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2012-12-15 08:36:59 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: NotoriousFire: Princess Ryans Knickers: "have been investigated and are not accurate"

Link/Citation? It's clearly on the front page, without that little tidbit you made up. As well as in numerous other citations, as linked above.

There are no other "citations" listed. They have their older articles and ones that deal with other aspects like listing the names of the little children that Jesus told you to protect and care for. For as Jesus said unto you, "blessed be the little ones and for however you treat them is how you will be rewarded in Heaven. You don't want to go to Hell do you?


So you admit you have no citation to counter the numerous citations that mention the shooter tried to buy a firearm, but was restricted due to law. Thanks for admitting it.
 
2012-12-15 08:36:59 PM

Generation_D: Happy 221st Birthday Second Amendment. God Bless well-regulated militias everywhere.

You know, the bill of rights is just a piece of paper. If enough of us think gun ownership is too stupid to handle, with too many negative consequences, for too many people, we could amend it. Been done before.


Would you be okay with amending the constitution to do away with freedom of speech. I mean, that right is only written on a piece of paper.
 
2012-12-15 08:37:13 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: "have been investigated and are not accurate"

Gee, if only there were some kind of.. gun control law.. that could have required this NRA member to lock up her guns so he would have had no access. Some kind of ... gun control law.. that would have kept her from taking him to the shooting range according to friends to teach him how to shoot. If only there were some kind of... gun control law... that would keep people with mental issues from getting guns. Sounds like you are in FAVOR of gun control laws.


here skippy: "Earlier reports that the suspected shooter, Adam Lanza, had an altercation with four adults at the school on Thursday have been investigated and are not accurate, according to a law
enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation."

Link

it's the altercation, not the gun purchase.

and again for who knows how many times, the guy killed his farking mom, so it doesn't farking matter if the guns were locked up in this case.
 
2012-12-15 08:37:52 PM
I've noticed that none of you want to directly argue against my points. I'll consider this a win. I'll leave you to consider your place in Hell while I exit to continue my efforts to protect the innocent.
 
2012-12-15 08:39:23 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: I've noticed that none of you want to directly argue against my points. I'll consider this a win. I'll leave you to consider your place in Hell while I exit to continue my efforts to protect the innocent.


Awww getting too hot for you?

I only just got to this thread.
 
2012-12-15 08:39:23 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: I've noticed that none of you want to directly argue against my points. I'll consider this a win. I'll leave you to consider your place in Hell while I exit to continue my efforts to protect the innocent.


If your points are to make stuff up, provide zero citations for any of it, and try to bring religion into a discussion about gun control... then yes, you've won. You've won zero points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Good day sir. I said, good day!
 
2012-12-15 08:39:24 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: I've noticed that none of you want to directly argue against my points. I'll consider this a win. I'll leave you to consider your place in Hell while I exit to continue my efforts to protect the innocent.


pretty convincing alt ya got there though! good jorb!
 
2012-12-15 08:42:13 PM

ScouserDuck: Would you be okay with amending the constitution to do away with freedom of speech. I mean, that right is only written on a piece of paper.


If you can do it by legal means, instead of an occutarded attempt to force by drama and violence what can't be accomplished by popular vote, then sure.

/we could do away with the whole Constitution if we had to
//it would turn the US into Zimbabwe, but to some people that's a small price to pay
///better to be king of hell, etc.
 
2012-12-15 08:44:00 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Medic Zero: You think 300 million guns are going to evaporate?

If laws were put in place making them illegal, most would. The others would be weeded out over time.


You seem to be laboring under a misapprehension. Just as with alcohol and many other drugs, all prohibition would do is drive guns underground. Unless you were willing to turn America into a total Police State, you couldn't possibly get all the guns. Furthermore, anyone with modest skill can build their own firearms and ammunition using commonly-available tools and raw materials- just like alcohol and many other drugs. Just for comparison, how's that War on Drugs going? After several decades of prohibition, one would expect that drugs were scarce and expensive in this country.

In the current case, the armed suspect was identified by hospital staff, who called the police. The suspect did not fire his weapon until the police confronted him. If the suspect was a felon (a possibly-unwarranted assumption on my part), it was already illegal for him to own or possess a firearm. The fact that he had one strongly suggests that merely making firearms illegal would do little to prevent people from gaining access to them.

