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(Deadline)   The Hobbit is breaking up December weekend box office records like a stone giant tossing around mountain cliffs. "And a very fine Saturday morning for a pipe of tobacco out of doors, into the bargain," noted Bilbo   (deadline.com) divider line 196
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2012-12-15 11:42:15 AM
I wonder how much of that has to do with the fact that most people will be seeing it in 3D, and thus paying a very high premium on the ticket price.
 
2012-12-15 11:58:16 AM
So does it suck or not? Be as open and honest as possible, and show your work.
 
2012-12-15 12:00:06 PM
Saw it last night. Deserves every dollar.

/and I'm not sure what movie most critics watched but in many ways it was better than Fellowship
 
2012-12-15 12:00:43 PM
I saw it yesterday in IMAX 3D and really enjoyed it. I thought the 3D was well done and not over-the-top.
 
2012-12-15 12:07:23 PM

WhippingBoy: So does it suck or not? Be as open and honest as possible, and show your work.


I loved it, saw it yesterday morning. 3D showing at 10:30 am was $8. Wasn't the new framerate, so I haven't seen that.

Lots of great scenes from the book recreated.. the unexpected dinner guests, the 3 Trolls, Riddles in the Dark with Gollum.

Biggest change.. Azog survived the Battle of Moria, and seeks vengeance against Thorin Oakenshield.
 
2012-12-15 12:09:05 PM
I was surprised that at my 10:30 am showing, there were only about a dozen of us in the theater.. but then there was a 2D showing that started about a half hour earlier, so that may explain it.
 
2012-12-15 12:10:13 PM
Tobacco?
 
2012-12-15 12:12:17 PM
Been a while since I read the book, so cannot really speak to the plot changes. But overall the movie was fairly enjoyable. There probably could have been 15-30 minutes cut without really impacting the story, but it did give the movie almost a 'director's cut' feel on release, so I am now very curious as to what did get dropped.

For someone (like my wife) that does not know the overall story fairly well, the beginning was a little confusing since they started with the preparations for Bilbo's 111 party and then took us back to the time of the events in the Hobbit. It makes sense if you look at the movie in the frame of Bilbo sitting down and telling his story, but it took the wife a while to get the idea. Otherwise, the story was pretty well told, and you could keep up with most of the plot. The Necromancer subplot is a nice gift for true fans of Tolkien, but unless it is followed up on in the later movies, it will be a waste for most people.

I will give it 4 out of 5 stars largely depending on how the rest of the story plays out in the next 2 movies.
 
2012-12-15 12:16:13 PM

gingerjet: Saw it last night. Deserves every dollar.

/and I'm not sure what movie most critics watched but in many ways it was better than Fellowship


It's different in tone than the LOTR films, but I was expecting that. Surprisingly, I really liked the material from the LOTR appendixes that was shoehorned in ( Dol Guldur, White Council, even Radagast)

OTOH, I suspect one has to actually like the source material to like the film,and I'm probably biased here. It would be interesting to put someone who isn't familiar with any of this stuff in the theater and then observe their reaction...

/ film made me think about how long Saruman's treachery was really going on...
 
2012-12-15 12:19:36 PM
The wife and I are trying to make some decisions about going. We definitely want to see it but we're waiting to hear more about the HFR version to see if we want to see it in 24 or 48. Plus we're unsure about if we should bring the kid, she really wants to go and loves the LOTR movies but I have my doubts about her being able to still still in the theater for the whole running time.
 
2012-12-15 12:21:15 PM
One amusing tidbit.. the voice of the Great Goblin sounded somewhat familiar.. I looked him up afterwards, and he was the voice of Bruce the Shark in Finding Nemo.
 
2012-12-15 12:21:31 PM
I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?
 
2012-12-15 12:23:02 PM

BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?


It was Earth all along.
 
2012-12-15 12:28:50 PM
I really want to see it, I'm just not sure I really want nine farking hours of the Hobbit. It was a thin children's book, for goodness sake.
 
