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(Telegraph)   The reason you pay so much for milk and bread at the supermarket is because the supermarket needs to overcharge you for everyday food items in order to afford to sell its alcohol at low, low prices   (telegraph.co.uk) divider line 24
    More: Unlikely, Royal College of Physicians, alcohol misuse, middle class, Newcastle University  
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2012-12-14 09:43:25 PM  
3 votes:
But this is in the UK, not the USA. You know-so no one cares.
2012-12-15 08:13:28 AM  
2 votes:
Booze prices in MI are set by the Liquor Control Commission here in MI. There is a minimum price that stores can not drop below.
As mentioned already, milk is also price-regulated throughout the country.
As is fuel.
And all agricultural products are subsidized, which is the same thing, really.
Banks get bailed out when they fail.
As do megalithic auto companies.
Individuals are financially subsidized for life by the government as well, even ones who are not US citizens.

It kind of makes you wonder what ever happened to that whole free-market economy based on supply and demand, doesn't it? Gee, I wonder why the economy isn't working like it is supposed to...hmm....

Price regulation and subsidizing are communist, not capitalist. In capitalism there are losers, and the losers are allowed to fail and die. This No Business Left Behind crap is not just foolish, it is un-American.
2012-12-15 06:48:19 AM  
2 votes:
Shut up Cameron, you Tory wankstain.

The attempt by the government to set a minimum price on alcohol is nothing new. I think that was Labour's plan as well. What is new is justifying it based on the purely economic analysis found in one article in a medical journal of all places. Pathetic. How stupid does he think we are?

Secondly, Cameron isn't middle class. He's pure toff, through and through. I'm middle class but next to him I look like Rab C Nesbitt. If he actually wants to legitimately serve the needs of the middle class and the working class, something I doubt very much, then he needs to listen to the people instead of telling us what we need.

Here's the first hint: we don't need to pay more for lager.
2012-12-15 01:45:27 AM  
2 votes:
If you agree to the price, you're not being overcharged.
2012-12-15 12:42:18 AM  
2 votes:
Milk in the US is expensive because Congress mandates a minimum price. Why does Congress hate children with rickets?
2012-12-14 11:52:41 PM  
2 votes:
Grocery stores often charge less for certain staple items like meat (i forget what the term is called. Loss leader?) than they can make a profit on so they can get you in the store, and then inflate prices for convenience items to make up for it.

That being said, at least in the U.S., milk prices are intentionally inflated by the government or else dairies could not possibly make any kind of money providing it. The supply/demand curve and the cost of maintaining livestock is such that it would be impossible for dairys to sell milk anywhere close to the cost it requires to produce it.
2012-12-15 04:56:08 PM  
1 votes:

bratface: Is there a 'Middle Class Only' section in the supermarket that I'm not aware of?


All of Waitrose.
2012-12-15 03:22:17 PM  
1 votes:

bratface: Is there a 'Middle Class Only' section in the supermarket that I'm not aware of?


Yes, it's the part where they sell fresh fruits and vegetables.
2012-12-15 01:55:22 PM  
1 votes:

ladyfortuna: ramblinwreck: jm105: They sell alcohol at supermarkets?

/Lives in PA

In CA, grocery stores sell everything. Booze, wine, beer...everything. I move to MS after getting orders...holy cow, these people are clueless on how other states operate.

Allow me to demonstrate: NSFW in general but this one isn't too bad


I would laugh at that, but it is a little too true. My local California gas station went from just selling gas to now being a head shop as well. You can buy bongs, rolling papers and other things in the store. It also has a Taco truck parked in front of it pretty much permanently. The buck fifty tamales are pretty good.
2012-12-15 09:53:52 AM  
1 votes:

MorteDiem: Oznog: Ambivalence: Grocery stores often charge less for certain staple items like meat (i forget what the term is called. Loss leader?) than they can make a profit on so they can get you in the store, and then inflate prices for convenience items to make up for it.

That being said, at least in the U.S., milk prices are intentionally inflated by the government or else dairies could not possibly make any kind of money providing it. The supply/demand curve and the cost of maintaining livestock is such that it would be impossible for dairys to sell milk anywhere close to the cost it requires to produce it.

Milk, bread, vegetables and other fresh food are MUCH harder to stock, logistically.

They require refrigeration, non-compact shelf usage, and/or careful handling. And almost all are perishable and what doesn't sell has to get thrown out or discounted. Thus you have to be careful not to order too much, too, you can't just keep extra milk around until it sells.

This is the reason the processed food industry really exists. If milk really could be left in a 1L or 2L plastic bottle on a room-temp space in a nonrefrigerated truck, storeroom, and store shelf, it'd be much easier to carry and would sell a lot better.

Never heard of aseptic packaging? In Mexico, 95% of the milk sold is non-refrigerated and shelf stable.


It's also virtually undrinkable.
2012-12-15 09:00:09 AM  
1 votes:
Not a problem in the states. We keep the cost high with plenty of sin tax.
2012-12-15 07:12:20 AM  
1 votes:

Smackledorfer: It wouldn't make a difference. I have to go back to the store for eggs and fresh fruits and vegetables once a week anyways. Milk lasts plenty long for me. Though I have heard the aseptic stuff has a better taste. But I don't really have a leg to stand on regarding milk taste: I drink skim.


That is not milk... it is colored water.
2012-12-15 06:49:35 AM  
1 votes:
Joke's on you, supermarket! Alcohol IS an everyday food item!