From the published reports, it seems that the nutjob in Connecticut took his mother's legally-owned weapons. This implies that she did not take adequate precautions with her firearms in a household with someone who had diagnosed mental instability. If she were still alive, I would be calling for her to be prosecuted. In the same way, I would call for criminal prosecution of any parent whose child gets shot by the parent's unsecured weapon.

You aren't getting rid of guns in this country without creating a totalitarian government (and perhaps not even then) with ubiquitous control over the lives and actions of ever individual in the country. Instead of focusing on the tool, perhaps we should focus on those who misuse the tool.
 
2012-12-15 08:44:15 PM

BlippityBleep:
and again for who knows how many times, the guy killed his farking mom, so it doesn't farking matter if the guns were locked up in this case.


I somewhat disagree here. The blame for this should be partially put on the mother for failing to due her due diligence with firearms. If she left a grenade on the table, which her son with mental issues could get to, would we be having the same discussion? The blame should not be placed on the government or lack of stricter gun regulations. The blame here should, at least partially, be put on this woman who did not do a service to both her own son and to the countless individuals whose lives were taken. Not saying it's all on her (obviously it's not), but she deserves some credit.
 
2012-12-15 08:44:16 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: Here's what I get from the anarchist gun pushers in this thread:

The school shouldn't have bothered having a police officer on site as something would have happened anyway. The school shouldn't have bothered to lock the front door as obviously bad things still have a chance of happening. Why bother with any criminal laws? Something will happen. Safety devices being required on cars? Who needs them? No reason to have any food safety regulations as people still get sick! Hey, what's this medicine crap? Going to die anyway.


The door was locked
 
2012-12-15 08:49:56 PM
I was trolled and in my caring for the murdered children I fell for Princess Ryans Knickers crap...I have no words
 
2012-12-15 08:51:31 PM
What I would do

Ban all hand guns except for law enforcement and military
Ban all assault weapons
Ban all high capacity magazines
Allow people to own one rifle or shotgun with no more than a 5 round capacity
No open carry
Mental health certifications for all applicants
All guns would be registered

Welcome to Johnny's America
 
2012-12-15 08:53:04 PM

NotoriousFire: BlippityBleep:
and again for who knows how many times, the guy killed his farking mom, so it doesn't farking matter if the guns were locked up in this case.

I somewhat disagree here. The blame for this should be partially put on the mother for failing to due her due diligence with firearms. If she left a grenade on the table, which her son with mental issues could get to, would we be having the same discussion? The blame should not be placed on the government or lack of stricter gun regulations. The blame here should, at least partially, be put on this woman who did not do a service to both her own son and to the countless individuals whose lives were taken. Not saying it's all on her (obviously it's not), but she deserves some credit.


I agree with you that she should have used better judgment. if I were her I would have done basic gun safety but not training with her kid. i'd also like to see what types of safety measures were in place to prevent him from gaining access to them... which brings up again how he killed her and it doesn't really matter how well locked up they were. but yes, i think her judgment was off but making a law to take guns away from a household just because one member is unstable isn't the answer. it's a culture/mental health stigma fix that's required here, not disarming legal owners.
 
2012-12-15 08:53:09 PM

Popcorn Johnny: What I would do

Ban all hand guns except for law enforcement and military
Ban all assault weapons
Ban all high capacity magazines
Allow people to own one rifle or shotgun with no more than a 5 round capacity
No open carry
Mental health certifications for all applicants
All guns would be registered

Welcome to Johnny's America Germany circa 1939

FTFY
 
2012-12-15 08:53:55 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: NotoriousFire: Princess Ryans Knickers: If you "support" the Second Amendment, you support the "well regulated" part of it. End of story. Otherwise you are pissing on the Constitution and are NOT a Real American.

Um, re-read the Second Amendment. Well regulated militia... not well regulated gun control laws. Unless your version says something different. You know, different than the one the US Supreme Court ruled on several years ago...

Ah but the NRA has argued, successfully along with the GOP that the militia is the People.


1. In context "well regulated" today would mean "well balanced and orderly." Dictionary of the English language by Samuel Johnson (1768, 3rd edition) & 1792 edition

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Why were British soldiers often times called "regulars?" They were everyday Joe Tavern sheep herders or something? That clearly doesn't make any sense.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_a_British_Regular

British regular refers to the ''regular'' land army of the United Kingdom. The term was used quite a lot during the time of the American revolutionary war, to help divide the British Army, from other forms of armed Militia.

Wow so how can an armed soldier of the British Empire be called a regular? Because the word was used differently hundreds of years ago.

