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(Bloomberg)   Manchester FC confirm they will drop record $100 million on MLS expansion franchise to be based in NYC, hope to include Manchester United alum David Beckham in prominent role   ( bloomberg.com) divider line
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2012-12-15 12:14:13 AM  
I would like to welcome the NY Cosmos back to soccer
 
2012-12-15 12:57:04 AM  
The guy that owns Man City, wants a guy that played for Man U to help promote his new MLS venture... Okay then. Whose got plans after the 21st?
 
2012-12-15 01:27:56 AM  
Fark yeah Hudson River Derby.

Maybe now that New York has its own team, Red Bulls can rename themselves after their actual location.
 
2012-12-15 03:09:51 AM  
I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.
 
2012-12-15 03:49:00 AM  
Me along with like millions of others would rather see the Cosmos to MLS,

alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.


You do realize Beckham is famous throughout the entire world, right? Also, the sport is HUGELY popular in the northeast. Lastly Beckham isn't just loved in LA, he's David Beckham, you could throw him onto any team in any place and he would be hugely popular.
 
2012-12-15 04:19:13 AM  

alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.


I love how you just dismiss the "extra" seven hours. You fly much from LA to London? Not so bad for the existing teams, but for THIS team... cmon, man.
 
2012-12-15 04:19:16 AM  

BloodFireDeath: You do realize Beckham is famous throughout the entire world, right? Also, the sport is HUGELY popular in the northeast. Lastly Beckham isn't just loved in LA, he's David Beckham, you could throw him onto any team in any place and he would be hugely popular


Aye. Thats why I am trying to get you soccer fans to want this to happen in los angeles. 100 mil is not really chickenfeed . I want the Becks Bucks, HERE.
 
2012-12-15 04:22:27 AM  

I sound fat: alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.

I love how you just dismiss the "extra" seven hours. You fly much from LA to London? Not so bad for the existing teams, but for THIS team... cmon, man.


I dont know how many pro soccer teams play overseas, but, do they play every other day ? Or once a week. that should not be a big thing for soccer players- american football guys have done that for a while now.NBA and NHL and MLB have games every other day, or 2 in the same day .
I forgot what my point was. sorry
 
2012-12-15 04:32:22 AM  
If hockey winds up dissolving back into Original Six-esque teams, I DEMAND we get Rugby going as the successor to a proper 'action' sport.

/Basketball doesn't count. Shiat still stops way too often.
//Personal Reason: Alternative Rugby Commentary. Jedi is frickin' hilarious.
 
2012-12-15 04:37:18 AM  

alienated: I sound fat: alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.

I love how you just dismiss the "extra" seven hours. You fly much from LA to London? Not so bad for the existing teams, but for THIS team... cmon, man.

I dont know how many pro soccer teams play overseas, but, do they play every other day ? Or once a week. that should not be a big thing for soccer players- american football guys have done that for a while now.NBA and NHL and MLB have games every other day, or 2 in the same day .
I forgot what my point was. sorry


European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.
 
2012-12-15 04:41:00 AM  

Nefarious: I would like to welcome the NY Cosmos back to soccer


The Cosmos aren't coming back to MLS. They have no money to do so. Anyways MLS already registered cityfc.com for the team, so I'm guessing it will just be called New York City FC with a similar crest to Man City and the same colours.
 
2012-12-15 05:10:52 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.


and cup competitions, etc. For instance, Chelsea will play in Tokyo on Sunday in the World Club Cup, will play in Leeds on Wednesday in the League Cup Quarter Final, play 4 league games on the 23rd, 26th, 30th, & 2nd Jan, then play in Southampton on the 6th in the FA Cup.
 
2012-12-15 05:21:02 AM  

sloughtown4ever: Sir Cumference the Flatulent: European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.

and cup competitions, etc. For instance, Chelsea will play in Tokyo on Sunday in the World Club Cup, will play in Leeds on Wednesday in the League Cup Quarter Final, play 4 league games on the 23rd, 26th, 30th, & 2nd Jan, then play in Southampton on the 6th in the FA Cup.


You're right. I missed those. Blame it on the lack of coffee.
 
2012-12-15 05:48:13 AM  
theres way too much oil money out there
 
2012-12-15 05:57:26 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent:

You're right. I missed those. Blame it on the lack of coffee.


In the semi-professional/non-league ranks it gets worse. I know that from February-May 2005, my home town team Slough pretty much played Saturday-Tuesday-Thursday all the while the players were working normal 40 hour weeks. There was also the anomolous season where they went into their last league having played 40 games, with one game having not been rescheduled. Had they won the 3 o'clock kick off on the Saturday, they would have had to travel and play the 42nd game at 7:45pm that same day. Luckily, they lost so it was moot.
 
2012-12-15 06:24:57 AM  
Hahahahaha suck it Metros! Even your own city doesn't want you.
 
2012-12-15 06:44:51 AM  
so where does that money go to , the franchise fee...? I'm not sure how that works.
 
