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2012-12-14 07:24:57 PM  
Wither or whether the child was eligible is immaterial.

Educate and Feed American children now, please.

Whatever the cost.

I mean it.

Thank you for reading.

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2012-12-14 07:26:33 PM  
Considering the family is probably receiving welfare or some sort of assistance, how hard is it to use that money to buy some peanut butter and slap it between two pieces of bread? There is no reason a parent can't make a kid some sort of lunch no matter how poor, especially when it's supplied by the government.

The poorest people in this country still have 42" televisions and playstations.
 
2012-12-14 07:27:32 PM  

special20: Lsherm: She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed.

You mean... she vasinnt followink orrrrders?


More like she ended up purposely avoiding school policy twice instead of trying to fix the actual problem.

I'd give her a pass if she didn't start her story admitting that she knew what the problem was - this kid hadn't been renewed for the free lunch plan. If she had told anyone else about it he probably would have been back on it. Hell, she could have gotten an exemption.

Doesn't matter - she's hired back. Moot point.
 
2012-12-14 07:28:04 PM  
I worked at a school once, and occasionally ran a POS terminal on busy days, since I set up and maintained the terminals and knew them as well as anyone.

I used to do this for some kids, though I would just ring it as a cash sale and pay out of pocket so the register balanced.
 
2012-12-14 07:28:14 PM  

blunto: Considering the family is probably receiving welfare or some sort of assistance, how hard is it to use that money to buy some peanut butter and slap it between two pieces of bread? There is no reason a parent can't make a kid some sort of lunch no matter how poor, especially when it's supplied by the government.

The poorest people in this country still have 42" televisions and playstations.

Exactly?

 
2012-12-14 07:28:18 PM  

Ramit Bawdeep: So now we're f*cking teaching our kids to be goddamn communists? Our country is already headed down that path for f*ck's sake. They should make the kid wash some dishes in trade for a damn cheese sandwich. Teach the little twerp that you don't get crap for free; maybe they should get a damn job sewing on doll's eyes or something. That lunch lady is no hero. She's teaching the next generation to be victims and to just cry louder and louder until you get what you want. Maybe she should be a farmer. Then can give away all the food she grows and find out firsthand how many people will go hungry next year when she can't afford to even grow any crops anymore.


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2012-12-14 07:28:26 PM  

carnifex2005: Lsherm: scottydoesntknow: She was trying to protect him from the bullying: a cruel side dish to the default cheese sandwich given to kids without lunch money.

It's sad when prisoners are fed better

Federal prisoners, maybe. As someone who spent an awful weekend in a New Orleans jail back in the 90's - nope. We got five potato chips each as breakfast the first morning.

Reminds me of something I saw on Reddit...

School lunch in Finland...



School lunch in Sweden...



School lunch in South Korea...



School lunch in the USA... 


If you gave a meals like these to American kids they would throw it in the trash and hit the vending machines.
 
2012-12-14 07:29:21 PM  
This is why the only people I ever help in any way outside of my family are people who will never see my face more than once (namely, the one time I help them) and will never know my name. No good deed ever goes unpunished.

/I know this isn't the thread about The Onion's coverage about the shooting, but just.... f*ck everything
 
2012-12-14 07:29:53 PM  

spmkk: Lsherm: "Note she wasn't paying for his lunch and then sending him through. Kudos to her for trying to get him back on the program. His parents didn't, but since the kid didn't suffer any negative consequences, why would they?

She didn't tell the kid "no" and explain why, and she didn't pay for the food she was giving away. She was solving a problem that didn't need to exist with a short-term solution she knew was wrong. Her "solution" didn't fix the real problem.

She's a lunch lady. Run it up the chain if there's a starving student. If you aren't willing to do that, buy the kid lunch with your own money until you realize it's a stupid solution and the kid's parents should get back on the free meal plan."


From the sound of it, she couldn't afford to pay for the kid's lunches. She was trying to affect a long-term solution, but she realized that in the interim, the kid needed to eat. She also realized that if she didn't feed him, he'd go hungry. I'm not big on the whole Robin Hood thing in general, but in this case her actions are perfectly defensible and in fact honorable.

Also -- it's important to note that she wasn't taking these lunches from anyone that wasn't willing to give them away. The kid wasn't officially getting them for free not because he wasn't entitled to them, but because his parents lagged on the paperwork. In other words, she was "stealing" food from a party that was willing (and had actively offered) to give it away for free...or in plain English, she wasn't stealing.