A militia would not be well regulated if when attempting to draw from the people if none of them had weapons, it would be useless.

2. The current Virginia Militia under Virginia Code § 44-1 states "The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied citizens of this Commonwealth and all other able-bodied persons resident in this Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least sixteen years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than fifty-five years of age. The militia shall be divided into four classes, the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard, the Virginia State Defense Force, the naval militia, and the unorganized militia
 
2012-12-15 08:58:00 PM

mittromneysdog: And I'm saying most of these kinds of shooters, and some other types of criminals, don't know the right people. They'd have no idea who to call. I've no doubt it's possible for me to acquire a black market grenade. But I've no idea where to begin looking. Why? Because I'm not sophisticated about the hand grenade black market.


Grenades are not terribly difficult to make, and require only a modest knowledge of chemistry. The raw materials are commonly available, and the knowledge is as close as your local library. Your argument is not supported by the available evidence. The same is true for firearms and ammunition. The materials and tools for manufacturing firearms and ammunition are commonly available, and only modest skills are required.

The genie is out of the bottle. Without a profound social change in the US, guns are here to stay. Please take a look at mass shooting statistics dating back to the early 1900s. Firearms were more easily available- including full-auto weapons. How many mass shootings were there? When did these mass shootings begin to become noticeable? Why did they start happening?
 
2012-12-15 09:01:00 PM

flucto: Waxing_Chewbacca: - Charlotte Bacon, 2/22/06, female
- Daniel Barden, 9/25/05, male
- Rachel Davino, 7/17/83, female.
- Olivia Engel, 7/18/06, female
- Josephine Gay, 12/11/05, female
- Ana M. Marquez-Greene, 04/04/06, female
- Dylan Hockley, 3/8/06, male
- Dawn Hocksprung, 06/28/65, female
- Madeleine F. Hsu, 7/10/06, female
- Catherine V. Hubbard, 6/08/06, female
- Chase Kowalski, 10/31/05, male
- Jesse Lewis, 6/30/06, male
- James Mattioli , 3/22/06, male
- Grace McDonnell, 12/04/05, female
- Anne Marie Murphy, 07/25/60, female
- Emilie Parker, 5/12/06, female
- Jack Pinto, 5/06/06, male
- Noah Pozner, 11/20/06, male
- Caroline Previdi, 9/07/06, female
- Jessica Rekos, 5/10/06, female
- Avielle Richman, 10/17/06, female
- Lauren Russeau, 6/1982, female (full date of birth not specified)
- Mary Sherlach, 2/11/56, female
- Victoria Soto, 11/04/85, female
- Benjamin Wheeler, 9/12/06, male
- Allison N. Wyatt, 7/03/06, female

Better we have a civil war with the gun lobby now than ever see another list like this. I want to throw up.


A civil war??? Okay, bring it! I'm going with the side that has arms, exactly as our founders intended!
 
2012-12-15 09:04:43 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: USP .45: Princess Ryans Knickers: So you don't deny that a mentally deficient and troubled man should have had no access to the guns and that the law should be changed to prevent that and unify the gun laws across all states to prevent future tragedy?

If the mother wasn't the victim, she'd be totally liable as this point. As far as blanket law to address specifically what happened? Difficult unless you want to get radical, and I mean radical like infringing upon personal property, medical privacy, and probable cause/4th Amendment rights.

So you are in FAVOR of gun control laws infriginging on her personal property, privacy, and land rights to teach her kids how to use guns. Good to know.


No I'm saying the laws you would like to see probably do that, but I suspect you don't care.
 
2012-12-15 09:09:55 PM
man, i'm still in mourning over some other complete strangers from another country so this..THIS is just
emotionally draining...

then i hear something about some place called Palestine or Israel or someplace and it reminds of this place called the Balkans...man..then it just gets too much..

i sure hope some white girl doesn't go missing over christmas because then i will just loooooooossseeee it...


my ghoulish and self indulgent condolences go out to all those who i will never meet...

i should get on the comments sections of the local papers and address my prayers to people in a very personal way...from halfway across the country...

"we will miss you Tina...you were loved.." etc etc


get on with it.

/sad kid with sad life kills innocent people.
//go home with your satellite trucks and your rubbernecks
///this post brought to you by TIDE: we can get the blood out. now back to Harry with the weather..
 
2012-12-15 09:12:45 PM
In Texas you cannot have a conealed weopen in a hospital. Sucks.
 