2012-12-15 06:47:20 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: alienated: I sound fat: alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.

I love how you just dismiss the "extra" seven hours. You fly much from LA to London? Not so bad for the existing teams, but for THIS team... cmon, man.

I dont know how many pro soccer teams play overseas, but, do they play every other day ? Or once a week. that should not be a big thing for soccer players- american football guys have done that for a while now.NBA and NHL and MLB have games every other day, or 2 in the same day .
I forgot what my point was. sorry

European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.


and league cup games, inter-league games within the country as well.
 
2012-12-15 07:20:07 AM  
So they will follow the Man City way?

A team full of over paid children who don't care about the club.
 
2012-12-15 07:44:53 AM  
Didn't I read that they have all the stadium money already raised so they can do it without tax payer assistance
 
2012-12-15 07:52:29 AM  
And WHERE is my weekend EPL thread?
 
2012-12-15 08:20:27 AM  
So, since it's MLS, it'll be sort of a developmental league team for ManU?
 
2012-12-15 08:54:52 AM  

alienated: I am really not a soccer fan, but, this seems like a bad move. Beckham just helped the la galaxy win a championship, la ( mostly ) hates ny, so why, aside from the extra 7 hours flight time, would they not do this in Southern California ? The fan base is there- even the radio and tv casters love the guy ....
Hell, I think the guy is cool, and talented, and I really dont like soccer.


Because LA already has 2 teams.
 
2012-12-15 09:18:11 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: So, since it's MLS, it'll be sort of a developmental league team for ManU?


No, this is Sheik Mansour's group, so if it was to be a feeder, it'd be for City. But I doubt that's what they were going for here.
 
2012-12-15 09:21:23 AM  

ADubs86: Cheesehead_Dave: So, since it's MLS, it'll be sort of a developmental league team for ManU?

No, this is Sheik Mansour's group, so if it was to be a feeder, it'd be for City. But I doubt that's what they were going for here.


And that would be impossible with MLS player rules. The team doesn't own the contact, but MLS does.
 
2012-12-15 09:27:06 AM  
I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.
 
2012-12-15 09:36:09 AM  

Stimied in a Rut: I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.


Would love to see some good footy here in PHX. Have been eagerly following Phoenix FCs organization efforts. We even already have a fan org as well!
 
2012-12-15 09:46:44 AM  

Stimied in a Rut: I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.


Exactly the thing missing from American sports. Maybe baseball teams like KC and Pittsburgh would try to do something to improve if they had the threat of relegation hanging over their heads.
 
2012-12-15 09:52:18 AM  
TFH: Manchester FC confirm they will drop record $100 million on MLS expansion franchise...

TFA: Manchester City today denied it was to become an MLS owner.

Um...

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Exactly the thing missing from American sports. Maybe baseball teams like KC and Pittsburgh would try to do something to improve if they had the threat of relegation hanging over their heads.


Wait, they don't? I thought that's why the Astros were being sent down to the AL.
 
2012-12-15 09:56:47 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: TFH: Manchester FC confirm they will drop record $100 million on MLS expansion franchise...

TFA: Manchester City today denied it was to become an MLS owner.

Um...

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Exactly the thing missing from American sports. Maybe baseball teams like KC and Pittsburgh would try to do something to improve if they had the threat of relegation hanging over their heads.

Wait, they don't? I thought that's why the Astros were being sent down to the AL.


That goes in cycles..the AL is stronger for a few years, then the NL for a few years.. Wipe hands on pants. Besides, at least the Astros have shown some attempt at competence this century.
 
2012-12-15 10:25:23 AM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Olympic Trolling Judge:
Wait, they don't? I thought that's why the Astros were being sent down to the AL.

That goes in cycles..the AL is stronger for a few years, then the NL for a few years.. Wipe hands on pants. Besides, at least the Astros have shown some attempt at competence this century.


While the NL is on a ASG and WS win streak, the AL has won the season matchups -every- year.
 
2012-12-15 10:27:47 AM  

RminusQ: Maybe now that New York has its own team, Red Bulls can rename themselves after their actual location.


pag1107: Hahahahaha suck it Metros! Even your own city doesn't want you.


Somehow, Red Bull Harrison New Jersey doesn't quite roll off the tongue.
 
2012-12-15 10:36:02 AM  

sloughtown4ever: Sir Cumference the Flatulent: European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.

and cup competitions, etc. For instance, Chelsea will play in Tokyo on Sunday in the World Club Cup, will play in Leeds on Wednesday in the League Cup Quarter Final, play 4 league games on the 23rd, 26th, 30th, & 2nd Jan, then play in Southampton on the 6th in the FA Cup.


Yes, but Chelsea has enough money and players that they will field what amounts to a JV team when they believe they can afford to. So its not like the same 14 players are globe hopping and playing a ton of successive games.
 
2012-12-15 10:44:41 AM  

RminusQ: Fark yeah Hudson River Derby.