2012-12-15 12:31:23 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: It's different in tone than the LOTR films, but I was expecting that. Surprisingly, I really liked the material from the LOTR appendixes that was shoehorned in ( Dol Guldur, White Council, even Radagast)


I like the idea of having Radagast in the film, and I'm fine with the casting of him. My complaint is that they went a bit far in making him comedic. Between the CGI rabbit sled and the copious amounts of bird shiat his costume contained, it seems they could have toned it down a bit.

I loved the movie overall, but it could have easily trimmed half an hour without impacting the story (cut Azog, some of the Radagast stuff, and a huge chunk of the confusing Goblin Town chase).
 
2012-12-15 12:33:41 PM

jake_lex: I wonder how much of that has to do with the fact that most people will be seeing it in 3D, and thus paying a very high premium on the ticket price.


Only like 18% went to see it in 3D, I think.
 
2012-12-15 12:35:29 PM

ODDwhun: The wife and I are trying to make some decisions about going. We definitely want to see it but we're waiting to hear more about the HFR version to see if we want to see it in 24 or 48. Plus we're unsure about if we should bring the kid, she really wants to go and loves the LOTR movies but I have my doubts about her being able to still still in the theater for the whole running time.


We REALLY want to see it. Unfortunately, we don't have a babysitter. :o(

/firstworldproblems
 
2012-12-15 12:36:32 PM

WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.


Sauron is Bilbo's father.
 
2012-12-15 12:37:12 PM
A couple of dreadful, overlong and childishly ridiculous, action sequences came perilously close to ruining the damned thing. All that crap with suspended wooden platforms is retarded, get the hell over it movie-makers.

Also you can bloody keep 3d, first and last time I have bothered.

Apart from that was a good lil movie and not too long at all. Audiences were huge for the midnight showings on wed here in Auckland.
 
2012-12-15 12:40:37 PM

imontheinternet: WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.

Sauron is Bilbo's father.


Balrog killed Dumbledore.
 
2012-12-15 12:47:29 PM

gaspode: A couple of dreadful, overlong and childishly ridiculous, action sequences came perilously close to ruining the damned thing. All that crap with suspended wooden platforms is retarded, get the hell over it movie-makers.

Also you can bloody keep 3d, first and last time I have bothered.

Apart from that was a good lil movie and not too long at all. Audiences were huge for the midnight showings on wed here in Auckland.


Childish antics, in my children's movie? No wai!
 
2012-12-15 12:48:58 PM

NeoCortex42: imontheinternet: WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.

Sauron is Bilbo's father.

Balrog killed Dumbledore.


"Rosebud" was his sled.
 
2012-12-15 12:51:00 PM
Only Tolkien book I read cover to cover. Really enjoyed it. Cant wait to see the movie
 
2012-12-15 12:51:25 PM

gaspode: A couple of dreadful, overlong and childishly ridiculous, action sequences came perilously close to ruining the damned thing. All that crap with suspended wooden platforms is retarded, get the hell over it movie-makers.

Also you can bloody keep 3d, first and last time I have bothered.

Apart from that was a good lil movie and not too long at all. Audiences were huge for the midnight showings on wed here in Auckland.


Agreed. I didn't like that at all. CGI overload....

/ other parts of the film, with actual acting, make up for those transgressions, IMHO.
 
2012-12-15 12:52:22 PM
No thanks. PJ ruined LOTR and I'm sure he'll do the same with this.
I'll DL it once the DVD hits PB.
 
2012-12-15 12:54:31 PM
Reading reviews, I'm honestly curious, but I just won't see this one (or the others) on principle. It's a meaningless gesture, but I refuse to participate in what has been warped into a cash grab by studio execs.

/does not need to be three movies
//even two is a bit of a stretch
 
2012-12-15 12:54:34 PM

LesterB: NeoCortex42: imontheinternet: WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.

Sauron is Bilbo's father.

Balrog killed Dumbledore.

"Rosebud" was his sled.