2012-12-15 09:13:49 PM

Giltric: SirFire: Why did they take the victims, who were in the hospital, to another hospital for treatment? This doesn't make any sense.

depends on the hospital....some hospitals are better suited for GSW than others.


They still didn't know if the staff were targets and/or there were multiple shooters, plus St Vincents could probably handle 1 GSW, not 3 at the same time.

UAB could easily handle multiple GSW's and does on a regular basis. Plus UAB has more surgeons they could round up quickly, and is higher rated for trauma. And UAB has it's own police force for security.

/used to work at UAB Hospital.
//Always go to a teaching hospital if you get shot or stabbed
///They usually have the biggest bloodbank on the premises, too
 
2012-12-15 09:22:46 PM

Popcorn Johnny: BSABSVR: Wouldn't a copycat shooting have something do with the first shooting, dumbfark?

Wouldn't walking into a place and shooting a people be the same farking thing, no matter if it's a mall, school or hospital?


He didn't walk into the place and start shooting. He walked into the place, stated or showed he had a gun, didn't shoot anyone, the police arrived, he shot at the police. That is about as far from copycat as it gets.
 
2012-12-15 09:39:02 PM
Popcorn Johnny: What I would do

Ban all hand guns except for law enforcement and military
Ban all assault weapons
Ban all high capacity magazines
Allow people to own one rifle or shotgun with no more than a 5 round capacity
No open carry
Mental health certifications for all applicants
All guns would be registered

Welcome to Johnny's America


Its kind of funny that many people bring up these same ideas.

Back when the Brady bill passed (which set up the background check system to prevent crazy and criminal people from buying guns) there were those who said it wouldn't work.
...and it didn't work.

These same people said that when it failed, those who were against gun ownership would come back to take something else away.
...and here these people are, looking to take everything away.

No, this isn't the part where we should be forced to look at a ban all things approach to dealing with society. We're done playing the giving tree routine because the government already got its permission to hand pick who could own what kinds of weapons. Our constitutional right folded to bureaucratic pressure, the camels nose has been all up and down in our tent.
This is the part where we tell them to look for something else to blame, because reasonable gun control was apparently a sham that the government failed to make work.

On that note: We've got lots of crazy people out there and the media is idolizing mass shootings, so the attacks are coming in waves. Probably not helped by the usual holiday hysteria capped off with the Mayan calendar nonsense.
Step one might be to start securing our gun free zones against the threat, and a rational step two would be to resolve why headcases are going untreated and unflagged (thus making it impossible for law enforcement to do anything about them).

Rummaging through my house looking for stuff to take won't achieve anything useful in those regards.
 
2012-12-15 09:39:17 PM

NeoBad: In Texas you may not have a conealed weapon in a hospital. Sucks.


Fixed that for you.
 
2012-12-15 10:29:22 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: Giltric: Princess Ryans Knickers: USP .45: Princess Ryans Knickers: So you don't deny that a mentally deficient and troubled man should have had no access to the guns and that the law should be changed to prevent that and unify the gun laws across all states to prevent future tragedy?

If the mother wasn't the victim, she'd be totally liable as this point. As far as blanket law to address specifically what happened? Difficult unless you want to get radical, and I mean radical like infringing upon personal property, medical privacy, and probable cause/4th Amendment rights.

So you are in FAVOR of gun control laws infriginging on her personal property, privacy, and land rights to teach her kids how to use guns. Good to know.

Wow man you are burning that alt on both ends, I hope you have another with an earlier registration date to try again with.

What alt?


If ya take away all guns, there's nothing stopping us from sprinkling some rat poison in the punch bowl that all you insolent liberals drink from incessantly. Boom!
 
2012-12-15 10:44:04 PM

way south: Back when the Brady bill passed (which set up the background check system to prevent crazy and criminal people from buying guns) there were those who said it wouldn't work.
...and it didn't work.

These same people said that when it failed, those who were against gun ownership would come back to take something else away.
...and here these people are, looking to take everything away.


Prohibition has never worked.

So I suggest a Prohibition on Prohibitions.

No longer the stick, bring forth now the carrot.
 
2012-12-15 10:52:49 PM

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: The Face Of Oblivion: If you have a way to do that, I'd like to hear it.

If I had a way to do it, I wouldn't be FARKing that's for sure.

'Gun control' is a four-letter word, and probably rightly so. What we need is re-recognizing that with our right to bear arms comes the responsibility of bearing arms. Other cultures have figured that part out, we need to start working our way there ourselves.