This!
 
2012-12-14 07:30:09 PM  

Lsherm: special20: Lsherm: She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed.

You mean... she vasinnt followink orrrrders?

More like she ended up purposely avoiding school policy twice instead of trying to fix the actual problem.

I'd give her a pass if she didn't start her story admitting that she knew what the problem was - this kid hadn't been renewed for the free lunch plan. If she had told anyone else about it he probably would have been back on it. Hell, she could have gotten an exemption.

Doesn't matter - she's hired back. Moot point.


Oh, fark you! Feeding a child should never be considered a bad thing.
 
2012-12-14 07:30:27 PM  

Ramit Bawdeep: So now we're f*cking teaching our kids to be goddamn communists? Our country is already headed down that path for f*ck's sake. They should make the kid wash some dishes in trade for a damn cheese sandwich. Teach the little twerp that you don't get crap for free; maybe they should get a damn job sewing on doll's eyes or something. That lunch lady is no hero. She's teaching the next generation to be victims and to just cry louder and louder until you get what you want. Maybe she should be a farmer. Then can give away all the food she grows and find out firsthand how many people will go hungry next year when she can't afford to even grow any crops anymore.


you know that Jesus was a commie, right?
 
2012-12-14 07:32:00 PM  

Rent Party: Yeah, sorry kid, you'll just have to go hungry until the district can come up with an interpreter to let your parents know they need to fill out these here forms in order for you to eat. In the mean time, tough shiat.


Ahem:

She was trying to protect him from the bullying: a cruel side dish to the default cheese sandwich given to kids without lunch money. "The kids would ridicule and tell them, ah you don't have any money, that's why you have to eat cheese sandwiches every day," Brame says.

Rent Party: Realistically, you're a disgrace to the nation. You're a bad person, and should feel bad.


Realistically, you're an illiterate idiot. The kid didn't go hungry either way, and you're wrong. How's it feel?
 
2012-12-14 07:32:00 PM  

dogsmycopilot: I want to know what was going on at home.
Free and reduced lunches are not hard to get.

When my son was in first grade the lunch lady called herself helping, being charitable, but what she was really doing was feeding a clever child a second breakfast of stuff, like Honey Buns, that he liked as opposed to the real food I was serving at home.


So... You're syaing this kid may have been jetting home for lunch and then coming back and plying the idiotic lunchb*tch for damn seconds? WTF? What a damn manipulative hog. That's what communism teaches you: look out for #1; f*ck everybody else (twice).
 
2012-12-14 07:32:37 PM  

murryantoinette: we grew up poor but our parents despite all their faults always kept us fed and loved us even if they didn't always do it the best way possible. It always seemed every one else around us had more, but then I grew up and looked around and realized we actually had it pretty good. I once stopped in a border town between Thailand and Cambodia where the children where shot with pellets when they begged for food. Ive seen mistreated kids right here in North America, we've all seen it and we've seen how the banks of nearly every nation on this planet break our economies and stretch further the divide between the haves and have nots. yet the system calls these people role models and calls a lady feeding a kid from our tax money a thief. shame on any one who calls her a thief or what she did stealing when fats cats of this world are robbing us all blind. what she did was a community service paid for by tax payers dollars. and I promise you that a free lunch for someone less fortunate than ourselves costs our communities a lot less than the price of doing doing nothing. Think about it.


There are (lots of) people here in America who love the idea of poor children starving so much that I'm convinced they masturbate at the thought of it.

/many of them are "Christian"
//they pay lip-service to getting rid of government charity, but then they don't want to replace it with anything else
///except maybe CCA debtors' prisons
 
2012-12-14 07:32:58 PM  

Snapper Carr: Seems like a better solution would be to take the cost of the kid's lunch out of her wages - kid gets fed, school gets its money, everyone's happy


/of course the optimal solution would have been to provide some bilingual assistance to the parent so that the kid could stay on the free lunch program


No, no it wouldn't. That would be a solution, but not an optimal solution.

/Teach a man to fish..
//Why yes, I have sat down with friends from other countries and assisted them with tasks in English, why do you ask?
 
2012-12-14 07:33:50 PM  
 
2012-12-14 07:34:04 PM  
The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.
 
