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(ESPN)   Mount Union College wins 11th DIvision III National Championship by defeating St. Thomas (MN) 28-10   (espn.go.com) divider line 20
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2012-12-15 04:23:52 PM
Sad the Warhawks weren't there this year. They did not play well this year. Mount Union is a powerhouse, I can only hope we can rekindle that rivalry next year.
 
2012-12-15 04:50:02 PM
Mount Union is a freakin machine.

You are right, UW Whitewater is pretty much as well.

//when, oh when are my Little Giants going to be that good? Killing their arch-rival year after year is just not satisfying any more.
 
2012-12-15 04:54:27 PM
So?
 
2012-12-15 05:05:21 PM
FTW: The victory gave Kehres his 11th national title in 16 appearances in the Stagg Bowl, all in the past 20 years.

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2012-12-15 05:11:05 PM
My wife graduated from St Thomas, so I'm getting a kick here. Why Minnesota schools can compete for a title at the D3 level, but the Gophers haven't been relevant for half a century is beyond me.
 
2012-12-15 05:21:26 PM

lilbjorn: So?


People here on fark like to post shiat like this as proof playoffs work, the problem with that is nobody cared and I don't even think it was nationally shown which is pretty pathetic for a national championship game. Even if it was shown there was no push or even buzz about it so they kill the argument that it would be the best solution. In the bar/restaurant I was eating in even the new Mexico bowl had more requests to be shown, nobody would even care this was on unless you were on the field or were a current student.
 
2012-12-15 05:52:19 PM
Mount Union has been in beast mode for a while now. I'm rooting for the roll to continue.
 
2012-12-15 06:04:36 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how they are so good. I mean, they won 109 out of 110 games at one point and six out of seven consecutive national titles. DIII schools are ostensibly not supposed to give out scholarships, so how do they attract that kind of consistent talent to a smallish liberal arts school in Ohio?
 
2012-12-15 06:09:38 PM
It is a university now. Exposure has helped them build their first grad programs. They mentioned during the game that they set the ncaa record for points scored in a season...again.
 
2012-12-15 06:19:13 PM
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2012-12-15 06:43:05 PM

steamingpile: lilbjorn: So?

People here on fark like to post shiat like this as proof playoffs work, the problem with that is nobody cared and I don't even think it was nationally shown which is pretty pathetic for a national championship game. Even if it was shown there was no push or even buzz about it so they kill the argument that it would be the best solution. In the bar/restaurant I was eating in even the new Mexico bowl had more requests to be shown, nobody would even care this was on unless you were on the field or were a current student.


But the Liquid Plumber Toilet Bowl is must-see television.
 
2012-12-15 08:11:34 PM

rugman11: I'm still trying to figure out how they are so good. I mean, they won 109 out of 110 games at one point and six out of seven consecutive national titles. DIII schools are ostensibly not supposed to give out scholarships, so how do they attract that kind of consistent talent to a smallish liberal arts school in Ohio?


Northeast Ohio, that is, and Alliance isn't that far from western PA either. Cradle of all that is footballish. It's not that much of a stretch.
 
2012-12-15 08:32:26 PM
Force them up to FCS. No reason for them to remain DIII. It's a joke that they can stay there.
 
2012-12-15 08:46:52 PM

Munchausen's Proxy: Mount Union is a freakin machine.

You are right, UW Whitewater is pretty much as well.

//when, oh when are my Little Giants going to be that good? Killing their arch-rival year after year is just not satisfying any more.


UW Oshkosh made it pretty far this year. Impressive since it was their first D3 playoff appearance ever.
 
2012-12-15 09:37:59 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: Force them up to FCS. No reason for them to remain DIII. It's a joke that they can stay there.


But then they'd be competing against schools which offer FB scholarships. Just not part of what Mt Union is. Division 2? Maybe.

Division 3 (NCAA)
 
2012-12-15 10:22:23 PM

steamingpile: lilbjorn: So?

People here on fark like to post shiat like this as proof playoffs work, the problem with that is nobody cared and I don't even think it was nationally shown which is pretty pathetic for a national championship game. Even if it was shown there was no push or even buzz about it so they kill the argument that it would be the best solution. In the bar/restaurant I was eating in even the new Mexico bowl had more requests to be shown, nobody would even care this was on unless you were on the field or were a current student.



Well even as someone who finds D3 football somewhat exciting (went to a D3 school), the fact that the same two teams seem to be in the final every year doesn't help. D1AA has at least been more exciting with a better diversity of good teams, but they're really only cared about locally, (or not at all in the case of Villanova.)
 
2012-12-16 07:33:09 AM

CognaciousThunk: AdmirableSnackbar: Force them up to FCS. No reason for them to remain DIII. It's a joke that they can stay there.

But then they'd be competing against schools which offer FB scholarships. Just not part of what Mt Union is. Division 2? Maybe.

Division 3 (NCAA)


I know about NCAA DIII rules, I played DIII football in college. If you don't think a good number of Mt Union's players are getting financial aid you're naive. They aren't labeled as athletic scholarships, but you better believe that they're receiving that aid because of the pull the football coach has.

The program has developed beyond a DIII program and yet they remain on the lowest tier of competition. Fark that, there's no honor there. To not go up to DII for the sole reason that they could not immediately compete for a championship is beyond bullshiat, it's cowardly. Ultimately, cowardice is what the program is primarily teaching their student-athletes.
 
2012-12-16 10:25:56 AM
Mount Union doesn't cut anybody; so they end. Up dressing over 100 players a game. Plus, according to several players I've talked to who played for and against Mount Union, they don't have the strictest steroid testing.....
 
2012-12-16 11:14:35 AM

jim-jim: Mount Union doesn't cut anybody; so they end. Up dressing over 100 players a game. Plus, according to several players I've talked to who played for and against Mount Union, they don't have the strictest steroid testing.....


That's a pretty common trait of D3 (the popularity of PEDs).
 
2012-12-17 10:08:52 AM

AdmirableSnackbar: The program has developed beyond a DIII program and yet they remain on the lowest tier of competition. Fark that, there's no honor there. To not go up to DII for the sole reason that they could not immediately compete for a championship is beyond bullshiat, it's cowardly. Ultimately, cowardice is what the program is primarily teaching their student-athletes.


I see how easy it is to think that way, but you have to remember that the decision falls to the entire athletic department and university, not just the football program. A school cannot have some teams compete at D3 and others at D2 or higher (unless they adhere to strict non-scholarship offerings). Also, there are certain requirements and facilities the school must meet to move up. St. Thomas had considered a move to D2 a few years back because they were considering moving their hockey program to D1. But they faced the reality that such a move would have cost the university to scrap the football program. In the end, they decided that wasn't in the best interest of the university and its students.

Still proud of my Tommies this year. They graduated something like 4 all-americans the previous year and still advanced to the school's first title appearance. I hope they now become a regular near the top like Mt. Union and Whitewater. A good future ahead as long as their coach stays.
 
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