Maybe now that New York has its own team, Red Bulls can rename themselves after their actual location.


And that's why we have the New Jersey Jets!

/oh wait.
 
2012-12-15 10:50:50 AM  

DemoKnite: sloughtown4ever: Sir Cumference the Flatulent: European leagues usually play once a week, although there are sometimes midweek games scheduled because of international competition requirements.

and cup competitions, etc. For instance, Chelsea will play in Tokyo on Sunday in the World Club Cup, will play in Leeds on Wednesday in the League Cup Quarter Final, play 4 league games on the 23rd, 26th, 30th, & 2nd Jan, then play in Southampton on the 6th in the FA Cup.

Yes, but Chelsea has enough money and players that they will field what amounts to a JV team when they believe they can afford to. So its not like the same 14 players are globe hopping and playing a ton of successive games.


of course they can. Then you get Arsene Wenger or Roberto Mancini complaining their players are tired when they're playing twice a week.
 
2012-12-15 11:03:01 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: And that's why we have the New Jersey Jets!

/oh wait.


Don't forget the Arlington Cowboys and Landover Redskins!
 
2012-12-15 11:11:26 AM  

The Bestest: cameroncrazy1984: And that's why we have the New Jersey Jets!

/oh wait.

Don't forget the Arlington Cowboys and Landover Redskins!


And, for that matter, the Orchard Park Bills!
 
2012-12-15 11:15:52 AM  

Stimied in a Rut: I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.


I would love that, mostly because the Kickers are an easy cheap ticket.

Also, why is Beckham still so popular? He's a right winter with no pace, a terrible tackled and has not been a great player outside of dead balls since 2002.
 
2012-12-15 11:41:24 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: The Bestest: cameroncrazy1984: And that's why we have the New Jersey Jets!

/oh wait.

Don't forget the Arlington Cowboys and Landover Redskins!

And, for that matter, the Orchard Park Bills!


The Nassau County Islanders and the Missouri Royals concur.
 
2012-12-15 11:48:49 AM  
If this happens, does this mean the Red Bulls have to go through a brand re-imaging and now be known as New York United?
 
2012-12-15 12:08:56 PM  

Lee's_Austin: If this happens, does this mean the Red Bulls have to go through a brand re-imaging and now be known as New York United?


Probably not. For that renaming to be appropriate, it'd require a league title or two. And the Red Bulls trophy case is about as full as the Chargers' trophy case. Sigh...

Either way, if this rumor is true, it'd be a smart move if they offered to buy the Cosmos name and use that instead of going the Chivas route.

And let's be realistic here; there's NEVER going to be promotion/relegation in American soccer. You really think team owners/managers would ever be on board with that idea? No way in hell.
 
2012-12-15 12:56:47 PM  
While I think that adding another team inthe NYC market would be great for the league, it sure would be nice to get some of the top European players while still in their prime.
 
2012-12-15 03:07:46 PM  

alienated: BloodFireDeath: You do realize Beckham is famous throughout the entire world, right? Also, the sport is HUGELY popular in the northeast. Lastly Beckham isn't just loved in LA, he's David Beckham, you could throw him onto any team in any place and he would be hugely popular

Aye. Thats why I am trying to get you soccer fans to want this to happen in los angeles. 100 mil is not really chickenfeed . I want the Becks Bucks, HERE.


Los Angeles technically has two MLS teams already. That's quite a good reason to not want to set up there.
 
2012-12-15 03:26:03 PM  

Stimied in a Rut: I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.


It's a good dream.
(Except my Revs will get relegated in the first season)
 
2012-12-15 04:21:13 PM  
New York Monarchs?

Dickensbockers?
 
2012-12-15 04:27:32 PM  

macadamnut: New York Monarchs?

Dickensbockers?


Chivas City FC
 
2012-12-15 05:19:58 PM  

Jedekai: If hockey winds up dissolving back into Original Six-esque teams, I DEMAND we get Rugby going as the successor to a proper 'action' sport.

/Basketball doesn't count. Shiat still stops way too often.
//Personal Reason: Alternative Rugby Commentary. Jedi is frickin' hilarious.


Rugby Sevens is pretty rad also.
 
2012-12-15 06:21:44 PM  
Relegation will never happen or work in North America.
 
2012-12-15 07:37:51 PM  

studs up: Stimied in a Rut: I just hope MLS stops expanding with 20 teams and starts trying to get a 2nd division going so we can finally have a proper promotion relegation system going. Teams like Orlando and Phoenix FC are getting enough support from their fans and City that they could pull in clubs like the Charleston Battery and Rochester Rhinos and the Richmond kickers to get a good 10 team 2nd division going.

That's my dream anyway.

It's a good dream.
(Except my Revs will get relegated in the first season)


I'd welcome that if it meant we could run Mike Burns out on a rail.
 
2012-12-15 08:03:19 PM  
So where does this $100M franchise fee goto? How does that work?
 
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