It occurs to me this is going to get MUCH trickier with 3D printers getting better and cheaper.

It's already possible to print out a basic, crappy, but functional gun, according to Boing Boing.
 
2012-12-15 11:13:13 PM

TenJed_77: DoomPaul: Generation_D: DoomPaul: Thankfully security was on hand this time, but you get the point.

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Now put that up against stats showing how many people in a Western country outside the USA are killed by guns, at all. See how it does.

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The problem is Japan and Switzerland can not be compared to the US and Mexico. They are both extremely disciplined by nature, where as Americans and Mexicans are not.


Ah, good, I'm glad this was covered. Japan's hobby is cultural harmony. Breaking laws and mass murders breaks that harmony. Sure, it unfortunately still happens, but not very often. And that's why it's such a shock when it does happen.

And for the record, Japan really, really hates pot. Enjoy likely not visiting Japan if you've got a conviction for pot on your record. You'll get sent back to the US on the next flight from customs.
 
2012-12-15 11:22:43 PM
Ok, time to bring back drawing and quartering. I'm sorry. The 8th Amendment can go take a flying fark when it comes to people like this. Apparently, there isn't enough of a deterrent.

Oh, and broadcast it live on every f*cking channel. After the kiddies have gone to bed, of course. Yes, on MTV, too. Those guidos can take a seat to justice.
 
2012-12-15 11:33:43 PM

xanadian: Ok, time to bring back drawing and quartering. I'm sorry. The 8th Amendment can go take a flying fark when it comes to people like this. Apparently, there isn't enough of a deterrent.


he killed himself already yo.
 
2012-12-15 11:35:46 PM

MrGMan: Generation_D: BlippityBleep: MrGMan: the laws didn't make a difference.

[i50.tinypic.com image 440x642]

/obligitory

Laws seem to work out better in Europe and Japan. And they smoke pot too. Straw man is straw.

8 children in Osaka Japan, and 77 people in Norway, or at least their families, might disagree with you...


Absolutely, they might. Thats one incident, per country, in how many years?

In the USA we're clipping along at 4, 5 incidents now a year.

At some point, the non gun owning majority just might decide we've had enough of your crap.
 
2012-12-15 11:36:48 PM
think it's easy to say that the recent gun-related murders should inspire Americans to discuss 1) gun control and 2) mental health care. But I think that the third part of that is the media's culpability in how it shapes society.
It's disingenuous to say that it's a mirror. Instead, it pushes past a tipping point, creating new behaviors in people who are influenced by what they're told society is and how it should behave.

I strongly doubt that the urge to commit some of these crimes comes spontaneously from people's thought processes. The media, with its need to impress and shock (so as to get viewers to its advertising), teaches a societal fiction that some think is the norm - or advice.

Bluster and hyperbole are easily shrugged off by some, but not by others. Complex ideas are understood by some, but not by others - who misunderstand and then go down a dark path due to this misinformation.

As a nation, we need to re-examine the high road: proper access to reasonable weapons, universal health care to all our citizens, and a voluntary internal repurposing of our media to teach and elevate society. Of course, just like getting weapons off the streets, getting the media to do a better job is just a pipe dream. Still, hope is not a plan. Could we not define a direction that we hope the country to move in? If not, it seems likely that we continue to move to a violent, frustrated idiocracy.
 
2012-12-15 11:37:12 PM

Friction8r: Princess Ryans Knickers: Giltric: Princess Ryans Knickers: USP .45: Princess Ryans Knickers: So you don't deny that a mentally deficient and troubled man should have had no access to the guns and that the law should be changed to prevent that and unify the gun laws across all states to prevent future tragedy?

If the mother wasn't the victim, she'd be totally liable as this point. As far as blanket law to address specifically what happened? Difficult unless you want to get radical, and I mean radical like infringing upon personal property, medical privacy, and probable cause/4th Amendment rights.

So you are in FAVOR of gun control laws infriginging on her personal property, privacy, and land rights to teach her kids how to use guns. Good to know.

Wow man you are burning that alt on both ends, I hope you have another with an earlier registration date to try again with.

What alt?

If ya take away all guns, there's nothing stopping us from sprinkling some rat poison in the punch bowl that all you insolent liberals drink from incessantly. Boom!


Other than the fact you're a fat lazy redneck who wouldn't have the energy or the stones to do it.
 