=Smidge=
2012-12-15 04:56:01 AM  
1 votes:
i.telegraph.co.uk

"Hmm... So this is what dinner looks like before the servants assemble it..."
2012-12-15 03:15:12 AM  
1 votes:
This is why I buy bread at the bakery outlet store. 77 cents a loaf for the same exact brand of bread I can buy at the grocery store for almost $3/loaf. Buy 7 or 8 loaves at a time, throw em in the freezer, get them when needed.

There's a raw milk group around here that offers their stuff at the equivalent of $2/gallon (can't "buy" it, but you buy shares of the farm and the milk is "free" for pet consumption), but...no.
2012-12-15 03:13:18 AM  
1 votes:
54 in and nobody did Been caught stealing Yet ? for shame. FOR SHAME !
2012-12-15 01:52:56 AM  
1 votes:

jm105: They sell alcohol at supermarkets?

/Lives in PA


In CA, grocery stores sell everything. Booze, wine, beer...everything. I move to MS after getting orders...holy cow, these people are clueless on how other states operate.
2012-12-15 01:10:49 AM  
1 votes:
Blaming the drunk and disorderly! What else would you expect from an upper class twit.
2012-12-15 01:05:01 AM  
1 votes:

Smackledorfer: OgreMagi: Ambivalence: Grocery stores often charge less for certain staple items like meat (i forget what the term is called. Loss leader?) than they can make a profit on so they can get you in the store, and then inflate prices for convenience items to make up for it.

That being said, at least in the U.S., milk prices are intentionally inflated by the government or else dairies could not possibly make any kind of money providing it. The supply/demand curve and the cost of maintaining livestock is such that it would be impossible for dairys to sell milk anywhere close to the cost it requires to produce it.

Bullshiat. Supply and Demand. Economics 101. The price would fall below production costs for a while because there are too many producers competing in a limited market. The fall in price would drive some out of business, thus reducing the supply to match the actual demand with the price stabilizing to the market value.

Sure, but it is healthy for a nation to NOT let supply and demand minimize food production. Ramping down production is easy. Ramping it back up is significantly more work.

Fat is better than famine.

Also bread and circuses are good even if you aren't as bad off as the Roman empire.


Yeah, agriculture isn't something a society wants to have dictated only by supply and demand.
2012-12-15 01:00:19 AM  
1 votes:
My grocery store doesn't sell booze. Stop posting everything on Daily Fail.
2012-12-15 12:53:25 AM  
1 votes:
Well, my story for tonight is...

Going to the corner store to get a few things... talking with the owner, a very nice man, when this...woman (?) rushes in, grabs to tall cans of some sort of beer (never seen the brand before)... starts paying with coinage, and gets all puzzled when it's about 10-15 cents more than she had estimated (or bought before)... then realized that she grabbed another brand than her accounting planned for. She fussed but drops the extra change (but had taken a few pennies out of the "leave a penny / take a penny" dish... (we are taking this was under 5$ in total).

She states "keep the change" but at the door she turns around and ask for her 6 cents... the owner tells her that she had used the "leave a penny / take a penny" for the difference, and had simply placed her 6 cents back in it. So she takes off a bit peeves about it.

About this time I get t actually see her face...

All it reminded me of was one of "the faces of meth" older short hair blond woman.

Just sad... just so terribly sad to see people do this to themselves and "enjoying it"....
2012-12-15 12:48:29 AM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: Grocery stores often charge less for certain staple items like meat (i forget what the term is called. Loss leader?) than they can make a profit on so they can get you in the store, and then inflate prices for convenience items to make up for it.

That being said, at least in the U.S., milk prices are intentionally inflated by the government or else dairies could not possibly make any kind of money providing it. The supply/demand curve and the cost of maintaining livestock is such that it would be impossible for dairys to sell milk anywhere close to the cost it requires to produce it.


Milk, bread, vegetables and other fresh food are MUCH harder to stock, logistically.

They require refrigeration, non-compact shelf usage, and/or careful handling. And almost all are perishable and what doesn't sell has to get thrown out or discounted. Thus you have to be careful not to order too much, too, you can't just keep extra milk around until it sells.

This is the reason the processed food industry really exists. If milk really could be left in a 1L or 2L plastic bottle on a room-temp space in a nonrefrigerated truck, storeroom, and store shelf, it'd be much easier to carry and would sell a lot better.
2012-12-15 12:44:46 AM  
1 votes:

Ambivalence: Grocery stores often charge less for certain staple items like meat (i forget what the term is called. Loss leader?) than they can make a profit on so they can get you in the store, and then inflate prices for convenience items to make up for it.

That being said, at least in the U.S., milk prices are intentionally inflated by the government or else dairies could not possibly make any kind of money providing it. The supply/demand curve and the cost of maintaining livestock is such that it would be impossible for dairys to sell milk anywhere close to the cost it requires to produce it.


Bullshiat. Supply and Demand. Economics 101. The price would fall below production costs for a while because there are too many producers competing in a limited market. The fall in price would drive some out of business, thus reducing the supply to match the actual demand with the price stabilizing to the market value.
2012-12-14 11:02:10 PM  
1 votes:
I have gathered, after hanging around Fark, that if you drink enough beer you don't need bread, plus the Tums taken for the alcoholic gastritis supply all the calcium one needs.

Should I get out more I wonder.
 
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