing the absence of useless firearm restrictions with the absence of any action at all.
 
2012-12-15 03:35:47 PM  
PlatypusPuke: Then, after enough mass shootings occur, the government will disarm everyone at the public's behest.

Obama engineered all of this so the UN can grab our guns, or something.
 
2012-12-15 03:36:31 PM  
You are comparing cars to semi-automatic weapons?

Seriously?

Serious farking ly?

Let's replace car with nuclear weapons


Let's replace car with bananas.

Seriously?

A gun is a thing unto itself. You would rather feel personally safer than know the likelihood of twenty kindergartners dying has been drastically reduced?
 
2012-12-15 03:36:44 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: I have a hard time seeing how keeping you owning a limited number of weapons and having you go through extensive training/psych checks to own said weapons is "punishment." It's actually called "be a responsible member of society."


Most of the rabble I have heard from the anti gun crowd is ban all guns not just having you go through extensive training/psych checks or limiting how many guns you can own.

A crazy person will still figure out a way to hurt or kill multiple people by way of driving a vehicle (car truck plane it doesn't matter ) into a crowd or making a homemade bomb or just running through a crowd stabbing people.
 
2012-12-15 03:37:35 PM  

ultraholland: PlatypusPuke: Then, after enough mass shootings occur, the government will disarm everyone at the public's behest.

Obama engineered all of this so the UN can grab our guns, or something.


I've already seen posts popping up on Facebook about the shootings being some revival of an MKULTRA-esque program to turn public opinion.
 
2012-12-15 03:37:51 PM  

NotoriousFire: Gosling: Yeah. Sure. Mexico has low gun availability. You just keep thinking that.

You think if we outlaw guns in the US, that gun availability would decrease? Ha! Yeah right...


This. That's the problem with "out-lawing" guns at this point (like Canada, which alot of people point to when attempting to show how utopian we could be if we did it). Guns are so widespread, unless you go into every single persons home and literally take the guns out, then track down every gang-member and find their stash, then shut down all of the gun-shops AND take all of their merch, guns are STILL going to be out there. The only difference is who gets them. Hint: The people you don't want to have them, and this shiat will continue to happen.
 
2012-12-15 03:38:03 PM  
Why am I the one having to justify not owning killing devices? Shouldn't the gun owners have to justify their need to own? Talk about backwards land.
 
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