2012-12-15 11:40:02 PM

ScouserDuck: Generation_D: Happy 221st Birthday Second Amendment. God Bless well-regulated militias everywhere.

You know, the bill of rights is just a piece of paper. If enough of us think gun ownership is too stupid to handle, with too many negative consequences, for too many people, we could amend it. Been done before.

Would you be okay with amending the constitution to do away with freedom of speech. I mean, that right is only written on a piece of paper.


Speech never killed anyone. Gun owners do, frequently.
 
2012-12-15 11:41:41 PM
The Face of Oblivion

dmax: voluntary internal repurposing of our media to teach and elevate society.


The First Amendment, let me show you it. Protip: whenever this has occurred, it's not "voluntary" nor purely "internal", "repurposing" is a euphemism, and "teach[ing] and elevat[ing] society" should read "pushing propaganda, stifling dissent, dumbing down the national discourse, and destroying democracy."
 
2012-12-15 11:43:28 PM
Well, aren't you all glad that guns are providing you with a wide range of sweeping protection in this day and age of violence... Get a grip people, the framers of the 2nd Amendment had no idea of the future when they promised to allow you to keep weapons that took 30 seconds to reload. They didn't expect that you'd be in a position, one day, to kill so many people in less than a couple of seconds and I seriously doubt that their intent was that it should be so.
 
2012-12-15 11:45:13 PM

Princess Ryans Knickers: I've noticed that none of you want to directly argue against my points. I'll consider this a win. I'll leave you to consider your place in Hell while I exit to continue my efforts to protect the innocent.


Hey look, its muckadoo, on an alt because his main is banned.
 
2012-12-15 11:46:16 PM

ScouserDuck: Would you be okay with amending the constitution to do away with freedom of speech. I mean, that right is only written on a piece of paper.


I sense that you speaking is likely to result in many dying... mostly out of sheer desire to escape the stupid.
 
2012-12-15 11:46:54 PM

thisisarepeat: Popcorn Johnny: What I would do

Ban all hand guns except for law enforcement and military
Ban all assault weapons
Ban all high capacity magazines
Allow people to own one rifle or shotgun with no more than a 5 round capacity
No open carry
Mental health certifications for all applicants
All guns would be registered

Welcome to Johnny's America Germany circa 1939
FTFY


By the way, based on your posts here, you are one of the last people on the face of the earth who should own a gun, you would never pass a mental health test to own one, and I find you absolutely disgusting on a personal level.
 
2012-12-15 11:51:06 PM

Friction8r: Princess Ryans Knickers: Giltric: Princess Ryans Knickers: USP .45: Princess Ryans Knickers: So you don't deny that a mentally deficient and troubled man should have had no access to the guns and that the law should be changed to prevent that and unify the gun laws across all states to prevent future tragedy?

If the mother wasn't the victim, she'd be totally liable as this point. As far as blanket law to address specifically what happened? Difficult unless you want to get radical, and I mean radical like infringing upon personal property, medical privacy, and probable cause/4th Amendment rights.

So you are in FAVOR of gun control laws infriginging on her personal property, privacy, and land rights to teach her kids how to use guns. Good to know.

Wow man you are burning that alt on both ends, I hope you have another with an earlier registration date to try again with.

What alt?

If ya take away all guns, there's nothing stopping us from sprinkling some rat poison in the punch bowl that all you insolent liberals drink from incessantly. Boom!


You've already made it clear the level of psychosis you have in this thread. I hope you actually have the balls to follow through on your rambo style fantasy fetishes. Thankfully, no one is advocating taking weapons away from law enforcement, so I look forward to laughing at your futile attempt at matrydom on the news. Then we will forget you existed and advance humanity in spite of you.
 
2012-12-15 11:54:23 PM

Generation_D: Speech never killed anyone. Gun owners do, frequently.


Highly, highly debatable with respect to the former, not that I'm advocating restricting speech/expression.

It also doesn't help your case when the left/special interest groups repeatedly takes action against clearly non-lethal speech; it makes me think they'll make the next leap to saying speech kills peop- oh wait they did with YouTube and Benghazi.
 
2012-12-15 11:56:39 PM

justtray: I hope you actually have the balls to follow through on your rambo style fantasy fetishes.


wait so you actually do drink from a giant punch bowl? I just assumed he was commenting tongue in cheek.
 