Palpatine is secretly funding Saruman...
 
2012-12-15 01:01:53 PM

Forbidden Doughnut: LesterB: NeoCortex42: imontheinternet: WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.

Sauron is Bilbo's father.

Balrog killed Dumbledore.

"Rosebud" was his sled.

Palpatine is secretly funding Saruman...


Turns out they're all living in a computer-generated world called the 'Matrix'
 
2012-12-15 01:07:22 PM

gingerjet: Saw it last night. Deserves every dollar.

/and I'm not sure what movie most critics watched but in many ways it was better than Fellowship


Agreed. It's epic.
 
2012-12-15 01:09:12 PM

Githerax: Forbidden Doughnut: LesterB: NeoCortex42: imontheinternet: WhippingBoy: BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?

/Don't you hate it when assholes try to pull that?

It was Earth all along.

Sauron is Bilbo's father.

Balrog killed Dumbledore.

"Rosebud" was his sled.

Palpatine is secretly funding Saruman...

Turns out they're all living in a computer-generated world called the 'Matrix'


Lembas is people.
 
2012-12-15 01:09:47 PM
65% on Rotten Tomatoes

I love all the nerds trying to convince themselves (and others) that it was a great movie.
 
2012-12-15 01:11:49 PM
Tossing around cliffs? How does one do that?
 
2012-12-15 01:11:51 PM

Slives: The Necromancer subplot is a nice gift for true fans of Tolkien, but unless it is followed up on in the later movies, it will be a waste for most people.


Pretty sure we'll see he battle of Dol Guldor in one of the next 2 movies.

Forbidden Doughnut: film made me think about how long Saruman's treachery was really going on...


Saruman wants the ring even now and leaves Sauron (The Necromancer) alone in hopes the ring will reveal itself by trying to return to its master. (Which it does, but not in the way Saruman hopes.)

Forbidden Doughnut: OTOH, I suspect one has to actually like the source material to like the film,and I'm probably biased here. It would be interesting to put someone who isn't familiar with any of this stuff in the theater and then observe their reaction...


My S.O. is not a fan* but enjoyed the movie.
*doesn't like Firefly either; we stick together anyway

BumpInTheNight: I haven't see it or read the book yet but I want to talk about it with the rest of you. So please people: Don't post any spoilers okay?


LOL

NeoCortex42: Balrog killed Dumbledore.


With his wings!
 
2012-12-15 01:12:13 PM
I thought the movie was okay. I liked the book, but the movie is a little too cartoonish and cheesy. Maybe it just wasn't my cup of tea, hope all the Tolkien fans got what they wanted out of it.
 
2012-12-15 01:13:32 PM

gingerjet: Saw it last night. Deserves every dollar.

/and I'm not sure what movie most critics watched but in many ways it was better than Fellowship


Same here.

Although it certainly isn't a fine day for a pipe outdoors. It's in the low 30s and pouring rain. I guess it's a fine day, if you feel the need to catch pneumonia.
 
2012-12-15 01:14:16 PM

kroonermanblack: Tossing around cliffs? How does one do that?


Watch the movie to find out.
 
2012-12-15 01:15:07 PM

WhippingBoy: So does it suck or not? Be as open and honest as possible, and show your work.


i really enjoyed it as a return to middle earth, i think the reason i enjoyed it so much was because i went into it knowing that nothing was going to be resolved. seriously, so much happens, and yet, NOTHING happens,

/except for that one character getting that one thing.

so i would recommend so lond as you arent expecting an ending
 
2012-12-15 01:15:26 PM

fastfxr: No thanks. PJ ruined LOTR and I'm sure he'll do the same with this.
I'll DL it once the DVD hits PB.


grinding_journalist: Reading reviews, I'm honestly curious, but I just won't see this one (or the others) on principle. It's a meaningless gesture, but I refuse to participate in what has been warped into a cash grab by studio execs.