2012-12-14 07:34:16 PM  
FTFA:

"I sent them paperwork so that they could get back in contact with me, but it didn't happen," she says.

"I let his account get over $45 which I'm only supposed to let it get over $10, and I started letting him come through my lunch line without putting his number in, and they look at that as stealing. I thought it was just taking care of a kid


If the paperwork isn't returned and the kid is nixed from program, there isn't a protocol to kick this to admin? Same with the account limit; she was keeping records, who (if anyone) reviewed maxed-out accounts? Admin. doesn't want to know how many of their students require this service and are no longer eligible owing to nonpayment? Indications are this is allowed to pass into the realm of a private sector solution, so district can wash their hands of it. The Chartwell's drone that did the firing should be beaten with nylons that have a couple pounds of sand knotted into the toes - Could have worked this situation into good PR (raise worker's pay - feed the farking kid - `we care!', etc...). It's not like Chartwell's (CompassUSA/Compass Group PLC) doesn't get a good deal on donated commodities from the USDA. Having the `lunch lady' take the fall for an public/private `one size fits all' partnership isn't very smart on any level.
 
2012-12-14 07:34:27 PM  

vrax: Lsherm: special20: Lsherm: She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed.

You mean... she vasinnt followink orrrrders?

More like she ended up purposely avoiding school policy twice instead of trying to fix the actual problem.

I'd give her a pass if she didn't start her story admitting that she knew what the problem was - this kid hadn't been renewed for the free lunch plan. If she had told anyone else about it he probably would have been back on it. Hell, she could have gotten an exemption.

Doesn't matter - she's hired back. Moot point.

Oh, fark you! Feeding a child should never be considered a bad thing.


THE farkING KID GOT FED EITHER WAY YOU STUPID BLEEDING HEART!

She was sneaking him food to keep him from being bullied, but every kid got fed regardless of whether or not they had money. And this kid could have gotten the "cool" lunch if she had followed up with administrators so his parents got him back on the free lunch program.
 
2012-12-14 07:34:49 PM  

JohnCarter: Lsherm: But recently, she came across a fourth grader who consistently came without money. She says he used to be on the free lunch program, but language barriers got in the way of reapplying: "I sent them paperwork so that they could get back in contact with me, but it didn't happen," she says.
For days, Brame snuck the boy lunches. She explains, "I let his account get over $45 which I'm only supposed to let it get over $10, and I started letting him come through my lunch line without putting his number in, and they look at that as stealing. I thought it was just taking care of a kid."

Note she wasn't paying for his lunch and then sending him through. Kudos to her for trying to get him back on the program. His parents didn't, but since the kid didn't suffer any negative consequences, why would they?

She didn't tell the kid "no" and explain why, and she didn't pay for the food she was giving away. She was solving a problem that didn't need to exist with a short-term solution she knew was wrong. Her "solution" didn't fix the real problem.

She's a lunch lady. Run it up the chain if there's a starving student. If you aren't willing to do that, buy the kid lunch with your own money until you realize it's a stupid solution and the kid's parents should get back on the free meal plan.

Exactly - there are solutions, that were actually in place, that actually seemed to work.


Well, seeing as the kid still didn't have money for lunch the solutions did not seem to work in this case.
 
2012-12-14 07:35:38 PM  

revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.


Don't worry, the food will trickle down on them any second now.
 
2012-12-14 07:35:51 PM  

blunto: Considering the family is probably receiving welfare or some sort of assistance, how hard is it to use that money to buy some peanut butter and slap it between two pieces of bread? There is no reason a parent can't make a kid some sort of lunch no matter how poor, especially when it's supplied by the government.

The poorest people in this country still have 42" televisions and playstations.


Peanut butter? In public schools? Is that even still allowed anywhere?
 
2012-12-14 07:36:26 PM  
This is the US of A and if there is one thing I know for sure, the kid should be punished and go hungry for the shortcomings and failings of the system and adults who are supposed to take care of him.
 
2012-12-14 07:36:30 PM  

Lsherm:

THE farkING KID GOT FED EITHER WAY YOU STUPID BLEEDING HEART!

She was sneaking him food to keep him from being bullied, but every kid got fed regardless of whether or not they had money. And this kid could have gotten the "cool" lunch if she had followed up with administrators so his parents got him back on the free lunch program.


so you wanted to force the kid to eat the plastic sandwich of shame and get bullied...? why would you do that? seems kind of cruel to me.
 