2012-12-16 12:12:32 AM

spqr_ca: Well, aren't you all glad that guns are providing you with a wide range of sweeping protection in this day and age of violence... Get a grip people, the framers of the 2nd Amendment had no idea of the future when they promised to allow you to keep weapons that took 30 seconds to reload. They didn't expect that you'd be in a position, one day, to kill so many people in less than a couple of seconds and I seriously doubt that their intent was that it should be so.


At the same time, the GAO estimates it has takes 250,000 rounds of ammunition to kill a single insurgent in Iraq/Aghanistan. That's by military personnel with experience and a culture of marksmanship.

I'm sure there are FBI statistics on police shootings where they used a seemingly inordinate amount of ammunition for one suspect. Amadou Diallo shot 41 times for example.

Also during the time of the framers, they used to line up in formation at close range and fire volleys into each other, and there were numerous firearms with rifling capable of killing outside of musket range. Seems excessive.

So yeah, a lot of variables at play.
 
2012-12-16 12:13:57 AM

thisisarepeat: Popcorn Johnny: What I would do

Ban all hand guns except for law enforcement and military
Ban all assault weapons
Ban all high capacity magazines
Allow people to own one rifle or shotgun with no more than a 5 round capacity
No open carry
Mental health certifications for all applicants
All guns would be registered

Welcome to Johnny's America Germany circa 1939
FTFY


Australia did everything on the list except 1 and 4 after the Port Arthur massacre, and no, despite a hilarious campaign of complete lies by the NRA it's nothing like Hitler's Germany here.

We don't get felt up by strangers at our airports, either.
 
2012-12-16 12:17:06 AM

USP .45: Generation_D: Speech never killed anyone. Gun owners do, frequently.

Highly, highly debatable with respect to the former, not that I'm advocating restricting speech/expression.

It also doesn't help your case when the left/special interest groups repeatedly takes action against clearly non-lethal speech; it makes me think they'll make the next leap to saying speech kills peop- oh wait they did with YouTube and Benghazi.


Plonk.
 
2012-12-16 12:18:37 AM

darth_shatner: Australia did everything on the list except 1 and 4 after the Port Arthur massacre, and no, despite a hilarious campaign of complete lies by the NRA it's nothing like Hitler's Germany here.

We don't get felt up by strangers at our airports, either.


You have ridiculous duties/taxes on computers and video games. Seems retarded.
 
2012-12-16 12:23:08 AM

justtray: USP .45: Generation_D: Speech never killed anyone. Gun owners do, frequently.

Highly, highly debatable with respect to the former, not that I'm advocating restricting speech/expression.

It also doesn't help your case when the left/special interest groups repeatedly takes action against clearly non-lethal speech; it makes me think they'll make the next leap to saying speech kills peop- oh wait they did with YouTube and Benghazi.

Plonk.


Love it. Instead of just not simply not replying, or dismissing what I've said, you announce that you're adding me to an ignore list. LALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA

You're the type of clown that makes people like Daniel Tosh and Don Imus apologize for doing their jobs simply because there is no "ignore reality" feature for life.
 
2012-12-16 12:23:45 AM

USP .45: darth_shatner: Australia did everything on the list except 1 and 4 after the Port Arthur massacre, and no, despite a hilarious campaign of complete lies by the NRA it's nothing like Hitler's Germany here.

We don't get felt up by strangers at our airports, either.

You have ridiculous duties/taxes on computers and video games. Seems retarded.


You mean the 10% GST I just payed on my new PC. Yeah - I don't know how we cope, having to add a 10% tax and all. It's horrific. It adds a whole $5-10 to the price of most video games too - they should call the UN or something.
 
2012-12-16 12:26:49 AM

darth_shatner: USP .45: darth_shatner: Australia did everything on the list except 1 and 4 after the Port Arthur massacre, and no, despite a hilarious campaign of complete lies by the NRA it's nothing like Hitler's Germany here.

We don't get felt up by strangers at our airports, either.

You have ridiculous duties/taxes on computers and video games. Seems retarded.

You mean the 10% GST I just payed on my new PC. Yeah - I don't know how we cope, having to add a 10% tax and all. It's horrific. It adds a whole $5-10 to the price of most video games too - they should call the UN or something.


I have no idea what the rate is, just that you do it. It's hilarious. Here in the US we tax things that actually kill you, not random consumer items. Alcohol/Tobacco/Firearms/...tanning salons...........medic-....medical devices.

/yep, Obama has taxed all medical devices.
//nevermind. OZ FTW
 
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