/does not need to be three movies
//even two is a bit of a stretch

 

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2012-12-15 01:16:02 PM
I thought it was a little over the top. To many scenes where even in a fantasy film seemed to be unbelievable. The scene when they are on the bridge in the caves and it collapses and everyone rides it down into the depths of the cave while it bounces off the walls only to land at the bottom with everyone alive was too much. Then in typical Hollywood style just when you think everything is safe the big goblin crashes down upon them.

And the troll scene was not near the books story. I felt it was too much Hollywood.
 
2012-12-15 01:16:33 PM

Alphax: I was surprised that at my 10:30 am showing, there were only about a dozen of us in the theater.. but then there was a 2D showing that started about a half hour earlier, so that may explain it.


i was at an 800 3d show (i would have preferred 2D) and the theater was half full
 
2012-12-15 01:17:29 PM

Kuroshin: kroonermanblack: Tossing around cliffs? How does one do that?

Watch the movie to find out.


There are no stone giants in The Hobbit... Not sure what you were going for there.
 
2012-12-15 01:18:27 PM
The movie was fun and great.
Haters gonna hate.
 
2012-12-15 01:19:08 PM

Vexed Thespian: so i would recommend so lond as you arent expecting an ending


I saw the press screening on Tuesday. This isn't a crowd of fans. Except for about four members of the press, this is a crowd of people who like to get into movies for free and have learned how to game the system.

At the end of the movie, the woman in front of us was PISSED. "You mean I have to wait another year?"

She was still screaming in the parking lot.
 
2012-12-15 01:19:43 PM

Honest Bender: Kuroshin: kroonermanblack: Tossing around cliffs? How does one do that?

Watch the movie to find out.

There are no stone giants in The Hobbit... Not sure what you were going for there.


They ARE mentioned in passing. The ones in the movie looked like Del Toro's influence. Was a bit surreal.
 
2012-12-15 01:20:22 PM

Alphax: One amusing tidbit.. the voice of the Great Goblin sounded somewhat familiar.. I looked him up afterwards, and he was the voice of Bruce the Shark in Finding Nemo.


THANK YOU, i forgot i wanted to check that after the movie, it had a sense of familiarity, but nothing that came to mind
 
2012-12-15 01:24:13 PM

NeoCortex42: Forbidden Doughnut: It's different in tone than the LOTR films, but I was expecting that. Surprisingly, I really liked the material from the LOTR appendixes that was shoehorned in ( Dol Guldur, White Council, even Radagast)

I like the idea of having Radagast in the film, and I'm fine with the casting of him. My complaint is that they went a bit far in making him comedic. Between the CGI rabbit sled and the copious amounts of bird shiat his costume contained, it seems they could have toned it down a bit.

I loved the movie overall, but it could have easily trimmed half an hour without impacting the story (cut Azog, some of the Radagast stuff, and a huge chunk of the confusing Goblin Town chase).


I loved the Dr Who tie in with Radagast...bet the current Dr ends up on Middle Earth soon.
 
2012-12-15 01:24:14 PM

kroonermanblack: Tossing around cliffs? How does one do that?


It's hard but if he's hearing his Post Office uniform it does make him easier to toss.
 
2012-12-15 01:26:33 PM

The My Little Pony Killer: I really want to see it, I'm just not sure I really want nine farking hours of the Hobbit. It was a thin children's book, for goodness sake.


That's kind of how I feel. LOTR was well over 1,000 pages and it was easily justified.

The copy of The Hobbit I had was probably around 350 pages.

I wouldn't balk at two movies, but three? Each with a 2.5 hour running time?
 
2012-12-15 01:27:21 PM

fastfxr: No thanks. PJ ruined LOTR and I'm sure he'll do the same with this.
I'll DL it once the DVD hits PB.


So if you dont want to watch it, why dont you skip pirating it and not be a dick by bragging about it?
 
2012-12-15 01:31:16 PM
So why didn't the giant eagles just fly Bilbo to Mordor and drop the ring in the Cracks of Doom.
 
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