2012-12-14 07:37:30 PM  

ShannonKW: buckler: johncb76006: ShannonKW: Giving away things that do not belong to you is not charity.

It is if You're a Democrat.

If I were not an atheist, allowing children to starve for any reason would be a primary sin, regardless of politics.

Do you believe that the child in question was starving?


I believe that if he or she were deprived of food when it was available to give, that could constitute the definition if she or he were hungry.
 
2012-12-14 07:37:38 PM  
More testicles means more iron.

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2012-12-14 07:38:36 PM  

Lsherm: For fark's sake, she let his balance run up, THEN had him stop running his card so it wouldn't register on the balance.

She had the right solution in the first place - get the kid back on the free meal program. I said that. Instead of following up on that, she actively circumvented every control she knew about to give him free food without trying to compensate anyone for it.

She was right, then she was wrong. Be realistic.


Erm...the kid couldn't fill out the paperwork, and the parents weren't. I don't know what world you live in, but sometimes parents don't take care of kids, either because they can't or won't.

Should she have paid for them? Yes. But firing her isn't the right response either--we can tailor punishment to fit the crime.
 
2012-12-14 07:39:22 PM  

Weaver95: Ramit Bawdeep: So now we're f*cking teaching our kids to be goddamn communists? Our country is already headed down that path for f*ck's sake. They should make the kid wash some dishes in trade for a damn cheese sandwich. Teach the little twerp that you don't get crap for free; maybe they should get a damn job sewing on doll's eyes or something. That lunch lady is no hero. She's teaching the next generation to be victims and to just cry louder and louder until you get what you want. Maybe she should be a farmer. Then can give away all the food she grows and find out firsthand how many people will go hungry next year when she can't afford to even grow any crops anymore.

you know that Jesus was a commie, right?


Damn skippy. A bleeding heart commie pussy with an Electra complex, so?
 
2012-12-14 07:41:08 PM  

MayoBoy: My kids are in the same district and when I read about it in the news this morning I went to the school to give them 100.00 to put in his lunch account. The secretary politely told me thank you but everything and everyone is taken care of.

Got an email from the Superintendent a few minutes ago that she and Chartwells had a little discussion and she starts back on Monday.


Things like this are why I am proud to be a Farker.
 
2012-12-14 07:41:35 PM  

zez: How the fark is anyone living in Webster Groves, Mo, too poor to be able to buy a school lunch?

Typical home in Webster 

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There are some very wealthy people in Webster. There are definitely people who are poor as well.

The elementary in question is the one that mainly serves kids from Rock Hill. It's not completely impoverished, but it sure as hell isn't the same as the nice part of Webster.

The same can be said about the Ladue School District and parts of Olivette.
 
2012-12-14 07:41:39 PM  

Weaver95: Lsherm:
Oh go fark yourself, you farking idiot. I know you're unemployed, so you're bored.

you sound mad.

She tried to do the right thing, and instead of keeping with it, she let the kid run up credit he didn't have until they called her on it, then she let him have food without running his card so she and he wouldn't get into trouble. She didn't keep trying to get the kid back on the program.

She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed....

and as we all know, it's FAR more important to follow The Rules than it is to be a decent f*cking human being. smash the weak! starve the poor! hey, it's what Jesus wanted from his followers, right?


I totally agree. That's why I feed the homeless by taking them to the grocery store and telling them to eat any thing they want, the store will cover the cost. Costs me nothing and I go to bed knowing that I did something to help the hungry.
 
2012-12-14 07:42:30 PM  

KarmaSpork: MayoBoy: My kids are in the same district and when I read about it in the news this morning I went to the school to give them 100.00 to put in his lunch account. The secretary politely told me thank you but everything and everyone is taken care of.

Got an email from the Superintendent a few minutes ago that she and Chartwells had a little discussion and she starts back on Monday.

Things like this are why I am proud to be a Farker.


Newsflash:

This just in.
 
2012-12-14 07:43:19 PM  

PsiChick: Erm...the kid couldn't fill out the paperwork, and the parents weren't. I don't know what world you live in, but sometimes parents don't take care of kids, either because they can't or won't.


Reminds me of one of the kids whose lunches I used to buy. Parents qualified for free lunches but wouldn't accept it because they were too proud to take any "government help". Hardly right that the little girl should suffer because her parents would rather she be hungry than fed by the government.
 
2012-12-14 07:43:22 PM  

Lsherm: vrax: Lsherm: special20: Lsherm: She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed.

You mean... she vasinnt followink orrrrders?

More like she ended up purposely avoiding school policy twice instead of trying to fix the actual problem.

I'd give her a pass if she didn't start her story admitting that she knew what the problem was - this kid hadn't been renewed for the free lunch plan. If she had told anyone else about it he probably would have been back on it. Hell, she could have gotten an exemption.

Doesn't matter - she's hired back. Moot point.

Oh, fark you! Feeding a child should never be considered a bad thing.

THE farkING KID GOT FED EITHER WAY YOU STUPID BLEEDING HEART!

She was sneaking him food to keep him from being bullied, but every kid got fed regardless of whether or not they had money. And this kid could have gotten the "cool" lunch if she had followed up with administrators so his parents got him back on the free lunch program.


And you could have chosen to not be an asshole in this thread. However, the cat's out of the bag. Her "mistake" was a sign of caring. Yours is the sign of a dick.
 
2012-12-14 07:43:30 PM  

shtychkn: Weaver95: Lsherm:
Oh go fark yourself, you farking idiot. I know you're unemployed, so you're bored.

you sound mad.

She tried to do the right thing, and instead of keeping with it, she let the kid run up credit he didn't have until they called her on it, then she let him have food without running his card so she and he wouldn't get into trouble. She didn't keep trying to get the kid back on the program.

She farked up. She tried to do the right thing at first, didn't follow up, then she didn't break just one policy, she broke two trying to keep food in that kid's mouth. If she had bothered to ask anyone for help to get him back on the free program, she would still have a job and that kid would still be getting fed....

and as we all know, it's FAR more important to follow The Rules than it is to be a decent f*cking human being. smash the weak! starve the poor! hey, it's what Jesus wanted from his followers, right?

I totally agree. That's why I feed the homeless by taking them to the grocery store and telling them to eat any thing they want, the store will cover the cost. Costs me nothing and I go to bed knowing that I did something to help the hungry.


I'm sure you know the difference between a taxpayer funded public school that is supposed to take care of kids and a for-profit grocery store. I mean, I have to believe you do.
 
2012-12-14 07:43:48 PM  

revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.


If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.
 
2012-12-14 07:44:04 PM  

giftedmadness: carnifex2005: Lsherm: scottydoesntknow: She was trying to protect him from the bullying: a cruel side dish to the default cheese sandwich given to kids without lunch money.

It's sad when prisoners are fed better

Federal prisoners, maybe. As someone who spent an awful weekend in a New Orleans jail back in the 90's - nope. We got five potato chips each as breakfast the first morning.

Reminds me of something I saw on Reddit...

School lunch in Finland...

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

School lunch in Sweden...

[i.imgur.com image 850x508]



School lunch in South Korea...

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

School lunch in the USA... 

[i.imgur.com image 850x637]

Lol American public schooling and the incompetent liberal unions who run them


damn that's a good troll.


Best to do it the republican way and not offer a school lunch. The free market will sort out who needs to eat.
 
2012-12-14 07:44:48 PM  

big pig peaches: revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.

If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.


Yes, yes, yes, it is the parent's fault, we all know that. Now how the hell does that help the kid who is going hungry?
 
2012-12-14 07:45:48 PM  

MayoBoy: My kids are in the same district and when I read about it in the news this morning I went to the school to give them 100.00 to put in his lunch account. The secretary politely told me thank you but everything and everyone is taken care of.

Got an email from the Superintendent a few minutes ago that she and Chartwells had a little discussion and she starts back on Monday.


Awesome gesture on your part (Seriously. Bravo), but fark them. The only reason they 'took care of it' was because of the bad press that would have cost the Superintendent his/her job. You can't say the principal wasn't aware of their 'empty bowls' (scroll down a little and look on the right) program to raise awareness for the hungry? Hopefully the principal is out of the office full time. Had this never made the news, that kind lady doing the right thing would be out of a job. I can't respect that kind of decision making on the principal's part.
 
2012-12-14 07:46:27 PM  
The candy store has a lunch lady action figure playset in the window. (The other one is Moses for some reason.)

I'm very tempted to buy it. Lunch Lady--Action Hero! Yaaaaay! She could them up with the Librarian to kick the asses of nutritional and informational wrong-doers everywhere--but especially in the Media-Industrial-Congressional--Educational Complex (MICE)!

Lunch Lady Doris (also the School Nurse) on The Simpsons was voiced by Doris Grau, who also played Doris on The Critic. She was a "script girl" or something of that ilk and much loved by those who worked with her in the TV and movie industry. She was pretty much playing herself, with her own unique gravelly Brooklyn smoker's growl. She died of cancer like the orginal Marlborough Man and the wife of the creator of modern advertising for industries including Big Tobacco.
 
2012-12-14 07:47:21 PM  

big pig peaches: revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.

If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.


"...that who...?"

Everything you said before is defunct.

*)
 
2012-12-14 07:47:39 PM  

thamike: [mymishmashmind.files.wordpress.com image 425x320]

"Why didn't he just ask his parents for food?"

 

mymishmashmind.files.wordpress.com

"Why didn't he just sell some stock from his trust fund to make ends meet?"
 
2012-12-14 07:49:09 PM  
"There's very little meat in these gym mats."

Lisa Simpson: "Isn't there anything here that doesn't have meat in it?"
Lunchlady Doris: "Possibly the meat loaf."

"It's full of bunny goodness."
 
2012-12-14 07:49:53 PM  

Pincy: big pig peaches: revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.

If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.

Yes, yes, yes, it is the parent's fault, we all know that. Now how the hell does that help the kid who is going hungry?


Child services.
 
2012-12-14 07:50:28 PM  
Remember, according to the GOP, giving a shiat about a kid is somehow bad.
 
2012-12-14 07:51:44 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: It baffles me that we, the human race, have the energy and resources to feed everyone Star Trek-style but refuse to do so because we cling to a 19th century model of scarcity and work. Yet many people desperately embrace the spaceship part while ignoring the human part of Star Trek. Why?


When you can promise me alien poon in go-go boots, I'll be a bit more open-minded.
 
2012-12-14 07:51:57 PM  

big pig peaches: Pincy: big pig peaches: revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.

If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.

Yes, yes, yes, it is the parent's fault, we all know that. Now how the hell does that help the kid who is going hungry?

Child services.


Which adds to the deficit, amirite?

FO.
 
2012-12-14 07:52:31 PM  

Rent Party: Lsherm:
She's a lunch lady. Run it up the chain if there's a starving student. If you aren't willing to do that, buy the kid lunch with your own money until you realize it's a stupid solution and the kid's parents should get back on the free meal plan.

"My husband died in February, I lost my home, car got repo'ed," she explains...

And yet she still manages to find sympathy for a poor kid and, ya know, feed him.

This lady is everything right about America, and you are everything wrong with it.


You. I like you.
 
2012-12-14 07:53:11 PM  
I've paid for kids' lunches many times - usually the district will let them run a tab up to $15, then they'll cut them off. No money, no lunch. The free/reduced price lunch forms are available in English and Spanish, but we have kids speaking eleven other first languages in my school alone. The application turnaround time is several days, which families don't necessarily understand.

The district is pushing families to apply online to save money and expedite the process, but unfortunately it just adds another barrier to those who really need the help. (There is certainly a lot of fraud, but I'd consider it a lesser evil than making kids go hungry.)

In their present form, school lunches should be a last resort for families, and by that I mean as an alternative to starvation. I've seen many kids arrive here (from SE Asia in particular) lean, fit and healthy, only to morph into obese and chronically ill kids within two to three years. They lack transportation, no longer have the ability grow and/or harvest their own food, and are bound to school desks thirty-five hours a week. Organized sports cost $, require transportation, and it's often not safe to be outside in the areas where they can afford to live.
 
2012-12-14 07:54:27 PM  

Indubitably: big pig peaches: Pincy: big pig peaches: revrendjim: The United States of America is by far the wealthiest nation on Earth. The fact that we even have hungry children is a moral failing.

If a kid goes hungry it's the parents that who failed. The are any number of programs, public and private they can avail themselves of. It just takes a little effort, like filling out a damn form.

Yes, yes, yes, it is the parent's fault, we all know that. Now how the hell does that help the kid who is going hungry?

Child services.

Which adds to the deficit, amirite?

FO.


And these same people will complain when schools offer free breakfast/lunch programs during the summer months.
 
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